Coal Bicycles' 84 is a 170mm Travel, Steel, Dual Link Frame - Bespoked Show 2021

Oct 18, 2021 at 5:04
by James Smurthwaite  

Most steel frames we cover on Pinkbike tend to work with a single pivot suspension design. The simpler kinematics tend to fit with the ethos of small-scale frame builders - simple, reliable and effective. However, Gavin White of Coal Bicycles wanted to do things a bit differently with his 84 frame.

Gavin has been a welder since he was 15 and has worked with a number of small brands around the UK offering OEM services. He says, "If you’ve ridden a steel hardtail from a UK brand, there’s a good chance that I made it." With 26 years of experience, he started thinking about how he would do things differently himself if he were in charge of the full production process and so Coal Bicycles was born. Gavin was inspired by the miners that he grew up surrounded by in England's East Midlands and wanted to build bikes that reflected them - tough and resilient.

He started his range with the Pony hardtail (that he assures me has more than one trick) and now is trying his hand at a full suspension bike with the 84. Rather than settle for a single pivot, Gavin wanted a virtual pivot design with a floating shock for the pedaling characteristics. For the linkage parts that Gavin couldn't build himself, he teamed up with Rideworks, another UK company that mainly specializes in machined components, and together the dream came to life.

The bike itself is a 160mm 29er but it can be configured as a mullet thanks to a flip-chip in the lower link. Swapping this over will give the bike an extra 10mm of travel and a more progressive kinematic so Gavin mainly recommends it for bike park riding with the full 29er set up more optimal for everything else.
Details: Coal Bicycles 84

Frame Material: Steel, Reynolds 853
Intended Use: Enduro
Travel: 160mm in 29er, 170mm in mullet, 170mm fork
Wheelsize: 29" front and rear or mullet
Head tube angle: 64.5°
Seat Tube Angle: 78° (73° actual)
Sizes: M, L, XL
Availability: First batch of 20 frames released soon
More info:

At the moment the bike is still in its testing phase but Gavin is hoping to release his first batch of 20 in the next few weeks. He'll then continue to drop small batches as long as there is demand.

A non-drive side view of the twin link suspension design. Gavin says the bike has a slightly rearward axle path with a progressive ramp up toward the end of the stroke.

A closer look a Rideworks' handiwork on the rocker link.

The simple but effective logo.

This flip chip allows riders to switch between the standard 29" set up and a mullet set up that also offers 10mm more travel with a more progressive kinematic.

Reynolds 853 is a common choice among high-end, steel frame builders as it offers the possibility of a better strength to weight ratio.


All of the graphics are painted including the head badge.

Some spec choices on this bike give a nod to Gavin's BMX racing background. These chrome White Industries cranks complete the look.

Gavin currently has seven frames built and is testing them with a wide range of riders. He'll be taking on board their feedback before releasing his first batch of 20 frames. So far the early reports from the field are positive, although this bracing may be one of a couple of parts that gets a tweak.

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  • 24 0
 Badass! Not too keen on the miter cut on the downtube though, a bent tube would be stronger.
  • 14 4
 Agreed, butt welds = disaster waiting to happen
  • 9 10
 it's true but it's both steel and full suspension, it'll be fine
  • 13 3
 @baca262: that's not how that works
  • 6 0
 I'd tend to agree, even tho this comes with a lot of eyeballing and no further details about that connection or even a FEA. It just looks like a bad idea, period. But we need to keep in mind this is a WIP prototype.

For those dismissing the stress around that area, bear in mind that even V1 Raw Madonnas were failing there (the XLs I think)
  • 11 2
 I might be wrong - but I thought Reynolds 853 hardened around the weld and increases its strength. One of the benefits of this tubing. I really like this bike. Good job
  • 10 1
 @jimbobley: it just transfers the issue to the area next to the weld
  • 4 4
 @Arierep: What do you mean about an issue? The strength will be the same as the rest of the steel tubes, it depends how thick they are.
  • 7 1
 @jimbobley: ok, let me correct, the potential issue. And, if the weld increases the substrate strength, by default you will have a difference in strength along the tube, which leads to stress concentration
  • 1 2
 @Arierep: i'd venture guess the whole frame was heat treated because of the gussets at the headtube so it should be fine

edit: just googled it, that's not how it's done. but still, the extra material at the weld should make it limited by the strenght of the tube, if the tube's thick enough it'll live
  • 18 1
 @baca262: even if we disregard the existence of the weld, that geometric shape with the sudden angle and edge is just objectively bad structurally. Any edge is a stress concentration point, that's undergrad engineering 101. Go check any motorsports rollcage handbook and they're quite specific about it.

Even if we had an hypothetical tube with No weld but that shape, it would still be sub optimal.

Again, I need to be careful with me comments here, as this is a prototype. I don't want to bash these guys needlessly over some make do part they already know it's not feasible for production
  • 2 0
 @Arierep: That type of miter joint can work better if a disc is welded in between the joint to help the torsional load, hard to say if Coal did that or not.
  • 2 0
 @baca262: you’re clearly out of your element Donny. Gussets don’t signal heat treating in any application. Sure “it’ll live” under most riders, but the heavy hitters will always figure out a way.
  • 5 0
 Try bending won't end well!

I agree though; it's not a pleasant solution.
  • 10 0
 A butt weld can work (I have done a good 50 downtubes this way for various reasons over the years), but I always gusset them when I have to do that. Otherwise, yeah, super sketch.

  • 2 12
flag baca262 (Oct 18, 2021 at 22:13) (Below Threshold)
 @johannensc: so, i make some understandable mistakes in assuming and i get shat all over as if my intention was so self aggrandize or troll something.

you guys were master yodas at birth ain't it? your retard radars ain't working correctly
  • 7 0
 @jimbobley: The problem is fatigue. No matter how hard/strong the weld is, there's a big geometrical defect on both toesof the weld bead, plus the residual stresses that will compensate for the higher strength. At best, that weld will have a maximum allowable load of 71 MPa at 2 million cycles, as there's no way of controlling the quality at the root.
  • 5 0
 @baca262: Assuming wasn’t the mistake. The mistake was ignoring that little voice in your head saying “you’re talking out of your ass here” and then closing with “it should be fine” while discussing the area of a bike most likely to cause serious injury in a failure.

Also: a few downvotes and a dismissive comment is not getting “shat all over”.
  • 1 3
 @trainboy17: Butt welds provide several advantages, including: High strength with complete fusion, Easy to machine, Distortion control, Easy to inspect - all done by someone with over two decades of experience. And, it's steel.
  • 3 0
 @Arierep: I've just used Ariereps' post as a starting point, with regards to the butt weld issue.

853 is a great material. I first used it in the mid / late 90s (well, whenever it first became available here in OZ), and, despite my concerns as to it being, perhaps, too hard / brittle from it's pronounced air maraging properties, I've never had a failure with regards to weld / HAZE zones. It IS a bastard of a material to ream out seat tubes and face and ream head tubes, , both before and (bloody hell) after welding.........

Perhaps the maker / designer wants the 'dog leg' butt joint to be a feature of their frame?

Each to his own - I dislike such features.

You've the travel of the reservoir during compression, PLUS, the lowering of the Whole shock to deal with. There are a few shocks with far longer / further from the body eye / trunion center line, that they may be trying to account for, too.

Though, on just basic eyeballing and line drawing over a printed picture, I think there is enough clearance for that joint to be further towards the BB area. A friend just said to me perhaps the butt joint is positioned to allow fitment of the 853 sticker - she's a cynical individual.

But, I'd never have such a joint, at such a point (but, I also have No bent tubes on my Suspension frames) . If it HAS to be there, for the previously mentioned Reservoir clearance issues, it would be wise to extend the lower link mount plates to go Across the Butt joint. The designer has the right idea with his welding those existing plates on the neutral axis - just bring them up to cross the butt joint. Lightening holes, with spaced fish mouth cut outs, would keep weight down, while looking 'nice'. That would be far better than say, a 'saddle gusset, with welds on the neutral (outside of the DT) axis only, which is another way to reinforce a butt joint.

Tiny saddle gussets on the headtube to TT and DT, on a 170mm travel bike, that some owners may be going Very hard on, seems a bit inadequate to me (Especially if they are too close to internal tube butting). And the relatively small diameter tubing is of concern - but, you are limited with 853 sizes.

But, I Do tend to build DH frames that are 'somewhat' Hefty....... I just weighed the swingarm that is going on a Pinion DH frame, and it's heavier than many whole Trail frames. Done that heavy, to later, put on my personal E Bike (when / if ever, I make it) . I'll be using lighter gauge and far less materials to make a lighter swingarm for the Pinion frame, when some steel gets to me. Ah, the joys of C19 delays. I'm not talking ounces here, I'm talking pounds / kilos.........
  • 2 0
 @Bearorso: I like your friend
  • 2 0

I Love Her!

She's definitely my better half, keeps my Grumpy Old Bastard side in check. Well, just a little........
  • 1 7
flag baca262 (Oct 20, 2021 at 1:09) (Below Threshold)
 @Blackhat: @Blackhat: i'm talking out of my ass. didn't i say you're behaving as if my intention is to self aggrandize or something like that? i think this is exactly it. that little voice, really? lmao what a retard.

you don't hear who is talking, you hear who you think is talking. i am giving you crap but it's also positive feedback.

some like to say map is not the territory. think about it, what you think is out there isn't necessarily what IS out there unless you have first hand experience.
  • 34 13
 He says, "If you’ve ridden a steel hardtail from a UK brand, there’s a good chance that I made it."

I think lots of companies may beg to differ!
  • 27 0
 Maybe not .If you bought a high end cromo hardtail off the west coast of canada back in the day ,there where only a handful of guys actually welding them. subbing out work to the guys who are masters of the trade is cheaper then trying to train and tool . paul brodie chris dekerf
  • 5 1
 @mxmtb: Lot of truth to that. On the US east coast, a majority was sent through BREW for the labor
  • 9 3
 he meant stanton you div
  • 8 0
 @Compositepro: i believe he's done contract work for other brands too.
  • 1 1
 You done a Ribble?
  • 4 1
 @blowmyfuse: Steve Garn from BREW and don't forget Frank The Welder (FTW) for east coast. He has worked for endless companies full-time and contract
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flag vinay FL (Oct 18, 2021 at 11:15) (Below Threshold)
 Oh boy, North America represent... This was about a steel hardtail from a UK brand.

First of all, a good few UK brands don't weld their steel hardtail frames in the UK. Cotic, On One, DMR, Pipedream etc have their frames welded in Taiwan or China. I've got a DMR Switchback frame, the sticker says "made in China". Does Gavin live over there to weld these frames?

Then you have brands who actually do make their steel hardtail frames in the UK. Stanton started recently, Curtis and BTR have been doing so since the beginning. I think Stanton welds in house and I'm pretty sure about Curtis and BTR.

Maybe he only meant to say when the welding is actually being outsourced? I was discussing having an Olsen hardtail frame being built (though I eventually went with BTR and a conventional drivetrain) but I didn't want a carbon frame. Olsen only produces in carbon though he offered to have the frame to be built by an external builder he knew. It wouldn't be cheaper (because he was external) but it was steel. Maybe he was indeed considering Gavin.
  • 5 0
 @mxmtb: and Mike Trulove Smile
  • 2 1
 @bman33: FTW was west coast until about 15 years ago.
  • 5 0
 @mxmtb: got a truelove painted by dekerf sitting in the other room!
  • 4 0
 @BikesBoatsNJeeps: true, but he did a great deal of work in the North East back in the mid 90's
  • 4 2
 @vinay: no idea why you got down voted so much? You got a hater cult following you around PB?
  • 3 3
 @blowmyfuse: North american susceptibility probably.
  • 1 0
 @bman33: Frank the Welder. Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Buddy of mine had a steel hardtail that was supposedly built by him. Probably 15 years ago. Had an absolutely jaw dropping powdercoat. Dark bronze with copper flake.
  • 12 2
 Some nice machining on the links. Would be good to throw a weight estimate out there though.
  • 11 24
flag z-man FL (Oct 18, 2021 at 10:46) (Below Threshold)
 Nice machine because you can see the rotor marks? That would've been nice in 2001.

Looks unfinished now days.
  • 4 2

To some of us this is how bikes are suppose to look!
  • 5 0
 The steel Starling Murmur is just under 8 pounds for the large size, I bet this isn't too much more. The half steel Cotic Rocetmax is about the same. Both of those are lighter than Transitions new aluminum frames, so I bet this is no more than them.
  • 3 0
 @z-man: 100% subjective. Some like that look, some don't. Neither effect performance
  • 7 3
 @bman33: yeah but as an CNC programmer this looks just not done. Same for most frames. I like the sleek look way more.
  • 1 0
 @Serpentras: what’s the time difference?
  • 12 1
 @z-man: wtf is a ‘rotor mark’?

@Serpentras: As a CNC programmer I’m sure you understand your job is to make a part to spec, including price and aesthetic?

Personally, I love the machined look, I also pay the monthly finance on a few machines so from that perspective would rather not watch my spindles running flat out surfacing for no benefit what so ever.

It seems like it’s a funny ‘in joke’ for machinists to hate on machining marks, not that it’s done hope any harm….
  • 1 0
 @Serpentras: as I mentioned, it's subjective and on no way affects performance with the marks or smooth. Many prefer that grooved looked
  • 3 3
 It's a 160mm steel bike. If you care about the weight, this is not for you.
  • 3 2
 @justanotherusername: Sure , the first thing we learned was not make unnecessary steps. If the customer had Rz numbers that bad we would let it just that way.

But because I was in the medical biz for most of the machining time I could not done it that way. Everything needed to be smooth as silk. Same for the food industry because they all want surfaces to be less sticky.

My CNC parts on my bike are almost free of marks. You need to look really close on the stem and only notice it when you are in the biz. The brakes, well you will notice but not that bad.
  • 8 0
 @Serpentras: You dont mention one of the main differences between manufacturing a bike part and parts for the medical industry - cost, go find out how much your spindle time is per hr.

As I say, when you are paying the bill for the machine and costing the part, you wont want to spend a long time with your spindle maxed out running surfacing for absolutely no reason, especially when many people like the 'machined look' - its a sign the part has been CNC machined and not a cheap casting etc.

I think you are also confusing 'marks' with deliberate too-path patterning when surfacing - I would class a mark as the finish left on the floor by a flat end-mill or face-mill etc - I wouldnt class this as a mark, its a deliberate aesthetic choice.

It certainly hasnt done companies like Hope, Absolute Black and many others any harm anyway and it does bug me when machinists continually pop up saying 'In my job that Hope brake is classed as unfinished'.
  • 4 0
 @justanotherusername: Exactly. “Finished” means consistent and in line with the intended aesthetic. Not an arbitrary standard of smoothness that machinist snobs pride themselves in achieving.

It would be different it if we were looking at random swirls from a fly cut, but in this case they specifically selected a small ball mill and patterned it to create a consistent and interesting pattern that matches the shape of the part. Some people won’t like the look and that’s fine, just like some prefer green to red. But saying it looks unfinished is disingenuous.
  • 2 0
 @Blackhat: as a professional pinkbike machinist whos seen a real life lathe before, I think its beautiful.
  • 2 0
 @Blackhat: the words you are looking for is stepover and cusp
  • 3 0
 @justanotherusername: ouh dude, like I said those are the basics. Why do you want to talk to me again about the cost, I know to calculate that. We have the formula for that specific and it's the basic training you will receive before you even allowed to do anything.

I am not confused, by those marks. Thats just a ball instead of a end mill cutter. Very easy to replicate...

You are confused by what I wrote. Look Trickstuff up and then We Are One to get it. The stem almost got no marks. The Direttissima I have got some marks you can spot right away who are NOT intentionally made but can happen. I am way more onto that sleeker stuff like I said. Or just look at intended. Ofc you have the same benefits for this as stuff won't stick easy as those higer Rz surfaces.

This looks like it could be made by an older 3 axis CNC and is almost sleek anyway. Nothing special, there are other MTB projects where you instantly see that it's not possible this way.
A larger diameter then the ball for the end cutter to make the final cut to smooth it out takes way less time then the tiny ball going for a endless journey to create such a pattern. Even if this is an HSC. Both will fly anyway.
This is AL , we cut this right away to the finish. You dont even need a another tool to get it smooth.
This makes me a Snob? I dunno , so be it.
This kind of surface always will remind me of the old school end cutters with many teeth for the rough milling instead of the new ones with only one sharp edge per teeth. That is probably why in my mind it looks unfinished.
  • 2 0
 @Serpentras: Good for you dude, some of us like the look, me included - and I’ll keep programming my machines so the parts look that way too when I feel like it.

And yes saying something ‘looks not done’ makes you a cnc snob, but that’s OK, we don’t all like the same thing.
  • 1 0
 @Serpentras: I had to go back and look at the part. lol ... you're right, it looks like it has been finished with a ball mill. I can't recall (in 20+ yrs) ever seeing that, and it shrieks amateur.

I think finishing marks with a small endmill isn't ideal either. I prefer a larger finishing tool appearance, and notice most shops will do it.
  • 4 0
 @njcbps: So you haven’t ever seen a Hope or Absolute Black part before then, eh? - amongst many, many others.

It was done to give an aesthetic appearance - a deliberate choice - Rideworks is a machine shop, I’m sure they know how to pick between types of tooling and if you haven’t seen anyone in 20+ years 3D surface a part and you are genuinely in the CNC industry.

Man you ‘CNC gurus’ are an odd bunch.
  • 2 0
 @justanotherusername: you havent seen the discussions on new Macs from the raging fanatics makes cnc guys look positively gentlemanly
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 @justanotherusername: I'm not a CNC guru, but have been around machining for awhile. I work in an industry that produces functional parts ... esthetics are always important, but ball mill finishing wouldn't be it.

I haven't seen Hope or Absolute Black parts before. I had a look at the latter, and don't like them. But that's only an opinion.
  • 2 0
 @justanotherusername: yeh, most will dig that look. I get that. Gabaruk, Pole and even Propain but they used it to make a one piece asynchronous lower link you can't even see. I get that and it's sure a aspect of the design so it is ofc finished.

It's funny because before I was getting into the job I had already parts and items who are made with only a sleek finish. I had even an MP3 player back then who was CNC made and anodised. Super nice stuff even today.
  • 8 1
 is the name a nod to the '84 coal strikes? if so, I'm sure that will annoy someone for some reason
  • 1 0
 I'm pretty sure it is and although I can't imagine anyone knickers in a twist over this I've also seen the comment sections on reviews of Brassed Off the movie.
  • 2 0
 @Bob-Agg: someone out there will be uttering “hold my beer” right now
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flag BenPea (Oct 18, 2021 at 13:27) (Below Threshold)
 Maggie Thatcher was the Greta Thünberg of her day.
  • 3 0
 @BenPea: Honk.
  • 9 0
 @BenPea: I mean, if someone has differing views, the competing model of bike designs itself: the "Maggie", a fully rigid bike, unforgiving ride, made of iron.
  • 6 0
 @muumuu: And only goes in straight lines, no turning.
  • 5 0
 @commental: not available in Argentina either
  • 7 1
 @muumuu: and don’t forget the Boris bike, Fat and turd like.
  • 8 1
 @kipvr: Been ridden in every corner of London and whored out to large banks for sponsorship? I think the Boris bikes do live up to their progenitor
  • 1 1
 What's the next model name in the lineup - Battle of Orgreave? Picket Breaker?
  • 8 0
 Hoping Santa can bring me coal this year!
  • 7 1
 Let me know if you need someone to test it out in the Pacific North West XD
  • 9 2
 +100 for not sporting eeWings
  • 5 1
 Oh hell, I LOVE it!!! It is identical to the bikes I was making in the early-mid 2000s. I am stoked about these guys revising my design.
  • 2 0
 Was just about to say, shout out to the OG...
  • 7 3
 Steampunk version of a Reign 29er. Same suspension layout, about the same travel and geometry, even similar reinforcement of the rear triangle. meh
  • 4 0
 If I was making a small scale full suspension bike, I'd probably model the kinematics on a good production bike. Way easier than the extensive testing to get them right. Not saying that's what this guy did, but it's a good strategy imo. And it's not like Giant would lose sales because of this tiny manufacturer. I doubt there's much overlap between people interested in this bike and people interested in a giant. He'd take sales from other boutique steel frame builders, like starling, cotic etc.
  • 3 0
 Naha, the bottom shock mount is on the bottom rocker. Giant/old Trek spawn. Bet it rides amazingly.
  • 1 0
 Reign has less travel and the suspension is different. They could have added links and put the shock upside down and sideways to make it look prettier and unique but I'm sure most looking for a bombproof steel full squish bike don't care.
  • 3 0
 It's not the same layout as a Maestro system though. The shock is floating, with the extension of the lower link pulling it downwards, like a rocker arm.
  • 3 0
 Why bother taking the time to leave a comment like this? Guy has worked his nuts off to produce this bike, stuck his cock on the block to pursue his dream of starting a bike company and you come along with a flippant comment like that. Nice one....
  • 2 0
 As a proud owner of the multi-trick Pony I can say it's a bike made with great craftsmanship. Handling is the dream and the bike is insanely capable downhill. Unfortunately my stable is fit for one bike only, else I would definitely go for the 84. Mint looking bike and I'm sure it'll be a beast on the trails.
  • 5 0
 shes a beaut! steel is real
  • 2 0
 Love it! Was curious about the strange top-tube seam showing in pic 39, but I think it's the trailing edge of a head tube lug, just the photo makes the rest of the upper lug disappear under the clearcoat.
  • 1 0
 Daammmmmnnn, that is NICE looking!! I wonder if the hype around steel on a FS is legit or not? Would getting more mass production steel frames drop prices of frames or make it easier to product locally in the states/UK to get around supply chain mess? Perhaps a successful steel bike like this could change things. Todays Alum frames are heavy as hell anyways.

The two minor things I wonder about:
1- The seat tube support beam there, I don't like. Maybe its needed but I like how those supports are gone on other bikes.
2- Is it possible to get a tapered headtube? Maybe I'm just trained to like the tapered headtube look.
  • 2 0
 This bike does have a tapered head tube. It looks straight and it is but the headset you put in it allows it to accept a tapered fork. It looks to me like it is a EC49 28.6 top and a EC49 40 bottom.
  • 2 0
 I just realized you were talking about the aesthetic of the tapered head tube. Now that I’m not sure about.
  • 2 0
 Not sure what "hype", the mainstream just simply won't buy em.
1) yes, heaps of loads there if you want that low TT.

2) Yes, but it's a pain to mitre so why bother as a 44mm headtube does the same job and is easier (read slightly cheaper) to use.
  • 5 4
 That is one of the steeper seat angles I've seen

Rare to see seat angle marketing fiction go the other way. Then again maybe it really is 73° and everyone else has fudged their numbers by 5° or so...

  • 5 2
 they say eff. SA 78°, actual SA 73° on their website,
  • 6 1
 It's been edited already! To...78.

Marketing department dropped their donut and sprinted down the hall slid across a desk and hammered "7" "8" with everything they had.

J/k I'm sure it's just Mr White, and big kudos for a beautiful bike...and seat tube on trend.
  • 2 0
 @tofhami: True says so in the article now too, but it only had the 73° when it first posted.
  • 3 0
 Absolutely mint! I'm so local to this brand, hope to throw a leg over one at some point
  • 4 0
 somebody IV this bike into my bloodstream
  • 4 0
 stunning, nice work
  • 1 1
 I hate to be that guy but small diameter tubing of any material is going to flex in all the wrong directions. Poor application of material. This is literally 1990's tech and those bikes sucked too.
  • 1 2
 I’m surprised that white industries are still around. They had some truly awful cranks oem manufactured by sugino that cost me many thousands in dental work when they failed whilst I was JRA home from school.
  • 7 0
 Have you been injured at work?, Been in an accident that wasn't your fault, call the Butterfield accident claim and dietary service now.
  • 1 0
 @browner: i though tyou were going to say call the A team dur de de dur da da da
  • 2 0
 @browner: quiche lorraine, mystery meat, bon bon bon bon... It's up to you.
  • 3 0
 @TheBrickOriginal: sandwich casserole, potato grids, pork cylinders... the list goes on
  • 1 0
 Does the 84 indicate weight in lbs?!
  • 2 0
 I looks super cool
  • 1 0
 what a beaty
  • 1 0
 First glance that linkage reminds me of my old OneGhost Musashi
  • 1 0
 looks like my giant, except more rad
  • 1 0
 show bike with misaligned tires...
  • 1 0
 Meastro link with a floating shock, interesting I wonder how it rides.
  • 1 0
 That is a beautiful bike Drool
  • 1 1
 Another company that didn't respond to my email when i was ready to toss thousands at them...looks nice though.
  • 1 0
 Wicked bike , well done and definitely amazing.
  • 1 0
 Lovely bikes....lotta love gone into a rider for riders
  • 1 0
 This reminds me of my Paradigm I built in 2010/2011
  • 1 0
 This is sick
  • 1 0
 NOICE!!! I Like it!
  • 1 0
  • 3 1
 probably cheaper than the new top of the range macbook
  • 3 1
 @Compositepro: but man, that new top range macbook will run circles around my razer studio 17, and that cost $3600
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: yeah i was sat here waiting to take mine then saw the price lol
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