If you take a quick glance at the new YT Tues, you might not be able to differentiate it from the previous generation. Take a closer look though and you’ll notice plenty of adjustments have been worked into the fourth generation downhill bike. YT refined the geometry, kinematics, and workmanship without redefining the character of the Tues.
The YT Mob has a world-class list of downhill racers, but the product team didn’t go down the rabbit hole of building a complex suspension system just for World Cup racing. They’ve stuck with their proven four-bar platform and contemporary angles which they believe works well for a broad spectrum of gravity-fueled riding; that is anything from bike park laps to freeriding, and of course downhill racing too.
YT Tues MK4 Details• Carbon frame
• Travel: 200mm / 203mm fork
• Mixed or dual 29" wheels
• Head Angle: 63.2 - 63.5 degrees
• Reach: 430, 450, 470, 490, 510mm
• Chainstay lengths (short position): 438 (S,M), 440 (L), 450mm (XL, XXL)
• Price: $3,999 - $5,999 USD
• Frame warranty: 3 years
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yt-industries.com To accomplish that, the Tues MK4 offers a massive range of frame sizes, each with the ability to run either rear wheel size; 27.5” or 29”. There is 5mm of chainstay length adjustment to choose from on each size, as well as a head angle/BB height flip-chip, so finding your ideal fit and balance shouldn’t be a stretch.
YT’s direct to consumer model introduces the Tues MK4 with two carbon-framed models; the Core 2 at $3,999 USD and the $5,999 USD Core 4.
Frame DetailsCondensing the number of bikes in the Tues lineup was another goal for YT. Before, the Tues MK3 had two bikes with equal wheel sizes; 27.5” or 29”. Now, all frame sizes use a 29” front wheel and have the option to run either a big or small rear wheel. There are no limitations regarding which frame sizes can use a 29” wheel either. For example, the larger rear wheel can be used on the small size frame even in the short chainstay setting.
Making those adjustments isn’t a hassle either. They can be switched in a matter of minutes with basic tools and don’t require any additional parts. By flipping the chip in the link and swapping the two-piece rocker link to the opposite side, the geometry and shock rate remain the same, regardless of the wheel size. The chainstay length flip-chip also works with the UDH component in either position. Furthermore, all of the frame hardware threads into replaceable nuts.
YT is another brand switching up their downhill bike's rear hub specifications to 148mm Boost. Not only does this improve heel clearance around the dropout, but it opens the possibility of borrowing a wheel from an enduro bike in a pinch.
Noise cancellation and cable management was focused on improving and simplifying. Even more rubber coverage was added to the underside of the seatstay and integrated fork bumpers ensure the fork stanchions never impact the frame.
Suspension DesignDon’t fix what isn’t broken was the theme of the Tues MK4. Considering YT wanted to retain the Tues’ versatile nature, it’s hard to knock a four-bar, Horst-Link suspension design. The lower shock mount is placed on the seatstay and is controlled by the two “wings” that make up the rate control link. Towards the dropout, a pivot lies on the chainstay to help isolate the braking forces from the suspension action.
The progression has been toned down on the Tues MK4 to give the rider more control through low-speed body inputs. YT also worked to keep the travel and kinematics virtually identical across all of the possible geometry and wheel adjustments.
GeometryShaping the Tues MK4 into a flat-out race bike wasn’t YT’s desire. They wanted the bike to ride well everywhere whether that’s a high-speed race course or freeride jump park. Five frame sizes is a wide range for a bike company to cover, even in the trail or enduro categories, let alone a downhill bike. Riders who might have had issues finding an appropriately sized downhill bike might be in luck with the Tues.
The reach on the smallest size starts at 430mm in the “regular” BB height and moves up 20mm per frame, to 510mm for the XXL. If you add in the option of using an aftermarket +/- 10mm reach adjust headset, that covers the sizing gaps nicely. On the rear end of the bike, a chainstay flip-chip allows for 5mm adjustments. The small and medium frames can be tweaked from 438-443mm, the large from 440-445, and the XL and XXL measure 450-455.
More adjustments are found on the lower shock mount to alter the head tube and BB height between 63.5 degrees and -25mm, to 63.2 and -30mm, which doesn’t make the Tues particularly slack. As mentioned, changing rear wheel sizes has no effect on geometry.
Models and PricingYT ships the size small and medium frames with MX wheels, whereas the large, XL, and XXL frames come stock with dual 29” wheels. The metallic green paint of the Core 2 starts at $3,999 USD while the white and orange Core 4 goes for $5,999 USD.
Currently, there are only carbon versions of the Tues MK4 frame but we wouldn’t be surprised to see aluminum models appear shortly.
The Core 2 receives a full SRAM package using a Boxxer Base with rebound and low-speed compression adjustments, plus a Super Deluxe Coil shock that includes a hydraulic bottom-out control. The rest of the components are all aluminum, including wheels from Crankbrothers, a bar and stem from Race Face, and Sram Descendant cranks. A 7-speed GX DH drivetrain and Maxxis Assegai Maxx Grip tires are staples to finish off the build kit.
$2,000 more will score you the Core 4 model with Fox Factory suspension, TRP DH-R Evo brakes, a Sram X01 DH drivetrain, and the same rims and tires as the Core 2, except with Industry Nine 1/1 hubs. Finishing off the build are Renthal and SDG components in the cockpit zone.
Tues Core 4 - $5,999 USD / €5,999 EUR / £5,999GBP / $8,499 CAD
Tues Core 2 - $3,999 USD / €3,999 EUR / £3,999GBP / $5,599 CAD
Ride ImpressionsMixed-wheeled downhill bikes (29” front, 27.5” rear) have become more common on the race circuits today. Given the opportunity to swap back-and-forth between the two and rear wheel sizes back to back on the same test track led to a surprising preference - the 29” rear wheel provided greater balance by adding substance to the back half of the bike.
There’s an admirable sense of being tucked in the bike - like you’re hovering close to the ground. Combine that with a relatively low weight and conservative head tube angle, the Tues doesn’t struggle to whip around tight corners or pop over obstacles when needed.
All of that brings a stable yet agile blend of character to the Tues, which is exactly what YT aimed for. It doesn’t have a limousine-length wheelbase which can drag down other downhill bikes on groomed jumpy, flow trails.
Mechnically, the Tues looks to be sound as well. Even through unusually wet conditions, the California sand didn’t pose any creaks from the flip-chips. In other areas, the chain and cables remained reasonably calm too.
The Tues isn’t the slackest or longest downhill bike, which isn’t necessarily a terrible thing. In its stock form, the Tues might not be the one downhill bike to rule them all in terms of flat out racing, but it could be the one downhill bike to do it all.
It will be interesting to see what changes the YT Mob racers make to adapt the bike to World Cup tracks. I wouldn’t be surprised to see angled headsets called to action and the longer chainstays from the XL frame fitted to those on the size L Tues. Conversely, to make the bike smaller, I bet you’ll find some freeriders reverting to a 27.5” front wheel for big flippy, spinny tricks.
give me a bike as narrow as it can be, thx
DH 157 has been around since before 148. Superboost 157 has not. They are different, and that difference is exactly why everyone is so upset about 157 superboost.
@JJ-Crank: I was thinking 148 vs DH150, the original (and best) dh standard
I agree superboost is stupid. DH150 is the correct choice for dh bikes. Wheels last sooo much longer with equal bracing angles. I also agree that improved heel clearance is worth having. My ideal setup would probably be a 135 rear end with a singlespeed hub set up with as many gears as you can fit on a typical ss freehub body (normally 4-5). However selling 1mm extra clearance either side, in return for nearly vertical driveside bracing angles is a nonsense. If you want a wheel that will take an entire season of bikepark abuse, dh150 (or dh157) (or 135x12 SS) is your best bet
148 was created by Trek to create a solution for a problem that never existed.
The goal of any consumer driven market is to force your customers to buy into a product line that solves everything on rev A and by rev H, condition the customer into believing hype.
Tire inserts are also in the topic contention of “Jackie Chan meme Why.”
But for other readers that lack knowledge but have brain capacity, the difference in bracing angle or "simple trigonometry" is around 0.7 degrees, when comparing EX511 29" rims laced to a 148mm and 157mm I9 Hydra rear hub (7.5/4.9 vs. 8.1/5.7deg). Both wheels have similar tension distribution (65:100 vs 70:100%). Rim ERDs are relatively large that adding 9mm of flange spacing (to already optimized hubs) barely makes any difference when it comes to wheel strength.
Now, if "strength" is not the true reason for different hub widths, why would companies continue to use 157mm rear hubs? Hint, it is the same reason why 20x110mm exists.
You are literally the prime customer. Believes in any marketing BS.
Like perfect rider who contradicts that’s logic. Remy Morton. He’s running no chain, 24in rear and 26 front. And he’s doing just fine at Hardline. Better than some with super boost 29er or all 27.5. Guaranteed Remy rides better and harder than you or I combined.
Using the (worst case scenario) setup you specified, i9 hubs on a 29er rim, you are still looking at a nearly 10% increase in spoke tension on the non driveside when moving from 148 to 150/7. This is not insignificant at all. In nearly any other hub/rim combo you care to calculate for, this is going to be an even larger improvement. This results in much more durable wheels.
They didnt have a problem with wheels back in the 135 non-offset rear end days? Errr. Yeah they did. And they still do. Anyone who rides hard will be destroying multiple rear wheels per season. If you think thats good enough when wheels cost hundreds (or even thousands) of quid, then you are the one thats getting conned by the industry...
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Its all the bike 99% of us ever need to race / ride DH on that's for sure, will see what the prototype they were hiding looks like this weekend I suppose.
but seemingly, you are an consoomer who got conditioned into believing "more reach = more better"
It’s a non argument you are making, just like all clothes don’t fit the same all bikes don’t, who’d of thought it?
why use that diaper when the bike is mostly the same visually?! to get some unwarranted hype i guess?!
"watched Jaws again, great movie"
"which one"
"Jaws..."
"Yeah but which one? There's a few"
"The one where the shark eats everyone"
"you're going to have to be a bit more specific..."
"fine, it was the third one they released"
"YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO NUMBER THEM!.."
"oh, I didn't know"
"but if you know what year it was released, those numbers are OK to use... Because..."
"because numbering is stupid, no one does that anyway.. *checks numbers of up votes on pinkbike for their comment *... Yeah no one...".
Jaws is a great movie though.