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FOX Factory Series Float DPS Shock - Review

Apr 1, 2015
by Mike Levy  
FOX Float DPS

FOX has stuffed a lot of changes into a rather small package with their new Float DPS shock. That list includes not only a revamped air spring that's said to provide more supple action, but also an entirely new piston design that should add up to better performance when you need it most. We first showed you a sneak peak of a prototype version of the DPS shock back in February, and it turns out that our guess of it using a longer negative spring rings true, but there are one or two other surprises that were less expected, including the departure of CTD.
Factory Series Float DPS Shock Details

• Intended use: trail / all-mountain
• Open, Medium, Firm compression modes
• Three-position compression in Open mode
• New EVOL air spring
• New Dual Piston System
• Remote compatible



Dual Piston System

FOX's new DPS damper is all about letting you have your cake and eat it too. The design looks exactly as the name likely has you picturing it, with a larger piston overtop of its smaller brother. The two-piston layout allows FOX to separate the modes that riders use most often (Open and Medium) by putting them on the main piston, while the Firm setting (and its requirement to greatly block oil flow in order to function) is on the second piston. FOX says that this separation between Open/Medium and Firm modes allows the former two to perform even better, while the Firm mode can be set even stiffer without compromising how the shock behaves when it's left open.

Just like on the new 34, FOX has abandoned the CTD designation, which makes sense given the new damper layout, but they've also taken the old CTD's supplementary three-position compression setting that used to let riders tweak the Trail mode to their liking and reconfigured it to do the same thing but only in the Open mode.
FOX 34 Float review test
FOX says that moving the Firm mode to a separate piston allows the shock to perform better when it's set to both Open and Medium modes.


EVOL Air Spring

While the new damper updates are hidden inside the shock, the odd looking shape of the shock body is a dead giveaway that FOX has made some changes to the Float's air spring. That black section on the shock body that looks like an add-on is exactly that, a slip-on sleeve that's held in place with a large C-clip to create an extremely long negative air spring. The longer the stroke of the negative spring, the smoother the handoff becomes as the pressure falls off to zero on the negative side and the suspension is completely supported by the main positive side of the air can. This should make for an air-sprung shock that feels quite a bit more active and smoother through its stroke, but especially at the top of the travel. FOX says that the EVOL spring is also more linear and more supportive in the middle of the stroke, which are all things that a lot of trail bikes could benefit from, and the ability to adjust the shock's progression is still possible by adding or subtracting volume spacers.
FOX Float DPS
The longer negative spring is underneath the black sleeve, and you can just spot the bleed hole that links the two at the base of the main air can.






Riding the Float DPS Shock

Shocks are a bit of a funny thing to try and review. Forks often have very clear dividing lines in how each different model performs, but because many frames have had their rear suspension designed to perform in a very particular way (think different pivot placements leading to more or less anti-squat, ect), not to mention that they were penned with very specific shock tunes in mind, evaluating how a shock performs on the trail can really only be done on a strict comparison basis. So, that's exactly what I set out to do in order to see if FOX's new Float DPS is a step forward. I had FOX send me two shocks - the new 2016 DPS unit and a Float CTD Trail Adjust from 2015 - both tuned to work with a 120mm travel Ibis Ripley that I'd be bolting them to. Pinkbike is still waiting for our Roehrig dyno to arrive (not really), but this shock vs. shock comparison is the second best option.

FOX Float DPS
  The standard Float CTD Trail Adjust from 2015 shown at the top, and the new Float DPS shock below it, both of which were sent with the stock tunes to work on an Ibis Ripley. Ride, swap, repeat.


Air Spring and Sensitivity - The DPS shock's EVOL air can makes it obvious to see which shock is which, and makes for a striking performance difference on the trail as well. First, the added volume of the DPS shock requires much higher air pressures to attain the same sag as the 2015 Float CDT - 220 PSI compared to 170 PSI to end up with the Ripley's recommended 11mm of sag - but that extra 50 PSI doesn't make for a harsher ride. That's because the DPS shock's higher-volume, longer-stroke version of the in-line negative spring goes a long way to balancing the positive spring's static pressure, which sees the initial spring rate start relatively low. This makes for a very coil-like feeling at the top of the stroke, and the DPS shock is noticeably smoother at the top of its travel. It's not life-changing, but I'd equate the added forgiveness to what it feels like if you're running high-volume tires and dropped 4 or 5 PSI out of them - small bumps just feel a touch more muted, and there's the sensation of the bike wanting to stay on the ground a little better. The same could be said for the rest of the stroke as well.

The Ripley features a somewhat linear rear suspension design, not to mention a low-ish bottom bracket height, so it's worthwhile tinkering around with volume spacers if you think you need them. Doing the job is no different between the DPS and the 2015 Float CTD shocks: release the air pressure, unscrew the air can, and then add or remove the spacer as you see fit. I started with one of the smaller spacers, then tried the larger just to see, but I had trouble reaching full travel on all but a single extremely hard impact. I ended up going back to the smaller of the two volume spacers.

It also needs to be said that the DPS shock simply feels more active than its CTD equipped predecessor from last year, which might not be something that all riders are looking for. In my mind, suspension is for keeping your tires glued to the deck in the name of traction, and allowing you to ride faster and with more control, both things that the new EVOL air spring design seems to improve on. Riders who don't want their suspension to feel awesome, or have bikes that might not gel with the EVOL's spring curve, can opt for a standard version of the DPS shock.


Damping - The new Dual Piston System and how it separates the Firm compression mode from Open and Medium is clever, but I suspect that most riders are going to be more impressed by the new air spring rather than the hidden-from-view shim science. That said, the shock felt more active, controlled and impressive than last year's Boost Valve CTD model, which isn't solely down to the EVOL air can. There's also the matter of FOX designing the black three-position compression selector to control the amount of low-speed compression in Open mode rather than in last year's Trail mode on the CTD shock. This change makes a lot of sense for bikes that pedal well because a rider is often just leaving the shock in Open mode all day long, and the three-position LSC option allows for tuning of this without having to flip to the middle setting and sacrificing traction and comfort.

The shock's Medium setting is far from harsh, though, and much like how the new Factory Series Float 34's Medium mode feels more forgiving than CTD's Trail setting ever did, the same can be said of the DPS shock. Again, the air spring obviously plays a role here as well, but the DPS's Medium mode felt more forgiving without handing over any control. Good stuff. The Firm mode is quite firm, as it should be, and most riders are only ever going to reaching for that position when faced with smooth, boring road climbs. Who likes to go up those, anyway?
FOX Float DPS
The three-position black selector now controls how much low-speed compression is applied in the Open mode, whereas the old CTD shock saw the same thing applied to the Trail mode.




Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesI've always said that the less travel you have, the better that travel must be. The challenge, though, is getting a diminutive air-sprung shock to perform better and better every year, especially when you have gram counters out there not willing to take a big hit on the scales in the name of performance. FOX has done that with their new Float DPS, and the new EVOL air spring should get most of the credit here. It added a noticeable amount of suppleness to the 120mm travel bike that I mounted it on, and while I can't exactly measure the gains in traction, I'm confident that it's there. - Mike Levy




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About the Reviewer
Stats: Age: 34 • Height: 5'10” • Inseam: 33" • Weight: 165lb • Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Mike Levy spent most of the 90s and early 2000s racing downhill bikes and building ill-considered jumps in the woods of British Columbia before realizing that bikes could also be pedalled for hours on end to get to some pretty cool places. These days he spends most of his time doing exactly that, preferring to ride test bikes way out in the local hills rather than any bike park. Over ten years as a professional mechanic before making the move to Pinkbike means that his enthusiasm for two wheels extends beyond simply riding on them, and his appreciation for all things technical is an attribute that meshes nicely with his role of Technical Editor at Pinkbike.


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133 Comments
  • 2113
 I would buy this sweet shock but I don't got enough kashima wallet
  • 191
 ok that's the best pun on the page...by far.
  • 657
flag camcoz69 (Apr 1, 2015 at 12:55) (Below Threshold)
 I thought it was pronounced: 'Kah-shee-mah' since it's a Japanese word.
  • 1037
 Nothing in this review really shocks me.
  • 148
 What a shocker
  • 584
 I really hope my super obvious shock pun doesn't damper the mood.
  • 1167
 Your jokes don't float my boat, by the way.
  • 704
 I just hope they don't start piston people off!
  • 144
 Or Corset they would squeeze this shock out now.
  • 525
flag B650wagon (Mar 31, 2015 at 22:52) (Below Threshold)
 Evol, because they stole it and they know it. Oh well, better than not improving their shox at all I guess.
  • 343
 Looks like Fox is on the rebound!
  • 86
 Pinkbike is pretty pumped on the performance
  • 114
 Fox has my a very good first compression
  • 312
flag chyu (Apr 1, 2015 at 0:18) (Below Threshold)
 I had enough of this negativity thought in my shock.
  • 42
 Of Corset the Evol Depends On Air
  • 229
flag Vanguard (Apr 1, 2015 at 0:59) (Below Threshold)
 It's NEW. Of course it must be better. Also, Enduro!
  • 356
 Enduro jokes dry my seals...
  • 193
 I just LOVE the EVOL concept....
  • 226
 You got the whole concept backwards...
  • 115
 Fox is on Rapid Recovery™ seems like
  • 411
flag Owenjs FL (Apr 1, 2015 at 2:57) (Below Threshold)
 All these shocking puns have really put a damper on my day...
  • 112
 I thought they had something really new up their sleeve...
  • 37
flag macross87 (Apr 1, 2015 at 5:09) (Below Threshold)
 These comments dampen my spirits...
  • 143
 Stop with dampening, from now on PB puns need to get on a more progressive tune
  • 32
 I wonder what else is up Fox's sleeve for 2016
  • 21
 Sounds like fox has a pretty nice rebound in their sleeves. I'm glad they can pull it off.
  • 35
 i think that there are some new tricks up fox's (air) sleeve... you guys are so punny!
  • 71
 ..but canister up rider passion?
  • 10
 all this comments are just the needed dis-traction to us.
  • 21
 If the news are true that DirtMag goes full online we really need to get our sht together and turn up our dials so that Pinkbike tops out on the bike internet pun territory.
  • 10
 Maybe Dirt Mag will bring more diversity. Pinkbike and Vitalmtb are practically a carbon copy.
  • 40
 While Pinkbike sometimes fails me by not staying high in travel and being too plush in reviews (save ones from Mike Levy) I sometimes find Vital to be bottoming out on blunt cockyness territory. Nothing beats BikeMag in keeping companies well lubricated - every bike is fantastic and ground braking!
  • 411
 can you guys at pinkbike review the corset air sleeve for fox shocks?

vorsprungsuspension.com/products/vorsprung-corset-air-sleeve
  • 754
 Sure. once their payment is cleared.
  • 130
 That's what I've been thinking. But notch it up a bit and review a push-tuned shock (or any custom tuned one for that matter) equipped with a vorsprung-corset and compare it to a dps-shock. Now that'd be something!
  • 73
 Daniel - I think you should send that message to vorsprung instead... Pinkbike tests the stuff it is being sent. Anyways, their corset is on my wishlist. Since everyone is switching to large volume negative chambers there may be some water in it.
  • 60
 I can confirm that the Corset can makes a big difference to the feel of the bike. I installed one on my Canyon Spectral and was shocked (pardon the pun) at the difference in smoothness to small bump vibration. Also, as you have to run much higher pressure, the mid stroke is much firmer and has more pop. Ramp up at the end stroke is enough that I haven't bottomed out yet despite a few unintentional hucks to flat.

The only downside is that the more active suspension sucks the life out of your legs on the climbs (maybe that's mental).

I have been very happy with my Corset can and would recommend to anyone who can't afford the price of a new shock.
  • 40
 Just mounted my corset on my pushed ctd shock. Did not get a ride in yet but the bike eases into its sag much more gradually and easily as opposed to suddenly breaking through stiction, and then mooves very smooth and supple through its travel. Had to go from 1245 psi to 155.

For me it was night and day difference, coil-like is a good way to describe it.

Push takes care of the good dampening so i am looking forward to first dirt.

One problem remains though that has not been addressed in the new shock seemingly and cannot be fixed in an existing one: low oil volume which leads to degrading dampening performance very quickly - thus short service intervals. I guess the best option would still be to invest in a bos shock despite everything that cc, rs, fox do.
  • 121
 So you've run your shock at 1245 psi and lived to tell the tale? Smile Must have been a hell of a change in shock's behaviour if you took it 1090 psi down Wink
  • 22
 fox on climb mode....... catching up with the rest...
  • 110
 Yes man 1245 psi was badass. But I needed it for the really harsh chunder and drops at double world cup speed that are typical for my home trails. Takes a while to reach that pressure with a pump though and i went through a lot of seals and shocks actually. Thanks god that is all solved now thanks to the corset.
  • 31
 Just installed a Corset sleeve in my Enduro no real seat time on it yet. It does take more air to get the same sag but did notice that the midstroke seems to be improved will need more seat time and a real ride on it before I can say anymore about it though.
  • 20
 I have used my corset equipped rp23 CTD twice now and it seems pretty sweet. It eases into the sag a great deal easier than before, and I agree that mid level support is also improved. Their customer service is excellent as well, couldn't recommend more.
  • 10
 would be very interested in hearing how any of you feel the corset effects pedaling efficiency - moreso sprinting on the flats and stuff as opposed to climbing.
  • 10
 I wonder how would a negative coil spring compare to a corset.
  • 20
 Just got back from a weeks riding in Ibiza on my Dune with a new Corset installed. Normally ride with a Float X which is pretty good but the Corset is something else. Bump sensitivity is up loads and it just behaves better all the way through the travel. Got a CCDB for uplift days, but not really sure I'm getting enough benefit over the Corset/Float X to warrant keeping it...
  • 20
 Hey WAKI, take your saddle off your seat post and hit a big drop.
  • 422
 I'm looking forward to never being able to try this out
  • 181
 whatever. coil the enduro bikes!
  • 192
 Is this a Fox News channel now ? :-)
  • 127
 Only until SRAM's cheque clears Mike's account next week.
  • 160
 Will this make me top DPS of my raid?
  • 11
 Was that a Destiny joke? awesome.
  • 121
 WHERE IS THE NEW AIR DH SHOCK!!!
  • 320
 Expect some news from Sea Otter in a few weeks time...
  • 20
 This is what I was wondering an rc4 air shock would be nice.
  • 80
 I think this is the best April Fools so far.
  • 30
 Hate hate hate. Fox must have paid hate hate. My life is miserable hate hate hate. I own something older and non Fox hate hate. Darn these companies for trying to make riding better and easier hate hate. Fuck you hater troll robot assholes.
  • 20
 Sounds like someone needs a hug!
  • 60
 So they put a Vorsprung Corset and called it a day
  • 60
 Well, I don't know if you noticed but there was the whole part about them designing a new damper also.
  • 10
 I noticed a bit about re-engineering the CTD to DPS including ability to adjust LSC on Open, which is nice, but didn't seem to concern actual damping performance. Not that I'm too unhappy about my RP23 HV. It's OK and nice and light. I've a coil if I want more grip or oil volume and weight.
  • 41
 @mikelevy - I see that both this shock and the new 34 are remote compatible. At the risk of drawing the ire of my peers, do you know whether these two can be spliced to one shared remote, as with CTD?
  • 83
 Must be Fox week at the office
  • 253
 The fork and shock were delivered at the same time, but reviewing both in the same article would make it too long.
  • 154
 I guessed that, just trying my hand at internet humor
  • 61
 Doing pretty wellSmile I like your hands-on approach
  • 50
 That's what she said.
  • 72
 If it's possible to call a shock ugly, that's what I'd call this one.
  • 43
 This shock sounds pretty sweet. My only concern, as always with fox, is how long before the medium setting (trail) stops working? In the past all of my propedal switches have become nothing more than a fancy decision, and since my bikes have had active suspension designs that has influenced pedaling significantly. My drcv was rebuilt by fox in January and the trail setting just failed. I how the new internals have addressed this. If not I how a long term review addresses it. I think one reason less reviewers do talk about it is they tend to ride bikes with a linkage system that provides platform through its leverage curve so they just leave the shock open. With an abp rear end you petty much have to leave it in trail mode most of the time.
  • 21
 I would be shocked if this was sold in drcv(slash) sizing, but no idea if there is a upgrade air can option?

I only use trail mode on Tarmac, always fully open with a push 10cc volume chip and firm tune 180/160psi depending on content.
  • 10
 Cool, but irrelevant. I have only owned one drcv shock, but I've had 4 fox shocks and they all had the problem stated above, including my current one. And whether you use trail mode or not is also irrelevant to my stated concern.
  • 40
 Clearly I need to proof read better. Maybe my above post is to unclear. Will the medium setting work for a full season or will it fail in a month like my other 4 foxes have (even after fox rebuilds them).
  • 10
 Only time will tell, I've already had the rebound and sealing fixed under warranty inc the ctd switch.
  • 12
 My CTD settings actually work since my shock has been PUSHed.
  • 10
 That may be my next move if I can't just pick up an RS Debonair.........
  • 31
 I wonder if this shock would be much of an improvement over my 2013 CTD in my Orbea Occam 29 carbon. It's only 105mm of travel in the back but as is it feels like 120mm and climbs like a goat.
  • 92
 Anything is better than CTD. The flex in a steel hardtail is better than a CTD
  • 20
 Avalanche is going to begin re-tuning of CTD evo shocks later this month (and already tunes other CTD shocks). that might be a cheaper and better option
  • 10
 I've been pretty happy with my 2014 F29 CTD Factory 120. It works very well and is a noticeable improvement over the RLC it replaced.
  • 30
 Mike, I like your words in your take: anyone who puts grams before performance deserves to come second to someone who doesn't.
  • 71
 April fool!
  • 20
 Yup. In reality it still has CTD!
  • 51
 You can't trust the Internet today, but I rode this air spring, and it feels almost identical to a DHX RC4 in terms of suppleness
  • 50
 April fools joke
  • 20
 Ugh, air can sleeve with o-ring seals. Buyer beware: the high volume air can on my monarch has been a constant source of leaks. (uses the same method of sealing.)
  • 10
 hadn't thought of that. Seems like they could have the extra neg volume part of the canister thread on to the rest of it like the canister threads into the head of the shock. probably would have "added too much weight" so we ended up with a less reliable product. I wonder how the Corset achieves its larger neg air chamber? Vorspung is kind of tight lipped about the construction (as they should be, ripoffs abound).
  • 10
 I believe all the Vorsprung stuff is a full replacement air can, no removable sleeve.
  • 20
 Vorsprung are a similar design. Depending on which sized air can you have I believe (small diameter or large diameter). The small diameter eyelet cans are the same two piece design with an inner and outer can with 4 sealing orings. There was a couple instances of the first batch not having the orings installed. They have started shipping the corset with spare orings though now so you can self service if there is ever any leaking issues.
  • 10
 thanks @smokenhq. great info.
  • 10
 I've not been all that impressed with my 2014 Factory CTD shock compared to some 100 dolla X-Fusion O2 shock I got off of ebay as far as how the damper feels...
  • 20
 be interesting to compare it to a DB inline which is cheaper in the UK than the current 2015 CTD factory BV shock.
  • 10
 still in love with my Fox RP23 2012, working smooth as silk on my 26' Reign:

ps: all the above sound like im collecting old stuff
  • 20
 Short travel bikes are gna be the hot ticket moving forward. Carbon 120-140 bike @25lbs w/dropper
  • 31
 Why not have 180mm @25.7lbs and get really rowdy?
  • 10
 Well, my range c is close @28.5ish, and I've been daydreamn about a 170 on it.
I'm just sayn big ol picture wise, big bikes are lil overkill...short travel looks promising now that reviews say they don't blow thru travel, 140 34 or pike on proper bikes like an evil following, intense spyder, transition, gt sensor..mtb is goin off!
  • 10
 So when the RP23 went from "1, 2, 3" to "C, T, D" is was reason enough to upgrade and now that it has gone to "O, M, F" it kind of explains itself now doesn't it...
  • 20
 I got the chance to use a bike with this shock on it, and let me say, this bad boy is amazing.
  • 10
 Now that both teams are aboard, frame manufactures recalculate the leverage ratios so we don't have to pump that shit to 300.
  • 97
 All aboard the Fox hype train....
  • 71
 The fork and shock were delivered at the same time, but reviewing both in the same article would make it too long.
  • 140
 All aboard the conspiracy train . . .
  • 50
 Toot toot!
  • 50
 Hoot hoot... !
  • 10
 Will the Evol can be available as an upgrade for my 2014 Float X or should I get the Vorsprung Corset?
  • 20
 Of Corset it would be nice to know how much as well, thanks @mikelevy
  • 40
 For us Yankees (exchange) the Vorsprung Corset are affordable. Been playing with one installed on my son's bike. They are everything they said they are!
  • 20
 OK, who's going to get the Corset and the Evol air can and compare? Since I'm pretty sure Mike Levy (or Pinkbike) won't be doing this.
  • 32
 Id rather support Corset than fox anyways Razz
  • 10
 @Xyphota and so did I ;-)
  • 76
 looks like fox have copied rockshox again with using a simiilar design to the debonair !, #embarrasmentnumber2 !
  • 40
 Exactly my thought. I agree it`s kind of embarrassing but for us riders I only see advantages in companies "borrowing" technology that makes our bikes ride better.
  • 42
 Actually. .. fox had the ava float shock back in the early 2000's with adjustable air sleeve, running one now on my 2013 frankenfloat!
  • 20
 All right people, nothing to see here.
  • 10
 It would seem everybody has a sense of humor except for FOX. Where's my joke article about a fork?
  • 32
 managed to go back up to the top of the news, how much do Fox pay for that privilege?
  • 11
 Well I don't only ride in open mode and in fact only use firm and medium or climb and trail. So, I'm not agreeing with having tunable high speed comp only in full open.
  • 20
 So they got CTD right finally and decided to call it DPS?
  • 10
 @mikelevy is there any indication when the Float X version will be available?
  • 10
 Sounds like it's coming in May/June. (rumors from Fox reps)
  • 20
 Not quite sure if I can see eye to eye with this shock.
  • 10
 Will the Evol air can be retrofittable to previous Fox shocks?
  • 31
 Yes it does
  • 30
 No, it won't.

www.bikerumor.com/2015/03/31/fox-launches-new-line-of-34-trail-forks-float-dps-shock-evol-air-sleeve-plus-interview-with-mark-jordan

BIKERUMOR: Will the EVOL be available as an after market upgrade?
The EVOL air can is only available on 2016 product right now because the damping tune needs to match the character of the air spring.
  • 20
 In the bike rumour article, they quoted fox saying that they arent going to be available for after market for a long time, as all of the EVOL cans getting produced are going directly on the shocks. I wouldnt expect them to be available until next year...
  • 30
 ...So variable-visual is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.
  • 20
 RidonKulus asked for availability, i dunno when it will be out, but it will fit on previous shox, and that was his question, thanks Scottz & Xyphota.
  • 21
 the can looks like corset copy.
  • 21
 It's not surprising, anyone could look at the air springs on the market and see why they sucked.
  • 11
 Fox damper that sucks less? In my books that is still negative progress. And its not a shock so dont call it that.
  • 10
 April fools... Shock still sucks! Wink
  • 10
 The corset fixed my ride mondraker foxy carbon







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