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Porsche Acquires Majority Stake in Greyp eBikes

Nov 22, 2021
by Ed Spratt  

Porsche has expanded further into the e-bike market after securing a majority stake in Greyp.

After revealing its own eMTBs made by Rotwild earlier this year Porsche has now increased its stake in Greyp, a Croatian electric bike company. Previously Porsche had bought a 10% stake in the company and a 25% stake in Greyp's parent company Rimac that makes electric sports cars. Now Porsche has taken things a step further and secured a majority holding in Greyp suggesting it may be taking the e-bike and eMTB market more seriously in the future.

Mate Rimac and other Greyp founders will keep their minority shares in the company, with the Porsche purchase expected to be complete on December 18.

bigquotesI am super proud of the Greyp team, led by Krešimir Hlede, and what they have built over the last 7 years. The 100-people strong team has undoubtedly created the most connected and technologically advanced e-bikes on the market, set up series production in Sveta Nedelja and shipped bikes all over the world. At the same time, Greyp has been in the shadow of Rimac and could never flourish in its full potential.

Now, we are starting an exciting new chapter in the company’s history - with Porsche buying the majority stake in Greyp. This will be the seed for something great and big, but we’ll talk about that another time.

The deal is still in final execution so I can’t say much yet
Mate Rimac, CEO of Rimac Group

bigquotesPorsche is a pioneer of sustainable mobility and is consistently driving forward its e- mobility strategy. Our activities in the e-bike sector underline our consistent approach. Porsche has been a leading provider of plug-in hybrids for years, in 2019 we launched the first all-electric Porsche – the Taycan – and last year, one in three of the vehicles we delivered was fitted with an electric motor. Our ambitious goal is to have a CO2-neutral balance sheet across the entire value chain by 2030. Lutz Meschke, deputy chairman of the Porsche AG Executive Board

Porsche's last attempt at making an eMTB.

Porsche has previously had a long term relationship with German brand Rotwild for its past attempt at selling bicycles and eMTBs. With the investment in Greyp, it will be interesting to see what they produce next. Greyp has a substantial lineup of bikes with both commuter options and more heavy-duty eMTBs. In 2019 Greyp launched its first carbon fiber, full-suspension eMTB, the G6. Greyp's G6 features 160mm of travel, a mullet setup and built-in cameras.


156 Comments

  • 240 7
 "Porsche is a pioneer of sustainable mobility" Porsche are primarily a sports car producer, how can they say they are a pioneer of sustainability? More greenwashing.
  • 114 1
 It's the VW group. Don't expect better.
  • 47 0
 You beat me to comment on that line. How exactly producing 150k+ cars is sustainable? Sustainable mobility are mass commuter solutions not Taycans and 911s.
  • 28 12
 Porsche is one of the first manufacturers who is replacing carbon fiber with natural fiber composites for semi structural and structural applications. Not saying that buying a Porsche is better for the environment than a small electric car, but they certainly are a driver for sustainable solutions in their market segment.
  • 26 8
 @SleepingAwake: You cannot just buy "sustainability". A luxury car manufacturer isn't sustainable by their very nature. Cars are 40% of the problem. Does that mean I could roll coal down to buy some e company shares and call myself sustainable?
  • 13 4
 Look at how many are still going strong in their fourth or fifth decade. Well beyond the price of most people (me included) but at least they don't fall to pieces at 5 years.
  • 1 1
 Isn't there a rule that a car company should produce cars about this (value) fuel efficient? So for average car manufacturers that'd be the compromise between efficient and low acquisition price. For luxury car manufacturers that implies that they can only continue producing fuel guzzlers if they offset that with other cars with low emission.
  • 17 0
 @SleepingAwake: That is such a strange thing to do, because the toxic ingredient in carbon fiber is not the carbon but the resin holding it together.
  • 6 0
 @SleepingAwake: it’s a luxury product, just like mtn biking there’s is NO arguing it in anyway that’s ‘sustainable’. Sustainable is good but it’s used out of context all the time anymore. Any modern man made manufactured item is not indefinitely sustainable.
  • 19 3
 I bet you there are no Taycans that still run in 50 years. Plenty of ICE Porsches do. Perhaps in that respect they are becoming less sustainable. The best thing for the planet would be to ban the manufacture of new cars.ake the ones we already have last and last buy repair and replacement of parts only when necessary.
  • 3 0
 @littleskull99: yeah i fully agree with your statement. Nonetheless they are taking steps in the right direction which hopefully will be implemented by other brands in different market segments.

@Startgas: You are wrong about this, in a carbon composite part the fibre is responsible for the vast majority of the CO2 emissions. Even with recycled carbon the impact comes still mostly from the fibres.
  • 5 0
 @littleskull99: But, He didn't suggest Porsche is a model of sustainability. He wrote that due to their R&D efforts, they are a driver for sustainable solutions in their market segment. I think if you reread what he wrote, you'll see he wrote nothing contentious.
  • 3 0
 @SleepingAwake: Interesting, I had no idea. Just looked it up. Immediately made me wonder if anyone in the bike industry is looking at the same material. Not clear on why anyone is downvoting you, you were spot on and acknowledging that Porsche is no angle regardless. Oh well, PB comments...
  • 1 0
 @littleskull99: Did you mean this for Sleeping? All I saw is he pointed out the new material, which I find pretty interesting and hopefully the bike industry is at least looking into it.
  • 1 0
 @Startgas: Yes and no, depends on your definition of "toxic". The actual carbon fibers are rather hard to recycle, and take more energy to create than the Flax version. So basically they seem to have solved for one of the two parts, which I think is pretty cool?
  • 2 0
 @colincolin: You won't believe how low their emissions are.
  • 1 0
 @not-really: Lightyear are producing the "One", a 150K car and I would consider them reasonably sustainable.
  • 3 0
 @SleepingAwake: not to mention vegan interior options
  • 1 2
 maybe more of their cars are still around than the shitboxes like Corollas etc?
  • 2 0
 Smoke and mirrors, they have practice. Remember WWII, ever do any research on what Porsche was up to in the 40's???
  • 1 1
 @AC-Fabz: Ehrm, what was BMW doing during the first and second war then? And how is that relevant to bicycles with pedal assist now?

I think flax and hemp are high performance fibres and are already commonly used in car interiors. They're actually strong enough for structural parts too but the big challenge for engineers is that the performance isn't as controlled as industrially produced fibres/metals/plastics so it is harder to critically design. But even during the second world war, a wooden plane like the Haviland Mosquito was superior as they were just better at making stuff from wood than from metals back then. Plus the material was more available. So yeah, we may revisit that time in a way. You can ship materials from the other side of the world where they are mined, or you can grow them locally. Conservation (paint, impregnation) may then compromise end of life disposal, but even if you burn them you'll be CO2 neutral. If you manage to breed a fungus that eats even through conserved material, you can actually retrieve some nutrients and put them back in the soil. Maybe this will never happen, but I think it could be cool if it would. The big driver will be scarcity of energy and materials. I just doubt that Porsche is the best brand to present the solution.
  • 2 1
 @jaame: I'd instead argue (along with banning ICE) mandating all new electric vehicles MUST have modular and standardized batteries, control units, and motors; this way as battery technology improves it's not a problem to 'upgrade' your old EV's instead of replacing them! My 1998 Trek 920 is now in it's 5th reincarnation: XC, trail riding, touring, commuting, now winter beater... It had great fundamentals when new, and after 23 years it rides substantially better than the day it left the factory thanks to modern drivetrains, tires, cockpit, wheels, and fork.
  • 2 0
 @littleskull99 100% agree with you. One interesting thing is that the very first vehicle Ferdinand Porsche made was a wagon that was powered by an electric transmission that was powered by a gas motor. He won a race on that thing as well. So, as far as I know it was the first hybrid, it was made in 1890. It's the first vehicle you will see at the Porsche museum in Stuttgart Germany. The second vehicle that has the Porsche name is another hybrid that had 4 electric motors at each wheel, and was powered by a gas motor. #sorryforbeinganerd
  • 5 3
 @nzandyb: That is a good idea. If it were up to me I would ban the school run before I banned the ICE. I would also ban single driver journeys in full size cars. I would encourage car companies to make desirable fully enclosed scooters or one/two seat cars with small engines for the majority of journeys in which only one person is in the vehicle. I would also take out as many traffic lights as possible and replace them with tree covered roundabouts - the stop start is a terrible cause of pollution.

While I'm at it, I would cut the impact of water treatment and degrade the water quality we have piped to our homes. We treat all of our water to potable standards, and then flush 95% of it down the drain (according to my water bill, 95% of it is taken away as sewerage). We literally only drink 5% of the water we use, and we use drinking water to wash away our turds. Not very environmentally responsible.

I would certainly back a return to the old days where people fixed shit instead of throwing it away. This should come through culture and not legislaton though. Hopefully it will happen as the younger generation comes to power.

Another thing I would do instead of making meat illegal (which I think we are heading towards) is to simply ban commercial butchers. Make people kill and butcher their own animals and meat consumption will plummet. I could handle doing a chicken or a goat, but I doubt I would eat beef again and I love beef.

What else? Ah yes. Too many people. The human population needs to be cut in half somehow. Amazing to think that in 1870 there were only a billion people alive. Someone needs to think of a way to convince people to stop having kids for a couple of generations. Perhaps encouraging dog/cat ownership would be a good bet.
  • 2 0
 @AyJayDoubleyou:
Not really impressive. Many of those old sport cars have not much miles on the clock.
  • 2 0
 @SleepingAwake: the C02 impact is from the fibers, but the resin creates significant gas and metal pollution makes it unrecyclable in most cases (some allow you to burn it off with more pollution) so...you're both right
  • 9 3
 @jaame:
Funny how you can make fundamentally illiberal ideas (ban this, prohibit that, reduce the population, etc) appeal to liberals if you wrap them up in an eco context.

Have a look at what you just wrote and ask yourself what major political movement of the 20th century it has most in common with. You may not like the answer.

I find a lot of this kind of talk worrying - it has all the self righteous zeal of a religious movement, and little regard for nuance or the actual reality of the world.

JP
  • 2 0
 @Chuckolicious: Urge atleast used to use a woven natural material in there helmet shells as an alternative to carbon not to sure if thats still the case now though
  • 1 0
 @Chuckolicious: Some bike companies have already offered bikes with natural fibers (usually Flax) in place of some of the carbon. Usually they have claimed superior vibration damping as the main benefit. The two that spring to mind are Look and Museeuw on their road bikes.
  • 1 0
 @thekaiser: Thanks for the leads! I wonder if bars and saddles might be a good application. I had a raw uncovered CF saddle decades ago. Weighed nothing, but just imagine if it had a failure!
  • 2 0
 @littleskull99: The air their factories put exhaust is allegedly cleaner than what went in, and they say the same about their cars if you're driving around the city. They're also working on synthetic fuels which take more carbon out of the air to produce than they put back when they burn it.

So there are many things they are doing which are progressing the industry forward, even if all of it is so they can sell more flat 6s.
  • 4 0
 @Jprestidge: Funny how you can make a wealthy capitalist suddenly embrace socialism; just move to pass laws to force them to pay for the externalized costs of their products (health issues caused by pollution, damage due to global warming, etc), and all of a sudden they don't feel like they should bear the full costs of the production of the items they are selling, and want the cost to be borne by the taxpayers.

Honestly, I am fine with people producing nearly anything, as long as they bear the cost of cleaning up after themselves (and presumably bake it into the cost of the goods sold).
  • 1 0
 @dontcoast: what do you mean by "gas and metal pollution" ? the life cycle of a flax part with incineration with energy recuperation has less global warming potential than just even recycling waste carbon fiber. There are also significant efforts in using naturally sources for resin production, which again would lower the CO2 emissions over the life cycle
  • 2 0
 @Jprestidge: You raise a good point. Restrict the media, conscript civilians, completely reorient the economy to war, ship thousands into camps. And that was just the British government in the face of a political movement in the 20th century. Sometimes, against an existential threat, otherwise terrifying illiberal ideas suddenly make a lot more sense.
  • 1 0
 @Ozziefish: Means never justify any ends, because the means always end up becoming the ends, to paraphrase Huxley.

JP
  • 1 0
 @SleepingAwake: Yes Funny that Henry Ford made a car out of hemp, only his solution was to continue to use steel & hemp was banned, such forward thinking?
  • 1 0
 @AyJayDoubleyou: some not without a great deal of maintenance. But at least the early 2000's cars (fried egg era) are attainable for the average joe (sort of, could be had for 18-25k), provided you have $1500 to spend replacing the IMS bearing.
  • 1 0
 @SimonD: Not a chance. Corollas last forever and here in NE US they only finally die as they succumb to rust and road salt. I'd argue the Corolla owner has a lower carbon footprint as they can drive that car into the ground, and are likely one-vehicle people rather than Porsche owners who typically own at least one other vehicle.
  • 1 0
 "I don't always post, but when I do I make sure to do zero research before spouting off my nonsense"
-littleskull99, probably
  • 1 0
 more carbon tax credits please
  • 3 0
 @SleepingAwake: I was saying the resin used in most CFRP today leads to offgassing and heavy metal contamination. Basically, removing the carbon fibers is an amazing step in reducing carbon footprint, but let's not pretend there aren't other significant pollution issues with composites.

(I bring this up because the "global warming/c02 conversation has an unfortunate tendency to ignore other pollution/habitat impacts of the industrial anthropocene)

I am 100% for flax (or hemp) fiber with low-impact resins and am thrilled there are significant efforts to improve such technology.
  • 3 0
 @dontcoast: If you use a fiber like hemp or flax, it is even more important to use less toxic resins as when you have exposed fibers (which you get when you have air bubbles trapped during the RTM process) they will work as runners to vent the toxic stuff to the outside. Plus of course, it should always be a consideration whereas we should indeed carry toxic stuff into nature for our recreation. We already have teflon-free chain lubes (been using Green Oil for fifteen years or so now) but the big elephant obviously is our tires rubbing off as we're enjoying ourselves.
  • 114 0
 That is the most offensive looking emtb I've seen. Hideous, seriously
  • 9 0
 ugliest ish with the name Porsche on
  • 10 0
 These flat pedals look like 2010. Look a these cables on the seatpost, too. Actually the whole bike looks like an eBike from many years ago. I wonder if someone has just bought a rare old e-MTB on ebay, and sold the "technology" to Porsche
  • 4 1
 I’m have not owned a non e bike in almost 3 years, but if that was my only option I would not be riding an e bike. Quite possibly the ugliest one I have had the displeasure of looking at!
  • 3 0
 needs a banana seat and then I'd be ok with it
  • 1 0
 Agreed, I'm amazed at how they can get away with that when their parent company makes such beautiful electric cars!
  • 1 0
 @jaznomore: and some bars end also a few more cables...
  • 3 0
 Yeah I feel greyp'd just looking at it
  • 2 0
 The first ebike they produced was not ugly enough, so they acquired the only manufacturer with an uglier bike.
  • 61 0
 The "undoubtedly most connected and technologically advanced e-bikes on the market" sure are ugly as hell.
Weird looking parts + weird looking china frame = most advanced = profit
  • 5 1
 Hey man, Porsche's might be dated in their car design but they're not that bad!
  • 3 0
 @scott-townes: the 928 was a pretty fast and good looking ride back in its day.
  • 1 7
flag xxinsert-name-herexx (Nov 22, 2021 at 7:07) (Below Threshold)
 @cypress-mtb-club: Still is, but when a V12 Jaguar is more reliable there's a big problem... Mine's just sat in my garage, I'll get to it some day, maybe when the prices have gone up.
  • 4 0
 @xxinsert-name-herexx: LOL did you just say Jaguar and reliable in the same sentence? 911's have always been solid (other than some odd engine issues with the 996), other Porsches maybe not so much.
  • 47 0
 I'm glad they've kept the trend going of car manufacturers doing an absolutely awful job of moving into the bike market. Long may it continue!
  • 38 0
 wow... that is an amazingly ugly mountain bike...
  • 13 9
 As far as ebikes go, par for the course.
  • 26 0
 As with all things Porsche, the options are what'll kill ya.
Bike: $10,000 USD
Base Grips: $3500
Heated and ventilated 18 way lock-on grips: $4500
Air in all-conditions tires: $500
Nitrogen in race-day tires: $1000
Sport Chrono Package (bike computer): $3500
  • 18 0
 Being a Croatian and having a huge respect for Rimac I can only say finally! Making the best electric hypercars and the shittiest e-bikes under the same roof, to me, always felt kinda awkward
  • 1 0
 But they are still under the same roof now?
  • 1 0
 @FuzzyL: He is building a new campus and it was said that Greyp will have part of it..
  • 16 0
 3…2…1…. Water bottle!
  • 23 0
 Its doesn’t need one, its has the latest synergy drive hybrid hydration system that ‘reuses’ sweat from your butt crack when used in conjunction with the Porsche Osmosis Omentum shorts. The future is brown!
  • 8 0
 you don't work up a sweat on an ethingy. Well you might when you're putting it on the bike rack etc.
  • 2 0
 @nukedchipp: you do when the battery of the brake-by-wire system goes flat on a double black run...
  • 2 0
 Wouldn’t you just have your butler jog along beside you? Who carries their own water?!?
  • 12 0
 And the engine goes in the back.
  • 11 1
 Being Croatian, my level of pride of Rimac (cars/tech) is equally matched by the level of shame I feel when I see Greyp bikes.
  • 11 0
 What a beauty.
  • 6 0
 specialized/yeti/etc: lets make a emtb thats look as close as possible to regular mtb
porsche: looks like motorbike designed by 8 yo kid? take my money!
  • 7 1
 Dentist- shows up with a Yeti mounted on top of his Porche
Orthodontist- "hold my beer". shows up with a Porche mounted on top of his Porche.
  • 13 1
 What’s a Porche? Is that like a really fancy porch?
  • 1 0
 It’s their new porch division
  • 3 0
 Person who rode their normal bike to the trailhead - "excuse me, do you have any GREYPoupon?"
  • 1 0
 @americandentalassociation: lol i guess i have to retract my comment due to spelling.
  • 6 0
 That battery placement is basically a middle finger to the Pinkbike comment section. "DEHYDRATE AND DIE!"
  • 6 0
 ive yet to see a car manufacturer bike that wasnt a lame bike with a brand name slapped on it .
  • 1 0
 Rn01
  • 3 0
 So Bugatti goes from VW to Rimac and Greyp from Rimac to Porsche... What sort of Strategy should this be???

Bugatti very nice looking cars
Greyp ugly bikes with lots of app integration and stuff, but UGLY as hell
  • 4 0
 It's like brands from the same conglomerate buying out each other, what's the point in this ? It's all different flavours of golfs in the end.
  • 1 0
 The market for Bugatti's is not really expanding. The market for e bikes on the other hand, certainly is. The willingness of people to spend $10k+ on one proves the point.
  • 2 0
 I can't wait until I can put one of those over the back of my high pivot Trek Turbo V12... and on a nice day take my 650bhp mullet Santa Cruz Spyder S for a spin... as long as it can take a water bottle. Also my 4 wheel drive Scott Scrambler had better be able to drive down raw cliff faces, otherwise it's too slopestyley. What else?
  • 4 0
 reminds me that horrible and also ugly rebranded Votec... never understood this product extensions from car brands...
  • 1 0
 Maybe the purchase is more about Rimac than it is about some ugly E-Moped. The Taycan needs to be faster than the Model S Plaid, not just look better. Porsche wants to benchmark the entire auto industry, maybe to get to the top of the EV side they bought a majority share in Rimac to get ahold of some patents.
  • 7 0
 Having been in a Taycan turbo S, i dont think anyone is going to notice the 0.3 seconds extra it took to get to 60, however, they will notice the fact their Plaid isnt stopping after going warpspeed due to its cruddy braking performance. thats quite a big selling point to me lol.
  • 1 0
 @MartyMcfly2810: the bigger issue is that it’s a mass production Porsche with a base price of £140k, with no charging infrastructure.
  • 2 0
 I always find it interesting when automobile manufactures make play into the cycling market but almost always never make a dent.

But anyway, does anyone have any tips for removing vomit from a keyboard?
  • 1 0
 Actually, Porsche made the first electric car:
In 1898, Ferdinand Porsche designed the Egger-Lohner C.2 Phaeton. The vehicle was powered by an octagonal electric motor, and with three to five PS it reached a top speed of 25 km/h
  • 5 0
 ugly POS
  • 4 0
 Bike looks fugly, gonna sell my 911 now!
  • 1 1
 I would have the dropper post from that bike maybe and bin the rest. I thought those wheels were a relic of past failings! We need PB tech folk to work out the RPM required from your legs to drive that gear ratio to 15mph haha. Only really any use for Danny Mac climbing his local stairs with no helmet on.
  • 2 0
 Did the engineer who designed that first one accidentally get the "position all the mass as low as possible" schematics upside down?
  • 5 1
 It's a motorcycle..........
  • 1 0
 I always thought bikes to be simpler as cars. But this is not the case. It appears people can design and build some of the most advanced sports cars out there but poorly fail in building a bike.
  • 5 0
 SOUR GREYPS
  • 2 0
 Greyps of wrath
  • 3 0
 Don't let Richard Hammond near one of those bikes...he has a rather unfortunate history with Rimac products...
  • 1 0
 And for the best "pull my string" post is a weee bit ~ Pinkbike and Porsche for the win! This epitomizes a slow news day when skunkwash like this passes for a note worthy story.
  • 1 0
 So when does the rear mounted “turbo” e bike come out. As well as the special edition with out stickers or paint so it’s lighter and a more pure riders bike get released.
  • 1 1
 Greyp is the weirdest, Brand they couldve find.
Greyp is so not MTB, even looking at the ppl working for them at Events.
They are Ugly, they dont match the needs of MTBers, the Design is ugly as hell.

Porsche, this is embarrasing.

Next please...

How frkn hard can it be for a multi billion dollar car brand to finally cooperate with a bike brand to make a Bike that ppl would actually buy?
Only Brand was Honda and they never sold it to Customers.
  • 1 0
 It's funny how getting into the bike business is apparently something they actually care about, but they just keep failing. You'd think a company as rich as them would have the resources to do a little market research.
  • 3 0
 When you know they wont like it but you make it anyway
  • 1 0
 If this bike with the battery across the frame is as efficient as it is ugly, it will probably fight for the first place of the most efficient e-mtb of the 2022 season!
  • 7 4
 2 girls 1 cup is easy to look at than this
  • 2 0
 The kind of bike you find in a department store with crappy components but flashy Porsche decals
  • 2 0
 Absolutely unhappy in seeing a car manufacturer entering in the bike business.....
  • 4 0
 like.. GRAPE?
  • 3 0
 That bike looks like it's gonna Greyp you in the mouth.
  • 1 0
 I got no beef with ebikes but all these companies that did not help build this sport, that are now jumping in on the ebike game is a little off putting. Porsche GTFOH!!!
  • 4 1
 Does anyone else feel slightly sick seeing this shit?
  • 3 0
 *screams in dentist*
  • 3 1
 I’m waiting for the new Jeep bike! Car manufacturers are the best.
  • 2 0
 That looks like complete shit...
  • 2 0
 This bike is odious!! is all I have to say
  • 2 0
 Stick the motor behind the rear wheel and let's have some sideways fun !
  • 1 0
 On the bright side you can finally brag about affording and owning a Porsche.
  • 2 1
 A car company buys a motorcycle company. Why is this announced on a bicycle website????
  • 2 0
 Same reason you wouldn’t ask a bike designer to design a car body . . .
  • 2 0
 That Greyp looks like the 914 of ebikes. Yikes!
  • 1 0
 Hopefully Porsche can make the next greyp look more like their cars and less like a walmart emtb.
  • 1 0
 I imagine Porsche are buying technology rather than going into the emtb market.
  • 2 0
 its like when Homer designed that bubble car
  • 2 0
 Put the motor on the rear hub so the bike handles like a boat (Porsche)
  • 2 0
 Wadefak is dat looks lika an Alien.
  • 1 0
 how come every time a non bike company makes a bike it always looks shit? (excluding honda)
  • 1 0
 It seems they forgot to hire designers... Despite focusing on function, this is an ugly as f... bike.
  • 1 0
 Premier league footballers rejoice!
  • 2 0
 Is it April yet? Big Grin
  • 4 4
 Do you have to be 65 years old and bald to own one of these? How about just a douche bag?
  • 1 0
 Hope Porsche won't take an example on Greyp's design language...
  • 2 0
 Fake and greyp
  • 2 0
 Kill it with fire!
  • 2 0
 umm hard pass
  • 2 0
 Ugly AF.
  • 2 2
 Yawn...more bikes for boomers to spend their retirement on & break their hips.... Next article please.
  • 1 0
 The margins are soo good Everybody wants a slice
  • 2 0
 Bum greyp.
  • 1 0
 ebikes are notoriously ugly but man these take it to a new level
  • 1 0
 No word yet on any future moves market leader Yellowp is planning...
  • 1 0
 Do the air shocks deflate and lower so I can get on easier?
  • 1 0
 Hot tip - if you have grey p you should go see a doctor
  • 1 0
 Shouldn't the engine be behind the rear hub?
  • 1 0
 Good lord those bikes are ugly.
  • 1 0
 To quote Wesley in Princess Bride, “Dear god, what IS that thing?!”
  • 1 0
 The new 911Wh
  • 2 1
 lawl
  • 1 0
 #uglyaf
  • 4 5
 Looks quite nice - for an e-bike.
  • 12 0
 Did a stone get into your eyes?
  • 2 1
 @xxinsert-name-herexx: ha-ha. Early morning comment, still waking up.

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