Nearly every time I log onto Facebook I end up regretting it. It isn't because I'm jealous about what my friends are eating for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It's not down to the thirty identical photos of the same baby, all taken from the same angle. And I can't even blame the ridiculous amount of company call-outs and cheesy hashtags that people seem to feel they need to use anytime they do anything. Newsflash: your @fiveten shoes might be great, but they sure as hell didn't make it #thebestdamnrideever. Nope, what gets me is how so many of us seem to feel the need to tell the world that we've gone for a ride in the first place. I know that I sound like the fun police, and that there's really no harm in letting your friends know that you had an #epic #day #on #the #bike, but it's gotten to the point where I'm starting to wonder if it counts as a ride if you don't tell everyone about it. What makes me grumble even more, though, is that I'm just as guilty as anyone else, with a quick scroll through my own Facepage revealing a 50/50 mix of both "Look at me, I'm riding a bike!" photos and links to Vimeo videos that somewhere between one and three of my friends click on. Hey, at least there aren't pictures of every meal that I've eaten in the last four years.
Why is it that we feel the need to tell everyone that we've gone for a ride? Is it to let them know the trail conditions? Maybe we just want our friends to know that we returned home safely and had a great day? Or maybe, just maybe, we want everyone to know that the ride had 9,000ft of climbing. In the rain. And you were on your singlespeed. And you were being chased by wolves the entire time. And that you ate tacos at Miguel's afterwards. Colour me a hypocrite because I'd sure as hell share that story as well, but part of me wonders why. After all, isn't getting chased by wolves for 70km enough of a rush that you shouldn't feel the need to get a bunch of e-hugs from online acquaintances? All this got me thinking about how often we use social media outlets to tell our friends and sorta-friends that we've been out on our bike.
For me Facebook is all about sharing cool memories with my friends, I enjoy looking at theirs and I hope that they enjoy looking at mine.
At the end of the day this website is a social media and the exact same thing happens here, #VOD
And whilst pinkbike may be social media now, like every public website out there, it was an online magazine originally wasn't it? But one thing facebook does do better is no neg prop thing, f*cking nonsense. Allowing people to be anonymously negative. Why? I watch people get attacked by the hoards sometimes and you know its only because people love to be in the group. If you're gonna be negative, have the balls to put it in words and be known.
I'm right there with you man. I wont give you the whole story, but im 21 now.
From the ages 15-19 I was a complete f*ck up. Drugs, bad company, arrests, dropped out of school.
Along the way I made a lot of friends that still aren't doing so well.
Now that I have pulled my head out of my ass and quit the shit, all I live for is going to college, riding my bike every chance I get, 4wheelin the shit out of my Jeep, and having a good time with girls.
I post up any good pictures of any of the activities where I'm having fun without being loaded on booze or pills and I have my old friends telling me how much they want to get involved and sometimes I can help.
If my little pictures can have an impact in a positive way on my down and out buddies, then I feel like I have accomplished something. It took me a long time to find something to replace MX racing which I cannot afford to do, and I thank the lord I was lucky enough to find my way into cycling, in any form.
And yes of course I love it when some hot bitch likes my picture, she obviously wants the dick then bro.
My family has a self-imposed rule about SM, and even the young ones are limited in what they can do...
Frankly, if you're worried about what your bros or hoes on FB think about your ride, you're probably not riding hard enough.
When I finish a good one, all I can think about is the hose in the yard, a nice chilled dram of single malt or rye, and a BIG HONKIN' SANDWICH.
Haaa
And is it cool to hate on FB?
I did not know that.
I know kids (like my oldest) are going to things like Instagram, etc, but I don't see any hatred for FB at all... so no, not really...
What irks me about the social media thing is that companies do giveaways and prize promotions through these things, and those of us without them can't join in. That's not right, folks.
However, the baby pictures are getting really old. THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE! Unless dressing your kid up like a tomato or Godzilla is a daily occurrence, seeing photos every time they eat or sleep or take a shit is annoying... However, those parents probably hate me, too. "All of those trails look the same!" or "Christ, ANOTHER gratuitous race/jump/technical shot? Ugh."
I guess that's what friendship is about -- tolerating the annoying shit and loving your people anyway.
If you're not on social media, I'll probably just hashtag #yournameheredontgram. Just because I love you anyway.
People need to learn to stay off your f*cking gadgets and INTERACT SOCIALLY in person.
That being said, the whole world has fb and those who dont, kudos. But just because to you it may not count as a ride to post something for others to see doesnt mean it counts it out. At the end of the day it comes down to your own beliefs and to be honest, if you rode a sick track, whether you slap that bitch on Social Media sites for others to see or not thats your call. And furthermore, youre just giving yourself a headache with this article cause clearly you know how you feel about this lol... and the answer is soooo simple
Just go out and ride people... enjoy the moment.
The world of 'Likes' and Hashtags is alien to me.
Then how is it you are able to make a comment about them if said world is so alien to you...
I remember in 9th grade I got bullied because I only added my real friends on facebook, so I only had 60 friends whereas other people had like 400 "friends". That's when I decided to delete my account. And it really isn't a problem, there's tons of other ways to stay in touch with people.
I'll occasionally share my Strava on Facebook but only when its something gnarly with over 4500ft of climbing...its fun to rub it in to your old high school classmates that are prob just waking up from a drunken slumber as you are just getting done slaying singletrack for the last six hours... Can always throw in #whileyouweresleeping for full effect..
(And in all reality, that shit actually does happen -- I have a friend who has insane fitness sponsorships, speaking gigs and has made a full-time career out of posting her meals and workouts on IG and has 100k+ followers. Seriously. It's f*cking wild.)
As the president of Specialized said: if you are into fame and money, then with MTB you are in the wrong business... health&fitness though...
Ok, end of this week where i had next to nothing to do at work, there will be less of me in coming weeks, sorry for crapping all over the place Remember that arguments online are stupid and pointless. being a hipocrite does not mean that what you say is wrong.
I'm probably slower than slow.
On a positive note I also see it as good motivation seeing (via Strava) my peers out on their bikes - I don't want to be left behind in the fitness stakes so that is my reason to hit the turbo (3 kids and being an hour away from any decent hills means I don't get to ride as often as I would like...), so its not just vanity for some...
I'm probably one of the biggest nerds here as I have go-proed my rides while timing them with a bar mounted timer while also Stravaing them. From this I discovered what local tracks Strava was accurate on and which it wasn't. +or- about 30 seconds was pretty normal. So now I just use my bar timer for practice.
What's Facebook? 0
Maybe once in a blue moon. 0
A few times a month. 0
A few times a week. 0
Every lift, snatch, squat. Want to see photos of every meal I've eaten recently? 100,000+
If I can convert people to the biking lifestyle, I consider it a job well done.
Well said.
And what kind of question is it anyway - "does it count as a ride, if I dont tell anyone.."? It counts to myself, so I dont care if it also counts to someone else.
apart from Pinkbike
Bottom line is: it is our feelings, our experiences, our mind is our temple, no one can get what we mean, therefore no one can truly appreciate our effort. How many artist are out there frustrated with unjust interpretations of their work. Keeping it to yourself is not bad, and no one will judge you, in fact no matter how much you post, no one really cares, but people closest to you. You know ones you meet often in real.
Cheers!
Shit. You know what those guys did? They wrote about their fun on the walls of caves with blood, charcoal or carvings. Hundreds of years later, crazy modernists would call the drawings 'archeological gold' instead of 'social media'.
It really wasn't any different, I don't think.
I wholeheartedly agree with Mike's opinion about the counterproductive use of hashtags and call-outs (which in their own right are useful tools in a lot of software), but not so much with the main point of the article. I get the impression that it is just bashing Facebook in general that has become trendy as of late. Of course it does count as a ride if it is not shared, but if I do take some biking pics that I think are nice, what am I supposed to do with them? Watch them alone in the darkest corner of my flat or show them to some people to tell me whether they are utter crap or actually worth a look?
If you have an inability to use the unfriend button or you simply failed to make the choice not to go on Facebook....do I care? No.
If you want to have a debate about things that p*ss us off, then surely we all get some input?Sorry Mike but, it grinds my gears when polls such as this show up on the front page of what is otherwise my favorite website in the history of the internet.
No thanks. I like keeping my solo rides solo, and letting my friends alert the world that we were out when I'm with a group. A big part of mountain biking, for me at least, is getting away from the world for a little bit, getting a rush, and whooping myself so I feel better about crushing beers later with my buddies.
On the other hand, Strava is great for being just social enough to know who is doing what and having the odd quick chat about it. It's not just for ?KOM sniping you know!
Well to be honest I post when I ride on FB (sometimes...) just to give sh*t to my friends who stayed at home or had something else to do.. just a revenge for all the times I'm stuck at home or at work and my FB newsfeed is full of people talking about the glorious days of biking or skiing I just missed.
+ trail conditions update...
+ sharing the stoke to my close friends so hopefully next time they'll come with me !
As this is my opinion I understand people may not agree with me, which is fine!
That's part of what makes us especially weird. We're social animals. It's a wolf's version of a pack howl. We want to share our joy (or stoke or sadness or rage) with the people around us. These days, it happens online.
I do hate how some idiots constantly use it to complain about how depressed they are, or they just keep sharing motivational quotes over and over.
Most of my Facebook time is on the 'throne'. That's when I catch up on cool car postings from other pages, MMA news, and random world news. If it weren't for Facebook, I'd probably be completely out of touch with what's going on around me in the world of basically everything.
You can't seriously tell me that less than 10% percent of pinkbikers regularly use social media as a means to record/tell their exploits!
Usually I just post shit about how much I love bikes. Or how much I hate pollution. It's 50/50.
but most Facebook users want, Drama, Attention and posting selfies...
Why would you NOT post photos of an epic ride. A face full of mud. Your buddy crashing. Or that gorgeous view you stopped to take a break at??? You are not bragging, you are sharing your experiences with those around you.
These are positive things, things you enjoy and love doing. If you don't post these to Facebook, what will you post? What you ate for dinner?
I don't know about you, but I have well under 100 friends on Facebook. If I don't see someone on a monthly basis, or they are family... I don't need to know what you are doing. So those baby photos, food shots, and ride experiences that show up in my feed - are completely relevant!
If you are bitching about the things you see on Facebook, and wondering why you post photos.... Maybe it's time for you to clean up your friends list, or take a break from it. Or you could cheer the f*ck up - cause you kind of sound like a downer.
Jacob [discussing "the butterfly effect"]: "... like, you step on a bug, and the f***in' Internet's never invented."
Lou: "Oh, then you have to talk to girls with your mouth.
:P
I don't even upload my satellite tracks from my phone.
The less I think of myself, the more selfless I become.
Bro.