UNNO may be a new name, but it showcases an accumulation of knowledge and brain power from one of the most seasoned bike designers in the business.

Cesar Rojo, and his design studio, "Cero," is the man and machine behind Unno bikes. Never 'eard of 'im? Rojo was teammates with a young Greg Minnaar and Mick Hannah, back in the glory Global Racing era. The Spanish junior champion was picked up by Martin Whitely's former mega-team, where he managed a career-best, sixth place at a muddy Les Gets World Cup. That was way back in 2002, before the young man became burnt-out with full-time racing and studying side by side. Cesar left racing at the age of 21 to concentrate on his masters degree in industrial design.

Since then, Rojo has been a key player, developing motorcycles for KTM, Superbike teams. and the short-lived JotaGas trials motorcycle. Mondraker's Forward Geometry theory was conjured by Cesar, and some of the finest shapes and structures to come out of Alicante, including the stunning Foxy, Dune and Summum, which recently made history in Val di Sole. Cero is also the brains behind other brand's bikes - most, under strict disclosure restrictions by manufacturers who represent their bikes to as their own creations.

Powered by minds like Rojo's the Catalan's are becoming a well-respected driving force in the industry, and secrecy is turning into pride. Expect the next big thing in downhill to appear before Christmas, with "Designed by Cero" proudly stickered onto the chassis.


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What is Unno?

Unno is a five-bike lineup, from a cross-country racer, to a downhill juggernaut. The range includes two XC bikes, a hardtail and a 100mm full-suspension model: a 130mm-travel, 29"-wheel trail bike; a 160mm-travel, 27.5"-wheel enduro bike; and a 200mm-travel downhiller. Every frame is created from premium carbon fiber, designed, molded, laid up and baked to perfection in downtown Barcelona. Destruction and fatigue testing is done downstairs in Cero's workshop, and test riding is straight out of the door and up into the hills behind the city. All that adds up to some of the best frames on the market, combined with one of the highest price tags: ranging from €4000 for the hardtail, €5000 for the full suspension frames, and up to €5500 for the downhill bike.


Geometry and Sizing

Unno's bikes are built around principles that should be prevalent across the industry but often aren't. Frames are designed to create a feel that is consistent across every bike in their range. Medium sizes were first to come off the press, with a reach number at 455mm using a 30mm stem. The XC frame is slightly shorter, but uses a longer stem to maintain a similar reach.

Geometry is configured to progress between bikes, low to high. The XC bikes start with the steepest head angle and shortest chainstay - angles that should give the best handling on predominantly flat terrain, with the short chainstay giving maximum power transfer and direct grip. As the plane of trail turns downwards, head angles slacken for steering and balance, seat angles steepen for sharper climbs and to offset suspension sag. Chainstays grow longer for stability, with an understanding that there is less call for pedaling grip from due to chunkier tire choices.

Overall, the geometry is somewhere in the range of Mondraker's radical "Forward Geometry," the Mojo GeoMetron, and Pole Bicycle's mega radical, double forward geometry.

Initial plans are to construct 25 frames of each model, all in the most popular medium size. Off the back of these sales, Unno are hoping to up production and add a large frame option, which will feature a big, 490mm reach.


European Carbon Construction

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This software calculates the most economic way to cut the hundreds of different shapes from one large sheet of carbon pre-preg.

Cero already had some of the machinery in-house for crafting these beauties. Two of CNC millers in the workshop used for prototyping motorcycle parts, now spend some of their time crafting huge chunks of billet into frame molds. If you think mountain bikes are expensive, and are chomping at the bit to comment "I could buy an MX bike for the same price as this frame," consider this: an unnamed, competition motocross brake caliper had just popped out of the machine when I arrived. Retail price will be €12000, for the caliper only. Obviously, not the same brakes you get on a production motocross bike, but it's nice to know that when buying an Unno, you access the same level of technology those guys race on.


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This machine accurately cuts and numbers every layer of fiber.


Mold machines, check. Design experts in-house that already work with carbon frame manufacturers, check. All that was left to complete this jigsaw was some polystyrene internal molds (mandrels), and a carbon fiber cutter. The rest of the manufacturing time is just laborious, time-consuming placement of carbon shapes into the molds followed by a couple of hours in the oven.

Cesar stressed that the Spanish production towel had been on the verge being flung, many times in favor of the easier option of Asian production. But, he couldn't do it. Not fully content with the ethics and accuracy of the Far East, he decided to keep on going in his home country. Sure, he could have saved money, made the end product cheaper, and had frames on sale for at least two years by now, but that's not always the way to do things. In-house manufacturing means they can have complete control over every step of the process, as well as much shorter lead times for prototyping, for trying new ideas and generally having the freedom to act like men in a shed, making stuff they think is cool.


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Fresh frame time. I can only hope they smell like cookies after baking.


The most important factor for Unno in the carbon lay-up is the combination of comfort against strength. Cesar suggested that most carbon frames are too stiff in the wrong directions because manufacturers don't have the knowledge, or above all, the time to experiment with multiple layups and structures.

Styling is also consistent through the range. Unno wanted the frames to look sleek and fast from the side, but give an empowering feel when you're on the bike. Looking down on the frame, the tubes look broad and robust. All frames share a similarly shaped, slim top tube, rear brake mounts that nestle inside the chainstays, and internal hose and cable routing. Production bikes also feature internal carbon tubes for simplified component installation.

Unno has also built test rigs to do their own destruction and CEN testing. All of the sample frames have exceeded the CEN safety standards by over 50%.

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Tubes inside the tubes, carry the housing and hoses directly to and from the exit and entry ports. No more prodding around willy-nilly for hours.


Suspension


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Drooooollllllllll......


In the same vain as the geometry and sizing, the suspension also works its way up in terms of progression and length of travel. Towards the downhill end of the spectrum, more progression is found as the travel increases. All bikes follow a similar leverage theme, initially progressive with small bump sensitivity towards the sag point, which then continues in a more linear fashion on the way to bottom out. The final part of the stroke is regressive to work with air shocks and their inherent end stroke ramp up. Dual link designs are found on all bikes with inline yokes to drive the shocks, with the exception of the downhill bike that has the shock eyelet nestled in between the link and swingarm for an increased stiffness in the design.



The Bikes - 29" Cross Country

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So what do we have here? Possibly the lightest carbon frame on the market, it hits the scales at an actual 790 grams for a medium. Remember that the medium=size frame with its 440mm reach compares to other brand's large or XL-sized frames in the same category. The slacker, 67º head angle is a mind blowing slant for many XC riders. The 440mm reach is designed to work with a 50 to 60mm stem.

A miniature 418mm chainstay houses a 29" wheel with plenty of tire clearance. The wide BB92 bottom bracket shell made things easier to squeeze the wheel and provide adequate clearance in that awkward area. A low, 85mm-stack head tube helps to keep weight low and over the front wheel on climbs.

Not shown in this article is the 100mm-travel cross-country, full suspension frame, which will share the geometry of the hardtail.

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All Unno's feature integrated dropout-hangars that keep things looking clean.

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7.66kgs. Getting close to the UCI's minimum weight limit for road bikes. Does the same rule apply for XC racing?
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The bottom bracket/chainstay junction is a beauty.


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I sneezed 790 grams last Tuesday...



The Bikes - 29" Trail Bike

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The 29" wheeled trail bike has 130mm of travel, and is designed around a 140mm fork. Reach is 455mm, aiming to be ridden with a 30mm stem. The head angle is on the slack side for a wagon wheeler, at 65.5º, and the seat angle is steep, at 75º. This trail bike will also have two link options to lower the bottom bracket by another 7mm, which will slacken the head angle by nearly one degree. Chainstays are in the middle of the road, but still short for a 29er, at 430mm.


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The Bikes - 160mm Enduro

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Dropping €5000 bucks on an all-rounder is going to be tough, but how would you choose between the above 29er, and this 160mm enduro racer? 65º up front, 75º between your legs with 435mm wheelie bars out back. Again, the reach is 455mm aimed to be used with a 30mm stem.


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Those top tubes and raw carbon get me every time.
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The neatly nestled brake mounts are similar on all bikes, along with the Allen-wrench-driven thru-axles.



The Bikes - Downhill

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A stunning flagship. Ride it, or hang it up on the wall? Or just ride around the streets pretending you're piloting a spaceship?

This is the actual bike that Cesar guided to a Master's World Championship gold medal last year, so has already gained heritage. 200mm of travel driven through 440mm chainstays. A now widely adopted, 63.5º head angle and another 455m reach. Overall wheelbase comes in at a stable 1243mm.

The suspension design of the downhill bike is slightly different to the other models. The lower shock mount connects directly to the swingarm, and runs on bearing instead of bushings for increased sensitivity.


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The cable routing which will be featured the production bike is a classic "why didn't we think of that?" Instead of entering the frame on either side of the head tube, the port is on the top tube. This means housing can pass closely under the top crown of the fork and into the frame, avoiding the need to cut and shape number boards at every event.


Cerro Unno


Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesIn the flesh, Unno bikes are nothing but stunning. I literally want all of them in my garage, NOW. The attention to detail, design and form is taking these bikes up a notch, with a matching price tag. Nobody who is after good value will be a potential buyer, but those craving niche, boutique, and performance will be first in the queue.
- Paul Aston


Cerro Unno





238 Comments

  • + 301
 Pronounced 'you-'know, cause you know you can't afford it
  • + 202
 my bank account is saying "uhh, no"
  • - 16
flag bluumax (Nov 22, 2016 at 4:21) (Below Threshold)
 @MmmBones: because they cost an UnHo...ly amount of money?
  • - 24
flag macross87 (Nov 22, 2016 at 5:51) (Below Threshold)
 Ju-know Bikes?
  • + 22
 @MmmBones: but my body is sayin'.... lets go
  • + 117
 @MmmBones And unno if you buy one you'll have Cero left in your bank account.
  • - 15
flag CarlMega (Nov 22, 2016 at 9:25) (Below Threshold)
 Isn't this where really bad pizza comes from?
  • - 15
flag Boardlife69 (Nov 22, 2016 at 12:52) (Below Threshold)
 I dunno, I earn a pretty good salary.
  • - 1
 Like, I cant afford this UNNO! Like that?
  • - 1
 I gotta come up with a better story why I bought new bike, UNNO?
  • + 12
 Calls secret Swiss bank account, "Yes, well yes sir, yes, we do understand, and your 5$ is VERY well and secure with us!"
  • - 5
flag chaosoner (Nov 22, 2016 at 16:06) (Below Threshold)
 seems you can put anything in Enves and it will look good
  • + 86
 Tubes inside the tubes = well known "TITS" standard invented by transition bikes
  • + 4
 Actually not true... the first bikes that come to mind are Kona's Process line, they had tubes inside the frame before transition was doing it... I'm sure others were already doing this as well just no one felt the need to advertise it lol.
  • + 21
 As far as we know those are glued nylon tubes, Santa Cruz on the nomad was the first one to do it and still not sure if the only one. We also do it on the swing arm Smile
  • + 16
 Let's not forget their proprietary COCK-n-BALLS standard either. Though I prefer TITS by a very large margin.
  • + 10
 Ive been putting tubes inside tubes for about 12 years now ... ????
  • + 25
 @rideunno: fake T.I.T.S.?
  • + 33
 @FireBallDHR: Your hand does not count as a tube
  • + 1
 @MmmBones They 100% are grabbing the Tranny TITS!
  • + 2
 @2bigwheels: But what is innovation worth without cool name to sell it Big Grin
  • + 1
 @2bigwheels: I know my Troy has them built in to the frame.
  • + 1
 @rideunno: You're right! They use tubes that are glued... been in the industry long enough to think your bike is a masterpiece! Have some ideas if we could ever talk.
  • + 82
 That moment when your trail bike weighs more than a DH bike.
  • - 35
flag headshot (Nov 22, 2016 at 3:01) (Below Threshold)
 Luckily not for me - 160mm travel, far less carbon, DH pedals and I am still 1kg to the good.
  • + 20
 You kidding me? For my first four years of mountain biking, I rode an 80mm 26" hardtail that weighed more than that thing.
  • + 1
 You can have the lightest bike..... If you do not have the legs, it will not make you fastest
  • + 37
 The trail bike just shot up to the top of my wishlist. they should just sell these bikes unpainted, not only will it save them some cash but the raw carbon looks way better.
  • + 12
 just add the brand name, at downtube, either look flashy, or stealhy.. and keep the rest RAW.. #italianhandgestureofperfect just like BASTION bike (Roadie Version) Smile
  • + 35
 We will go raw with very small Unno logo on it, but also we wil give some personalized paint
  • + 1
 @rideunno: Even a colored clear coat!?
  • + 3
 @rideunno: im more interested if you sell those intergrated carbon aero MTB Stem-Handlebar seperately.. i'll buying those 100%!~ looks so sexy. even if it cost 300$.
  • + 13
 "What paint are we gonna use Norbs?"
"No paint. We're going RAW"
  • + 31
 So making a premium carbon frame in a western economy costs about 5000 euros.
I can see the future now. China will rule the world in ten years and Paul will have to write his reviews in Mandarin. Hey Paul, you speak Mandarin?
  • + 8
 PB already started posting selected articles in Chinese every now and then...
  • + 6
 Cervelo did a limited edition road frame 5 or so years back. The Chinese version cost $5000 USD the one made in California cost $10,000 double the price. They explained it was all EPA clean up and waste costs that made such a drastic difference. Of course the US workers make more per hour but clean up fees made up the bulk price difference.
  • + 4
 @downhillnews: They explained it was all EPA clean up and waste costs that made such a drastic difference. Of course the US workers make more per hour but clean up fees made up the bulk price difference.

Lol nahh. They never said that.
  • + 4
 @downhillnews: Hmm, makes ya think, I'm pretty glad none of my bikes have any carbon now.
  • + 1
 @downhillnews: true to mfg in usa...mex could be the new china if they got theryre crap together...no envrio laws, wage laws, unions...and way closer and not enemy.
And guess what, folks would flock there for work.
  • + 10
 @mnorris122: Yeah, it makes you think "how gullible are some people?"

The R5CA and RCA cost so much because it's a much more precise layup than the standard R5, it's super limited production, because the people who make it are also design engineers being paid US engineer's wages, not Chinese factory workers being paid Chinese labourer wages, because it's the R&D spearhead, and because it's the Halo, show-off frame that Cervelo make, and Halo frames have to cost loads more otherwise what's the point?

The EPA never made it cost that much, and Cervelo never said they did. That's just politically motivated lies.
  • + 1
 @wingguy: That is what The Cervelo REP here explained to us the day I shot the first one in the USA.

We do have to pay insurance, higher pay probably $20-30HR versus who knows. But hazardous disposal fees for a tiny company making what 25 frames I can see being pricey. The government adding 20% to production cost on a frame is a fair amount. Not that frame costing Cervelo more than $1000 to make is something that would suprise me and no I am not talking molds and engineering just the actual product.
  • + 6
 @downhillnews: Haha dude you're talking such bullshit. Cervelo didn't make 25 R5CA or RCA frames - they make more than 200 a year. The shop I work in alone has dealt with about 20 of them since the intial launch 6 years ago.

Claiming the cost comes because of the EPA is hilarious.
  • + 1
 @wingguy: You right it was 300 total sorry road bikes are crazy just telling you what the Cervelo rep's explanation was. I laughed when he brought it in and said it was $10K MSRP. I pointed to my truck in the parking lot and said the 2 450 MX bikes back there cost about that much. So maybe he was annoyed at us.....out of those 25 how many had BB's crack?
  • + 3
 @downhillnews: Yeah it's still way more than 300 total. They're still making the second generation of Project California frames and they still cost that much. And again, I'm telling you that Cervelo rep's explanation was bullshit. It's not EPA costs. There are other much smaller companies that make carbon frames in the USA. They're not cheap, but they don't cost any more than Cervelo's top lne made in Asia production models.

And BB cracks... none. Cervelo claim they never had a warranty failure on a CA frame. We had a top tube cracked from hitting a rock on a 2nd gen RCA and a seatstay cracked after the owner ran too large tyres and rubbed away the carbon on the inside of it on a 1st gen R5Ca.
  • + 0
 Yeah. Cervelo! Road bikes! Go Lance! ...wait, wrong article? Smooches!
  • + 0
 @Benito-Camelas In 10 year bikes will all be made in the country you buy them. Search for re-shoring and lights-off factory. huge trend. Smile
  • + 1
 Or some flu will come along and there will be 2 billion less workers making 2 dollars a day
  • + 1
 having visited China and working in manufacturing, I think your not far wrong, hence i'm learning Mandarin
  • + 20
 ...Now all I need to do is win a Euromillions jackpot...
  • + 2
 Just do a Brenter
  • + 2
 After Brexit and the plunging pound we might just need a million pounds to buy one of these!
  • + 17
 we've been all waiting for some next level shit and here it is. We can't afford it but someone finally bumped the quota...I hope these guys kill it and shake up the new standard but same shit each year, industry.
  • + 7
 Thanks, we will keep pushing hard!
  • + 12
 if these bikes were made in England they'd be call 'DUNNO' instead.
ygm fam.

(I dont even know if English people will understand that joke)
  • + 7
 Only if they were made in Birmingham...
  • + 4
 @paulaston: Nahh, the term 'Dunno' is the one all the Grime MCs and roadmen use down south Wink
  • - 7
flag WAKIdesigns (Nov 22, 2016 at 6:56) (Below Threshold)
 @paulaston - silence!!! you have robot bike co
  • + 2
 Ya man. Ya dun know.jah feel fam.
  • + 3
 Cha. Ya get me fam?

Ignant yoots duneven say wagwan, tsch
  • + 3
 Man is vexd right now ygm blud. Don't make man go bammy and BAXX man in the face tings
  • + 0
 Table-klaat
  • + 12
 to say the least, they look elegant.
  • + 9
 Wow...very nice work Cesar!
  • + 1
 Thanks Angello!
  • + 5
 Sweet Jesus these are some of the most beautiful bikes I have ever seen. The hardtail looks so sleek and fast. I love the top tube and seat stay design around the enduro build also. I'll have to start buying lotto tickets to keep my dream of owning one alive.
  • + 4
 "Destruction and fatigue testing is done downstairs in Cero's workshop, and test riding is straight out of the door and up into the hills behind the city. All that adds up to some of the best frames on the market..." - Sorry, I didn't get the connection here. If I make a workshop "downstairs" and do the riding "out of the door and up into the hills" does that make me one of the best frame makers in the market? What? Sorry, again. But the bikes look cool!
  • + 1
 I guess most other brands test their bikes on machines...
  • + 18
 @TomSmoke: or the public ????
  • + 3
 @TomSmoke: They also do the test on machines, but after that they have nice test place in real environment. That's conclusion.
  • + 5
 @TomSmoke: that makes sense. Obviously I am being sarcastic. It's just that I didn't find the argument very convincing at first - and I am still struggling. Where does, say, Trek or Santa Cruz or whatever company test their bikes and they're also considered one of the best frames in the market? What I am trying to point out is that of course you will test a bike up into a hill but that's not a guarantee that you make one of the best frames. Unno frames look awesome and I am sure that they ride amazingly. It was the statement I found a bit strange or I am having a bad day.
  • + 3
 @TomSmoke @liquidas: every company test their bikes on machines and in real environment in order to validate them...
  • + 5
 @starpak: I think they were trying to emphasise the point that the design is done upstairs, manufacture and lab testing downstairs and real-world testing just outside of the shop door.

I imagine larger brands are much more fragmented and see design in one place (or country), manufacture in another and testing at again a different site or under riders in different areas.

This isn't to say that a fantastic product cannot come out of other approaches but the almost entirely 'in house' approach here does allow designers to easily speak to engineers, engineers to test riders and so on.

I love the look of these and have followed Cesar's development of bikes into Cero with interest as he seems to be one of the few willing to follow his own path as can been seen with previous Mondraker design and now the uno range.
  • + 1
 @TomSmoke: Cero is a machine!
  • + 8
 Nice.. these and Antidote are making the sexist bikes around
  • + 15
 Yes Unno, Anti and Robot are the P1, 918 and LaFerrari of bike world.
  • - 16
flag Earthmotherfu (Nov 22, 2016 at 7:27) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: yeti sb6c wanks all over them..sniff my finger.
  • - 7
flag fartymarty (Nov 22, 2016 at 7:58) (Below Threshold)
 @Earthmotherfu: carbon smarbon... give me METAL anyday.
  • + 3
 @fartymarty: I love all sorts of frame materials as long as they look what they are. I like raw looks. If it is metal, let it be silver. Titanium gives me boners. If it's carbon let it look like UNNO or Anti, ooooor in terms of form, if it's carbon then let it look super freeform like Yeti or Evil (or Spec SWorks Demo). But this Santa Cruz or Intense stuff? May as well be Canyon for these looks. I will never buy such frame in carbon (again) for so much money. Mediocrity with past results and price tag dictated fanbase.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: fish caught... PS I can't wait for 3D print Ti frames. Think how strong bones are for their weight. Imagine the same structure in Ti....
  • + 7
 @WAKIdesigns: @WAKIdesigns: I agree. Now if only we could get Peaty, Warner and Claudio to do a review of the Unno, Anti and Robot the way Clarkson, Hammond and May just did one of the P1, 918 and LaFerrari on the Grand Tour, life would be complete Big Grin
  • + 6
 @WAKIdesigns: something's are meant to be covered, Stilton,man holes,bellends,carbon frames,kardashians huge crack and Kanye wests head..with a bin bag preferablySmile
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: someone has been watching new topgear
  • - 3
 @kabaroo: i haven't seen any of the latest episodes but to me Chris Harris on cars with Tiff and Mariano driving P1, La Ferrari and 918 was the best car related piece of motion picture ever produced, and by a huge margin. To me it was a pure celebration of life, dreams coming true. I think there were very few moments in the history of the whole universe when 3 friends were having so much fun. It's been absolutely great. Just before Harris got on Top Gear I actually wanted to contact him and offer him bringing Antidote carbon Jack to Wales so that he could test ride it, even without saying a single thing in any media afterwards. He rides an Orange Five. But now he became a big shot so he may not have time for such things and it may be much harder to contact him.
  • + 7
 @WAKIdesigns: are we the P1? Big Grin
  • + 1
 @rideunno: more Volvo 240f Frown
  • + 6
 @rideunno: With carbon fiber that beautiful, I'd say you're more Koenigsegg Wink
  • + 0
 @rideunno: I would not dare to deny you the right to call your bike an MTB equivalent of that. I see my Antidote as Koenigsegg Agera RS. Robot bike Co seems like a new release ltd edition McLaren F1 with all the electric bells and whistles Big Grin

@lobohusky - I reserve the right to call Anti the Koenigsegg! I live 1.5h drive from the factory! and my parents live 1h drive from Antidotes HQ - How dare you... Big Grin
  • + 15
 @WAKIdesigns: well, we can say that one of the guys in charge of the carbon department of Koenigsegg has been helping us Wink
  • + 2
 @Earthmotherfu: not the R?
  • + 5
 @rideunno: damn it...
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 @WAKIdesigns: Haha, okay okay, fine. Still, when I think of carbon fiber supercars, I think of the Koenigsegg Agera R and the Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster. And now with bikes, I will also think of Unno Smile
  • + 7
 Those are the nicest bikes I have seen in a long time. Probably since..........ever.
  • + 7
 I have Unno dollar to my name right now
  • + 5
 The lighweight and the designs are awesome, but the carbon still feels scary to me (and the prize)... One good crash and your superframe is a goner.
  • + 3
 I'll probably get negative repped, but I think they Fugly. The triangle at the top of the seat tube looks clumbsy and the raw carbon look is so 10 years ago. Money aside, not my cup of tea.
  • - 1
 Agreed, they look light and are light, but not the prettiest. Lets see if the production models get a lick of paint...
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 I was going to say the same thing about that seatpost junction. Very ugly.
  • + 4
 look a carbon process 153 and 111 ish . see kona whats the problem hop to it
  • + 1
 Lots of drooling by the editor and comments. But is it any better? Yeah, it's made in-house and looks pretty, but does it perform different? I don't seem more drawn to it over many other brands (YT, GG, etc) even if it was price competitive with them. Maybe some refinements in frame layup, but is that it? $5k for a frame to get some slightly different flex characteristics. Looks good, and I'm sure it rides good, but for the price and hype I was hoping for some actual innovation.
  • + 3
 How much impact resitance is there? ;-)
You would not want it to faul because of every little tree or tiny stone it hits ;-) no?
  • + 4
 Didn't see a tandem bike or unicycle in the article, seems like they misunderstand the mountain biking community.
  • + 6
 Nice downhill bike Wink
  • + 3
 so much bike pron ! really liking the look of the enduro and down hill frames salute:
  • + 1
 I wonder if the break cables could be run through the handlebar, out between the bottom of the stem, and then through the top tube.... or Have the break levers built into the handlebar with cables running though them...
  • + 4
 "Too small, shame. Could be great" ~ S.Jones, Dirt Magazine Wink
  • + 8
 It was more like "This comes from a correctly sized bar, stem plus headtube length (85mm) giving this bike arguably one of the best ride positions I’ve ever experienced on a bike this travel. And it’s from here that everything follows, for together with the aggressive 65.5 head angle and low bottom bracket it’s a bike that drives hard and fast on the descents – perfect poise, perfect rider position." S. Jones Smile
  • + 4
 @rideunno: haha well played. The irony of the comment hopefully wasn't lost on you guys. He did indeed love the bike- first time in a while I've seen that from Mr Jones. Congrats on what are some of the nicest bicycles out there Unno, they do look jaw dropping.
  • + 4
 Always been a big fan of Cesar Rojo. Sexy stuff!
  • + 1
 Thanks!
  • + 4
 What is that handlebar stem combo!?
  • + 0
 Exactly! Can we get a closeup on the bars from the hero image, @paulaston ?
  • + 3
 @rideunno do you make these yourselves? Will they be for sale??
  • + 5
 please never paint them!
  • + 4
 We will give RAW options for sure, we love the carbon looks!
  • + 1
 Whats all this obsession with weight? Cut down weight to a sensible amount and then concentrate on suspension characteristics, stiffness and also not cracking ever would be a decent attribute
  • + 3
 Simply stunning. Basically what I day dream about all the time. If I was rich i would be in the waiting list.
  • + 1
 Stuff it, I'm selling the car, and riding the DH to work...
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 Beautiful looking bikes but the 67 degree HT angel on the hard tail is way too much for a XC rig. I think 69 is the sweet spot.
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 Why? I moved to a bike with 66.5 head angle and most of my riding is XCish, can't say it hurt climbing performance.
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 @justwan-naride: I do a lot of XC racing and prefer the sharper steering that comes from a steeper HT angle. Specially on the tight twisty stuff I tend to race.
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flag jclnv (Nov 22, 2016 at 10:45) (Below Threshold)
 @mostlyharmless: Learn how to ride.
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 @jclnv: Definitely ride better then you but I'll stick with my steep HT.
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 You definetely need to ride one... And you will see that you can turn so much better with 67º than 69º. You will feel the biggest difference the slower you go, the slacker is way more easy to keep the bike in a straight line going up at 4 to 6km/h, going down it is a no brainer, but, we would love that you try one, as I am 100% that you will be convinced Smile
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 @rideunno: If I could ever get my hands on one I certainly would, it's a sick looking bike, my current ride has an RS1 and I am sure it moves with that fork. Keep up the good work!
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 @mostlyharmless: ok, not a racer here , but I do have lots of super tight n twisty trails close to home. Wheelbase is more crucial than HA for that kind of agility, but in practice I found I just have to
adjust my technique and
approach with the longer bike.
Really don't miss the steep head angle, they don't make sense for off road riding for me now. That said, 29ers can feel pretty balanced at around 68 degrees.
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 @justwan-naride: I would definitely have to give it a shot. Not against it, just never rode a bike that slack before. I was surprised when Scott went with 69 on their new XC race bikes so maybe that's what everyone will be doing.
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 Hopefully they took that Float X2 off that DH rig....otherwise its just gonna be a melted pile of plastic real quick.
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 Does anybody know if you can buy these integrated bar and stem combinations somewhere or if dunno bikes will sell these separately? Looks dope! Want one!
  • + 1
 It's Unno, you know?
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 Absolutely stunning bikes! If I had the money I don't know how I would choose which one.
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 Did anyone notice the last pic in the series of the toptube on the dh model looks kinda different from the rest?
  • + 3
 @Velib Unreal beauty here
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 When it comes to building with Carbon, antidote and Unno are freaking amazing.
  • + 2
 What to buy when all your road frames are Alchemy and you're wanting a new mountain bike
  • + 2
 29er trail bike front triangle really looks like a refined carbon version of a process! nevertheless, they look amazing
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 1ST CLASS BIKE PORN.
  • + 1
 The integration of stem and handlebar is amazing. Why i never heard this before in enduro / dh? Do you know other brands that issued integrated stem and handlebar like this?
  • + 1
 @rideunno I would like to know what stem that is on the DH bike. I take it that it's a one-off in house production? That thing is sexy and I want it.
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 That XC hardtail is the stuff of dreams - race light, trail capable. It must be great to ride.

However, I don't like the bare carbon weave. I'll never be able to afford one, but if I ever did, I would have mine painted. A matte finish paintjob would accentuate the forms of the frames and match the minimalistic style.

Orange or purple?
  • + 3
 sexy carbon!!!!
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 Wouldn't have those integrated bar stem combos but still pretty sweet lookin
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 The cross bar/top tube looks thin in the wrong direction.
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 If I'm paying that kind of money for a DH bike I don't expect to be cable tying the cables to the frame
  • + 0
 they do that because they cant fit the cables inside the frame, look how thin that top tube is?!
  • + 1
 @wesfife155: Bottom tube looks like it has ample room
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 @Garpur44: suppose, wouldn't trust that top tube for strength though
  • + 2
 Read the bottom of the article...
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 @Sponger: yes but the photo shows it with external cable routing
  • + 5
 This was a very early prototype August 2015 that we race at master world champs and at that point we didn't had the internal cabling sorted, but we wanted to keep riding the same frame to make sure can get some abuse...
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 So how do they ride?? They look amazing that's for sure.
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 That co-molded bar stem molded combo...
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 Wonder why he didn't run with the whole 10mm stem idea he came up with for Mondraker? Especially given the one piece bar/stem combo. Lovely machines.
  • + 3
 My guess is that either the 30mm worked better after all, or 10mm was too intimidating for most people.
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 Zero steering stability. Somebody had to try it and I'm glad they did but it didn't work.
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 Even Mondraker moved back to 30mm stems.
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 @ThomDawson: You used one? I've got one and think it's great. Didn't work on the summum, felt like it needed a steering damper.
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flag bonkywonky (Nov 22, 2016 at 7:57) (Below Threshold)
 Because it simply doesn't work. And there's no way I'd pay 5000 quid for a frame made by someone who came up with this bs.
  • + 5
 Well, that was pretty extreme and was something to try and mondraker took it to production, we've been refining since then and for us this is the perfect balance Smile
  • + 2
 Other manufacturers.....Canyon Sender? Just a thought
  • + 2
 List his creations here that other mfgs pay to say(lie) they designed 'em:
  • + 2
 that is sex appeal in a bicycle. that one piece bar stem is beautiful.
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 UNNO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SELL A KIDNEY, OR MY SOUL!!!
  • + 2
 We hope you don't need to do that, and if you do make sure to keep the good one for you Smile
  • + 1
 @rideunno: Do you wanna send me a free one here in Australia? I'll give it a good rap to everyone...
Smile
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 What is the integrated bar and stem they are running on the 29er and the Enduro bike, anyone know?
  • + 1
 "UUUNGHHHHHHHAUAUUEEEIEAAAAAAAAAH"........sry.
  • + 1
 Why not call this interview an Uno on Unno?
  • - 3
 did anyone paid attention on DH bike`s crank setup against rear end? I wonder if they rotate full circle... Big Grin

Bike looks ok, even nice I`d say.

But please go test it for couple seasons, modify, then release in a production.
  • + 11
 Well, we have tested for a couple of seasons, we even won the Master world championships 2015 on that exact bike you say the cranks don't turn (did you put your glasses this morning, hehehe :p), jokes aside, here you have a video riding the bike that cannot pedal.

www.facebook.com/cesarrojo/videos/vb.632446897/10152970925141898/?type=2&theater
  • + 1
 @rideunno espectaculaaaaars!!! Molta sort amb el projecte.
  • + 1
 Gracies!
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 Just worried about my footprint.....
  • + 2
 Geometry looks dialed
  • + 1
 any chance would you take 1500$? and I pick up?
  • + 1
 Where is the 100mm full-suspension ??? Frown
  • + 2
 We are refining the layup, so was not built, but we have some pics in our facebook. We should post soon about it Smile
  • + 1
 This DH rig needs a huge Shiver !
  • + 1
 And 24' Nokians!
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 Looks good....
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 @rideunno bona feina
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 Gracies!
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 beautiful bikes
  • + 2
 Sorry... I just came.
  • + 1
 I feel sorry for your nose
  • + 1
 Unno bikes are drop dead sexy Drool
  • + 2
 That hardtail is filthy.
  • - 1
 So its going to have envy rims but do I use i9 or king hubs?

Neither I'm poor and cant afford to charge the battery on a ebike
  • + 1
 Still won't make you any faster. sure is pretty though.
  • + 1
 Could I see what the mx caliper looks like?
  • + 1
 I'll buy carbon when it can be recycled
  • + 1
 They look ok, more engineered than designed, if you get mi.
  • + 1
 all those fancy words and a VF5?
  • + 1
 DMG suits it more...
  • + 4
 Well, we have a Hermle C400 5 axis (you can see some pics in our facebook of it), this VF5 we use it to make molds and very large parts due to huge table, still tolerance is really good, but for links and more precise parts we do it in the 5 axis so the complete part gets milled in one step.
  • + 1
 @atrokz: We have a Hermle, way better than DMG Wink
  • + 1
 @rideunno: DEBATABLE! Wink Very cool though, that is a very nice machine, I'm teasing, I worked on VF machines for a decade, and currently use a VF2 for my own stuff. But after working on DMG, Mazak i700, Matsurra, Hitachi, etc, you get spoiled! Thanks for the banter though, the bikes look amazing, maybe one day you'll need consultation and I can get one Wink a man can dream.
  • - 3
 If I get the pictures right, you have to pay 5500€ to get a threaded BB on the DH frame, where pedal performance is not prio 1, for 4000-5000€ you are still f***ed up with pressfit BB where you would actually pedal as well... classy!
  • + 8
 Well you missed some point, all have Threaded BB except the Hardtail where is a bb92. And there is a reason for that and is to have a wider chainstay connection with the bb to be able to have a nice tire clearance for mud and short chain stays
  • + 1
 790 gram sneeze last week? You sneeze like a troll. Well done, sir!
  • + 1
 Great news, thanks.
  • + 1
 Them top tubes though.
  • + 0
 No bottles stays, im out.
  • + 1
 How does it ride
  • + 1
 Weakest bike of 2016
  • + 1
 looks like a session
  • + 0
 The Enduro bike looks like a Kona Process, How innovative could it be....
  • + 0
 So that's the price of an unreasonable inflated super ego in MTB?
  • - 1
 What are the prices in real money (USD)?
  • + 2
 Google it mate, and stop thinking with your mouth (so to speak).
  • - 1
 Ironically, isn't the USD the most overly inflated, non-backed currency in the world? Maybe second behind our solid GBP.
  • - 1
 Unno ey?... Looks like a Demo
  • + 7
 Is a prototype, not a demo bike
  • + 0
 This or a Robot?
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 Antidote is almost 40% cheaper and just as iconic - I.M.H.O. Unno and Robot are nonetheless amazing in every single way. Would be awesome if we could get all these three bikes into one place!
  • - 5
flag Earthmotherfu (Nov 22, 2016 at 7:31) (Below Threshold)
 Gay
  • - 3
 That's a lot of money to invest in a company that's just going to go bankrupt in a few years. Boutique carbon brands don't last.
  • + 12
 You might need to swallow that in a few years from now Wink
  • - 1
 Looks like a carbon Kona process to me
  • + 0
 Damn, I was about to say that. A really, flippin' expensive Process!
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 The trail bike weighs more than the downhill bike?!
  • + 6
 15.34 is more than 12.39 or 12.16...
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 OMG!!!!!!!And its got a threaded BB!!I want one now!!!
  • + 8
 Do they? It said BB92 in the article didnt it?
  • + 3
 @Kustomango: Only the BB92 on the hardtail all the other ones have thread BB. The hardtail has a PF93 because it was the only way to get much wider (73mm against 92mm), so that way we are able to have so much rear tire clearence and short CS Wink
  • + 1
 @Kustomango: and I didn't even read it.pictures show it
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 Looks like an atherton
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 Is it just me or is this the ugliest frame design i have ever seen!
  • + 2
 Oh come on, you have to at least seen one more ugly! Big Grin
  • + 1
 You must not have ridden bikes for very long if you think this is the ugliest.
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