Bike Check: The 95% Made in Europe Kavenz VHP16

Aug 20, 2021
by James Smurthwaite  

BIKE CHECK
The European Bike Project's
Project Magic Carpet
Photography by The European Bike Project

Alex from the European Bike Project runs one of our favourite Instagram accounts that showcases the very best of European bike manufacturing. From bikes bolted together from plywood all the way up to 3-D printed titanium, he has a knack for finding some of the most interesting projects on two wheels. Alongside sharing others' bikes, he also builds up his own. His last bike was a 100% European Crossworx Dash, which was entered in the European Bike Challenge, and now he has revealed a new build that he is calling Project Magic Carpet.

This build still leans heavily on European manufacturing, but Alex allowed himself 5% of the bike's final price for non-European components for performance-related reasons. Another key aim was to make this bike as comfortable as possible on his hands and body, so the spec list includes Rev suspension grips, Lilienthal rims that are filled with foam, Rimpact inserts and powerful brakes (to help reduce hand fatigue) - it's a bit like the Squishiest Mountain Bike thought experiment we ran but actually useable as a bike in the real world.

The full spec list is below:

Project Magic Carpet Full Spec
All parts made in Europe unless stated otherwise

Frame: Kavenz VHP16
Shock: Intend Hover
Gabel: Intend Edge
Stem: 77 Designz One Piece
Grips: Revgrips Pro
Handlebar: 77 Designz Carbon 35 (Made in Canada)
Spacers: Intend
Head Cap: Hope
Starnut: Intend Dandy
Grips: Revgrips (Made in the USA)
Headset upper: Intend Stiffmaster
Headset lower: Ride works
Shifter: Shimano XTR (Made in Japan)
Derailleur: Shimano XT (Made in Japan)
Pulley wheels: Garbaruk Oversized
Cassette: Garbaruk 12 speed, 10-52T
Cranks: Hope Evo
Chainring: Garbaruk
Chainring: Shimano XT
Pedals: Pembree D2A
Bottom Bracket: Ride Works
Seat clamp: Vecnum TooLoc
Dropper Post: Vecnum Nivo
Saddle: Selle Italia SLR
Rims: Copro Lilienthal /True Carbon
Hub front: DT Swiss 240/Hope Pro 4
Hub rear: DT Swiss 240/Erase MTB
Spokes: DT Swiss
Nipples: DT Swiss
Tire front: Hutchinson Toro/Griffus
Tire rear: Hutchinson Griffus/Toro/Kraken
Inserts: Rimpact
Sealant: Milkit
Valves: Milkit
Axle front: Intend
Axle rear: Kavenz
Brakes: Magura MT7
Discs: Brakestuff/Galfer
Bashguard: 77 Designz



bigquotesI wanted to build a very comfortable bike that is still pedal-friendly to create a ride that's like a magic carpet - hovering effortlessly above the ground. I know that these goals are basically the goal of every enduro bike, but I wanted to build one the 'TEBP way' - I wanted to know where the products come from, but didn't want to go for 100% Europe. 100% European proved to be a bit too restrictive when I built my last bike, so some North American and Japanese parts can be found on the bike.—European Bike Project

The Kavenz VHP16 comes from component brand 77 Designz. The frame boasts 160mm of rear travel and 29” wheels, with the option of running a 27.5” rear wheel by swapping out the lower shock mount.

As the German brand is best known for its chainguides, it's no surprise to see the fine details are well thought out on this high pivot frame.

There are also some 77Designz components attached to the frame, including this snazzy stem that's designed specifically to work with a handlebar made in Canada by WeAreOne.

The German heart of the bike continues to the suspension where Intend products are fitted front and rear. We're seeing the Hover / Edge combination on a lot of boutique custom builds at the moment.

The upside down legs offer some neat cable management opportunities and Alex says the 20mm axle keeps the steering precise.

In his hunt for performance, Alex compromised on his European ethos and fitted some Japanese-manufactured Shimano parts, but he has completed the rest of his drivetrain with components from British brand Hope and Poland's Garbaruk.

There's also a set of Rev Suspension Grips from the USA as hand comfort was a priority for Alex on this build

The final piece of non-Euro tech is the bell that comes from Spur Cycle out of Bend, Oregon.

Germany's Magura provided a set of custom MT7 brakes. Alex prioritized power in his brakes he could to increase his hand comfort.

The pedals are English and come from the workshop of Pembree. Alex was hoping his compliant build would stop him from getting bucked off his flats as much and these meaty pedals should definitely help him towards that goal.

Alex has two wheelsets that he swaps between on this bike. He says, "I'm using rather sturdy tires and thick discs on the Lilienthal wheelset and light tires and discs on the Truebc.de wheelset. The light wheelset saves approx. 400 grams over the other wheelset. Overall weight is 14.65kg for the heavy version and 14.25kg for the light version, and that's including pedals and sealant."

The heavier Lilenthal wheelset includes an injected foam that helps to deaden some of the vibrations from the trail.

Whatever wheelset he chooses, Alex fits French Hutchinson rubber.


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128 Comments

  • 67 4
 Sweet bike. Whenever I see that Intend shock I can't help but imagine my Stumpy Evo snapping that damper shaft clean off.
  • 7 0
 I did not manage snapping mine yet ;-)
  • 4 0
 At that diameter it must be a steel rod, right? Doubt that's snapping.
  • 12 100
flag drjonnywonderboy (Aug 20, 2021 at 12:38) (Below Threshold)
 All that Hope stuff isn't made in Europe.
  • 69 0
 @drjonnywonderboy: It is. just not in the EU.
  • 64 0
 @drjonnywonderboy: Europe and the European Union are not the same thing....
  • 15 4
 @drjonnywonderboy: UK is not in Europe anyway Wink
Sorry, could not resist..
  • 5 66
flag drjonnywonderboy (Aug 20, 2021 at 13:02) (Below Threshold)
 @DatCurryGuy: very true. The British made parts are not European. Is that better?
  • 19 0
 The United Kingdom is in North-Western Europe.
  • 89 16
 @drjonnywonderboy: No doubt you people voted for Brexit, you can't even grasp the difference between geography and politics lol. British parts are still European, wether you like it or not and despite trying to get rid of you for a 1000years you are still busting our balls so this won't change because se Brits thrown a tantrum called Brexit
  • 31 1
 @drjonnywonderboy: Anything made in the UK is made within Europe, how is the UK not part of Europe?
  • 8 1
 @subwaypanda: it doesn't feel like it is, which is enough to make it a reality nowadays. Economic decline tends to shake things up though. Give them time.
  • 26 3
 @Balgaroth: by ‘you people’ please remember the majority of the UK didn’t vote for Brexit, the majority of voters in the referendum did, by a tiny margin.

Hopefully Europe and the rest of the world can remember that there is more to the UK than the brexiteer, thank god. (I am British, born and live in England before some turd comments about the flag)

Remember it’s often those with the least to say that should the loudest - like @drjonnywonderboy who struggles with the basics.
  • 17 0
 @drjonnywonderboy: planning on forming a new continent too?
  • 7 6
 @Balgaroth: tantrums are definitely a French thing, farmer blockades, fishermen tantrums.
  • 7 8
 @justanotherusername: if the vast majority was firmly opposed to the concept of Brexit then there was a simple solution called protesting. I too lived abroad and wasn't always in agreement with what was said in France at the time but when you leave you country that's what happens. Tho I will give you that not allowing their citizens living in EU to vote was something very very low move since those citizens were in their own right as at the time they were both UK and EU citizens. Let's hope that Scotland and Northern Ireland pursue their initial position about Brexit and split from the English, a Celtic alliance with Ireland and EU would be a treat to witness.
  • 13 10
 @SimonVD: Britain has had the biggest tantrum in history with Brexit. It's stormed up to its bedroom and jumped out the window into what it thought was the pool, but is actually the compost heap (which it must now eat to survive). You can come back in once you've washed the bullshit out of your mouths.
  • 2 0
 @Olafmetal:
Yes it is steel
  • 6 0
 @Balgaroth: I didn’t say the ‘vast majority’ and there were protests, huge ones, but the vote had been cast and even as a person 100% against Brexit it was realistically untenable to overturn the vote or re-run it.

I sincerely hope Scotland does not split from us in England, but I am able to see why the strength of feeling is there.

My point still stands though, for many in the UK Brexit wasn’t what we wanted and Boris doesn’t represent many of our values - but that’s life.
  • 3 0
 @BenPea: Please, do a little more research into Brexit, the lies told, the money behind the project and the backing from media outlets all acting to further their interests, couple that with Brexit lightning a fire in the minds of elderly voters and you have a split country.

The irony is many voted Brexit to ‘kick it to the elites’ - it achieved almost the polar opposite as it was designed to do so. Turkeys voted for Christmas.

It’s done now though and we live with it, we won’t be ‘coming back’ anytime soon though.
  • 6 0
 @drjonnywonderboy: Afaik, although the brits moved out the eu, the island didn't, still at the same spot.
  • 3 0
 Glad you like the bike. As far as I remember, that shock shaft is sourced from a automotive company that specialises in making shafts and similar parts. The diameter is slightly larger than some coil shock shafts, so it should be allright.
  • 12 1
 @justanotherusername: Don't worry, I know Brexit like the back of my hand. I know millions in the UK abhor it, but the religious ferver it roused among those who fell for the propaganda and targeted FB lies was enough to tip the scales and turned it into an irrational shitshow, which is all it ever could be.
The rational outcome would be the gradual reparation of the ties that have been broken with the EU, but that's going to require the crooks who made it possible to turn against it and take those they conned on the necessary journey back to geopolitical reality and pragmatism. Or a whole new narrative led by a charismatic progressive with a highly compelling argument must be developed and get enough people on board. Kier Starmer ain't it apparently, but over time the majority will reach a critical mass that will swing things the right way. Hopefully the UK won't have to go back to how it was in the 70s (when I was born - in London) before the cogs of redemption start turning. That's if the tories haven't completely deconstructed the country's democratic and judicial structures to ensure they can't get voted out anytime soon.
Tldr, delusions of grandeur can f you up.
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: Those that were behind Brexit aren’t ever going to turn and move towards reversal - why would they undo personal success and go against something they orchestrated with no chance of penalty (opposite infect) to their own existence?

Realistically it will be generations until the question about re-entry will even be seriously asked (if ever), let alone a situation arising where it could be voted upon.

As I said, I was 100% remain but that’s irrelevant now, we left, it’s done and the best outcome for the situation needs to be sought by all.
  • 2 0
 @justanotherusername: have you not read the daily express lately we are doing just fine.
  • 6 2
 @Balgaroth: sadly the brits arent like the french ya know plenty of mouth about how they dont want this and are not going to take it only with a fall back of oh it was democracy we cant protest ,the french would have burned down parliament
  • 1 0
 @justanotherusername: why do you bave a canadian flag then
  • 6 0
 @drjonnywonderboy: your geography knowledge is shite, bud.
  • 3 4
 @justanotherusername: Sounds a lot like appeasement. Not very British. How bad do things need to get? A desperate trade deal with the Taliban? Brexit is the thin end of the wedge, there are no sane MPs who support it. It's all pride and cowardice now. Nobody likes admitting they have screwed up, especially when the fringe benefits of unchecked power (a £37 billion test and trace app is just the biggest red flag of all those thrown up by the vote leave government). And you want them to carry on with their merry project as if everything was fine? I think you accidentally drank sone of the kool aid.
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: not very british ,read up on Neville chamberlain we are great at appeasement , you might also want to study how the taliban came into being , and who their next deal will be with There are plenty of MPs who whole heartedly embraced brexit they have a lot to gain from it financially as do the ones who have shares in companies where their mates run companies contributing this fictional 37billion pound system to stop a pandemic , its in their interest to make money i mean its not like the ex PM didnt make money when he lit the touch paper and buggered off .
  • 5 3
 @Compositepro: Agreed, but we don't talk about Chamberlain. History began with Churchill, did you not get the memo? (not his genocidal period, mind, we don't talk about that either).
When I say "sane" MPs, I mean those who care about voters, which is kind of their job, rather than paving the way for more disaster capitalism (Rees Mogg's dad literally wrote the book on it).
But yes, the Taliban, Saudi, the Emirates, UK arms deals. No one is innocent in this sense, including the French, but plunging the economic fortunes of your own electorate into an epic hole through such deception is next level political cynicism. I think many are scared that if they reassess their view of Johnson and his clown car cabal, taking into account what anyone with eyes should be able to see, they will have to rethink so much of what they believe that the ideological ground they stand on will disappear from beneath their feet. Too much to lose by admitting that they facilitated the rise of the most incompetent, mean-spirited, dishonest and self-serving horror show government the UK has seen since it was ruled by syphilitic kings.
  • 1 2
 @BenPea: Macron.

all french arguments are moot because of this turd slurper
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: not sure if being serious or naive when you say mps who care about voters either way its slim pickings with little anyone can do about it the voting system is broken
  • 3 0
 @conoat: Insightful, you should write a book.

@Compositepro: the Vote Leave govt want you to think they're all on the take, left centre and right, or their client press do at any rate. Saying all MPs are crooked is music to their ears (like Trump's wholesale destruction of the original concept of truth - pick a truth and be a dick about it). And thanks to the broken system you mention they only have to fool some of the people some of the time. No politician is perfect, but some are more imperfect than others, don't lose sight of that or you'll give up completely.
  • 3 1
 @BenPea: appeasement? Are you taking about the people of the UK or it’s government?

Do you forget Johnson has a huge majority in parliament and will likely return the same next election?

What do you suggest - A portion of the country rise up to demand we re-join the EU despite Brexit causing very little impact to most people’s lives so far? - I mean you may see in the news everything is f*cked because of Brexit, but speak to the general public here, I don’t know of a single person meaningfully disadvantaged by Brexit personally yet.

Things have a long way to go until we ‘do deals with the Taliban’

I co own/run a small manufacturing / own product outfit in the UK, sell lots to the EU and we aren’t perceptibly down on sales since Brexit, the only definitive downsides we have felt are increased material costs, but these aren’t enough for us to worry about.

Will this all change when the ‘Covid boom’ is over - possibly, but not enough to get millions pissed off enough to march on parliament - Brexit is done, we need to make the best of it now and only time will allow the re-opening of the door to the EU, if thats what future generations want.
  • 3 0
 @justanotherusername: fair enough, maybe I'm getting carried away. I just find it unacceptable that this was allowed to happen and that it happened in almost the most wreckless way possible. I think I feel split in two by the whole thing (I'm a dual national).
  • 2 0
 @justanotherusername: actually, if they win another term, it'll be "fair enough, game over", but resigning yourself to that is pretty bleak. Also, while your sector and line of business has done ok, that's not necessarily the rule, as you must know.
  • 1 1
 @TEBP: not saying it isn't fine regardless, but can't help but point out that in a coil shock that shaft only deals with forces applied from the damper, in an air shock it bears the (much higher) actual spring forces. Totally different. Wink
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: if your a dual national mate you are going to have to pick a side unfortunately stradling the fence wont last forever, im not a dual national and had to close my manufacturing business because we imported material from europe that the UK does not manufacture , i now work for Her Majestys Govt and see both sides of whats going on and believe me when i say this its no setup to make anyone think anything its an unstoppable juggernaut which you cannot change the press merely interperet and report based on their bias or whats been leaked
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: If they win another term (which they will, easily, despite my vote) I am not resigning myself to anything, just continuing to live in a country governed by a party the majority voted in, unless I want to leave there isn’t an alternative .

As I say, I don’t personally know a single person that has been negatively effected by Brexit, especially not enough to turn the majority away from the Conservative party, the Covid situation may be masking much of this but as I will re-iterate, to much of the voting general public Brexit taking place has made absolutely no perceptible difference to life.
  • 1 0
 if i havent snapped mine on a flexi starling, you wouldnt have to worry.
  • 1 1
 @Compositepro: Hmmm, bleak.

@justanotherusername: "had to close my manufacturing business because we imported material from europe that the UK does not manufacture", said the guy above you. Anyway, stay safe and keep having fun. If you can't deal with it, a good solution is to jump ship right now, as you say. The grass is greener (and steeper) on the other side.
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: we import quite a bit of aluminium from the EU and continue to do so without issue.

@compositepro - any more details as to why you couldn’t get it at all? The worst we have seen are delays.
  • 1 1
 @BenPea: I'd much rather go it alone if its all the same to you
  • 1 0
 @justanotherusername: its a special grade we order it by the container load comes from 2 mills one in germany the other poland however the cost of up front vat and shipping and the confusion of tarriffs delays was just enough to call time on it we tried using another grade from the USA but they make that once a year and basically if you missed the slot you were either going begging or getting nothing ironically we dont have a single smelting plant in the UK for aluminium let alone one that can make custom extrusions a lot of the fittings and linear rails etc came from germany too and went from being just in time to we dont wish to shpply you till the details are sorted . Far easier to hang up the cnc machines and go get a job with a gold plated pension
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: no theres good things on the horizon too as with anything theres an adjustment period my case is my own i was ready for a change to be fair and this just gave me the push several programmes i work on now will see me to retirement
  • 1 0
 @Compositepro: When better opportunities present themselves and the alternative is potential extra hassle I don’t blame you.

You must have been making some pretty niche products to have to get hold of such a rare material, I know you have had fingers in a lot of ‘niche’ areas though….
  • 1 0
 @lkubica: came for the brexit jokes....left disapointed....
  • 3 0
 @justanotherusername: in 1990 I was in San Sebastián studying language, culture, and economics.

At that time, the ECU was still in the developmental stage, they were working on narrowing the cost difference between bundles of goods (basket) in the various member countries.

It was a really stimulating time to be in Europe, the idea of a European Union to push back against the hegemony of the USA, Asia, etc …

It’s kinda sad that it fell apart, but not entirely unexpected, esp from the Brits who were the nationalistic.

Brexit is nothing, just some silliness foisted on the British people by politicians who made it an issue in order to get elected.

Sad.
  • 12 0
 The cleanest rotors I ever did see
  • 11 4
 Anyone else see that cracked carbon rim (right at the valve)?
  • 5 1
 I’m taking it as a sign the bike actually gets ridden!
  • 28 3
 @dirtnapped: I'm taking it as a sign not to buy those wheels
  • 1 0
 Looks like a droplet of water? post wash photo but didn't dry completely maybe
  • 28 0
 Hi, that's not a crack. The thingy you see has to do with the manufacturing method that Lilienthal uses for their rims (non crimp fabric bands).
  • 3 0
 I run the same Erase rear hub (as well as the front Erase hub btw) on my bike for one year and am extremely happy with how it performs. These hubs do deserve more publicity than they are getting right now. In my mind Erase made all the right choices with a robust titanium ratcheting system with 60 engagement points which is easy to service (similar to the old DT system), a titanium freehub body which does not get scored by the cassette, standard easily replaceable bearings, good sealing, low weight and a very affordable price.
  • 2 0
 It's nice in a crazy-looking way. I'd really like to to ride that bike before I got one though; that would be critical....you can't be riding an expensive, odd-looking, bike that's ALSO a crappy suspension design!
It would be Torture!
  • 4 0
 I'm usually the first one to poke fun at a bike, wheel size or design. However this is one cracking looking machine. Love it.
  • 2 0
 What an amazing build. I’ve been following the VHP project since the first post (I really rate and use their components too). Was up for investing before the pandemic struck - new startup = no income, thanks Boris.

Anyway, sitting here with some serious metal holding my leg together this ‘comfort’ build looks like just the ticket once business picks up and I’m allowed back on two wheels. I’ll keep putting the pennies in the jar
  • 5 0
 At that point you could at least try to slide on a good English sausage!
  • 5 1
 Bike of the future! Amazing build, but not much info about the fork.
  • 2 16
flag JoshieK (Aug 21, 2021 at 0:31) (Below Threshold)
 Oh look the NAZI is back
  • 4 0
 Really wish we could try Intend's products in the US. Great looking bike!
  • 3 0
 You can just gotta sweet talk him. Bought a fork from him last year in January. Although something might have changed since then.
  • 3 0
 Are magura brakes actually locally made? I thought they were made in Taiwan
  • 7 0
 Hi, it depends on which brake you buy. I checked this with Magura and they say that for the MT7, the caliper as well as the master cylinder are made in Germany. The Loic Bruni special edition lever is also 3D printed in Germany ;-)
  • 4 0
 I have a Giant NRS haunting me in my dreams now.
  • 1 1
 Let's be honest, where is anything actually made? Sure, you can machine a block of aluminum at home and say "made at home" but where was that metal mined and turned into an ingot to machine? Where'd the rubber for the tires come from? "Made on Earth" is more accurate imo. Food for thought.
  • 3 0
 Darth Vader would ride this bike.
  • 2 0
 Nothing like positioning your rear caliper to ensure the air bubbles get trapped.
  • 1 0
 On most bikes these days, the rear caliper and/or hose routing is such that there is a local high point where air might get trapped. It is not on my bike (I do have continuous upwards hose routing) but I suppose people can still put the bike on its rear wheel (or upright in a bike stand if the stand allows for that) and pump the brake. But if it happens too often, you'll probably have to bleed the brake anyway.
  • 3 1
 Just price the frame at 100k euros and you can fit any component while still being "95%" made in Europe. Wink
  • 3 0
 The Swiss watch model
  • 1 0
 I mean, the non-European components come in at about 4-500$, so you do the math for the whole price. It's not cheap, even for a dentist.
  • 3 0
 Awesome looking bike! Get on your high horst link.
  • 2 0
 It’s great to see something a little different; the Intend forks look great.
  • 2 0
 sure hope 77designz upped their quality game after the cracking results they had with their stems.
  • 2 0
 Pembree are from East Sussex. Not Wales. Great pedals tho.
  • 1 0
 They probably got Pembrey and Pembree mixed up
  • 1 0
 I can't decide if I salivated a bit or threw up in my mouth a bit! Still deciding:-)
  • 3 0
 You salivate a lot before And when you throw up, don't let it stop you!
  • 1 0
 Love the bike. Would prefer the fork stanchions to be anodised black though..looks unfinshed
  • 3 1
 I like the concept, but ... So much money for such an ugly ride!!
  • 2 0
 Looks like my old giant xtc. I like it!
  • 1 0
 Couldn’t find a European grip manufacturer?
  • 4 0
 in the article i think it said that his goal was to make it as comfortable as possible
  • 3 0
 Renthal grips are all made in UK.
  • 2 1
 Reveries are really specific. They rotate slightly to help with arm pump. One you use them is unlikely you will use anything else going forward.
  • 1 0
 Woops meant revgrips
  • 2 1
 any idea about the 95% price is in US dollars?
Also total weight?

thx
  • 1 0
 Overall weight is 14.65kg for the heavy version and 14.25kg for the light version, and that's including pedals and sealant."
  • 1 2
 About 31.5 pounds.
  • 1 0
 Shock is $1160 excluding freight and duty, but is not currently for sale: 'Due to ongoing problems with the reservoir piston, there are no sales of the Hover shock until this is cleared. As long as you read this line, I do not sell any shocks.' --Intend BC.

So--priceless? I found this while looking for shaft metal type, and wondering whether WalrusRider didn't have his snapping vectors reversed
  • 1 0
 XT chainring?? Surely a typo on those cranks. And if not WTF!!
  • 2 0
 It's a Garbaruk Chainring
  • 1 0
 I think they meant an XT "chain".
  • 1 1
 with a single speed it could have been closer to 99%, which has a better ring to it
  • 1 0
 Not sure how the percentages are divided. Do the handlebar and bell only make up 1% together?

Wouldn't strictly have to be singlespeed, but I'm sure some people would be upset if he had used a Rohloff hub instead.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: Number of components made in Europe/Total number of components
  • 1 0
 @PAmtbiker: Just the number? So they could actually replace the bell by a Euro bell and replace the suspension fork (or even frame) by one from a different continent and end up with the same percentage? Somehow this math doesn't feel right to me.
  • 1 0
 Corners like a...magic carpet?
  • 1 0
 Thought Garbaruk were Ukrainian. They make parts in Poland though.
  • 1 0
 Forgot to mention the bottle and holder Wink
  • 1 0
 I'm gonna put intend suspension on my huffy. See if it helps.
  • 1 0
 An modernized version of NRS?
  • 1 0
 What's a gabel?
  • 9 0
 Fork in german.
  • 2 0
 @nozes: Ah, thanks. Smile Looks like they forgot to translate it in the specs.
  • 3 0
 @noapathy: Yes, my bad.
  • 2 0
 Federgabel! I was buying the yearly BIKE magazin compilation of parts you could not buy in Belgium in the mid 90s, I learned all the bike parts in German. Federgabel is a suspension fork.
  • 2 0
 @zoobab2: I too learned some german from BIKE. Even considered learning german so I could read the whole thing!
Such a awesome magazine,far away from most of the BS MBA and others were putting out at the time. Their "torture tests" have helped move the sport in the right direction.
  • 1 0
 What a beauty.
  • 1 0
 Na cacata proprio..
  • 1 3
 More c-section than session. Yeesh...
  • 4 5
 Stop Asian Hate Now!
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