You can spend as much money as you want, source the best suspension and get the best components, but your bike is still going to be flawed. It simply can't be perfect at everything that it's designed to do, regardless of how great it might be at most of the ride. I'd argue that's what makes today's bikes so interesting, though, and also all the more important to think long and hard about what you need.
You learn pretty quickly in life that no one is perfect, but also that it's usually someone's flaws, however small they might be, that makes them interesting. Actually, we should probably call them quirks rather than flaws lest I offend anyone out there who's flawed by not having a sense of humor, plus it makes those idiosyncrasies sound more fun and eccentric rather than being annoying enough to make just one of your eyes twitch. You know, like how you're going to love your boyfriend despite how he prefers to use a fork and knife to eat his pizza, and how your mother will always be your mother even though you're convinced that she must have bought her driving license rather than earned it. And quirks seem magnified when you're in a relationship, don't they? I once dated an amazing woman who, at least in hindsight, was probably a "keeper" as they say, even though I swear that the cat was using her mouth as a litter box when she slept. Her breath was impressively bad, but it was still a small quirk that, in the grand scheme of things, added character and meant very little. Ms. cat-pooh-breath was full of character.
Mountain bikes are kind of like people in that way; a lot are great, but none can be perfect. There are a ton of bikes out there that are really, really, fun to spend a bunch of time with, but they all have their character and quirks that set them apart from one another. This is true regardless of how much travel they have or whatever their spec sheet says. As of a few years ago it became pretty hard to say that such and such 120mm bike is a shitty climber, or how that 160mm machine is no good at descending - they're all much more capable than what the large majority of riders will ever need. But as good as most of them are, and as close as a lot of them may seem, they all ride very
differently. Different quirks and different characters, you see.
I'm not trying to go all Zen on you, and bikes are just simple machines that, in a lot of ways, are less complicated than your microwave or television. Your $6,000 bike can't even warm up leftovers or record the ball game for you, but it can do things that are much more fun, and no two bikes, however similar, will do those things in the same manner. They all have different personalities, and it's usually a number of small details that come together to create that character, which is why two bikes that appear to be relatively similar actually have about as much in common as that microwave and television do. One mistake is to only look at the empirical data: the boring geometry charts and spec sheets. While they certainly tell part of the story, those numbers can't come close to telling you everything. The number most riders look at is travel. Years ago you could look at how much travel a bike had and make a pretty reasonable assumption not only about its intentions but also how it was probably going to perform. These days, it's more complicated than that.
| They all have different personalities, and it's usually a number of small details that come together to create that character, which is why two bikes that appear to be similar actually have about as much in common as your microwave and television do. |
This couldn't be framed any better than by two bikes you might have recently read about on Pinkbike: Kona's fantastic, ready-to-chuck Process 167 and Breezer's 160mm travel Repack. One is a pint-sized downhill bike, and the other is actually a long legged trail machine that scales mountains more efficiently than bikes that are an inch shorter on travel and slimmer by five pounds. I don't think that I have to explain which is which, either. Both have similar amounts of suspension, yet those numbers sum them up as a whole about as well as what you ate for dinner last night says about you as a person. I ate a massive burrito from Taco del Mar and then drank a sugar-filled energy drink, but I'm neither Mexican nor that sweet. I do apparently like bad food, however.
The quick handling Breezer's quirk is that its 160mm travel runs out too quickly, requiring you to fill the shock with volume spacers and run more air pressure than it should require. It's so damn good at other parts of the ride that there are many people who will happily look past this fact, though, and many more who might not even take note of it. The Breezer is a great bike but, just like the Kona, it isn't perfect. In fact, it's just the opposite of the big Process despite the two being within 7mm when it comes to suspension travel. They're so close in some ways, yet so far apart in others that they can't really be thought of as being made for the same purpose, which they're not. Both bikes are great machines when each is in the hands of the right rider, though.
Quirks and flaws like those are why today's bikes are so interesting. Pretty much every bike I've spent time on over the last year has been impressive in one way or another, but none are perfect for how I ride on a daily basis. So, in no particular order, here are some bikes and their quirks that are relevant to how they're intended to be ridden, as well as to each one's competition: the Foxy is impossibly efficient and one of the best short-travel bikes to be on when things get sketchy, but it's also a handful at slow speeds and on tamer trails; the Habit is an awesomely fun all-rounder, but its Lefty fork is a bit behind compared to the best from FOX and RockShox; the Repack climbs like no other 160mm bike can, but its suspension is far too linear; the SB6C loves to smash through it all on the downs, but it's a handful on tech climbs compared to some other 160mm bikes; the Spartan stays glued to the ground like a basset hound with cement boots on, but that makes it not as playful as I'd prefer; the AMR Riot Lector is fun but far too nervous to really push hard; the fun and lively Lifeline isn't as planted and forgiving as some other DH sleds; the HD3 gets it nearly all right at the sacrifice of feeling a bit pointy on steep and scary descents; the Strive is a good stab at doing a lot of things really well, but its Shapeshifter system is too finicky and can feel like a crutch.
I know for a fact that none of those bikes are going to be perfect for you, even if they're all more bike than we might ever need, but one or more of them may have a quirk or two that you're happy to look past just because it's so damn good at other parts of the ride. And no so-called quirk or flaw is going to be viewed in the same light by two different riders, either. Maybe you and your tree trunk legs can easily overcome a poor pedaling bike, or maybe that sort of thing just doesn't matter to you because of where you live and how you ride. Sure, mountain biking is fun regardless of what we're on, but I've always found that I have the most fun when I match the bike and its setup to the terrain and how I ride.
That is the trick, of course, to find that one bike that best suits your trails and your riding style. Your "keeper" of sorts.
Or maybe you've already found your special bike. And if so, what quirks are you happy to ignore?
I'll neg prop myself for that one.
A few weeks ago we were decending some typical Utah single track. He was on a 2015 Transition Patrol, I was on his 2013 Covert 29 (both with XX1 and enve everything) and of course he was outrunning me as usual. Meanwhile our young nephew took a hard crash on his Scott Spark 740 and destroyed the rear brake. I gave my nephew the Covert so he could have a safe ride down and I limped along on the half brakeless Spark.
With a couple miles left to go, my brother took the Spark and gave me the Patrol so I could have a little more fun. It barely slowed him down, despite a 69 degree head angle, 80mm stem, 720mm bars, entry level suspension, pizza cutter tires, and dead rear brake.
I'm not a complete hack. According to the Almighty Strava, I'm in the top 10 out of about 800 on all the descents at my local trails. But while I'm always upgrading and fiddling with my bikes, my brother always seems to be riding faster and having more fun on whatever is available. Rider>bike always.
With modern bikes, it's pretty hard to go wrong. Pretty much every trail bike review is, "it could climb a little better, but it's worth it on the decents!" And unless you're constantly riding different bikes, you won't notice the subtle differences as much as Mike is describing here. Just like the color and picture quality of your new flat screen TV really only matters in the showroom next to all the other TVs.
The Pinkbike community is entirely too worried about gear. I'm as bad as anyone, but just look at which articles get the most comments on Pinkbike. Of course it's in the financial interest of the industry (including the media) to get us debating, wondering, doubting, and salivating, sure that whatever we buy next is going to take our ride up a level, but it really doesn't change much.
On the comment of noticing the subtle differences, I think we could notice those more if we took the time to demo and try out more bikes before we buy. But, obviously, there are financial and time constraints on that route. And I'm not so sure that we would pick up on the details of the subtle differences, but we would notice whether an overall package fit us better or not. I.e., "This bike just feels better."
Also how long will it take till you will find the next flaw?
I recognize myself in this: every time I feel like 'just need to do this one ugrade and than the bike is perfect and finished'. Five of those exact same type of 'final upgrades' later, the bike is still not finished, and I easily spent three times the budget on that bike as I was supposed to. But did the bike become three times as much fun to ride?
Problem with leasing is that it works on the residual value of the product and the finance company can then sell it on. If everybody keeps doing that (myself included) then second hand prices will eventually plummet and the residual value goes down. Great idea to kick start the automotive market after the recession but It's not really sustainable in my eyes.
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Doesn't climb well? I need to get in better shape.
Won't make it through that rock garden? I need to learn to ride better or pick better lines.
Never occurred to me that it was a shortcoming in the bike's design.
"Climbs like an XC bike, descends like a downhill bike!" That's excellent! I've ridden a real XC bike up climbs and also a downhill bike down some rough descends. So if it does both like that, I'll just spend the money for two bikes on that single bike and be done.
"This bike with 27.5" wheels rolls effortlessly over obstacles where a 26" wheeled bike would simply stall." Oh well, let's get that then. I'm always getting stuck at this tree trunk across that climb, let's invest in the new bike so that I can really blast up these hills and save some energy for the downhills then.
"We've developed this replacement damping cartridge for your fork that will transform your ride from good to amazing for only 699USD". Well, that's going to see some tough scrutineering.
Compare that to an early Stumpjumper ad: "Because it's bitchin', that's why." Can't argue with that. It was the way into mountainbiking and you wouldn't be disappointed. There were no flaws. Obviously climbing is hard, descending is tough (yet bitchin'), stuff is going to break if you crash and parts are going to wear out.
The other thing is that there are more complex bikes now (not saying the simpler bikes got extinct) and complexity comes with room for flaws. On a hardtail you're not bothered with pedal feedback, brake squat and whatnot. Whether the clutch rear mech is stiff enough without affecting the suspension system too much. Also, there is no issue of whether front and rear suspension work together nicely. Now add dropper posts and on the fly adjustable geometry and the range of applications hence also the opportunities to be used out of its depth rise proportionally.
So if you're bothered by flaws, just get yourself an nice steel hardtail. Don't get the lightest, don't get the strongest, obviously it shouldn't be the most expensive either. Accept that it won't be amazing at anything. Don't bother with color coordination, don't bother with Strava. Then just go out and have a blast. It will be bitchin'.
I ignore so much their quirks and flaws that I don't even know what they are
Bike manufacturers go for the middle of the road in the genre of bike they develop and sell. They have to take an average. It's fun to find your genre then personalise.
To me..as I've been riding them for 7 years..is that 29" wheels were/are the real game changer in all but the most demanding DH disciplines...and will continue to be so as manufacturers are delivering such fantastic 29ers such as Evil, Santa Cruz, Specialized, intense, Trek, Whyte etc.
The other factor is you need time to get used to a bike. A couple of runs doesn't cut it. A couple of months does. Hence why so many riders love "their old 26"... Put simply you are used to it and have adapted your riding to suit...and why so many riders coming from decades on 26" just don't get on with 29" and default to 27.5" as its familiar.
A great article. Hits it on the nose ( we are all different).
Get on that old 26" and enjoy !
My pennith.
It described every bike I've ridden but I think it might just be me that is sluggish on the climbs
I tend to also look to see if the bike is going to age gracefully. Creaks, groans, stiff joints and worn out parts after the honeymoon is over is a let down.
Don't look down on a cheap trick, either. If you haven't taken a dirt bike out for a spin you don't know how much fun you're missing. Doesn't have to be carbon this and 11-speed that for a good time, sometimes it gets in the way.
Fortunately, humans are very adaptable creatures, so unless you're a pro athlete looking for the ultimate performance,you can have a pretty good time riding "flawed" bikes.
Also, Nomad + long cranks = lots of pedal strikes if you're not extra careful (also depends on the terrain)
Unfortunately trend sluts tend to look only at negatives and have ruined it for everyone. Bloody geometry nazis talking crap, evangelising the world about how dialed and balanced a geo of a trail bike must be. It is super fine to adjust dual crown fork height or add/remove stem spacers for DH rig but running a 180 fork on a 6" bike? Nooo that puts BB too high and bla bla bla.
When I had a 6" Nomad I rode it with Lyrik U-Turn and it was the most allround and adaptable thing anyone could ever imagine. I want one again and I will put Talas 140-180 RC2 on it.
A new 180/140 external adjust 650B fork would be ideal but reliability for travel adjust air forks seems a be a bit of a gamble. I wonder how much of a bodge it would be to fit the old lyrik U-turn spring into the new lyrik chassis? If internal diameter and top threads match i should be doable..
@Waki - sure we can! Then I could adjust head angle by switching 650B and 26 front wheels instead. I am naive enough to chance that you are actually serious, even just a bit.
Low-speed flaws: long wheelbase, slack HTA, a few pounds heavier than an XC bike
High-speed flaws: not quite as plush as full-on DH bike, and I had to grind a sliver off the chainstay to fit a mere 34t (oval) chainring
But come on... it weighs 13 pounds less than my DH bike, soaks up the bumps very nearly as well, climbs just fine, jumps great, fits great, and taking the wiiiide line around switchbacks is second nature to me now. I don't see myself shopping for another bike for a very long time.
I needed a bike that I could put on the back of my SUV and ride it anywhere: Downieville, Santa Cruz, Tahoe, mt. Tam.
I gave up weight(30lbs) for a 6.5" bike that can
Climb, peddle and descend really well.
I will make that trade off any day of the week.
Checked out your race link, and other bmw's(still jealous), I modeled my bighit off of it with avy front and rear, custom 9" link and all. Pretty sure I've seen your bike in person, way back, there was only a handful of us hittin it hard in ct/ri back then.
Cheers
:-)
yeah man the avy stuff is def. My fav. Has been since he first started.
I wont even buy or build a bike that cant fit one on it!
Keep me on the list for spring / summer, lets go romping !!
Inspect it or replace it (it's a $10 part on a $4000 bike, what are you doing?).
Funny, they used to call them Freeride bikes.
Dumb move to quit making it.