Pinkbike Poll: Loud Hubs - Yes or No?

Aug 24, 2016 at 16:12
by Mike Kazimer  
Mountain bikers are an opinionated bunch, and given the chance we'll debate fiercely about topics that would seem incredibly trivial to an outsider, everything from how many spokes a wheel should have to the ideal seat tube angle, or the perfect tire pressure. It's not that we don't have anything better to do (ok, that might not always be true...), but it does illustrate just how passionate we are about the sport and all of its techy nuances.

The topic of this week's poll falls deep into the bike dork zone, but it's one that many riders have strong opinions about, even those who aren't mechanically inclined: Do you prefer your rear hub to be loud or quiet?


Santa Cruz Bronson review
If you don't want to startle hikers, Industry Nine's hub will help.
Bontrager XXX wheels
DT's Swiss's Star Ratchet system isn't silent, but it emits a much more subdued sound than other high engagement hubs.

For some, there's nothing better than hearing the 'swarm of bees' sound that's the aural signature of a Chris King hub, or the staccatto 'click, click, click' of an Industry Nine hub as they coast down the trail. It's like the grown up version of putting baseball cards in your spoke, just without the free stick of stale bubble gum. In many cases, a louder hub signifies faster engagement, which is part of the reason that those extra decibels are desirable. On the other hand, Onyx's new hub manages to offer instant engagement and silent operation thanks to the use of a sprag clutch, although it's on the heavier side, and long term durability still remains to be seen.

Personally, my dream ride would be dead silent, free of any noises except for the sound of the tires digging into the ground. The sensation of quietly speeding along on a strip of singletrack is hard to beat, and I'd vote for that over riding a bike that sounds like it's full of cicadas that just woke up from their seventeen year slumber. That's just me, though – cast your vote and voice your own opinion below.


Loud hubs - yes or no?



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  • 302 20
 HOPE HUBS.................that is all.
  • 24 4
 Amen.
  • 35 3
 @reds: Had some of those pro2 ones, pushing the bike down the street people were turning around to see what it was. Nightmare.
  • 56 13
 INDUSTRY NINE HUBS
  • 25 1
 Agreed, Hope hubs all the way!!! It saves on having to have a bell on the bars to alert the day dreaming ramblers on the trails to your presence. Loudest combination I've ever had....A set of Hope Big Un's built onto a pair of Sunn Double Wide's. Sounded like a gattling gun when I used to wheel it through the giant tin shed that used to be my work....one word, Awesome!!!
  • 3 3
 Absolute black diamond series are louder than any hopes!
  • 32 0
 Dirt jump bike: LOUD. Because I've got a Hope Pro 2 on there, it sounds legit and I'm normally yelling "these dirt jumps are siiiiiiiick!" so who cares about some extra noise.
Trail bike: QUIET. Because I use a DT Swiss hub and it's spot on. I ride in the bush/woods to get away from the noise of the "civilised" world!
  • 9 1
 One Good thing about a loud hub is judging by the sound if it's time for a service
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 www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK7CR3-LbYg

How does 204 points of engagement Profile Elite hub sound to you?
  • 35 1
 My girlfriend and her friend were horrified at the sound of my hubs when I was rolling my bike to the truck the other day. "does it sound like that all the time?" "why is it so damn loud?" Pro2 Evo FTW!
  • 15 1
 my hope hub performs a magnificent chorus with the cicadas now in summertime. the only downside is when I go out of home with the bike for very early rides in the morning, I have to hold the rear wheel in the air while braking to avoid waking up my sons.
  • 7 1
 my hope hubs agree with you!
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flag axleworthington FL (Sep 2, 2016 at 5:53) (Below Threshold)
 If you want the highest quality hubs on the planet, buy Chris King.
  • 3 1
 @RedBurn: Yes!! their the best, end of story
  • 5 3
 @jervis: you nailed it. It depends on what type of riding you do. In the park, or anywhere else where there's lots of traffic, noisy hubs are great. Out in nature they're as offensive as someone riding with a speaker blasting their poor taste in music.
  • 3 0
 @jervis: The best part about DT hubs is the ability to change how they sound, you're able to run it quiet whereas I removed the grease and replaced it with Tri-Flow so it's crazy loud on the 54 tooth ratchet.
  • 4 0
 @RedBurn: Hadleys for me,not to loud,not to quiet,always wanted to try some Industry Nine's though,personally i only use Hope's on my commuter bike,it's an extra annoyance to those who just want to kill me Wink
  • 4 1
 a quiet bike is a fast bike. nuff said.
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 @Apostt: My friend has those hubs. I hate riding around them at the indoor park!
  • 1 0
 Piss take ain't it?HOPE ffs.
  • 2 0
 @rejean: tell Aaron Gwinn that! Wink
  • 1 1
 @simooo: Broke my hope hub 3 time in 2 month ! Totally destroy the driver body every time !
Yes they warranty but i will never ride hope againt
  • 1 0
 *salutes*
  • 1 0
 Screamin' hope pro 4 if you ride hometowncentre - you will forget your bell on your specy
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 @cauboi: i'm about to have both Hope's and a bell,building a titanium 29er as my commuter,i got it a titanium bell to go with it Wink ............https://vimeo.com/156644526
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 @gladstone-s-mtb: you misspelled insanely.
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 @wizardb: hahahaha opps
  • 101 10
 I have a small penis. So make it loud. Compensate.
  • 41 3
 ... doesn't yours have a bell on the end?
  • 30 1
 I think an operation is cheaper than getting a Chris King or I9 hub.
  • 23 2
 When I rode bmx ("back in the day") there was nothing better than the zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz of profile hubs, that shit was awesome, but now tbh I prefer to be able to hear what my tyres are doing and the scrabbling of the rocks and stuff as I ride, that seems awesomer these days
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 I ride a profile hub on my bmx
  • 21 2
 Silence. Nobl/Onyx hubs. Love being able to hear my tire knobs ripping dirt over a useless showy buzzy hub. POE? Pffft. I like me engagement to be instant!

Wink
  • 2 0
 I haven't tried these yet but expect that silence like this has to be experienced to be believed.
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 @alexsin: Ive ridden King's, a lot of Hopes, Dt swiss 54t ratchet drivers, plus more, and my girl rides i9's. None come close to how these perform. No play before engagement is something else. And not a sound....no click, buzz, hum...just rubber on dirt.
  • 1 0
 When I first splurged on a custom wheelset, I went with Kings. Still have a couple sets of Kings and Hadleys (I strongly prefer standard J bends) but if I were starting over, I'd strongly consider Onyx or the like. I recognize Hopes are a good "budget" option but I find them unnecessarily loud. If silent were an option when I began, I think that'd be my preference. Love the sound of tires on dirt and the whoosh through the trees... Can't buy that shit.
  • 15 0
 In a house with 3 little children loud hubs can be a REAL pain in the ass. Whenever i try to sneak out with my bike for a quick ride without them jumping on me crying (I want to come with you daddy situation) a loud hub brings mayhem at no time...
  • 11 2
 Like it at first now it just annoys me. Especially when I'm some where remote and beautiful in the Lake District. I go riding to get away from people alot of the time so piece and quiet for me please. Walkers completely ignore me and block me no matter want so it's actually better to sneak up on them and the shout. They jump out the way then instead of deliberately blocking me like they do if they no I'm coming
  • 13 2
 loooud...so hikers and animals are warned. If i was alone on this planet i would prefer a silent hub.
  • 6 1
 I used to love loud hubs (Hope hubs, the Halo clickster on my commuter bike), but I now tend to some more silent hubs. I've managed to quieten a lot my bikes, barely any cable/chain noise. But now it's the buzzing noise from the Hopes, or the Hope brakes (which makes a super high pitch whine when braking Smile )
  • 5 0
 I love a silent hub, but lately I've been running Hope's and to my surprise I don't mind it. If money were no object I'd still rock one of those fully silent instant engagement ones though. Stealth bikes are where it's at. I could write an erotic novel about the sound of tires on dirt.
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 I'd pay to read that novel. Silent hubs are awesome.
  • 8 1
 I recently switched from a rather loud hub to a rather silent one. To my surprise, I totally like it.
  • 7 1
 Hell yes! Loud hubs are also safer for other bikers and hikers, and there isn't better feeling than jumping and hearing the buzz of your hub
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 Stealth bike FTW. The quieter my bike is, the more likely I am to hear when something is coming loose and fix it before it becomes a real problem. Pedestrians/hikers probably have headphones in and wont hear me coming anyway, so Im already riding as if it is my own responsibility to not run someone over.
  • 3 0
 I got my first noisy hubs and loved how they alerted dog walkers and hikers to my presence as I slowly roll up to them. Took the bike for a service and they must have drowned my shit in grease as it is almost silent now. Now I am sneaking back up on hikers and they don't like it
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 They're super easy to take apart and remove all the extra grease. I packed mine full of grease once and it was still kind of loud. I then took all the extra grease out so I could embrace the sound.
  • 6 0
 I went from hopes to liking to be able to hear trail noises and the sch-whalpe of tire when you smash it into a berm Big Grin
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 I like both, I can't they decide. You can't deny the utility of having a loud hub, it's like the sound of a motorcycle and I like it also, but the silent is pleasurable, I do love too hearing the tires on the dirt or the pavement when I'm on the streets. So I pretty much "don't care as long as they spin".
  • 4 1
 I prefer quiet hubs, and have DT 240s hubs and they a perfect. I don't think the loud hub noise is enough to warn hikers, because in my experience it hasn't. However, when you do hear the noise it is loud and really annoying. I sport a bell when I ride and that is far more effective for alerting hikers (and maybe animals?) so far.
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 I agree with this. I get the feeling that most of these folks have never ridden with a quiet hub. It is awesome.

Also, your hub isnt warning anyone. You pounding through the woods like a wounded moose is what is warning hikers, but 2/3 have headphones in, so it doesnt matter. A loud hub does not equal a bell.

Also, your hub is not saving you from Pumas or Mountain lions. They know where you are. You are loud.
  • 2 0
 I have Onyx hubs on a new custom wheel set. They so far have survived two days at the bike park, and a few days of trail riding. The quiet is fantastic if a bit disconcerting at first - think pavlov's dog where you associate hub noise with coasting. The instant engagement is no joke! I ride flats with 510 shoes and this has helped eliminate pedal slip (the few times it did still happen) altogether.
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 Even though I have Hope hubs on my bike a walker not paying attention once, asked (angrily) why I didn't have a bell.....(she was 200 years old). In the middle of nowhere, on a trail that happened to be a public bridleway and an uphill climb that I almost stopped on while waiting for her and her fellow walkers to scatter after I shouted excuse me twice.....
  • 8 0
 Ziptie an airhorn to your bars. Next time she'll know all about it!
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 Haha snap. Now I say a sarcastic ding ding Or I have a mini cow bell on my backpack that I sometimes uncork for the really busy spots and to wind my mate up chasing him
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 Silent hubs are good for me. My buddy like loud hubs and I can hear him when he is 2 riders behind me, but I admit up close the clicking of loud hubs slowly sounds very cool! But mine are all super ninjas! ahhahah
  • 3 0
 for mountain riding with friends or solo, LOUD hubs. For conmuting or being around people, SILENCE please.
Somebody give us another lever to put in our handlebar, so we can switch on/off our's hub noise
  • 2 0
 Yes, loud. Basically because they work as a horn to hikers, like from as far back as 30 or more feet. I don't notice the sound so much, but other people do. I run Hopes, all 3 of the Pro II versions and the Pro 4. Each one, depending on how much grease is still being used in the pawls, is louder or quieter. The louder it gets, I know it's time to wipe it out and re-pack. My bikes are are dead silent when I pedal and make no sound over bumps. The new Pro 4, at around 15mph, sounds like a bee hive. To me at least...
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 All I know is that when my much faster friend is following me with his i9 hub, I keep thinking we need to pull over because it sounds like other bikers are closing in on us. Turns out it’s just the super high engagement of a single hub that sounds like 2 or more bikes!
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 I have a pro2 hub on my commuter. It is great, because it allows to discreately show pedestrians that you are somewhere around them - without using a bell or and other signal. However, when on the road or trail, I prefer to be deathly silent.
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 A couple of weeks ago I would have said "noisy ass hubs save lives" I run pro 2's and people hear me coming and get out of the way! But I came across a Panther at dusk in Coed y Brenin forest just before I caught a flat escaping down the fire road - long push back through forest in the dark with that noisy hub? everything knew exactly where I was. Glad to get back to civilization in one piece :-/
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 Panther...in the UK?
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 Dude, I told you, you can't keep riding in the zoo!
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 @simeon10: yes indeed...I did some reading (online for whatever that is worth) and found that there is a "big cat" phenomenon in England. Most places say they are overgrown domestic cats, some say the may be as big as bobcats. Doesn't seam to have been a reputable sighting of a true big cat since the early 1980's when a puma was killed in the wild. The puma was found to be a released exotic pet following the 1978(?) dangerous pets law that made it illegal to own such beasts. I couldn't find any real evidence of a panther in modern England outside of a zoo.

Seems a bit unlikely that there are any surviving strains of truly big cat anywhere in the British isles. Bobcats possibly but don't be scared of those guys they won't stalk you as prey.

Now, Santa Cruz on the other hand: santacruzpumas.org
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 Could someone provide a short list of hubs that are on the quiet side please.
  • 1 0
 my DTSwiss 240s have been lovely. Not silent, but very quiet such that you don't really hear them while you ride.
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 Easton hubs are very quiet
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 Onyx are silent
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 Onyx are truly silent, absolutely love those hubs. Also love the quality and sound of Chris King on my DH bike. If you want loud, Hope Pro 2 on my Cove will wake the neighbors when you roll it out of the garage.
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 I agree. I ride an onyx hub in the back and LOVE it. It's pretty cool that it is silent. You really get to hear the rest of the bike when on the trails.
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 Onyx hubs for life. Ceramic bearings and ninja silent have you rolling for days (without MDMA).
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 Definitely my favorite hub I've ridden. Roll so smooth and are dead quiet!
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 I am a crap rider with an expensive bike, so I prefer to go ninja all the way.. I even wanted my bike in black instead of bright yellow, but this years model in black turned out looking horrible so I had to stick to the eye-catching one. The loud hub is nice and makes the bike feel new, but if it was 5-10 times less loud I'd like it 10 times more! Nobody turning around, no attention stolen and eventually.......less chances of having my bike stolen I guess...
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 Loud hubs on my road bike so that tourists will hear me coming. Quit hubs on my mtb because I like my bikes to be silent so that I can hear the nature as well as the sound of my tires when going through corners fast.
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 I have both silent and loud (just 6 degree engagement, not the buzzsaw) and both have their benefits. I love the silence but hate dealing with hikers that cant hear. Not sure which I prefer, but I like both better than my first wheelset which was somewhere in the middle, loud enough that I could hear them but quiet enough that hikers couldnt hear them until getting pretty close.
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 I have 2 sets of Hope pro 2's if there greased on a regular basis i don't think they are very loud at all. I also have a set of DT swiss 350's with a ratchet system and they are almost silent because they are greased on the reg. Usually when i hear a super loud set of Pro 2's I think to my self that they probably dry as shit.
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 Umm... Not sure what you're all taking about. My hub doesn't make any noise cuz I never stop pedalling.
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 I dont want to hear my bike unless something is wrong as for startling animals and other people. I've somehow managed to sneak up on both with a blaring speaker so I dont think it helps in that department
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 I wonder if the suspension wheel is loud? Does it go squish squish or buzz buzz?
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 Makes it say Whoo Whoo, but that's only in tha morning. You know what I'm saying
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 My old tesla hubs sound like a angry rattle snake is hanging off my seat post Big Grin
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 Loud hubs are great for warning slower riders of your imminent approach
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 Gently buzzing at someone does seem a little more polite than having to yell "STRAVAAAAA!!!" like an a*shole Razz
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 Even a king can't beat a profile elite though, with no grease in mine I can't hear mine next to one. youtu.be/HK7CR3-LbYg
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 Profile Elite ftw!
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 Because I am old and remember back to the wonderful clacking noise the original Hugi hubs made before DT took them over, I prefer loud hubs. Campagnolo needs to make a mtn bike group again.
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 Hubs should be either very loud, or completely silent. Don't give me that wimpy half-hearted, limp-wristed demi-click rubbish.
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 "loud hubs to let the hikers and walkers know where i am"

to bad everyone runs, walks, and hikes with headphones in and cant hear you over taylor swift's new single.
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 They also like to walk in a horizontal file when in groups crossing pathways to overtake. I backpedal couple times for those wearing headphones. Most will hear my DT hubs. The abnoxious bell is a last resort. LOUD HUBS SAVES LIVES!
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 High engagement loud hubs always have more spin resistance. I made my hub's sprawl springs slightly weaker a few days ago and now it spins like butter with less buzzzz.
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 The louder the better its subliminal willy waving! If your hopes aint loud enough double the pawl springs up for twice the effect.
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 I've made my DT Swiss Star Ratchet system more silent by switching to slightly thicker grease on the ratchet, no detectable change in drag when spinning, but much less noise.
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 Mine came pretty quiet. The DT's have a lower pitch sound to them too, which is nice.
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 Hope is the sound of speed
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 Loud as a function of quality and strong pawls... but not just loud for the sake of being loud.
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 My dream hubs are I9 torchs definitly!!! But if you re looking for ZERO noise hubs then Go check onyx hubs, used by cam zink
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 I love hope hubs but also like my bike to be real quiet a d just hear the tires !
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 No need for a bike bell with my hope hubs, I don't even have to say on your left anymore! Though, some are panicked thinking there is a bunch of angry wasps coming up behind them.
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 Loud hubs are the modern equivalent of putting a playing card in your spokes.
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 Where are my chris king peeves?!?!

Hope is ok and all but it will never beat the bumble bee!
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 Loud hubs yes! As long as they sound nice however. I have heard some hubs that sound horrible. But the sound of a Hope Pro or a Mavic ITS-4 hub is like music!
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 TURN IT UP.. Hahahaha.
I've been trying to quiet this hub down but.... I still love it. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

vimeo.com/175188479
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 Surely I can't be the only one that has an eBay search alert for Razor Rock hubs??

www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDgc8PhTJlU
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 King hubs are the best and probably always will be, Chris not Tune
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 Startling people aside I think silent would be awesome. And for some reason I'm anti bell. So if I had to make noise I'd rather it be my hub.
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 One of my bikes has a loud hub, the other silent. When I'm riding one I always long for the hub sound or lack there-of from the other. (Grass is greener syndrome)
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 King hubs...


Because compared to most PB posters they are older, ride better, and not as loud. Smile
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 Prefer loud hubs on my road bike and quiet hubs on my mountain bikes. I have a Machine Tech that uses a roller clutch and is 100% silent.
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 Does nobody have a Bell on their bike? A lot louder then a Noisy ass hub and you can turn it off when you want too. A guy in our group has those i9 hubs, they are so loud, I don't understand the appeal? 2 stroke envy?
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 I went from I9 hubs to Onyx. The silence makes for an amazingly different ride. I'm running them on the road and mountain.
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 I love my silent Onyx hubs!
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 Ukrainian hubs Trailmech was exhibited at Eurobike too. They sounds very loud. Just have a look trailmech.com
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 Loud hub for the woods, silent hub for the streets.
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 "Dead silent" represent exactly my wish. Thx mike for putting silent word on it.
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 Hadley!
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 Hadley indeed. I've got 2 sets. 1x108 points of engagement & the newer 1x 72 points of engagement. The 72 is great, but the 108 sounds incredible.
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 Minigun loud.. Scare everything around for miles - hikers, bikers, homeless, pot smokers - all those woods inhabitants.
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 Onyx hubs FTW
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 Loud to keep the horsey people happy. They get mad when you scare their horse.
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 No kidding? Takes a lot to get horses use to bikes. But once they are, it's all good. My wife has a few horses, technically I have one too. Took a couple weeks, but they are fine with bikes. Just remember, if you scare a horse and the rider comes off, you can become liable for the incident, including medical bills, injury bills to the horse, property damage, etc.. Some horse people are sue happy and a little nuts. Some don't take the time to desensitize them to things they are afraid of and those people really piss me off. Actually, the more you interact with riders, the better the horses will get. You won't be a big scary animal running down the trail coming to eat them anymore. Hell, pack a carrot or give them a treat out on the trail. They will be looking for YOU.. It's literally that easy to live with horses.
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 @oldschool43: I find it ridiculous that the rider is liable. Horseback riders are the ones who bring out a very large animal to shared use trails, only for them to crap everywhere and if they don't train their animal enough to be even remotely ok with bikers and something happens the rider is liable?

I am very much for everyone accessing all trails, but most of my experiences, and the rules around the horse folks are very frustrating.

(end mild rant)

That being said, right on for getting your wife some horses. My wife has always wanted "1" so I will probably be doing the same some day.
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 She actually came with them. Works out good because the the price of horses per year is about 3 times my mtb budget, which isn't a whole lot, but spending $650 from time to time is never an issue.

You actually just have to announce yourself and see if the horse is acting weird, ie, turning, backing up, acting riled. Then follow the riders instruction. You know, I think we may be in the minority when it comes to bikes. Our half draft (he has the 30lbs piles of poop on the trail) his first trail ride, I rode my mtb on the trail while my wife rode him (illegally btw). I rode in front, rode behind, touched him with my hand. He's fine with it. Our quarter horse mare (she has the 15lbs piles of poop) she was super sketchy of bikes, but I rode with her too and did all the trail stuff. Now she's fine. I could take them to the mtb trails and never have an issue.

As for the poop, it's actually the cleanest of all the farm animals. However, in my area of the country, the horse lobbies and bike lobbies worked it out so we don't share mtb/horse trails. The one trail we do share, 30 miles or so of limestone, gravel bike type stuff, we pay around $50 per horse to ride them because there is a clean crew to take care of it.

If the bike rider comes storming up and does not give the right of way or does not follow instruction (there are IMBA rules for horses) and there is a wreck, it becomes the bike riders fault. If you are just sitting there, completely different issue.

As for your wife and a horse... They are kinda cool. I mean it's a 1500lbs (or 2000lbs, he's mine) animal that is afraid of everything and getting them to trust you is pretty cool. And if you ever need a leverage tool for buying a fork or new bike...
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 @oldschool43: Love me some horses, but people, on the other hand... Anyway, I don't much mind the horseshit, just the double standard. I'm much more annoyed by dog owners who bag the poop but conveniently "forget" to pack it out. I've yet to encounter anyone on horseback that weren't completely cool though.
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 My Onyx hubs for the fat bike are on the truck for delivery right now. 1x. It is gonna sound like the batman tumbler.
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 Stealth hubs rock. Silent, with instant engagement, no maintenance, durable. I use a trail bell for hikers
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 So Onyx hubs then.
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 Stealth is also a company making silent, instant engagement hubs.
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 @Dano-01: to much drag with stealth. Onyx is the way to go.
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 @FLATLlNE: I agree with you on that. Definitely notice that my bike rolls further with the lack of drag on onyx hubs.
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 Loud as possible, can hear and gauge your speed and when in the air it gives you more sense of control.
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 Loud hubs let other trail users know I'm there. Very useful in multi use trail areas.
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 Yes yes yes!!!! Love my Hope Hubs. Don't need to let people know I'm there they can here me a mile away.
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 I9! Helps get idiots out of the way...although sometimes they sound like a rattlesnake with headphones in haha.
  • 1 0
 i want my hubs loud on legal trails, and not loud on...ahem...not quite legal trails
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 You guys are all amateurs. I still put baseball cards in my spikes. Old school FTW......but seriously Chris king hubs baby.
  • 1 0
 Spokes, damn autocorrect
  • 1 0
 pipe down! I'm trying to hear my dream hub. oh... I can't. It is perfectly silent.
  • 1 0
 Chris Kings, DT Swiss 240's only the Best Strong, light and ...... plus they buzz
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 I like a jingle bell hanging on my seat, when dogs or people hear it they seem to move right out the way.
  • 1 0
 loud hubs draw attention from mangy street dogs if you ride in south america.
  • 1 0
 rode with a guy with syntace hub once...them those loud hubs get annoying after time.
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 Hadley hubs are the way to go all the quality of King with a titanium freehub.
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 Love the idea of Onyx but at twice the weight and cost they'd have to be a LOT better...
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 Profile Elite hubs on all my bikes
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 Profile Racing Elite, the best of the best.
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 HOPE... what else??
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 Louder the better, I use mine to alert pedestrians and other riders
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 CLICK CLICK CLICK !!!!!! the louder the better
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 Its hard to hear hubs or anything else when your music is cranked up
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 I love a loud hub but sadly my hub is SILENT
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 Hope, 'cause i learned to cope
  • 1 0
 BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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 hubs either have to be loud as hell or silent, no in between
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 Personally whenever my bike makes a noise I associate it with something not working properly, or cheap componentry.
  • 1 1
 buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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 :)
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 Hell yea. Safety and all that crap aside, it just sounds cool!!
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 Loud hubs hmm, i remember the old Footwork hubs in the DH B1 team.
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 spank em LOUD...
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 silent bike, fast bike
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 Silence please...
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 I even like loud hubs on my road bike.
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 Angry Bee sound FTW!!
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 Swarms of!
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 Loud hubs = BRAAAAP
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 Loud parts save lives
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 Yup loud hubs save lives







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