Vail Resorts Aquires Whistler Blackcomb

Aug 8, 2016 at 11:12
by Pinkbike Staff  
Aug. 8, 2016—Vail Resorts, Inc. (NYSE: MTN) (“Vail Resorts”) and Whistler Blackcomb Holdings, Inc. (TSX: WB) (“Whistler Blackcomb”) today announced that they have entered into a strategic business combination joining Whistler Blackcomb with Vail Resorts. Under the transaction, Vail Resorts would acquire 100 percent of the stock of Whistler Blackcomb, whose shareholders would receive C$17.50 per share in cash and 0.0975 shares of Vail Resorts common stock, for consideration having a total value of C$36.00 per share. The share exchange ratio is based upon closing stock prices and currency exchange rates as of August 5, 2016 and is subject to a currency exchange rate adjustment, as described below.

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“Combining Whistler Blackcomb with Vail Resorts’ portfolio of outstanding resorts provides Whistler Blackcomb with increased financial strength, marketing exposure, guest relationships and broadens the geographic diversity of our company with resorts across the United States, as well as in Australia and Canada. This relationship will bring greater resources to support our current operations and our ambitious growth plans, including the Renaissance project, the most exciting and transformative investment in Whistler Blackcomb’s history,” said Dave Brownlie, Whistler Blackcomb’s chief executive officer.

“Whistler Blackcomb is one of the most iconic mountain resorts in the world with an incredible history, passionate employees and a strong community. With our combined experience and expertise, together we will build upon the guest experience at Whistler Blackcomb while preserving the unique brand and character of the resort as an iconic Canadian destination for guests around the world. We are delighted to add such a renowned resort to Vail Resorts and look forward to expanding our relationships in the Sea-to-Sky community, British Columbia and Canada,” said Rob Katz, chairman and chief executive officer of Vail Resorts.

Mr. Brownlie added, “As the number one ranked and most visited resort in North America, Whistler Blackcomb has enjoyed tremendous success by delivering an exceptional mountain experience for our passionate and loyal guests — both locally and from around the world. That’s going to continue as we work with our new colleagues at Vail Resorts as well as our employees, local businesses, community and government stakeholders to make Whistler Blackcomb better than ever. We will also continue our discussions with the Squamish and Lil’wat First Nations, on whose traditional lands we operate, regarding a business partnership that will benefit our communities, our province and our company for decades to come. Our board of directors has also been monitoring the unique challenges facing the broader ski industry due to the unpredictability of year-to-year regional weather patterns. Whistler Blackcomb, with its unprecedented acreage of high alpine terrain and Glacier bowls, is well positioned, but by no means immune to these challenges. Partnering with the geographically diversified Vail Resorts and extending its successful Epic Pass products to Whistler Blackcomb are customer-focused ways of securing the long-term future of our resort, our industry and our community.”

Kelly McGarry rides his mountain bike down a rock face on the peak of Whistler mountain with Blackcomb mountain in the background Whistler BC Photo Dan Barham

Whistler Blackcomb will nominate one member of its board to the Vail Resorts board of directors, and Dave Brownlie will continue leading Whistler Blackcomb as the resort’s chief operating officer and will become a member of the senior leadership team of Vail Resorts’ mountain division.

Supporting the Whistler Blackcomb Experience
Upon completion of this transaction, Vail Resorts is committed to continuing Whistler Blackcomb’s success and building on its strengths, including further investment in the resort and the community:

Support for Master Development Agreements with local First Nations. Vail Resorts recognizes that Whistler Blackcomb is in the Squamish and Lil’wat First Nations’ traditional territories and will support and continue the ongoing efforts to negotiate the renewal of Whistler Blackcomb’s Master Development Agreements with significant long-term benefits to the Squamish and Lil’wat First Nations, the Province of British Columbia and the Resort Municipality of Whistler. Local leadership. Whistler Blackcomb will continue to have principally local Canadian leadership, with critical day-to-day mountain operations residing at the resort, including ongoing primary responsibility for relationships with the local community, governments and First Nations. Maintain local employment. Vail Resorts intends to retain the vast majority of Whistler Blackcomb employees, while only impacting a few select areas where there may be duplication in corporate functions. This transaction will not change the day-to-day operations at the resort, community engagement or the input of local management in shaping Whistler Blackcomb’s future.

Investment in the resort experience. Vail Resorts will invest substantially in Whistler Blackcomb’s mountain infrastructure and growth plans, including continuing to build community and stakeholder support for the recently announcedRenaissance project, a transformational investment which will diversify the local tourism economy; provide new four-season, weather-independent activities; and elevate Whistler Blackcomb’s core skiing, mountain biking and sightseeing experiences for decades to come.

Common values on community and environmental sustainability. Consistent with Vail Resorts’ core values, Whistler Blackcomb will continue its community involvement through the Whistler Blackcomb Foundation as well as its significant environmental and sustainability commitments. Vail Resorts also will support Whistler Blackcomb’s continued engagement with organizations such as Tourism Whistler, Destination BC, Canada West Ski Areas Association, and the Whistler Chamber of Commerce.

Katz continued, “We look forward to working with Dave and the entire Whistler Blackcomb team as we support their efforts to continue the great progress that has made Whistler Blackcomb the world-renowned resort it is today. We are excited about what this transaction means for guests and look forward to providing access to the resort for our season pass holders around the world.”

Season Passes
For the full 2016-17 winter season, Whistler Blackcomb will continue to honor the resort’s existing season pass products. Vail Resorts looks forward to integrating Whistler Blackcomb into its Epic Season Pass and other season pass products for the 2017-18 winter season.

Additional Transaction Details
The transaction has been unanimously approved by the Whistler Blackcomb board of directors, and shareholders representing 25 percent of Whistler Blackcomb’s common shares have entered into voting support agreements in connection with the transaction. The transaction has also been unanimously approved by the Vail Resorts board of directors.

The aggregate cash component of the offer is estimated to be C$676 million (USD$513 million) which Vail Resorts intends to finance through an expansion of its existing credit facility. The aggregate stock component of the offer is estimated to be C$715 million (USD$543 million), based on closing stock prices and exchange rates as of August 5, 2016. The stock component is determined by a baseline share exchange ratio of 0.0998 shares of Vail Resorts common stock and is adjusted for currency exchange rate changes if the Canadian dollar is above or below USD$0.7765 six business days before the closing of the transaction. As of August 5, 2016, the exchange ratio is 0.0975 shares of Vail Resorts common stock. Whistler Blackcomb shareholders that are Canadian residents for tax purposes will be able to elect to receive for each Whistler Blackcomb share an equivalent exchange ratio of shares in a Canadian subsidiary of Vail Resorts instead of the Vail Resorts shares to which they would otherwise be entitled. Each whole exchangeable share will be exchangeable into one Vail Resorts share.

Upon closing of the transaction, Whistler Blackcomb shareholders collectively will own approximately 10 percent of Vail Resorts outstanding common stock. Whistler Blackcomb owns 75 percent of the partnerships that operate the resort and those partnerships had debt outstanding as of March 31, 2016 of C$171 million, or USD$132 million, which will be assumed or refinanced as part of the transaction. For the 12 months ended March 31, 2016, Whistler Blackcomb had Adjusted EBITDA of C$123 million, or USD$90 million. Vail Resorts believes if the transaction closes before December 31, 2016, the estimated incremental Resort Reported EBITDA from the acquisition in its fiscal 2018 would be approximately USD$129 million, or C$170 million, with the vast majority of the projected growth coming from additional revenue at both Whistler Blackcomb and its other resorts and a smaller portion of the projected growth coming from cost reductions, with additional upside from the transaction in future years.

Whistler Blackcomb’s 25-year relationship with Nippon Cable will be unaffected and will continue after the closing of the transaction.

The transaction is structured as an arrangement under the Business Corporations Act (British Columbia) and is subject to customary closing conditions, including approval by Whistler Blackcomb shareholders and the BC Supreme Court and regulatory approvals including approval under the Investment Canada Act and under the Competition Act Canada. Whistler Blackcomb is subject to customary non-solicitation provisions under the arrangement agreement. The agreement also includes a termination fee and reverse termination fee payable in certain circumstances.

Further information regarding the transaction will be included in an information circular to be mailed to Whistler Blackcomb shareholders. The transaction is expected to close in fall 2016.

Greenhill & Co. is serving as financial advisor to Whistler Blackcomb and has delivered a fairness opinion to its board of directors that the consideration to be received by the Whistler Blackcomb shareholders is fair from a financial point of view.

Stikeman Elliott LLP and Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP are serving as legal counsel to Vail Resorts. Osler, Hoskin & Harcourt LLP is serving as legal counsel to Whistler Blackcomb, and Farris, Vaughan, Wills & Murphy LLP is serving as legal counsel to Whistler Blackcomb’s special committee of the board of directors.


About Whistler Blackcomb (TSX: WB)
North America's premier four-season mountain resort, located in the coastal mountains of British Columbia, Canada, Whistler Mountain and Blackcomb Mountain are two side-by-side mountains connected by the world record-breaking PEAK 2 PEAK Gondola, which combined offer more than 200 trails, over 8,000 acres of terrain, 14 alpine bowls and three glaciers. The resort receives on average more than 465 inches (1,180 centimeters) of snow annually, and offers one of the longest ski seasons in North America. In summer, Whistler Blackcomb offers a variety of activities, including hiking and biking trails, the Whistler Mountain Bike Park, and sightseeing on the PEAK 2 PEAK Gondola. Whistler Blackcomb has been named the #1 ski resort in North America by SKI Magazine in three out of the past four years.

About Vail Resorts, Inc. (NYSE: MTN)
Vail Resorts, Inc., through its subsidiaries, is the leading global mountain resort operator. Vail Resorts’ subsidiaries operate nine world-class mountain resorts and two urban ski areas, including Vail, Beaver Creek, Breckenridge and Keystone in Colorado; Park City in Utah; Heavenly, Northstar and Kirkwood in the Lake Tahoe area of California and Nevada; Perisher in Australia; Wilmot Mountain in Wisconsin; Afton Alps in Minnesota and Mt. Brighton in Michigan. Vail Resorts owns and/or manages a collection of casually elegant hotels under the RockResorts brand, as well as the Grand Teton Lodge Company in Jackson Hole, Wyo. Vail Resorts Development Company is the real estate planning and development subsidiary of Vail Resorts, Inc. Vail Resorts is a publicly held company traded on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE: MTN). The Vail Resorts company website is www.vailresorts.com and consumer website is www.snow.com.



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  • 221 9
 Fuck vail resorts
  • 62 6
 just rode vail this weekend for the first time. pretty weak on the DH trails... hopefully they dont vail-up whistler.
  • 116 2
 @lyophilization: what if they whistlerize vail's bike park?


that would be okay huh?
  • 24 2
 Nothing like an entire mountain filled with groomed runs...ugh, LAME!!!

Whistler, "this is how it all starts"... "Be carful what you whish for, Be carful what you wish for!"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2tAF4hkFlo
  • 9 1
 why you being mean
  • 5 2
 @velocitajano: Thats why you stay in Frisco.
  • 4 1
 @stacykohut: The potential is there... So much loam on the north face of that mountain and daily rain showers. The problem is elevation, bike park would really only be rideable maybe 3 months a year. I have always felt like that mountain is begging for some proper diggers though.
  • 27 1
 I don't live in Canada and I've never been to Whistler, but I don't like the sound of this
  • 57 1
 When Vail acquired Kirkwood a few years back nothing with the resort itself really changed besides ticket prices almost doubling.. Not really sure how you can raise lift ticket prices without adding anything to the park itself. Vail is just another massive corporation full of greed and I don't see how anything good can come out of them acquiring Whistler.
  • 27 1
 Vail took over Canyons in Park City, and they made it less fun... Definitely watered down features.
  • 25 36
flag likeittacky (Aug 8, 2016 at 14:02) (Below Threshold)
 Why all this Bitching directed at Vail Resorts? All the big Resorts are owned by share holders and they are in it to make money. The time comes when these share holders are ready to cash in on their investments. It's not like Vail sent a bunch of Thugs up their steal it from them.
In business when a purchase like this happens, either the buyer proposed a sum of money first; or they were approached by the seller. Regardless, WBC was on the market and the buyer happen to be Vail Resorts.
  • 84 7
 @likeittacky: Take your fancy educated reasoning else where! This is mountain biking, and we like to drink beers in the parking lot without the worry of getting a citation from the 5-0!
  • 18 6
 @likeittacky: Corporations are like people. Some operate with an eye on screwing as much money out of their customers as possible and others think about the quality of product or service they provide and the impact they have on the community. Short terms vs. long term thinking. Monsanto is a great example of a company with the former strategy. They will steamroller small farmers to make a buck without a thought about common or individual good. Whistler has a reputation of supporting local businesses, building and maintaining challenging and fun trails and, while tickets aren't cheap, they aren't ridiculous either. Corporations should be held accountable just like people and it's a copout to suggest their behaviour shouldn't be scrutinized because... CAPITALISM!
  • 11 1
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: Exactly! Northstar is a great example! Everything in the "village" is way overpriced and has a resort tax on top of it. Vail turns resorts into mega resorts catering to the rich. I use to love drinking and partying in the lot after riding, not anymore. Vail resorts bring prices up, fact. If they invest more into trails cool, but you know the bottom line is all about $$$
  • 8 12
flag AdustytrunkMonkey (Aug 8, 2016 at 14:45) (Below Threshold)
 @toquer: There's your problem; Corporations are like people. They most certainly are not. They have too much power to invest in their own interest, not that of the people. They dictate too much to what people/small business can't do. Hope you're wearing goggles cause we like to roost dirt in the face of your kind.
  • 13 1
 @psychopete13: "A fella who might like to smoke a little grass or drink a little ripple, crow like a rooster. Maybe challenge the mayors son to a gentlemen's duel is now uncouth against God..." hahaha
  • 9 6
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: Your adolescences is running amok!
  • 18 1
 All I know about vail and biking is that before them I had a small local bike park in the same town as me. Before they where owned by vail, the company that ran the bike park (talisker) was all for it, and was very open to trail builders expanding the park to make it better. The year before vail stepped in, two new trails were made! Ever since vail stepped in, no changes have been made to the bike park except for filling in all of the gaps, and even removing some "technical looking" features which were on expert trails. All I know is vail dumbed the f*ck out of canyons bike park. PLEASE DON'T DUMB DOWN WHISTLER! it is a mecca for dh and to see it weaken would be disastrous to the cycling community in BC.
  • 2 1
 @psychopete13: perfect movie quote! Well done!
  • 2 0
 double post
  • 4 1
 @stacykohut: I'd like to believe that they'd learn from Whistler and put more time and effort into their Keystone bike park. Keystone has improved in the last couple years but they only have a 4 person crew to handle the new trail building AND maintenance. There was supposed to be a new blue trail built from the top of Keystone last year and VR pulled the plug on that last minute due to budget cuts. Keystone has tons of potential, VR just doesn't seem to want to invest in it that much. Will that change? We'll see.
  • 9 4
 Yeah, Vail is so terrible. They only offer the most affordable and priceworthy season pass in the country. For under $600, you get unlimited skiing at three resorts (two of which are world class) and 10 combined days at two other world class resorts. Find me somewhere else that offers anything even close to that for that price.
  • 1 0
 @stacykohut: i like the way you think
  • 14 1
 Having lived in Vail, I can tell you that mountain has little interest in biking. That said, they have turned a blind eye to some sweet pirate trails on mountain, and have shown some improvement the last 2 or 3 years. Typically, the resorts they purchase run pretty much the same as they did prior to Vail's purchase. Whistler has already been dumbing down some things the past few seasons, I'm sure Vail will get the blame for that. The bikepark world overall is dumbing down, just like terrain parks in the winter did 5-7 years ago. Northstar seems to have slightly improved, and keystone is keystone. Keystone will attempt to get better for a few seasons, then do nothing for a few seasons, that has been the cycle for at least the last 12-15 years there. I was at Canyons the year after Vail bought them, everything seemed normal, but maybe that changed. Heavenly is trying to start a bike park, but the environmentalists in Tahoe are hanging that up. I only mention this because I'd think Whistler will be pretty much the same, as most people will continue to be employed at their current positions, no matter who owns them. You all should just be mad that you didn't have Whistler stock 2 days ago.
  • 2 2
 Its the beginning of the end.
  • 2 0
 @psychopete13: I could watch this movie over and over!
  • 2 1
 @stacykohut: Yes, that'd be great.
  • 9 1
 Just wait until Vail tries to trademark "Whistler". Enjoy.
  • 4 10
flag blowmyfuse (Aug 8, 2016 at 20:36) (Below Threshold)
 @likeittacky: You've never ridden there. I have. Go suck it. If you'd ridden Whistler, you'd be passionate. You're soulless, heartless and corrupt.

Did I cover everything guys?
  • 2 1
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: Dude for real, I got the last ever ride down double down this season before the trail crew filled in all the gaps
  • 7 8
 @bizutch: My comment only pointed out the dynamics of what causes a purchase of such. Only a "worthless Bigot" would ridicule someone for doing so.
  • 1 0
 @bstill30: it's a classic!
  • 2 0
 @Knife-in-the-dark: This year is one of the seasons Keystone is improving.
  • 3 1
 @toquer: Vote with your wallet.
  • 3 0
 @Knife-in-the-dark: Vail may bring a World Cup to Whistler though..
  • 5 4
 @likeittacky: Making money through corporations like Vail is like a relationship with a prostitute... You put money in, get what you want, and move on. Vail does not care about mountain biking, yet you defend them for the sake of good business, and blah blah blah. You treat mountain biking like some cheap trick. You're the bigot! We care about our passions here. "Less typing, more biking!" - Kelly McGarry. I'll see myself out... Peace.
  • 13 2
 Soooo, Intrawest sold their remaining shares of Whistler in 2012 to a private equity group. How much has really improved at Whistler since then? Intrawest used to be significantly larger than Vail Corp. They had just as bad, if not worse reputation than Vail and are down to only a handful of resorts now, such as Steamboat and Winterpark. Both great parks, but ones that have also slowed down in progress over the last couple of years. If Vail can bring some growth into one of the many resorts they own and use Whistler as a prime example to learn off of, what's the problem? This has the potential to develop more quality bike parks in North America. Based on the premise of, don't ruin a good thing, you think they'd buy the crown jewel of resorts in North America and ruin it? They may be a giant corporation fueled by profit, but they also know how to effectively run a business. They've bought multiple ski hills in the last few years that were in reality struggling financially, and kept them going. Atleast Whistler is now owned by a ski corporation again and not a bunch of hedgefunders.
Obviously it would be amazing if whistler was owned buy a bunch of shredders who happened to also be billionaires and new everything about how to run a business that pleased everybody, but we also don't live in a fantasy world.
  • 10 3
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: Your beating a dead Horse! The Resorts Mountains are based on Skiing and that is what generates the money to make it. These resorts would not exist if revenue was relied solely on Mtn. Biking. If it were not for the Ski industry there probably wouldn't be much in the way of DH at resorts anyway. So give them some gratitude for their investments; rather than chastise them for doing what they have to do to stay operating.

And be a Man the next time you are at a resort and thank them for investing in the bike park. And stop leaving your Beer cans in the parking lot !
  • 2 1
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: Funny - it doesn't sound like you are disagreeing with me. Maybe you didn't understand what I wrote? Or maybe your point is just difficult to decipher? I am suggesting that big corporations often act abominably and that we should hold them accountable. But thanks for the faceshots.
  • 2 2
 @RLoganSx: Hey Pigpen, ever been on one of those lesbian chat rooms?
  • 1 1
 @mountainyj: Its Not a private equity group; MTN is a publicly traded company on the NYSE.
  • 2 3
 @likeittacky: turn your sarcasm meter on. It's a ruthless joke.

Bigot is way too strong of a word to call me. Suck it up butter cup. Don't be a cry baby.
  • 1 1
 @SteveDekker: www.kslcapital.com

Nope, private equity that owned the majority share.
  • 1 1
 @mountainyj: KSL owns Squaw Valley/Alpine meadows.
  • 3 2
 @SteveDekker: who was the majority after buying out Intrawest and taking over the management rights...now that's Vail. Anybody can go buy stock in whistler, doesn't mean you get to decide anything on how the hill is run. Unless vail decides to clean house and hire a bunch of new people, it's still the same managers who actually run the hill. But instead of having to work for a firm of rich dudes who aren't really in the ski industry. They work for a bunch of rich dudes who actually own ski hills now and for better or worse know how to run a high end resort. Seeing as they own, what, 12 now? Plus, any season pass you get to one of their other resorts, normally gets you minimum 5-10 days free at any other resort they own and with hotel benefits.
  • 3 0
 @TheR: unlimited skiing? I think your on the wrong forum. The real question is will they continue to enlarge Crabapplehits like Whistler has done from year to year or will we need to return to the forest and never visit Whistler-the only great mtb destination in North America
  • 3 1
 @mountainyj: It was Fortress Investment Group FIG who bought Intrawest back in the day. FIG then spun out WB.to as a separate public entity when WB went public
  • 2 2
 @leelau: that was 2006-2010. FIG bought Intrawest, then went public (2010). KSL bought those majority shares in 2012.
The convoluted owner history of whistler doesn't really matter at this point. What matters is there's a new owner that, yes could possibly f*** everything up, or they could make huge improvements all over their North American resorts by learning from whistler. im personally hoping for the latter.
  • 1 0
 @stacykohut: that would never happen, not on this planet.
  • 2 0
 I've ridden Whistler a handful of times this summer and it already seems like they're dumbing down some of the trails. More people on 6" bikes with trail lids and no knee pads then ever.
  • 4 2
 @cottonmouthdug: My point was Vail made skiing affordable for your average middle-class person with these passes. Any company that does that can't be the evil entity everyone here is making them out to be.

As for mountain biking, I'm guessing it will be business as usual at Whistler, and everyone is making something out of nothing. No one's going to pave to A-Line.

In the end, skiing is what drives the money at these resorts. They probably have over 70,000 skiers a day at Vail, comparable numbers at Breckenridge, and maybe 50,000 or so at Keystone. I'd be surprised if there are even 1,000 mountain bikers. Business is going to be driven by skiing.
  • 5 1
 Also, the season pass can be used for discounts for mountain biking in the summer, so there's that... I know many of us here do both.
  • 3 1
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: this. Everything at the Canyons bike park turned into a table, and every drop now has an option for people to just, roll down. They cut the bike clinic program so now people who have never ridden before or don't know how to ride, can rent a downhill bike and take a few selfies and go down trails they should not be on. This puts everyone at danger! I have come up to people hiking down steeper sections of trails and almost running into them! I really hope Vail doesn't take this approach with Whistler.
  • 1 1
 @Rucker10: I just came back. Haven't been since 2013. Park had some changes but overall same experience. The 6" trail bikes sure have gotten better, though!
  • 1 1
 @lyophilization: gotta go to keystone
  • 2 1
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: @AdustytrunkMonkey: You wouldn't want to get caught doing that now. Not saying tailgating doesn't happen in Whistler despite our beer drinking hoser reputations the RCMP and whistler by-law enforcement aren't less inclined to stop you drinking in public places like parking lots than law enforcement else where.
  • 2 2
 @davemud: I totally believe that as popular as Whistler is. For example, Mt. Bachelor by Bend Oregon is totally different than Canyons in Park City. Towards the later afternoon I was drinking beer with the locals, and other visiting from other parts of the world. It was laid back. Totally different culture. Vail is a nasty corporation thats basically trying to put an end to good and honest mountain culture. Park city was an entirely different mountain this year, like they shut down closing day celebrations which are sacred to the ski world. Not all mountains need to cater to luxurious upscale tame ass bullshit. They're cutting off the market to only include really rich people or employees which sets them up for a shitty dynamic on the mountain. Everyone hates each other. I find it soooo annoying that people get on here to talk some practical financial sense into the whole situation. No shit... Like we don't get it. I have a 401k, brokerage accounts, mutual funds ETFs, etc, but I'm sick of peoples shallow lack of understanding of mountain culture. I'm sure the greedy attitude of Vail will end with a shady scheme putting an end to them.
  • 3 1
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: What Whistler are you talking about? Whistler BC in the 70's? Whistler today is no different than Vail or any other mega resort. Its been all about the money up there for decades. They don't give a shit about local tax payers who bailed the place out before it became a multi national real estate success.

Sure there are people like you mentioned but they sure aren't the target market for Whistler any more than they are for Vail, Aspen or any other luxury resort that exists to bring people to the hotels and bars. To find a resort that truly represents the attitude you are talking about you'd have to go deep into BC's interior and avoid anything Intrawest touched.

If you actually had been alive long enough and living near Whistler you'd might actually know how the kind of people you're talking about view Whistler's changes over the years you would realize how ridiculous your comments are. Whistler and Vail are a perfect match and its a good thing because if they weren't Whistler wouldn't be what it is today.
  • 2 1
 What are you all talking about? I've pounded beers in the parking lots of Vail, whistler and Keystone, never been told a thing.
  • 2 0
 @Knife-in-the-dark: I've tailgated at Whistler myself but its not a free for all up there. My point is Whistler isn't some hole in the wall free for all compared to Vail. They are both mega dollar resort real estate corporations who are not interested in the local brown baggers doing things on the cheap. I forget what their daily goal per visitor is but its in the hundreds of dollars per day. Whistler's target market visitor is from over seas not north America because they spend more.
  • 2 3
 @davemud: My whole point is that Vail ruins mountain culture. Period. It happened here, and I don't want it to happen to Whistler. You make it seem like that has happened already to Whistler?
  • 4 1
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: Still beating that Horse! Well I came up with a solution; it seems that there are lots and lots of the Ski Resorts up for sale, (many of which i love to carve the hell on my snowboard.) The idea is, You cash in on all your accounts as stated, team up with some smart business people and BUY one of these resorts. Now this way you should have a fair amount of say so in how business is conducted, and the type of people You are intending on for Your revenue. I think It would be good to include a high quality, complementary fresh Beer, upon entering the resort parking lot.

Here is a list of the Resorts:
ski.curbed.com/2015/3/16/9980378/cnl-lifestyle-properties-sale-ski
  • 5 1
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: Vail is the third mega resort corporation to own Whistler. Intrawest bought Whistler from Aspen in 1986 before you were born. The so called free love mountain culture you think still exists at Whistler was long gone probably before your parents even met.

WBP wouldn't have been there for you to visit if Aspen and Intrawest hadn't used their "corporate greed" to build it for you. Neither of them gave a shit about local day users and BC tax payers who bailed the place out before they came along and turned the place into a holiday real estate gold mine. Day user revenues don't pay for world class ski bike and golf facilities like Whistler.

Those "locals" you drank with were probably there on work visas and on vacation like you were. You don't see the real locals hanging around the village most of them are long gone too. You're the kind of arrogant spoiled and entitled kid the locals stay away from mega resorts to avoid.

You must come from a wealthy family to have such an impressive sounding list of financial assets at the ripe old age of 24. As suggested you should sell off those assets and buy yourself a local ski hill since you know everything about how resorts should operate. Good luck, you will need it.
  • 1 4
 @davemud: My thoughts about Whistler changing are created directly from what happened to Canyons/PC and the culture. I definitely will not go to Whistler seeing as though You are the crowd, and well... I'd be supporting Vail. I no longer go to Canyons as they simply changed for the worst. Never claimed to be a business guru of a ski resorts either. The comments about being arrogant, spoiled, entitled? Really? I've got a flip phone from 2008 with Gorilla tape holding it together. My priorities are allocated different from those youngin's you're associating me with. Have a little respect.
  • 7 1
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: we've got enough mountainculture flower child hippies. Stay in your hole. @davemud you actually made me laugh out loud
  • 3 1
 A lot of folks saying they will never go to Whistler again......Sounds like shorter lines for me.
  • 4 0
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: Your short visit doesn't give you any insight into the culture, history or anything else that goes on or has gone on at Whistler. Watching the documentary 50 years of Whistler might though. It actually was what you describe... in the 70's.

Its unfortunate you have so little respect for the companies, their people and resources who know what it takes to build world class facilities for you to complain about.

Respect... yeah, you need to demonstrate it before you earn it.
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 @Knife-in-the-dark: Suits me, more space on the groomers to carve and ride like a maniac.
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 @davemud: We both like to mountain bike Davemud! We'd probably get along better had we bumped into each other on the trail. I simply lost respect for Vail thats all. I don't have a problem w/ Powdr Corp. Just Vail.
  • 1 1
 @AdustytrunkMonkey: I've experience working for intrawest, powdr and Vail. Powdr are worse to their employees than either of the other 2. Biggest bunch of cheap asses in the biz imo. I mean who takes money from powdr, to buy a chuck of another resort, but purchase it "as a family" to not have to include it on their passes with other resorts. Seriously, if you think powdr is the best in the resort industry, you need to look around a bit.
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 @Knife-in-the-dark: This whole fiasco happened because they fired a long time employee who was in charge of filing the renewal in the lease. Its rumor of course but it shows how terribly they managed the place to f*ck it up that bad. Whoops.
  • 2 1
 @toquer: Hells yeah. Stick GM in there too. They should be jailed just like Monsanto.
  • 61 6
 Here come the speeding tickets for bikers/skiers and massive increase in pass prices..
  • 16 3
 W/B already has speed patrol and $140 lift tickets. Vail's full epic pass is $800US ($1050CAD) compared to $1650 for a W/B pass
  • 8 1
 i go slow any ways
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 Speed patrol? Is that actually a thing? D=
  • 2 0
 @apioqm: how much is the lift at Whistler?
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 @apioqm: Yellow jackets. They even give out tickets if you ski switch outside of the park.
  • 6 0
 @scott-townes: to be fair the yellow jackets are only on beginner runs.
  • 4 3
 It cracks me up every time money is involved they are automatically 'greedy' and 'evil'. Why tf do you think they opened a bike park in the first place?!?! To make money
  • 3 1
 @ibishreddin: true but a lot people who live in these mtn towns have seen the before and after effect. Corporations come in, they build exspensive condos, give the resort a facelift, traffic increases, charge more for everything, but never actually make the skiing or riding better, just more exspensive! Sure some people will always be anti-establishment, but there is a real cause and effect that doesn't sit well with locals. Yes for a family going on an annual vacation, they won't complain or notice the changes, besides the huge outlay of cash, but hey at least we're in the mtns!
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 @deadtime: $70 for bike park, ? for skiing
  • 1 1
 @scott-townes: I've blown past the yellows coming down Home Run switch, right where the slow signs are, and they don't care. Its aggressive, irresponsible skiing when you are surrounded by learners that they tag people for.
  • 2 1
 @hexhamstu: not really, anything below black diamond they enforce on. Plus you can ski really well and in control switch but apparently to them that's so dangerous and reckless. Oh don't hit that little side hit either or you may get your pass suspended for a month.
  • 2 0
 Same question to you as above. What Whistler are you talking about? There are enforced slow skiing/riding zones all over Whistler and when you ignore them you should get a ticket and probably will.
  • 2 0
 @ibishreddin: For ski/bike resorts running the lifts is a losing proposition. Its the real estate, hotel rooms, convention center, and village amenities revenue they are interested in. They run the lifts to top up the occupancy rates because for most resorts the lift revenues barely cover the operating costs. Just look at the difference between ski hills with a village at the base and those without any on hill accommodations. Those without on hill accommodations barely survive and tend to regularly change hands when the current owner runs out of money.
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 @Beez177: Resort towns like Whistler and Vail have very few actual long term locals living in them. They get pushed out and the few who manage to remain stay away from the glittering resort amenities and tourists. The so called local population of resort workers is as transient as the guests are.
  • 44 4
 There is no good possible outcome of Vail trying to monopolize all the major mountains in North America all it is going to lead to is a bunch of the same features everywhere with no competition between parks to make each park better while being able to raise prices of tickets without a single worry.
  • 10 5
 There are over 300 ski resorts in the USA, Vail resorts owns 11 of them. Over 100 in Canada and now they own one. How is that a monopoly?
They also own a resort in Australia, Perisher in NSW.
  • 11 1
 But don't you want the new WB Mountain Cardigan that Vail will design ;-)
  • 2 1
 @preach: haha.. Someone neg propped you for this. It think it's funny sad and true. Pos prob
  • 2 1
 @SteveDekker:
lol best part of that is that Thredbo its main rival is the go to mountain for biking in summer and has been actively building its trails and is now used for comps like Whistler in summer and sking in winter.
and its not owned by vail.
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 @Hooch73: Threadbo is owned by EVT; Event Hospitality & Entertainment Limited (formerly Amalgamated Holdings Limited), an old-fashioned tourism and leisure conglomerate just like MTN. Hopefully the competition will make both resorts better. Cheers!
  • 2 0
 Its as if Whistler, Vail and their sister resorts are the only resorts around. There are so many better places for real skiers and riders who are there for the sports they enjoy and not all the village BS that goes with it. Obviously whistler and vail both have great terrain but true hard cores don't see that type of mega luxury resort experience as the best experiences out there.
  • 28 0
 Glad that places like Highland Mountain Bike Park still exist. The non-corporate vibe is awesome.
  • 30 2
 Hmmm, I didn't realize I was a mere 675,990,001$ short of being able to buy Whistler.
  • 9 0
 ...and that's just the cash portion...
  • 31 9
 Don't worry. It's just Trump Trickle-down cOmmmming to the Canada. You'll be fine. We'll all be fine. It'll be tremendous to have industry executives running everything here in the US, cos they really care care care about averything on both sides of the border. They're gonna make Whistler YUUUGE; it's gonna be terrific.
  • 13 2
 I think half this site doesn't understand sarcasm ;(
  • 7 1
 how drunk are you? isn't it too early to be that drunk on a monday?
  • 8 0
 @adrennan: Now that you mention it....
  • 10 1
 And in my defense I'm waiting for a new frame to arrive in the mail, watching replays of MSA DH and XC...and yes...drinking beer...and hanging out with my dog. And I have the whole summer off...
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 @pancakeflatted: I support your days decisions.
  • 4 1
 @hetfield1: it's Canadians under the age of 30 - prob about half the PB users right there
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 @hetfield1: you just hurt my butt. What do you mean by this??
Haha
  • 21 1
 Seems like Vail is trying to own all of the major resorts on the American continent, lame...
  • 23 6
 Enter: capitalism
  • 3 2
 Meh.
  • 21 1
 I'm from Park City, f off Vail, you kinda sucks.
  • 13 1
 Its totally awesome how they acquired canyons! They plan to eliminate the bike park! Sweet! .... Fuck Vail
  • 4 0
 @jrm36: Chill out, they're moving it to PCMR so that all the resort facilities are together (closer to alpine slide/coaster/all the base shit). I heard they're getting gravity logic to build the new park. You really think they'd dump that park? It may not be a huge money maker, but it's not operating at a loss. They wouldn't totally give up summer biking to Deer Valley.
  • 3 0
 I dunno I like that I can ride both mountains now for about the same price of pass. I also like that they put a higher speed chair in at Motherlode. The trademark thing was BS but that got sorted out, other than that I have no complaints. No speeding tickets or yellow jackets here (there weren't any at Breckenridge either when I lived in CO, but there were some at Keystone). So far I don't see why they get so much hate. Both mountains, connected, new (better) lifts and no dramatic hikes in season pass prices? I like it.
  • 1 0
 @BullMooose: They solved the trade,mark thing? When?
  • 12 2
 This is going to really suck. Vail owns Northstar where I ride with my son. This year, Vail has a total of 3, yes 3 trail maintenance workers. How well do you think that works?!!!!! Turnover of employees is huge, literally from last year to this, I recognize one employee (was a bit more stable prior to that). If I had to guess, they will decrease the staffing and report to their shareholders how wonderfully they have done in increasing summertime profits.
  • 4 1
 Actually there trail crew is up to about 14 they told us. Up from about 10 last year. We can hope for the future at least that they will put in some more sprinklers and try to decrease the moon dust.
  • 2 1
 @hgrenade: I guess they should let the crew know then. The number three came from one of the crew at the Gypsy race last month.
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 @carym: Probably a max of 10 at one point in time. Damn lies and statistics.
  • 1 0
 I'm sure some will be willing to volunteer too. Why don't they reach out to the locals?
  • 20 11
 Why all this Bitching directed at Vail Resorts? All the big Resorts are owned by share holders and they are in it to make money. The time comes when these share holders are ready to cash in on their investments. It's not like Vail sent a bunch of Thugs up their steal it from them.
In business when a purchase like this happens, either the buyer proposed a sum of money first; or they were approached by the seller. Regardless, WBC was on the market and the buyer happen to be Vail Resorts.
  • 9 4
 Why on earth this is getting neg propped is inexpicable
  • 3 2
 A sale after a record winter season is what is most disturbing. I wonder what the insider information on El Nino says.
  • 4 1
 @SithBike: Ebit was super healthy. Perhaps that prompted that juicy bid
  • 2 1
 Because people like to shit on Vail.
  • 3 1
 @SithBike: It's called Squamish opening Brohm Ridge.

The people that are freaking don't know there are WAY worse corporations that own ski resorts than vail, way...worse.
  • 12 1
 A day ticket at Vail right now is upwards of $140. If those shit heads raise the costs at Whistler it's going to suck.
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 $175 a day during prime season.
  • 2 0
 is that the price to ride and/or ski for 1 day? like open to close? or do they do the bullshit 6 hour tickets?
  • 3 0
 @mnaguilar16: Bike park is $40/ full day unlimited.
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 whistler is $140CAD
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 Vail was cheaper then Trestle (full day) as of 2014 when I last visited.
  • 6 1
 To be fair, it is also the best deal on a season pass you could hope for. Under $800 when purchased early... I pay $800 for just Brighton which is a 1000 acre resort. Most resorts in Colorado charge 1500-2000 for season passes. Can't complain too much about the epic pass. Still, I am done giving Vail my money, I am happy to pay more and not support that homogenization bullshit.
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 @sb666: For under $600, you can get unlimited riding at three resorts and 10 combined days at two more. It's the best deal out there for season passes.
  • 3 0
 @TheR: Yup. People here in Park City love to bitch about vail, but you can get two local mountains that used to be separate $700 pass each with just the epic. Not to mention all the CO skiing. It really is fantastic value on the season pass, all subsidized by tourists paying the outrageous $140 a day lift tickets of course.
  • 1 1
 @mnaguilar16: and do they include blow jobs and a meal for that much?
  • 2 0
 You are funny, here I pay a bit more than 400€ for a season pass and I can go in more than 10 different resorts
  • 1 1
 @zede: $140 a day is stupid
  • 2 1
 @racerfacer: not for biking, around $80
  • 12 2
 This isn't going to go over well....brace yourselves.
  • 8 0
 Folks be acting like Whistler was some kind of mom and pop operation. Puhleeze.
  • 6 0
 Right!? "MAN WHISTLER YOU WENT CORPORATE!!!!" Yeah right.
  • 11 1
 Popcorn ready!
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 Lol, scrolled right past the story to the comments..
  • 8 1
 I really hope this will have some sort of influence on Vail Resorts building up their DH infrastructure at Vail. I highly doubt it, but I can hope.
  • 6 3
 Why would it? Whistler was bought out, not the other way around.
  • 12 2
 @hetfield1: So now Vail has now acquired all of whistlers trail building intellectual property and access to personnel. I'd say this bodes well for Vail improving on their DH trails.
  • 3 1
 @flattire: I'm no expert at owning a ski resort, but that just doesn't seem like it'd happen. As others have said when they buy a resort they are mainly concerned with other things besides DH.
  • 4 1
 if you are in colorado, you go to trestle. that is what it is. i am not driving to vail for downhilling for a day.
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 @flattire: nailed it.
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 @adrennan: Keystone.
  • 1 0
 @tempest3070: i like my tires lasting at least one day
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 @tempest3070: Hell yes.
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 Trestle is sweet, if you like using lifts to enduro, brah.
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 @Knife-in-the-dark: its called superenduro when you use the lifts man. stay with the trends.
  • 3 1
 Once trestle complete their expansion they will be so far ahead of the other Colorado resorts that I can't see anybody putting in the investment to try and catch them. Their Achilles heel is that they don't have much gnarly natural stuff (although I'd say riding trestle dh full bore is harder than must of keystones slow steep double blacks) hopefully trestle will address this in the expansion. If Vail were going to invest in mountain biking in Colorado it would make sense to do it at keystone, although I don't see it happening. Best black terrain in Colorado is imo at Granby, while small their runs have it all, rocks, roots, berms and big jumps. Kinda sad how few riders they get, but it's nice having the mountain to yourself!
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 I feel like the "dumbing down" of trails is happening everywhere regardless of who owns the trails. I see it at my local trails and all over. The biggest issue with a big Corp like Vail buying a resort is the average joe will not be able to afford it now. Prices will go up and service will go down. They will push out the "riff raff", as they see it and cater to the deep pockets. RIP Whistler.
  • 2 1
 Whistler is already expensive. Now that Vail has their teeth into Whistler it's only going to get more expensive and more douchy.
  • 8 2
 Not at all happy to hear this news. I just don't see any way in which this could be a positive other than to line share holder's pockets.
  • 4 0
 All four ski areas of Aspen/Snowmass are owned by one family in Chicago, the Crown family. Would you rather have a resort owned by one family, or tens of thousands of shareholders. You could be a shareholder, own a piece of the mountains, have a say in the management.
  • 4 0
 Well here in Park City they immediately dumped about 50 million dollars into new lifts, lodges, a new gondola and the season pass is the same price except now they connected two local mountains (canyons and pcmr) into the biggest resort in the US. So you get the old two mountains for the same price as they used to be individually, plus you get all the CO skiing as well included in the epic. Corporations might suck, but they have money, and we can benefit from their investments.
  • 6 2
 They pumped a lot of money into Park City for both summer and winter, not that Whistler needs that, but bike parks are clearly a part of their business plan. Seems more like a murder and execution (merger and acquisition) move to further their North American monopoly. Vail added a lot of gravity trails this year, so before everyone freaks out, it'll probably just be corporate jobs on the chopping block and general status quo and operations will remain the same. I'm a CO lifer, so maybe someone from UT can chime in and give us the local perspective from Park City if anything really changed over the last 2 years. I would definitely count on price increases across the board eventually, not that any resort stays holy in that regard.
  • 3 1
 My understanding is that they stopped all further trail production at what was Canyons Bike Park. All my local buddies jumped ship for Deer Valley this year. But Canyons was lightyears away from Whistler. Hopefully they don't muck it up.
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 When Vail bought park city they fired almost half of park city's employees
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 Vail has pissed off pretty much everyone in Park City including city hall. No love for them around here at all.
More and more bike park people are going to Deer Valley. Notice that the Enduro is at DV this year? I'm sure the Vail people don't like the golfers having to look at people with dirt on them.
As for pumping money, they pumped money into a traversing lift, more lodging and more golfing amenities. Nothing to improve the riding or skiing and they've reduced access to trails that we paid to build before they were here.
My planned trip to Whistler next summer is now cancelled. Ill still go to Squamish, and ride a bunch in BC, I won't give another extra cent to Vail Resorts.
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 The only changes that they have made to bike trails is removing all gaps from the features to ensure that every feature can be rolled
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 @nonk: Spot on. Vail has been known to be a pretty big hater on the bike scene. Rumor I heard was that they lost a lot of money hosting world cups back in the day which soured them towards biking...

Good news is Deer Valley seems to be investing in some new trails, bummer this year is a beginner flow trail, but it's something they probably needed to round out the park there.
  • 3 1
 Good to know people, thanks for the low down. Not surprised by any of this. I love riding Keystone, but the I-70 take over was so long ago, most have forgotten. Here's to hoping Whistler doesn't go fubar.
  • 5 0
 I have a pass at Canyon's resort and have had for the past 4 years. There was a lot of work done this year on trails. Some improvements but mostly in making all features on all trails rollable. One of their builders mentioned something about new trails going in next year on the PCMR side and said there is a commitment to the bike park. Canyons passes also work on the PCMR side this year. There are some pretty good trails over there if you know where to look. Different terrain there so it could be cool to get more trails on that side. I understand they are doing their best to conform to Vail safety standards at canyons and still have trails ride the same. I will withhold my judgement until next year after the dust from this years work settles (literally). Right now Canyons is not busy and it is still pretty fun!

I ride DV too. They are by no means perfect. It has only been the last couple of years that they have really invested in improving the park. I have nearly killed myself up there from downed trees in past years and have personally spent time cleaning land mines from upper trails. Seemed like they really didn't care tons about the steep DH stuff in the past. Hope the trend continues and they get better. I love the steep rocky terrain there for sure.

If Vail really pooches it they have competition with both DV and plenty of trails you can ride for free. I am not terribly worried.
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 @dhx42: The 2 World Cups Vail held drew the biggest crowds ever to town. Yes you read that right. Much bigger than any ski race. Building a World Cup course back then was way cheaper than the snowmaking bill for a ski race so I find it really hard to believe they lost money. More likely in true Vail fashion. Somebody on a bike pissed off the wrong rich person in town and they did something about it. That's how it works here. Think before you about run over those rich old bastards???? Sorry, Canada as a long time Vail resident I don't see this as a good thing for you. But at least my Epic pass will be good in Whistler now
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 @Bikethrasher: Cool to hear. I just heard a rumor that they go burned by the UCI, but you're probably more on track. Total shame. Great spot for a WC event being close to Denver
  • 2 0
 The 2001 world cup was 3 days after 9/11, half the riders had trouble getting there and all festivities except for the race were cancelled of course they lost money. That was Vail resort, not Vail corporation though.
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 @nonk: They made motherlode not the slowest lift in the lower 48, and plus now I can ride both mountains for one pass that was the same as the canyons pass. No longer do I have to choose between PCMR and canyons. The trademark thing was BS, but we shut that down and they backed off. I don't get the hate I really don't, Canyons still rides great IMO in the summer and we get an objectively much better pass for the same price as we used to pay for PCMR or Canyons passes. The terrain off the new gondola isn't bad. I'd like to hear more about where they reduced access to trails because I haven't heard anything like that. What trails were closed?
  • 1 0
 @zeerob: You mentioned Vail added a lot of gravity trails this year, got any details on that? The only trail up there that I like is PMT/Mane Lane but they wrecked that last year with the addition of the Forest Coaster.
  • 2 1
 @BullMooose: You can't access Rosebuds from the bottom anymore. If you want to lap something like Insurgent by riding back up, you have to go around through the neighborhoods. I can't take my daughters up the gondola with bikes anymore with their epic passes. I have to buy another pass for the bike park. I won't do that because I think it's a boring bike park-we'll just have to disagree on that. The canyons DH trail is cool though so props there.

As for the passes, how much is it this year? It's going up way faster than inflation. What terrain off the gondola? Pinecone ridge? It's always been an easy hike from the top and it's better up there anyway. I think it's pretty much a scenic ride and it's faster to take the bus between resorts-Ive timed it. Their control work has not improved on powder days. It was always pathetic for sure, but hasn't improved at all. Yes it's cool to have access to Jupiter and the terrain up there, Ill give you that.
Their focus is on beginner to intermediate skiers which is understandable as that's where the money is I would expect the same for mountain biking so I don't expect any improvements in terms of trails that are in any way interesting or challenging. Like PC needs more beginner trails.

Their attitude and stance towards locals has been really poor- thus the hate is simply reciprocal. The trademark thing is a perfect example of that. They backed off because they want a lot of taxpayer funded improvements (corporate welfare) that were at risk. There are plenty companies that give all their employees pro deals on gear. Unlike almost every company in ski or outdoor, they won't return that favor. Not cool.
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 @BullMooose: 2nd slowest lift, after sundance
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 I don't know why everyone is freaking out! Nothing will change as far as the trails go. They aren't going to "dumb down" the trails. Vail owns plenty of parks that are rowdy. I ride keystone all the time and that place is definitely the rowdiest park in Colorado and its owned by Vail.
  • 9 2
 when do anti-trust laws start taking effect??
  • 7 0
 Ha! DOJ just approved an attempted purchase by AB InBev of SAB Miller - that'd be one giant company controlling somewhere around 80-85% o f the US beer market. You think they're worried about anti-trust involving ski resorts?! Guess again.
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 @hetfield1: If I recall there were some pretty big limits put on the beer deal in terms of what products were bought. I also think in the beer market, what can a monopoly pull off with crappy beer? If they jack up the price everyone will just buy good beer for a change.
  • 12 1
 someone mentioned beer?
  • 9 0
 @pancakeflatted: No, we mentioned Bud, Miller, and Coors - hardly beer Smile
  • 1 0
 @adrennan: You are correct on the limits, but the main concern is how much they control distribution. It's hard for craft beers to expand market share because of the way the "3-tier" system is written into law. Hopefully things in that regard change for the better.
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 @pancakeflatted: welcome you crazy drinking kid hahaha
  • 2 1
 @hetfield1: good one!!!!! anything the big three own is garbage or will soon turn into garbage......they are just trying to shut down the REAL craft beer and microbrew industry not to mention them buying the dustribution network.......they have some shady dealings going on, just watch the movie "beer wars".....a big eye opener to the corporate BS that they pull.
  • 4 0
 Anyone remember Purgatory? Then it was Durango Mountain Resort, then Durango Mountain resort at Purgatory, now its Purgatory again...
  • 2 0
 New owners are awesome and changed it back to purg, even though locals called it purg throughout the name debacle.
  • 6 0
 well, more splitboarding for me then
  • 1 0
 Hahaha, thats exactly what went through my head. More Backcountry Baker days and more gas money saved...unfortunately.
  • 1 1
 @glweek: baker and gravity park....see ya whistler.
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 So that makes sense, the Renaissance project was a complete fabrication with a view to increasing the corporate value pre purchase agreement.
  • 6 0
 Oh no! Change! Run away! ????
  • 2 0
 I just finished a 4 day trip at The Canyons, and it seemed to me that quite a bit of trail work/maintenance was being done there vs. the last time I was there about a month ago. First day I was there Double Down was down all day for a photo and video shoot. Rally Cat had been reworked and improved a bit (step-down under lift has been refined) and there were even dudes watering Rally Cat the whole second day. Also saw dude's working Ricochet while we were hitting Double Down. I agree with the comments that both Rally Cat have been "dumbed down", but it really just amounts to gaps being covered with wood.......you can still send everything to the intended landers......just doesn't look quite as cool as it once did, for sure. Would I prefer the gaps remained, yes. However, I do get it (other than I would argue that all the damn closed gaps allow people who are not necessarily as skilled as they should be to go down stuff incorrectly and trash it......I digress....).

I did have a thought though. I had heard from a very nice Deer Valley local and employee that Vail had plans to go great guns in to mountain biking and that The Canyons was the place they planned to do it. No idea if that was true but if you run with that a bit, this Whistler thing might make more sense. Great way to hedge against global warming and now you own the greatest mountain biking Mecca on earth (Whistler) and you can potentially make The Canyons the greatest mountain biking park in the US......where else can you get a lift served mountain bike park that is literally 30 minutes from a major airport hub?

Who the hell knows what will happen here but, as a person who lives within decent driving distance of The Canyons, I'm going to hope this means they want to go ball's deep in biking there
  • 10 4
 Fuck vail
  • 4 0
 All the more reason to support independent bike parks like Coast Gravity Park and Highland Mountain!
  • 6 1
 So I guess I won't be shorting MTN any time soon
  • 2 1
 Smart kid!
  • 3 1
 Awesome news........ The price of Whistler season pass will drop by $600 in the winter to match Vail prices and you can ride all the other Vail resorts with the same pass!!!!

Or maybe not :-(
  • 3 2
 When Vail bought the Canyons in Park City, UT they dumbed down all the trails that had gaps on them by building wood ramps that roll down the back sides. Some other trail changes for the worse as well. Canyons was quickly becoming an awesome bike park, then the progress stopped. Deer Valley isn't a good option either. Isn't even close to a good bike park. A couple old overgrown eroded loose shale rock trails that haven't been touched since 1999 and a couple new beginner flow trails that require a BMX bike to catch air on. Not to mention the lifts are frame hooks that scratch your bike up.
  • 7 1
 They have trays on the lifts this summer, and while still far behind whistler, their jump trail is probably the best that's been built in Utah yet.
  • 1 0
 @BiNARYBiKE: If you're talking about Tidal Wave that shit is DANK. Plus I ride it all the time shuttling Guardsman pass, best part of that trail is you don't have to buy a pass Big Grin
  • 5 0
 Who cares...maybe they'll actually make creekside rideable...
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 "Whistler Blackcomb will nominate one member of its board to the Vail Resorts board of directors, and Dave Brownlie will continue leading Whistler Blackcomb as the resort’s chief operating officer and will become a member of the senior leadership team of Vail Resorts’ mountain division."

Isn't everything lost... I hope so...
  • 3 2
 Used to work for Vail resorts, and it was awful. Terrible management from the top down. Vail doesn't care for anyone, employee or guest, they simply want your money and will treat people like garbage to appease their stockholders. Get ready for Whistler's entire staff to change over, either by quitting or getting fired. Vail will crush their souls. Sorry, Whistler, you had a good run.
  • 1 0
 Welcome to working in the snowsports industry... I have experienced what you have at many resorts across the west as an instructor... The key is staying out of the politics, and milk all the perks and pro-form deals you can get away with..
  • 1 0
 Funny thing about all this is the locals in Squamish I spoke to yesterday aren't concerned about higher prices as is a dominant theme here. Season pass prices won't change this year but they will likely drop significantly next year to encourage full pass purchases instead of the 10 day Peak card.

Apparently when Vail significantly dropped their season pass price they went from about 100,00o pass holders to 500,00. Well that's a no brainer isn't it? So concern in Squamish is the increase in traffic on the highway and lift lines that's likely to occur. They did say the daily pass prices won't be lowered as well so if you buy day passes no benefit but if you buy season passes maybe.

I don't know what the size of the cities is around other Vail resorts compared to Vancouver. Would be pretty damn nice if Vail gets on the staff pass exchange program Whistler has never seen fit to participate in. Maybe Vail will play well with others unlike Interwest did.
  • 1 1
 I can't get behind this, despite the fact that I've never been to Whistler. That being said, the best bike park I've ever been to is Highland. The vibe at that place is f*cking incredible. Being EXCLUSIVELY a bike park, everyone is there to ride and have a good time. Riders from all over camped out in the parking lot, total community vibe. The trails are incredibly fun, challenging and rewarding.

Then there's the resort I used to work at, owned by a Newspaper Tycoon. No one there had the faintest understanding of what the bike park needed to be successful, and as a result it was treated like the Alpine Slide or the UTV tours, just another "build it and let the cash come rolling in" amenity. Every new project had to get approved by 19 different people who didn't understand what I was talking about. The more non-riders are involved, the higher the cost of a lift ticket or season pass, and the more red tape ends up encroaching on every aspect of a bike park. I can't imagine that this merger will be a good thing for anyone but board members and shareholders.
  • 1 0
 SWEET! I get to throw more money at em' because the prices will be Vail prices! Here is my wallet, TAKE IT! I don't need new wheels. Frown

That's ok, I'll continue to ride true single track with a smile on my face.
  • 4 1
 Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
  • 1 1
 its vail they buy a mountain resort suck the money bucket dry and sell the resort 10 years later.
I just hope they keep the bike park the way it is...**and fix creekside zone** caugh caugh get rid of it
  • 2 4
 I think a major problem with Vail here in Ut, is the Epic pass. Because it's relatively inexpensive it makes travel to a resort in another state or country much easier. You get like 5 skier days at the non local resorts. What I noticed in Utah this past winter, was the skier quality greatly declined, and the crowds grew. We've got all of these squids and gappers from other states coming to take advantage of there 5 days, and they don't really know what's up, and there's lots of them. This then leads to the dumbing down of terrain,so then the non experienced customer has a better experience. They cater to the masses, not to people who have a passion for the sport. Sorry Whistler the dumbing down will soon begin.
  • 5 1
 All the "out of state gapers and squids" are busy fueling the booming tourism industry here in Park City. I have no problem with it, record year for vail means record taxes for Park City schools, as well as Utah as a whole. "boo hoo more tourists coming here to spend money"
  • 1 0
 I don't mind that all the new skiers stay down on the lower lifts. I'll stick to jup and east face.
  • 3 1
 Good god fuck vail. This blows.
  • 5 3
 IT MEANS ITS ABOUT TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE THEN IT ALREADY IS
  • 7 5
 As a shareholder of WB I strongly approve
  • 3 2
 Park City got fucked by Vail, enjoy the ass pain to follow.... Maybe Vail can copyright the name Canada.. or something.
  • 4 2
 Geez what's next, rollerbladers?
  • 3 2
 They're going to rape everyone for all they got and keep on smiling, like it ain't no thang, cause why? f*ck EM, that's why!
  • 3 1
 no interest in going to whistler anymore. Frown
  • 1 0
 Vail mission statement...Limit liability, Maximize Profits...shareholders happy
  • 2 0
 My favorite place in the WORLD is about to be commercialized.
  • 1 0
 Whistler was already owned by an equal conglomerate.. Not like they already sold out long ago, just switching it up.
  • 2 2
 Vail Resorts.... Taking over North Americas Ski Resorts!! Awesome!!! ????????
  • 2 1
 Whistler is worth half a billion. Cool.
  • 2 1
 New/improved whistler blade park and whistler blade n' bean
  • 3 3
 When I loved in Telluride is was only called VILE?
  • 4 3
 so terrible
  • 3 3
 FUCK
  • 1 1
 Vail = InBev
  • 2 3
 That sucks







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