First Look: Intense's New 29er DH Bike

May 18, 2017
by Vernon Felton  



Intense just dropped the news: they’ve been working on a dedicated 29er project, which they insist is not, “just a bandaged, modified M16.” According to Intense, key components of the welded aluminum frame's architecture were specifically designed and chosen to both accommodate 29-inch wheels and allow for the geometry and wheel path Intense was looking for. There are plenty of visual cues to support that. First off is the lower swingarm rocker, which pivots concentric with the bottom bracket. That, in conjunction with a seat tube tunnel, allowed Intense to minimize the longer chainstays needed to accommodate 29-inch wheels while providing ample clearance for DH-width rubber and muddy World Cup venues. The shock is positioned low in the chassis and most of the linkage elements are tucked out of view inside the tunnel or behind the crankset. It is apparent that Intense has been working on their 29er DH project for quite a while.


The obvious question is this: "When will we see these on the trail?" Actual production bikes are a ways off. Intense is still in the active prototyping stage, as evidenced by all the raw, aluminum frames you can see here. Intense riders, however, will be racing the bikes this season. Intense is making no claims about carbon versions at this time. Molds are a long way off at this point, as the company fully expects to make changes as the race season progresses.

What is absolutely clear, is that the team sees the benefit of going big with the wheels. During Intense's team camp, racers did back-to-back testing with identical 27.5 and 29-inch wheel prototypes.

Photo Intense Cycles
When they averaged the rider's times over twelve runs, everyone was consistently faster on the 29er rig. More importantly, riders felt they could push harder and closer to the edge on the the 29er, and could manage to do so more consistently over varied terrain and tracks. In World Cup racing, where fractions of a second make all the difference, the bigger wheels are going to make a difference themselves.

Photo Intense Cycles
Some of the key elements that brought Intense's latest 29er DH bike into existence: The CNC-machined link that pivots concentric with the bottom bracket is in the lower center of the image, and above that are the two halves of the seat tube tunnel. When it comes to fabricating a rolling chassis, Intense has one of the industry's better R&D facilities. RockShox's ability to provide a dedicated 29er fork, however, was the most critical piece of the puzzle.

Intense 29er DH details 2017
The concentric lower rocker link is tucked inside of the frame's bottom bracket housing.

Photo Intense Cycles
The bike's tunnel shock design and fully triangulated rear end make for strong, flex-resistant structures.
Photo Intense Cycles
Small head tubes require a lot of reinforcement, but help to reduce the tall stack height dictated by 29-inch-wheels.

bigquotesDedicated 29 DH forks with proper offsets have improved the trail numbers and, in combo with the head angle, it does not handle like a big bike at all. We looked at a lot of different suspension configurations this time around, as we had an opportunity for a clean slate. In the end, what worked best for us on a pure race-focused bike was the best balance of all.Jeff Steber

Laguna Beach testing
Jack Moir rocks an Intense 29er prototype in Southern California during the test sessions.


From the Designers

Axle path: We wanted to keep the wheel path manageable, where we had a nice rearward trajectory, but without need for extra gadgets or a wheelbase that grows exponentially and alters geometry, like on high-pivot systems. We were able to get a nice initial rearward wheel path, with good bump compliance.

Kinematics: Basically, the suspension rate is linear with a nice supple beginning, solid support at sag, and good bottom-out resistance. That provides good tunability at the damper.

Architecture: Fully triangulated front and rear sections to keep these independently stiff. The tunnel configuration up front allows a really solid connection of bottom bracket, headtube, seat tube, and it supports all the pivots well. The large concentric pivots around the bottom bracket for the main link makes for an extremely stiff setup and allows more room at the chainstay yoke for better clearance and correct geometry.
Photo Intense Cycles
Secret weapon: Intense partnered with Cesar Rojo, the founder of Cero Design in Barcelona, Spain. Cesar has been instrumental in developing their new kinematics and geometry.

Wheel-travel: We ended up at 180 to 200mm travel (so far), as we feel the 29-inch wheel's ability to maintain momentum and roll over and through obstacles negates the need for more travel. Keeping the wheel travel reasonable also stabilizes the geometry during the course of a race run.



220 Comments

  • + 211
 Coming soon to the deals of the week: 2017 intense m16c
  • + 72
 I wonder what the custom Jenson build will be?
  • - 5
flag makripper (May 18, 2017 at 20:41) (Below Threshold)
 surprised they didn't skip 27.5 and go right to 29. seems wierd
  • + 85
 Meanwhile Norco's still trying to pull off a 27.5 DH rig
  • + 3
 @makripper: make more money
  • + 115
 at this point im going to stop bashing 29ers and just admit im too poor to get one
  • - 3
 @font>font>Jsmith123 /font>/font>:
Norco will use 29...maybe
  • + 21
 @Jsmith123: Shhh, it's top secret... But seriously, both them and Transition have "just" introduced their new 27.5" carbon DH bikes, will those be obsolete before they reach the stores?
  • + 20
 @winko: i doubt it. Not everyone is a DH racer so a lot of people would still want a more flickable, maneuverable bike
  • - 11
flag cmkneeland (May 19, 2017 at 3:32) (Below Threshold)
 Damn, you go from the M16 to THAT? 29ers are killing mountain biking.
  • + 33
 Couldn't they just borrow a 29" rear triangle off one of the SantaCruz's :-D
  • - 3
 lol the proto norco snapped when it hit a tree.
  • + 11
 @jaha222: that was said about 27.5 and now a 26 is become very rare. I'm still riding a 26 with 20x110 and 150x12 axles, maybe someday it'll be cool again, or maybe I'll be wishing for the latest 42 inch wheeled DH bike... Time will tell.
  • + 15
 @Duderz7: But Ultra Boooooooooooooost 20x110 is a thing again. Your stuff is so old it HAS become cool again. Its like hipsters and cassette tapes. I'm getting ahead of the trend with a 24" back wheel, purple anodizing and qr axles.
  • + 9
 @Duderz7: The same with me: 26 wheels, 20x110 front/12x150 rear. I guess these are the best standarts! Smile
I haven't found a new frame beautiful enough to change my Sunday with... Smile
  • + 1
 Haha poor norco i doubt they will it sell it GOOD ... its gonna be hard..
  • + 1
 @cmkneeland: mountain biking looks pretty alive to me.
  • + 6
 What's interesting about these prototype 29" bikes has nothing to do with wheel size. What these team bikes prove is that of all the innovations over the past few years, carbon fiber seems to be the least significant (for DH anyway). Pretty much every other innovation has trumped carbon fiber for performance enhancement.

Aluminum is still ace despite what all the manufacturers tried to say circa 2013.
  • + 4
 @RedBurn: strange coincidence that was published on 4/1... You'd think that was a gag.
  • + 2
 @mattsavage: yeah it is I know ... shame because it looks rad, I mean i wanna try that
  • + 80
 Surprised it doesn't look like a Santa Cruz.
  • - 32
flag badbadleroybrown (May 18, 2017 at 20:27) (Below Threshold)
 They're moving away from running strictly VPP bikes...
  • + 35
 @badbadleroybrown: it's still VPP
  • + 46
 @badbadleroybrown: plus they didnt want a "bandaged, modified M16".

Those are fighting words towards Santa Cruz using a 27.5 front triangle and doing a custom 29er rear triangle.
  • - 44
flag badbadleroybrown (May 18, 2017 at 20:41) (Below Threshold)
 @kleinblake: Which is why I didn't say they've stopped running VPP bikes. Thanks for clearing things up though captain obvious.
  • - 7
flag splsce (May 18, 2017 at 20:54) (Below Threshold)
 Looks like suspension from the Devinci Wilson with that lower pivot
  • + 43
 @badbadleroybrown: why are you always such a bitch BBLB?
  • + 27
 Intense hired a bike designer rather than just letting Rick the Welder have at 'er? Weird.
  • + 2
 @splsce: that's what I was thinking. The bottom bracket pivot is almost identical.
  • + 1
 But it has some with Mondraker.
  • + 3
 @splsce: The Wilson is a Split Pivot bike. P2-29 has a rigid rear triangle, more like an Evolink except the shock mount position.
  • + 1
 @splsce: or Banshee legend also
  • + 2
 @mstivaktakis: Banshee legend doesn't have concentric BB pivot. Banshee legend mirrors Canfield Bros's Jedi.
  • + 1
 @gonecoastal: RTW clearly had no hand in welding up that frame if you look at the state of the welds! Wink Big Grin
  • + 1
 @kleinblake:
"JS Tuned is a refined suspension system, designed to work with each individual Intense bike model to optimize its individual kinematics, geometry, wheel size, drivetrain and component spec. The system is a culmination of the real world experience of the Intense Cycles founder and designer Jeff Steber, the Intense engineering team, the Factory Team riders and other experienced brand test pilots."

JS TUNED YO.......
  • + 1
 @AlexS1: The Jedi's notorious for its rearward suspension path, the Legend isn't. How exactly does it mirror it? The same way a Sunday or a Glory does? Smile
  • + 1
 @hitarpotar: Not sure bout the path but they both pretty much share the same suspension design.
  • + 2
 At first I thought it looked like a Mondraker, but then I saw the welds.
  • + 1
 @Lastpikd: Instead of words they need to let some results do the talking. When intense has 3 guys qualify top ten of have the most winning bike in dh they can talk.
  • + 0
 @downhillnews: it's VPP. They don't have to call it that because the patent is up. It's 2 counter rotating links, the definition of VPP
  • + 3
 @kleinblake: Thats not the definition of VPP... that was a critical component of competing designs in circumventing the patent while achieving the same goals but it isn't the "definition" of anything. VPP was more focused on the mobility of the pivot location in creating chain growth to combat pedal forces, and creating an "S" shaped axle path.

From the patent abstract:

"The system directs the rear wheel along a predetermined, S-shaped path as the suspension is compressed. The path is configured to provide a chainstay lengthening effect only at those points where this is needed to counterbalance the pedal inputs of the rider; at those points in the wheel travel path where there is a chainstay lengthening effect, the chain tension which results from the pedal inputs exerts a downward force on the rear wheel, preventing unwanted compression of the suspension. The system employs a dual eccentric crank mechanism mounted adjacent the bottom bracket shell to provide the desired control characteristics."
  • + 0
 @badbadleroybrown: the S-shape axle path is a myth. Santa Cruz has a write up about it somewhere
  • + 1
 @kleinblake: Go read the patent.
  • + 50
 This is the best looking long travel 29er I've seen to date.
  • + 3
 Gotta agree with you. Them clean lines and the angular look halted me in my 29 hating tracks haha.
  • - 1
 Agreed
  • + 6
 Absolutely great looking beast. Intense, don't bother with carbon if you can keep it looking like this!
  • + 5
 @bogey: It's a stunner. Great shape and well proportioned. I'm not usually a fan of a raw finish but this looks awesome.

I agree that Intense should ditch the carbon and go back to what made them great - beautiful aluminiun bikes.
  • + 2
 It looks the absolute tits. It must be a big bike because it doesn't look like a 29er.

@pinkbike it should says "pivots concentrically around the bottom bracket".
  • + 2
 Very cool looking frame and suspension design. The pic of all the pieces before assembly is awesome. I'm fairly indifferent about Intense in general, but this thing is bad ass.
  • + 1
 Yeah, it looks well proportioned and just straight up badass.
  • + 2
 @hamncheez: I had one of those wheezy ol' man lols.
  • + 30
 Didn't Intense create a 29er DH several years back?
  • + 18
 Yeah they had a 2951 back in 2009.
  • + 7
 Yeah in 2009 or so. They took a 951 and modified a swing arm to fit a 29" wheel. They also used a Dorado and shortened the travel to 170 or 180mm.

I think it was more of an expirament.
  • + 2
 Yes - a 951 about 5 years ago.
  • - 3
 Yeah... and it handled like an aircraft carrier.
  • + 1
 Yeah just in case you dont know, in 2009 there was the 2951. (951) It was just for shits and giggles.
  • + 6
 Didnt know if everyone got the point across correctly. I just thought Id put my input
  • + 3
 @chillrider199: I think there was a 2951 back in 09.
  • + 6
 @Jimmy0: Oh really? I thought there was a 2951 back in 09. Am I wrong?
  • + 4
 @chillrider199: ya, back in 09 there was a 2951 I think
  • + 4
 @carlmontnative: Thats crazy because back in 09 there was a 2951 and it was an Intense 29r downhill bike.
  • + 2
 I feel like Intense and Turner pioneer many features now common in modern DH bikes during the early 2010ish. Intense with the DH 29ers. Turner DHR with the low bottom bracket and short head tubes.
  • + 7
 @chillrider199: I dont think you guys know what you're talking about.
Im pretty sure in 2009,there was a 29er dh bike called the 2951.
Its called Google.
  • + 8
 @scary1: just bing'd it, turns out there was something called the "2951" back in 09. weird that google didnt turn that up?
  • + 3
 Yes back in 2009 they had the 2951 which was a dh bike with 29" wheels. I think.

I could be wrong though
  • + 1
 I remember that there has been a modified 951 with 29" wheels (so tjat woul make it a 2951 lol) a few years back (was it 2009?)
  • - 2
 I remember something about a 29er DH bike from about 07, some random guy made a prototype and sung its praises, but it never took off because everyone thought it was a bad idea.

Does anyone remember him?
  • + 1
 @chrisrobin: @chrisrobin: That doesn't look half bad...
  • + 2
 @chillrider199: No, the 2591 came out in '09...
  • + 2
 Does anyone know what year intense made a 29r before and what it was called?
  • + 24
 I'm sitting here in little old New Zealand, - Blenheim to be exact, and sometimes I wonder why the f*ck I bother reading the comments on pinkbike....not to sound hypercritical, but do any of you moaning and condescending roosters even ride?


rant over,

get back to it................
  • + 1
 ya mate, spot on... So many clowns with too many opinions and not much experience.... I'm sitting on my Island in the sea (Hawaii) and already knew that it was an inevitable that this evolution was coming. Racing DH or mountain for that fact is not like racing BMX. If all variable were constant regarding the bike and it's rider, the longer and more difficult the course is, the bigger tires in diameter and width will always win... laws of physics. By the way, it is also the same for road racing... even they are trying to design higher volume tires and wheel combinations because it rolls better. I don't see any 20" BMX tires on the Tour de France, i'm just saying...
  • + 14
 I reckon the comments sections are better than the articles sometimes!
  • + 3
 @shegotpop: pretty much always.

Why are BMX wheels 20"? Is it in the rules, like wooden cricket bats?
  • + 4
 @jaame: yes, in general BMX has 2 tire categories 20" Class and 24" Cruiser Class. 90% falls into the 20" class. Sometimes when an open class race is held, you can see the clear differences between the two tire sizes on the track at the same time. Acceleration is always faster with the 20", so out of the gate and down the first stretch no competition but the 24" will catch them towards the end of the course. Another interesting note is that if the track course is natural dirt, bumpy, rough, or long the 24" will dominate after about mid track.
  • + 10
 @jaame: Actually there are 22" BMX:
www.factionbikeco.com

faster than 20" and more agile than 24"
LOL!!! Even BMX has MTB BS!!!
  • + 1
 @chillaxin: thanks for that. I knew there were two sizes but I didn't know they could compete openly. I always thought there were two wheel size classes.
  • + 3
 @chillaxin: some folks run 26 inch DJ bikes at the local BMX races, they never seem to win though. Our local BMX pro pushed for an all MTB class once, just for fun one day only, it was a blast. I feel like a bear in the circus on a BMX bike, even a 24 inch.
  • + 1
 >moans
>acts condescending
>complains about reading the comments
>complains about moaning condescending comments

Literally your comment is just "waaah waaah it's my opinion that you all should stop having opinions" this whole "does anyone even ride or just complain" argument is stupid, writing a positive or negative comment (or a self righteous one like yours) takes the exact same amount of time and it's not like you're telling the positive comments to stop commenting and go ride. There isn't even all negative comments it's a mix of both, if you don't wanna be a part of the discussion don't go to the comments, click the little x in the top corner and choose another one of the 13 trillion webpages available to you.
  • + 1
 @chillaxin: Actually, you can ride any size tire larger than 20-inch in the cruiser class.
  • + 1
 @Duderz7: Yes, we have that as a fun class at my local BMX facility also... I normally ride 29" for mountain so the drop down to 24" is not bad but the drop to 20" is a bit sketchy for me. So I can relate to the circus feeling.
  • + 1
 @TheR: yeah, i rode my DJ 26" for half a season in the cruiser class just for the hell of it... It was fun but not very competitive mainly because BMX is all about acceleration out of the gate and being able to flow but most tracks have a rhythms sections that are designed for the smaller wheels so you naturally get hung up in those sections... Not to mentioned any sort of suspension your bike totally sucks all power.
  • + 1
 @chillaxin: Wise words...I've been telling my teammates that 29er DH Bikes will be the Shiz and kept getting ridiculed! Now a bunch are on 29ers (from Intense) and I'm sure as soon as they are available they will all be riding them!
  • + 1
 @chillaxin: Back in the late 90's I took a Cannondale CAAD3 26er with a fatty head shock and rocked the 24" cruiser class! I loved that bike.
  • + 3
 @barrysbikes: OMG. I had a 1997 F2000 with the CAAD 3 frame and Fatty SL. ABSOLUTE WEAPON that bike was! It had everything. Magura brakes, Mavic rims with the milled braking surface, and I even changed the stem for the super short 90mm one with about 40 degree rise!
  • + 2
 @barrysbikes: Yes, you had the foresight to understand the physics behind the larger wheel. It is human nature to refuse to adapt till they cannot keep up anymore, then adoption occurs. But the fight will continue until the dominance is evident...
  • + 2
 @jaame: Yep, mine had superlight Rolf Dolomite wheels that never needed truing the whole time I had them!
  • + 21
 The only thing I'm worried about riding a 29er DH is how much the rear tyre is going to shave off my arse.
  • + 19
 It'll shave about 3/4" more ass than a 27.5 did.
  • + 11
 29DH comes with crack wax included.
  • + 1
 @maxyedor: After a couple rib bashers this winter and a few extra pounds put on, I could stand to shave off at least 3/4" off my arse!
  • + 12
 Genuine question, no beef etc. Do people believe there is any future left for 27.5". I have read quite a few interviews and reviews on this and no one has ever really said what it means for the "amazing compromise" wheel size.

And yea I am writing this as someone who owns three 27.5 bikes and has only just recently completed the costly switch from 26. Like I say I aint hating on this or any other new bike
  • + 8
 Still on 26" here. I'm just gonna lean back, relax and wait for this wheel size storm to quiet down so I can choose the right wheel for my next bike.
  • + 3
 @usmbc-co-uk hey brah, shaking my head respectfully as I read your post to reply. Just ride your bike, don't worry about what everyone is writing about - it aint going to turn you into a superstar.

My hardtail which I ride 80% (Honzo ST/140 travel) of the time is a 29er. I also have a 16' kona 153 that I use when I need to which is 27.5.......Horses for courses................. just ride and enjoy it man Smile
  • + 2
 I have a 27.5 hardtail. If it goes the way of the dodo then at least I have a piece of mtb history with me.. my next bike would probably be a 29r. 29rs are just getting better.
  • + 0
 Lets see how the season plays out, I've been riding 29 enduro bike for 4 years now and personally love it, but I don't think its for everyone. Its also not like Fort Bill BDS had 29ers in the top 5 positions, as the pro's get to grips with them we'll find out which is faster, but I can see them switching from 275-29 course dependent, if thats the case 275 won't be going anywhere.
  • + 12
 I also sold three 26ers to buy one second hand Nomad 3... which is going to be superseded in about ten days.

I've had enough of it. I'm keeping that Nomad until I die and guess what? Instead of trying to change my bike or parts to make me a faster racer, I'm going to upgrade to a bigger engine.

HIIT. Gym. Swimming. Giant TCR SLR road bike. Professional bike fitting. Cleat wedges.

f*ck wheel size. It's all about smile size, muscle size and mitochondrial density from here on out.
  • - 2
 its working pretty well for the top mens EWS riders
  • + 2
 It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I've owned multiple bikes of all wheel sizes, currently a Process 167 (26) and Honzo (29) The reason I like the 167 is bc the long low modern geometry coupled with the "small" wheels is fun as f**k. My process 153 was a good bike, but the wheel size was like I was getting the worst of both worlds. With bikes geo getting bigger, I hope we see more 26" wheels on big frames for badass park/freeride bikes.

For anything besides a dedicated DH bike, I don't see why you wouldn't want 29". It will be interesting to see where 27.5 fits in, but I honestly can't see myself buying another one.
  • + 2
 @GruntaNZ: U got 2 best in class there.
  • + 1
 Even if 29" wheels take over WC-level DH racing the same way they've taken over XC racing (and that's a big "if"), it doesn't mean there won't be a place for 27.5" All it would mean is that they're potentially slightly faster for some of the best riders in the world on courses typical of the WC circuit.

For the rest of us, buy what you like, keep it as long as you want, and run what you brung, just like always. 29" wheels becoming dominant in another discipline doesn't mean your 27.5" (or 26") wheels don't roll anymore. And maybe a few years from now, for your next bike, you decide a 29er is what you need. Or not.
  • + 3
 27.5 is closer to 26 than 29, more like 27, so it was never the perfect compromise. But, now there is space left wide open for The Perfect Compromise between 27 and 29.... should work well with 105mm front hubs.
  • + 1
 Don't worry Eddy, I'll be there to pay mere pennies for your perfectly serviceable but tragically obsolete mountain bike when fashion dictates that you make the change. Just like I was the last time.
  • + 12
 Raw alloy looks so badass.
  • + 5
 Plus that bike is pure weld porn.
  • + 8
 Shout out to cesar rojo, definitely changing the game and one of the few minds behind evolving mountain bikes and their potential
  • + 5
 I just don't understand why all the company's are announcing these bikes all at once. It's like they all started developing these bikes at the same time and all agreed that this would be the year they started running them out in the open. Trek has had a 29er Session prototype for like almost 10 years I'm pretty sure but yet no one ever really paid much attention untill this year after Santa Cruz released their new 29er V10 and then it seems like a new company every week is announcing a 29er dh bike. Obviously it's the time to do it because it's the beginning of the racing season but why so many company's in one year? It's not like you can design a whole bike in a month after Santa Cruz announced there bike.
  • + 7
 I think it's more a case of companies starring development a couple years ago independent,y and all pestering fork manufacturers to build them a fork. The fork weasels finally got their production ready castings together for this WC season and here we are, everybody and their brother is jumping on board.
  • + 9
 Fork and tire availability drive the market. Maxxis, Fox and Rock Sox stepped up.
  • + 2
 That a good point about the fork and tires. Has there been a official press release of the 29er Boxxer?
  • + 1
 I call BS on waiting on forks and tires. The reason is santa cruz was first to jump in now all the rest don't want to miss the hype boat. Its funny we will probably never actually know what is faster between 27 and 29 because by the second race most top 10 riders will be on 29 so instantly the field is level again. kinda pointless. Remember 27.5 coming out? most teams didn't even bother seeing if 26 was as fast they just move straight to 27.5 because they don't want to be left behind.hell even rat boy winning on 26 didnt stop the switch. why would 29 be any different?
  • + 3
 @nismo325: Who all is on 29ers? Syndicate, Trek, Commencal, and Moondraker. Still loads of talent on 27.5, Bruni and Gwin for instance. Trek bringing both bikes to a race, same with Moondraker leads me to believe they're actually faster, what kind of a terrible team boss brings 2 bikes and forces their athletes to ride the slower one?

I can't really fathom is all being a "me-too" trend. If there weren't some actual advantage to the wheels, we'd have never seen 29" DH bikes. There was no consumer demand for them, actually they're being largely rejected, DH bikes are a dying market segment that 27.5 didn't save. Killing 26" in DH made sense because the wheel-size was dead in all other disciplines of cycling, no point in keeping 26" around just for DH racing which is just a tiny, tiny sliver of the market. As it happened 27.5 was faster than 26", so all the better. Because 27.5 is faster than 26", then it stands to reason that 29" could be faster than 27.5 if you get the rest of the bike sorted out.
  • + 2
 @nismo325: The teams state that they have been testing the different wheel size bikes back to back against the clock with the 29ers being faster, hence the switch. Will the 29er dominate every WC podium this year? Not likely unless every bike in the field is a 29er.. That part is still up to the riders. The jump to 29ers is not pointless if the times are faster.
  • + 5
 The machine work and welding. Not to mention the raw aluminum looks amazing. Beautiful craftsmanship.
I dont get the same feeling from plastic (carbon fiber)frames.
So nice to see some aluminum frames from Intense.
  • + 6
 Dear Intense, Let us submit names for this beautiful machine and give the first production model to the winner!!! Sincerely, the World.
  • + 10
 M16-9er
  • + 5
 Clearly it's going to be the M29
  • + 26
 Please oh please let it be Bikey McBike-face
  • + 5
 M249 is the obvious choice, but I like Bikey Mcbike-face better
  • + 1
 The Mk19
  • + 1
 Mia:26 ?
  • + 2
 anyone notied the change in the comments on DH 29ers?:

this bike, an all new badass-looking desing, is the 1st DH 29er wich is not hated. People complained a lot on previous ones, people negated the change.

it seems we're getting used to the idea...
  • + 1
 It's the Intense magic. Happened with Boost.
  • + 5
 I wished intense still made aluminium frames in the new models. Not just for proto's.
  • + 3
 Yeah and don't weld them crooked please!
  • + 4
 As much as I instinctively want to hate on 29'er DH... there's a lot to like here.
  • + 4
 Aluminium, for when you want to create a new bike without fuss. Looks great.
  • + 1
 it'll be interesting to see what happens at the WC dh level. I hope the racers practice with both 29 and 27.5 to see what works best on a track to track basis. pretty interesting things going on here. we can't really judge anything yet as it hasn't been race proven. not sure if it will translate to 29er dh sales.
  • + 2
 See Steve Jones questions to UCI. They maybe relaxing the same whe suze law for mtb.
  • + 1
 @fartymarty: Linky? google didn't find it for me.
  • + 1
 There is no reason that with the advent of adjustable/changeable dropouts, shock mount flip-chips, and adjustable angle headsets that a fork with different offset axle tabs is far behind... if the manufacturers are rider-centric they will offer frame & fork sets that can cater to any wheel size and squash the debate most of us face about wheel size vs how many different bikes I have to own to ride everything effectively (and more importantly, to enjoy it!). Big wheel, long wheelbase, low BB, slack HT today for the track... then small wheel, shorter wheelbase, steeper HT for the park all on the same frameset. It isn't rocket surgery, but this stuff is all profit driven. If you build one thing that does it all then you sell fewer frames/forks/wheels.
  • + 1
 Sorry for the early haters.... chrono don't lie... revolution has begun.. like in xc... enduro... now dh.

Simple geometry... big wheels rolls over

Ask yourself why in motocross/enduro they use 21 and 18 wheels and in motogp 17/16?

Many years just to know what everybody already know... but first.. sell useless 27half... and then... wooowww 29er are faster...

Is incredibile that pro's can't have the best to go at top speed... like in F1 or motoGP....but just what the market said...

Remember proto honda with Minnaar????
  • + 5
 I see......... this everywhere Italians....... write......
What's with........ all the puncutation marks?........
.........?
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 @nprace: because this is how we talk with our hands....when typing... know whatamean?




Or it could just be our heavy gold chains hitting the . on the keyboard as we type.
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 @nprace: thinking..... with dots..... helps you..... think better.... and..... leaves space for....... reflection.
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 @nprace: not every one of us. but you definitely have a point. :-)
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 Check out the baby size 15mm axle on the RockShox fork. It does not look like a 20mm DH axle in the first side shot of the whole bike, then in the shop table photo the axle looks tiny. I think they just used a Lyric 29in Lower Leg to make a "me too" 29in DH fork.
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 but 29.5 is better no?

i actually don't mind the look of this but i wish every company who moves solely to 29dh bike production should post an apology for help misguiding people into thinking 27.5 was better for dh than 29 as im pretty sure there was a lot of testing done for this conclusion to be drawn and now its incorrect.....or better still....shhhhh nobody ever said that. just buy our new bikes please.
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 Do the bicycle industry is saying 29 is faster than 27.5 So 30.5 must be faster than 29, then 32 must be faster Than 30.5 then 33.5 must be faster than 30.5 and so on and so on. Why cant it just be who is fastest down the hill On the same size wheel like when Sam Hill was destroying The times on a 26. Has everyone forgotten what mountain biking is all about!!!!
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 I wonder how the concentric lower link is assembled on to the front triangle since it sits inboard of the 2 sides of the shock tunnel and around the BB shell. Interrupted BB shell?
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 Yes. It's the same system devinci uses for their wilson. A bottom bracket sleeve passes through the frame and pivot, and then threads together clamping the frame onto the bearing surfaces.
  • + 1
 Its really cool to see Steber cranking away at prototype development rather than directing things from a cozy chair. The bike in this article really shows that he continues to give a shit.
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 If anybody could've figured out how to do this 29" thing with grace, speed, and the look of Steez... leave it to Steeber. Looks you nailed it Jeff.
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 Looks good. That being said, it can't be rocket science finding the optimal wheel size, and I'm the most lenient person you'll ever meet. media.tenor.co/images/4559420a29b81a2a2549a476280bd481/tenor.gif
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 This one and the Mondraker don't look too shabby and don't necessarily look like a 29er on first glance unlike the V10 that looks a little more monster-trucky. They actually look pretty similar to 27.5s with a small frame.
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 It's amazing how it looks nothing like a downhill bike. It's could pass for a long travel travel bike in design.

(Coming up next, intense dh29" pedals like an xc bike, shreds like a v10 29")
  • + 2
 So they just got their 15thousand dollar highend carbon rig on the road and now its already crap? holy f*ck thats so stupid
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 15,000$, my grandpa would have a conniption, I'm even having a conniption. I guess you can't put a price on some things.
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 The bandwagon has arrived and the $$ hungry bike industry has jumped right on. Cue the UCI rule change.
  • + 3
 Ah sick. M16s just flooded the buy sell
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 Jack Moir is now a legit chance to win the 2017 World Cup overall - and the Worlds in Cairns.
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 How much did sram pay to get that 29er on the page because the bikes in the last picture are all rocken fox 49s
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 29 inch wheels always look out of proportion on bikes to me, I'm not a 29 hater, I just think they look kinda funky on most bikes
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 Dear esteemed PB commenters,
How's that crow taste?

Sincerely,
The Bicycle Industry
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 Funny to see that Cesar Rojos signature is all over the frame... yep, it looks a bit like a Mondraker. But this guy is truly genius. Great to see him working on this.
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 "When they averaged the rider's times over twelve runs, everyone was consistently faster on the 29er rig"

This makes perfect sense when racing against 650b, but when all the big players are on 29 then they all have the same "advantage" which will level the playing field and races will still be won be .010 of a second.
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 Intense made a 29er 951 8yrs ago.....
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 I think it's hilarious about how people are sing the praise of 29er DH and how it's the best thing since sliced bread....do you even ride DH bruh??
  • + 3
 Damn, it's nice seeing someone working a welder for a change.
  • + 3
 Custom intense welds included with every frame.
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 That is a very original design that looks right. Right on Steber!!!
  • + 3
 Haters going to hate.... Intense is doing some great things lately
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 Just glad it's not puke colored...
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 Heavy Metal is back!
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 Why use a shorter weaker headtube to reduce stack height... and then put a riser bar on? Lets get some dh flat bars
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 Thats a beautiful bike! Long live beautiful CNC work! accessing the lower shock bolt looks like a pain though.
  • + 1
 lol pulling those 2013 designs out the bins......Santa Cruz got the jump haha
  • + 1
 In sticking with model names that align with military small arms. M249 would be a fitting name for this beast.
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 If you listen very very closely you can hear a chainstay crack way off in the distance and someone from "customer service" say they'll sell you a "crash" replacement......
  • + 2
 Not sure what is more impressive , the bike or Cesar's mustache.
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 Neither. It's his long hair that takes number 1.
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 Counterenthusiasm? is that a thing?
  • + 2
 Say what you want but, for me aluminum still makes me crazy
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 The only thing i don't like about Intense is that there customer service is terrible.
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 Nothing to see here but the future. Arguments about wheel size, wasn't that 2004. More choices better gear, lucky me.
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 More things on the market means we all will eventually get to do more things to.... and with our bikes!!!! Giggity!!!!
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 i claim this year as the year of the 29ers.....
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 Coming from the garish monstrosities Intense puts out to this, I was like WTF this is stunning, looks kind of like a Mondraker. And of course now we know why, because it wasn't designed by Intense.
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 Why are we stopping at 29? Surely 29.5 will have better rollover than 29.
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 Wagon wheels for the win! This is awesome Big Grin
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 DH bikes with 180mm of travel...better buy an enduro...
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 I think 28er will be the future.
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 I mean long travel trail bike
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 It's not good how the bike industry is trying to force is riders on 29ers in order to make more money.
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 Now make a 26 version and I'll be happy!
  • + 1
 Nice! Good move bringing in Cero.
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 Love that Intense is taking shots at Santa Cruz for having a bike they cobbled together with an existing front triangle when Intense had to farm out all the engineering on this thing to Cesar Rojo.
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 Theres some other protos shown in these photos.
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 let's see how long it takes before santa cruz start using this frame and shock design .
  • + 0
 Probably climbs like a billy goat.. just throw Eagle on it.
  • + 1
 Meh.
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 Thats intense
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 27half is dead
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 Getting Groucho Marx involved in the design can only help.
  • + 1
 And there it is
  • - 1
 why they collaborate with weird al yankovic
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 Oh cool, so this new 29er should be on deep discount by next month, no?
  • - 1
 looks like a piece of shit my 26" crapped out
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 Im holding out for 30.5 ! MOAR ROLL OVER !!!
  • + 1
 They need to rework the tank tread rear wheel system.

Much like the early oval rings they're all built wrong. They're all about grip and fk the turning abilty.

Run the belt around the wheel and a smaller set around the bottom bracket and then you'll get some proper rollover and supple suspension :p
  • + 0
 Hahaha!
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 BADASS!!!
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 Coming soon to a department store near you!
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 90's flashback
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 Huh Gaaaaaaaaay
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 Prototype looks like a cheap bike (2k) however production bike will retail at about 12k lol
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 Comes stock with the tire rubbing the seat.
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