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Mondraker Steps Away from the MS Racing Team

Dec 21, 2023 at 4:33
by Ed Spratt  
Danny Hart foot out flat out and already looking at the finish line was down the track.
Danny Hart on his way to winning the 2016 Val Di Sole World Champs ahead of MS Mondraker teammate Laurie Greenland.

Mondraker has revealed MS Mondraker is no more after an announcement stating the end of its over ten-year partnership with MS Racing.

Since branding itself as MS Mondraker in 2012, the team has collected many accolades from World Cup wins, Overall titles and multiple World Champs medals including a one-two finish in 2016. In its statement on social media, Mondraker states that while this is "the end of an era," it hints at something new coming soon.

bigquotesMore than 10 years of triumphs, of podiums, of World Cups. More than 10 years of work, evolution, sweat and tears. It’s time to say a huge “Thank you!” to the pit crew and riders of the MS Mondraker Team for everything they’ve done over the last decade, and for taking Mondraker’s colours to the top steps of podiums all over the world.

It’s the end of something that will be a part of Mondraker’s history for ever. Frankly, it’s the end of an era. But… it’s also the start of something new. Racing never ends.
Mondraker


While MS Racing has been running Mondraker bikes since 2012 on the World Cup circuit, it has also previously worked with other brands and there is no sign the team is going away for 2024. There's no official word on what Mondraker or MS Racing plans to do next year or which riders are on board, but we will provide an update when we know more.

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106 Comments
  • 105 4
 At this point we need to know what team is still in vs all the ones out!
  • 22 1
 Not so much in this case. After what seems like for ever, Martin Stökl is going to manage a different brand team, Intense if the rumour is correct. Mondraker will find or build a new team structure.
  • 2 0
 Lol Markus got autocorrected as Martin.
  • 22 1
 team commencal for everyone !

+ syndicate
+ YT mob
+ specialized

rest went bankrupt
  • 2 0
 100% thinking this
  • 15 62
flag gearbo-x (Dec 21, 2023 at 6:40) (Below Threshold)
 at this point either another fauxdemic is on the horizon or this is just straight boycot from this years failed racing format and riders frustrations. rightfully so
  • 12 0
 Commencal spec series!
  • 9 2
 @ismellfish: The team still exists. They need a new title sponsor. This happens *all the time* in bike racing. How many iterations have there been of the Quick Step team in the past 20 years? So many I've lost count.
  • 19 1
 @gearbo-x: Or of course its just manufacturers cutting budgets as they are trying to maintain cash flow and the ability to stay trading.

Your imaginative conspiracies are more entertaining though.
  • 10 0
 @gearbo-x: what does (the first part of) this comment even mean?
  • 12 0
 @justanotherusername: hold up. we should pause on bringing critical thought into this and hear him out. let's find out what insider globalist information DH bike teams have on intentional pandemics
  • 5 2
 @pmhobson: I am here to be entertained, fire away mr gearbox, tell us what we have been missing.
  • 3 0
 @justanotherusername: I can't believe I just did this. I upvoted his comment in hopes it stays visible
  • 4 0
 @pmhobson: insufficient head protection.
  • 4 0
 @Maxcommencemal: Interesting, Some were speculating that Dak Norton was possibly transitioning to Mondraker. With this announcement, I wonder if the rumor got flipped, and in fact Dak is still on Intense, just with former Mondraker management?
  • 2 1
 MS is going back to Evil. Going to be so sick.
  • 1 0
 @Planetx888: is Gwin still on Intense? He was the team owner.
  • 3 1
 MS are getting Zerode bikes and there's a new factory mondraker team, so +1 team not -1
  • 1 0
 MS just changes bike brands every few years, nothing really wrong with that. I think it was a pretty big team back when they rode Intense bikes.
  • 2 0
 All racing this season will be done via the commencal spec series.
  • 1 0
 @pmhobson: It means "I wear my underpants on my head"
  • 56 0
 Ms. Intense is what we used to call my ex...
  • 3 0
 Haha, she’s not going to be your ex for much longer. She’s back!
  • 34 0
 Destiny is calling. MS Mongoose is on the rise.
  • 2 0
 M.S. Avanti
  • 10 2
 I heard about this a while ago. I don’t think Mondraker are moving away from racing - the team will just not be MS.

Another thing I heard at the same time was that a well known US team is pulling out. It’s not been announced yet but it may be soon if true.

Loads of issues with Mondraker DH frames last year from teams and individuals.

JP
  • 4 0
 didnt Rockshox Trek pullout earlier this week? Is that not the well known US team you heard about
  • 1 0
 Trek Sram already announced they’re done. Soemthing else you’re waiting on?
  • 2 0
 @mtmc99: shoot. Reading is important. Didn’t see your comment.
  • 1 0
 I thought the rumour is that MS will use Intense frames next year?
  • 1 0
 @shredddr: It’s not one of the ones announced already but it is a smaller company who’ve been a major player in DH over the years (ie not Trek or Specialized).
  • 2 1
 @Jprestidge: I’m sure there will be many intense reactions when the news breaks.
  • 3 0
 Hi guys, as much as we like the theories we have to say, that we are not done yet. we will be back with a new partner in 2024 so stay tuned.


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  • 1 0
 Lol. Yep.
  • 3 1
 I wonder how much of this is down to economics and how much of teams pulling out is down the new management at the UCI bumping up costs and taking influence from a couple of teams (speculation of course).
Riders didn't pull out of races during the season but teams are pulling out of racing at the end of the season, decisions like this are not taken without lots of consideration.
Propain started (I might be wrong) the exit before this season but this off season is seeing a significant increase in team departures.
The cartel at the top are probably not too bothered but it will hit home when teams and riders are not present at races, the fans won't have the same content to go and see and no offence to the cartel, they are 2,3 players out of many that the audience go to see.
I might be wrong but 2024 and into 2025 is going to see the shrinking of the sport, more local series maybe and racing as we know it becoming a niche thing with those top rider values potentially dropping quickly due to the audience no longer being as engaged.
  • 2 1
 I think you’re probably right, but the idea of an international series of bike racing doesn’t seem sustainable. Particularly the bigger teams incurring lots of costs and then not having riders in the finals due to injuries, crashes or whatever.
  • 1 0
 MS are picking up a new frame sponsor (Zerode most likely) and Mondraker are starting a factory team. So your doom and gloom isn't quite accurate. Probably going to be an up and down few season with bigger brands consolidating and some smaller teams/brands going racing for the first time while others put marketing money elsewhere.
  • 1 2
 @MrNally: no offence to Zerode but MS Zerode isn't quite the same as MS mondraker. At least got see the occasional mondraker at a race, zero zerodes. Maybe they will be able to buy their way into a world cup seat, but that is just diluting racing and not really what it's about.
Maybe Zerode will come out with something fantastic that can be competitive and riders will move from traditional bikes to something more niche like a Zerode but I doubt that.
  • 3 0
 @betsie: I'm not sure I follow your point. Mondraker are investing huge amounts of money in a well staffed factory team. A much bigger investment than their MS involvement the last ten years and MS are continuing with a new bike supplier, but likely the same large infrastructure and staff they have at the races. It's a net win for riders, staff and the WC series. one team turns into two big teams.

So I don't understand your point.
  • 5 2
 Brrook Macdonald didn’t have great things to say about the current DH frame, maybe it’ll be to his and Tuhuoto’s benefit if they have a new frame sponsor.
  • 29 8
 I like the Bulldog but he said the same with GT before and it sounds a little bit like he´s searching for reasons for his form.
  • 3 12
flag Vinnijussi FL (Dec 21, 2023 at 5:51) (Below Threshold)
 at this point i d really like to which frame the pros are raving about: so far i ve heard that the intense frame is trash, as is the Mondraker. Commencal break all the time.
  • 10 0
 @Vinnijussi: Old Intense maybe... Dak and Gwin love the new alloy ones...
  • 6 4
 @iduckett: someone brought up Dak changing team and Bruni stating on a podcast that the intense was so bad, that was one week ago max. so not related to the old one. (the old was alloy too btw)
  • 14 0
 @Vinnijussi: both Loris and Vali have good things to say about the Session. Macdonald also thought his session years ago was good, so did Gwin. Jackson and Nina have nothing but praise for the current V10. Kolb loves his AM200, words from his mouth. Neko seems pleased with his bike, and it hasn’t slowed down Asa.
I really like my Marino commuter I had built.
  • 10 5
 @dh-corn: what kind of comment is that? The guy had a nasty crash & was somewhat paralyzed & suffered an SCI a few years back. Competing & riding is bike again is what he’s thankful for.
  • 10 0
 @Vinnijussi: That "trash" podiumed a few times this year and seemed to be running well once those on the team had experience to dial in the components and frame. I'd venture to say it moves pretty well.
  • 1 0
 @RCederholm: havent ridden it obviously, just said that someone brought up that bruni smacked it on a french podcast and wanted to know what bikes pros like - not more too it.
  • 1 0
 @Vinnijussi: Commencal's seem to ride pretty damn well though....

Specialized clearly has a good frame going. Greg doesn't get along with the latest Santa Cruz, but Jackson, Nina, and Laurie do well on it.

The latest GT (aside from snapping in half) honestly seems pretty good.
  • 8 0
 @Vinnijussi: I trust what Dak has to say directly on this topic (a comment of his in one of the Pinkbike article comments a few days ago):

" Personally I think my bike rips, and I got my best ever season on it! Developing a bike for the world cups to race the worlds best is super tough, especially racing guys that have more then one year on a bike getting it ready. I couldn’t be more pumped on things reguardless of what anyone else has to say! -Dak"
  • 3 0
 @ewb0720: I´m one of his biggest fans and followed everything from him during his rehab, but that has nothing to do with that.

Same with Gwin and the M29+M279, he even got a company to change their DH bike concept because the concept supposed to be engineered to completion but you still see a VPP Bike (V10) winning. And in the end the new M1 just looks like an old Canyon Sender with an idler Wink

Don't always take everything so seriously Wink I love the new M1 btw...and the M29!
  • 2 0
 @Vinnijussi: Your nickname sounds like Finnish nickname or does Vinnijussi mean something also in Deutsch?
  • 3 0
 @Vinnijussi: then Dak came on and said he liked the frame. It’s possible his comments were more about the development of a new frame - which is hard as balls. Understandable for a rider to complain about that.
  • 1 0
 @dh-corn: probably true, he was slipping even before the MSA crash. GT was a bad move i think then, the Val d'Isère 2012 win seems like forever ago.
  • 2 0
 @Vinnijussi: Interesting, didn't catch that. I've listened to Dak and Gwin on multiple podcasts and they both seem to love the latest 6-bar version. A strong turn from the flawed bike (Carbon M29?) that Neko rode in his last year with Intense.
  • 2 0
 @JAK79: names of my sons
  • 2 0
 @iduckett: thefirst alloy version also looked wild, the new one looks good and almost like old intense frames
  • 1 0
 @ridedigrepeat: the commencal is great and it’s already yielded excellent results. Not sure what people are talking about.
  • 2 0
 @SnowshoeRider4Life: He was so close to win Losinj in 2018 until his crash. His form and motivation was on point and I guess his career would have been more succesfull without that unlucky mistake.
  • 5 4
 20 years of QE and bad monetary policy (all central banks) because of being afraid of the kondratiev recessions means a bigger bubble less frequently. I think the cheap money is running out. It’s hard for people to keep up on their energy bills with out putting it on credit. So bikes and bike teams could be the proverbial canary.
  • 1 0
 It seems possible and likely MS will partner with Intense after the Intense Factory Team folded. The man behind MS has his sights set on the land speed record on Intense has been making some great frames for their team the past few years.
  • 2 2
 Time to check out the return on investment, since the money is stuck in inventory and people don't buy bikes.
Teams closing and leaving racing speak volumes about how "win it on Sunday sell it on Monday" has always been utter BS.
  • 2 1
 This 100% - race support will always be cut when times get tough, especially as DH bikes sell like absolute crap in comparison to 'normal' bikes.
  • 2 0
 there's no team leaving. MS are continuing with a new bike supplier and Mondraker are starting a FACTORY team
  • 3 2
 World Cup racing =
6 men racing
3 Women racing
All other teams have jumped ship lol

Look like the same for enduro too

Not much news about XC teams I presume they are all still in the game
  • 3 0
 Intense MS Racing? GT MS Racing?
  • 3 0
 Wih Flo P getting 3rd. - it was a 1,2,3 Mondraker sweep.
  • 2 0
 Was going to say the same thing.
  • 3 0
 Wasn't it MS intense years ago ?
  • 4 0
 What is MS?
  • 6 1
 Michael Schumacher
  • 1 1
 Multiple Scrotusis
  • 2 1
 Myopic Shortsightedness
  • 4 0
 Malcom Smith, founder of MS Racing.
  • 2 1
 Much Sponsormoney
  • 1 0
 Not really following these kinds of updates with 100% attention.
It seems like Enduro and Downhill are taking a lot of casualties. Is XC sustaining the same kind of damage?
  • 1 0
 The old frame is tons better than the current one which is shit that's why Mondraker paying Dunne a shed load to ride it hahahahaahah
  • 4 1
 Martin Out-of-Stockl
  • 2 0
 Mondraker Hart racing. Get the lad back on the brand.
  • 3 1
 Damn. So many DHers going to have to get real jobs in 2024.
  • 6 1
 They might have to learn riding uphill
  • 1 0
 Soon it will just be Trek and Specialized heading it out if this stuff don’t quit!
  • 2 0
 Lets go Bulldog on a new rig !!!
  • 16 16
 Welp. Downhill is now officially back to being an amateur grassroots sport.
  • 6 0
 MS the team is not leaving......
  • 8 0
 @trek240: yup, allegedly it’s gonna be MS intense.
  • 4 0
 Wahoo! Can't wait to see Bruni shotgun a beer before his world champs run!
  • 2 0
 MS + GT frames
  • 3 1
 Intense news
  • 1 0
 Markus' name is Markus, not Martin
  • 1 0
 He corrected it just after he posted
  • 2 0
 Welcome MS Intense
  • 1 2
 i knew the bike industry wasn't doing well and that the Discovery deal was going to have a negative effect on racing, but this is getting ridiculous.
  • 1 0
 Naptimes 2024 predictions Freeride is EVERYTINGS!!!!
  • 1 0
 Mondraker will continue with another team
  • 2 1
 Pretty soon there will be no one for Discovery to broadcast.
  • 1 0
 2016 - good times. Shorts in DH - not Yoga pants as nowadays Big Grin
  • 1 0
 MS Zerode?
Gearbox NZ dh bike coming back?
  • 1 1
 MS Commencal next year then
  • 8 1
 Nah, Dorval Mondraker
  • 2 1
 Intense.
  • 1 1
 A 1-2 in 2016 doesn't scream succes to me bwdik.
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