Shimano Launches New 11-Speed SLX Groupset and XT Goes Di2

Apr 14, 2016
by Olly Forster  
Hot on the heels of others similarly choosing spring as the perfect opportunity to present their latest wares, Shimano has some exciting news. Not only do they have a revamped SLX groupset, arguably one of the most popular out there, and offering it in an 11-speed configuration, but they have also released information about the highly anticipated trickle down of their electric Di2 technology into the XT groupset. This stunning new SLX groupset will be available around June/ July and the new XT Di2 will be out around September.


SLX M7000 Groupset

Shimano M700 SLX groupset


Delivering a sleek makeover and high performance from the best pound-for-pound competitive-level mountain biking cranksets, derailleurs, cassettes, shifters, levers, rotors and hubs on the market.
The launch of Shimano’s new mid-range off-road SLX groupset brings many of the performance features of DEORE XT with affordability, durability, and compatibility to make it suitable for almost every type of mountain biker.
2016 SLX prices USD
Provision for a wide range of MTB riding styles was the focus of the new SLX M7000 design. Three types of riders are catered for within the drivetrain options; those who favour a single chainring 1x11 set up for simplicity, those looking for an optimal 2x11 double chainring set up, or those riders needing the enhanced gear options and convenience coming with a 3x10 speed set up.


Shimano M700 SLX groupset
FC-M7000-11 crankset featuring Shimano's 'Dynamic Chain Engagement' technology.


The lightweight and durable 11 speed-compatible FC-M7000-11 chainring (1x11 and 2x11) teeth feature Shimano’s new Dynamic Chain Engagement technology and are designed for the different power outputs delivered in each ring, offering enhanced chain retention, driving rigidity and highly efficient, precise shifting. In the 2x11 set up, close gear ratio combinations ensure a minimum shifting gap between gears and allow the rider to maintain an efficient rhythm throughout the complete range of gears. Set up options are kept to a chainring capacity of 10-teeth with three options (34-24T, 36-26T and 38-28T). 1x11 riders have the option of 30T, 32T or 34T chainrings to combine with two cassette options (11-40T and 11-42T). B-spec options are also available in double and single ring set ups to ensure chain lines can accommodate 148mm rear hubs.

The system solution behind these rider optimized gear combinations is known as DYNA-SYS11, which blends Shimano shifting technologies and designs to allow riders to deliver consistent, efficient power while maintaining traction and momentum. Meanwhile, the 3x10 crankset (FC-M7000-10) with its 40-30-22T tooth profile and DYNA-SYS shifting technology has been designed to give a consistent shifting performance with the most efficient drivetrain and practical gearing for recreational riders anywhere.

The new design of the 1x11, 2x11 and 3x10 cranksets is more than just a stunning aesthetics and outstanding mechanical design. Better bottom bracket sealings reduce water and dirt ingress and increase the long-term efficiency of crank rotation.


Shimano M700 SLX groupset
CS-HG81-10 cassette.


At the rear, lightweight and minimally designed 467g 11-40T cassette sprockets are in line with DYNA-SYS philosophies, allowing the rider to make smooth and precise gear changes and keep riding in the most efficient front driving gear for longer. 1x11-speed riders also have the option of choosing a wider 11-42T cassette for an expanded low end range. Meanwhile 3x10 riders can choose from11-32, 11-34 or 11-36T set ups with the existing CS-HG81-10 cassette.

Shifting on the SL-M7000-11/10 levers is taken care of by ergonomically designed Rapidfire Plus shift levers, allowing riders to downshift three gears in one stroke and release shifts by the index finger or the thumb. This simple but incredibly useful feature also provides light and consistently stable shifting across front and rear gears. I-spec II (SL-M7000-I / SL-M7000-10-I) and I-spec B-type (SL-M7000-B-I / SL-M7000-B-I) mount options allow for adaptable and versatile, rider-tuned cockpit options.


Shimano M700 SLX groupset
B-type shifter mount.
Shimano M700 SLX groupset
I-spec II shifter mount.


Where shift levers command, derailleurs respond. Now featuring at SLX lever, Shimano’s SHADOW RD+ technology provides sharp and silky shifts along with chain stability and a reduction in chain slap thanks to a lockable rear derailleur position. The medium cage 11-speed rear derailleurs (RD-M7000-11-GS) offer a drivetrain capacity of 41-teeth, whilst the long cage 10-speed rear derailleur (RD-M7000-10-SGS) offers a larger drivetrain capacity of 43-teeth to accommodate its triple chainring.

The shifting power of the 11-speed (FD-M7020-11) and 10-speed (FD-M7000-10) front derailleurs has been increased allowing for rapid shifts with efficient cable routing and a light shift operation. Mounting options include Side Swing, Top Swing and Down Swing front derailleurs to offer compatibility with shorter chain stays and large wheels and tyres.


Shimano M700 SLX groupset
RD-M7000-11-GS rear derailleur.


The Rider Tuned position of the SLX BL-M7000 lever allows for smooth, consistent and predictable operation of the hydraulic disc brake system (BR-M7000) and, combined with heat-radiating, mud-shedding SM-RT70 160, 180 or 203mm rotors, you get high performance stopping power in all manner of riding conditions.


Shimano M700 SLX groupset
SLX BL-M7000 brake lever, caliper and SM-RT70 rotor.

Shimano M700 SLX groupset
Shimano M700 SLX groupset



DEORE XT Di2 M8050

Shimano's new DEORE XT Di2 M8050 groupset features wireless customization capabilities with upwards compatibility to the existing XTR components. Adding the increasing accuracy, speed, and precision of electronic shifting Shimano's 'Syncronized Shift' technology, which adjusts your front derailleur and your chain line automatically, the advantages to this new technology become abundantly clear. Much like the Shimano DEORE XT M8000 mechanical derailleur, the DEORE XT Di2 M8050 rear derailleur also features Shadow RD+ technology, which is designed to eliminate chain bounce and keep chains on sprockets over multiple types of terrain, leading to a more stable shifting platform.


Shimano XT Di2
Di2 technology lands at DEORE XT level.

The most groundbreaking technology featuring on DEORE XT Di2 M8050 is a new wireless Bluetooth connection to Shimano’s E-TUBE program, which is the system Shimano uses to set up and control the Di2 shifting behaviour. Through Bluetooth technology, a rider or mechanic, can wirelessly communicate with their computer, tablet or a smart phone via the SC-MT800 system information display and a new battery. As well as allowing wireless workshop customizability, it allows riders to customize their shifting preferences on the trail via an app on their smartphones.
2016 XT Di2 prices USD

Additionally, Shimano’s wireless D-FLY Data Management system will allow riders to see battery and gear information on their compatible third party display devices (eg bike computers). This technology will be rolled out with DEORE XT Di2 components and will be available as an upgrade for those currently riding Shimano XTR Di2, either with SC-MT800 or SCM9051 system information displays and a new internal or external battery.


Shimano XT Di2
Firebolt shifter.


Firebolt shifters are designed to provide easy operation and accurate shifting with an ergonomic rotary action, short single-click action and effortless multi-shift possibilities. The Firebolt shift button placement is customizable and can be positioned exactly where the rider’s thumbs naturally rest. This allows you to shift faster and match your efforts like never before.

The Syncronized Shift technology inherent in the shifters means riders can rely solely on one shifter to take care of their rear and front gear changes. A customizable shift map means riders can program the exact gear ratio at which Di2 automatically shifts into the big ring when going up through the gears, or into the small ring when going down through the gears. Whichever gear ratio you choose, Shimano’s Rhythm Step philosophy ensures that riders make the minimum amount of incremental steps when changing up or down gears, allowing the rider to maintain an even cadence and fluid riding style. No large gear steps, no overworking joints, and muscles, just effortless pedaling throughout the gear range. No compromises, just a focus on simplicity and enjoyment.


Shimano XT Di2
SC-MT800 information display.


The shifters are designed to work in harmony with the SC-MT800 system information display, the RD-M8050 rear derailleur, and the FD-M8070 front derailleur. Not only does the SC-MT800 system information display give a visual display of the rider’s gear and battery level, but it is also the control point for operating the trim adjustment and reboot function and wirelessly adjusting the multi-shift speed and Syncronized Shift operation via computer, tablet or smart phone.


Shimano XT Di2
FD-M8070 front derailleur.


The FD-M8070 front derailleur and RD-M8050 rear derailleur retain the accurate and stable shifting developed for XTR Di2 components. Computer-controlled auto-trim on the front derailleur keeps the drivetrain running smoothly. Meanwhile, at the rear, changes are seamless, even under high loads, on steep inclines or when cassettes are more mud than teeth. The derailleur motors are twice as powerful as those on Dura-Ace and Ultegra Di2 to give precise shifting in difficult conditions.


Shimano XT Di2
RD-M8050 rear derailleur.


Battery performance is identical to that of its big brother, XTR Di2, giving a minimum of several hundred kilometres of power under heavy usage (eg lots of shifting over three chainrings plus control of ancillary devices). The visual LED display indicates battery charge and the LED screen shuts off after a few seconds of inactivity to save battery life. If you do find yourself running low, charging the battery takes around 90 minutes and internal batteries work on a simple plug and play operation so can be easily swapped

Durability is also in line with XTR Di2 components. A sealed, waterproof system means DEORE XT Di2’s electronic signals will stand up to mud, water and dirt from the worst of winter. Plus, with no worrying about cross-chaining, cable stretch, or cable adjustments, your gear changes will be incredibly consistent.


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MENTIONS: @shimano



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291 Comments
  • 363 42
 Well done Shimano. Giving the customers what they ask for, rather than telling them what they need *cough* *SRAM* *cough*
  • 36 60
flag Jhou (Apr 14, 2016 at 8:15) (Below Threshold)
 I been waiting for the XT Synchro shift. As much as I like 1x systems, I'm not a big fan of the chain line.
  • 79 126
flag racecase (Apr 14, 2016 at 8:17) (Below Threshold)
 Really? I didn't ask for electric shifting.
  • 92 14
 @racecase: But you have options to keep using mechanical, so why does it bother you? This isn't going to force you over like Boost and 650b wheels size when purchasing a new bike.
  • 34 5
 @racecase: well you don't have to buy it. they still have the normal cable version. although with a slightly more affordable DI2 mountain system i wouldn't mind giving it a try.
  • 12 12
 @gunslinger13: too right sir. Big huge massive fanfare lots of trumpets,get the bunting out,hooray!hooray!Captain shimano's back gonna save the day..sing it.
  • 20 3
 Been holding off on a new bike because of (1) boost, metric shocks, and too many other crazy standards of recent year and (2) I've been waiting for this product!! Looking forward to seeing bikes the integrate this stock.

Never even have to change cable and housing. Less fiddling with derailleurs too. Hopefully, really light shift action for those of us with finger joint issues.
  • 68 7
 @racecase: I did ask for it. I guess I have more pull than you.
  • 62 3
 I asked for a 75T rear cassette and wireless shifting
  • 17 91
flag Neverlost (Apr 14, 2016 at 9:15) (Below Threshold)
 @codfather1234 What on earth are you talking about? Thinking like this is the reason that first cousins shouldn't marry.

The foolish fanboy comment of the day is getting really old on this site.
  • 33 9
 @Neverlost: Foolish fanboy comments don't get 60+ upvotes.
  • 50 8
 That was a classic response from a butthurt SRAM fanboy who's angry because he can't afford any of the componentry his beloved company try to flog to the industry.
  • 15 0
 SLX look good!!
  • 46 0
 Love the irony, xtr di2 comes out, 'WTF IS ELECTRONIC SHIFTING!' Xt di2 comes out and is affordable, 'Yeah not a bad idea that'. Gotta love pinkbike
  • 15 1
 @liwajavow: Oh wow...you mean I don't have to settle for SLX and can get SRAM Eagle? GTFO!!!
  • 29 1
 Hang on, how is SRAM coming out with high end 1x12 while making 1x11 available at lower price levels a bad thing? They pursue their vision, Shimano counters with their own. These two are actually competing, and doing so with slightly different vision and emphasis. As a result, you can now buy better components with unique attributes from either of them, at better prices. In this case, competition is actually working for the consumer.
  • 9 6
 *** BREAKING NEWS *** This just in;.....it was a joke.....
  • 193 5
 11-42 1x comes to SLX....

Di2 (Syncro shift!) for offroad at a third of the price of XTR....


But...but....I came here to complain. You're killing me PB!
  • 21 61
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 14, 2016 at 8:21) (Below Threshold)
 You meant two-thirds of price of XTR?
  • 25 3
 @WAKIdesigns: No, I didn't. The shifters and derailleurs (I know, not the only part of the system) are well under half of the MSRP of XTR. Well under half is close enough to a third for this guy.
  • 40 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Who cares, because the cassette doesn't cost $300
  • 6 0
 wonder what the german web stores will have it on for pre-order in a couple of months... their prices on pre-order for the last XT 11 speed release were less than half US retail.
  • 2 0
 @powderturns: haven't US MSRP's been lowered since then? I stopped shopping overseas since shimano lowered their prices to be competitive (which is probably what shimano NA was hoping for)
  • 5 0
 @xeren: You are shopping overseas? In Europe? I don't understand. We can only dream about US prices when in market for a new bike.
  • 2 2
 $250 more than slx mechanical for Di. This is insane.
  • 9 2
 @pakleni: There's a strange phenomenon on components, especially Shimano. It appears that CRC, Wiggle, and a bunch of German online outfits either use these as loss leaders, or get fantastic discounts on them. Some of that is OEM component stock, but even the retail versions seem to be available that way. It's been hell on US retailers, as they ended up not being able to buy stuff as cheaply wholesale from their big distributors as what was available online - and that's pissed off their customers. Shimano then proceeded to cut wholesale and MSRP on their stuff in the US - just after bike makers had announced pricing and dealers had placed (and in some cases received) pre-season orders for complete bikes with component packages that then seemed to be seriously devalued. Let's just say Shimano has not been doing a good job at managing their distribution channels in North America.

Funny thing about bike prices - a bunch of stuff that's generally considered super competitive in Europe looks less so for the US consumer; YT, for example, is not all that much below their competition in pricing, despite being consumer direct. So by the time you get a good customer discount at your LBS, or figure in what goodies your LBS might throw into the mix for service, you end up pretty much right where you'd expect for US based brands like Kona or Santa Cruz when comparing similarly spec'd bikes. Whereas in Europe, US brands tend to be über-pricey. Go figure.
  • 1 0
 @pakleni: yep, and @g-42 explained it well, but in short, but the UK and german sites had huge discounts over USA prices up until recently, probably about 30-40% cheaper, and the CRC's, wiggles, etc knew this, so they offered free shipping to the USA if you bought at least $100 worth of goods.

it was impossible to pass up
  • 5 1
 @xeren: One of the things about this that I always thought was really a bummer - LBSs would stop stocking parts like this. I ran into this on a trip to Bend. My Avid brakes needed a bleed; they did that pretty much everytime there was a road trip involved, especially if going over a pass. Found an LBS to do the work, on a Friday evening no less. Yay. And here's the thing - I was so fed up with the Avids almost messing up my long weekend, I would have gladly bought a new set of brakes. But the store wasn't stocking any (well, they did have one set in the back somewhere, but those were already spoken for). As the friendly guy behind the counter put it, they just couldn't afford to buy them at inflated wholesale prices, keep them in stock, and then never sell them because people just buy their stuff online.
  • 2 0
 @g-42: yeah, i don't blame them for not carrying it. and maybe this is myopic, but i don't blame the consumer for being cost-sensitive either. it was entirely shimano's fault for setting up these inflated prices in NA just because they had the power to.

glad they righted it somewhat, but i have no doubt lots of LBS's died before this change was made
  • 1 0
 @bonfire: might want to add brakes, cranks, cassette, and a bunch of other stuff-
  • 1 0
 @xeren: I think you're right. Still, if the euros have a presale going at some point, those prices might be the cheapest you'll see. Maybe if they can place a large enough order they get a further discount?
  • 1 0
 @pakleni: tires are the thing to buy in Germany - particularly schwalbe and conti
  • 2 0
 @g-42: zink wants his cut too, as do all the distributors in europe, hence the price differences....
  • 1 0
 @g-42: but you were willing to buy and the pair they had was sold. Their logic seems flawed.
They wont sell you the pair they do have because they are already sold. Selling brakes sounds like something they do in fact do. So much so, that they had more buyers than product.
  • 71 1
 Wooooooww ! 558 $ for the whole SLX group including the brakes ?! Thanks shimano.
  • 29 0
 I'm hoping this leads to very nice bikes for $2500!
  • 56 1
 That's the same price as just a set of Formula brakes - except you get a full drivetrain and the SLX brakes will actually work!
  • 12 0
 Add $24.99 if you want two rotors.
  • 8 1
 Subtract 40% from online retailers in a few weeks after it's release...
  • 6 2
 I JUST ordered and installed the xt M8000 groupset dangit! And this new SLX derailleur looks much better than my new XT.
  • 7 3
 @hamncheez: Sealed bearings make XT der worth it (to me).
  • 6 3
 what the hell is going on lol
  • 1 0
 I know what I'm buying this fall!
  • 3 1
 @passwordpinkbike: i voted u back up to +1. Don't know who is downvoting everyone. What part of the XT has sealed bearings?
  • 4 0
 @hamncheez:

Derailleur pullies
  • 2 0
 I came here to read about xt di2 and was disappointed by the price. Fuck it, who cares because slx was a total surprise and it looks the absolute shit! Awesome work, shimano!
  • 55 0
 Well.... Hello Affordability
  • 45 10
 XT Di2 for less than the price of XO1 Eagle? Impressive.
  • 17 1
 The Di2 prices don't include a crankset, cassette, or chain.
  • 10 1
 But...it's not cheaper. Going off of MSRP, X01 Eagle is $1193. 1x XT Di2 is $1383. If you want similar range to X01 Eagle, 2x XT Di2 is $1580.

Sources: www.bikerumor.com/2015/05/02/shimano-xt-m8000-pricing-announced-available-in-august, www.pinkbike.com/news/sram-eagle-12-speed-drivetrain-first-ride-2016.html, and this article
  • 10 3
 @durkonion:

X01 Eagle cassette, shifter, derailleur, chain MSRP is $792.
XT Di2 cassette, shifter, derailleur, chain, electronics MSRP is $807

So OK, it's not "cheaper". It's $15 more for an ELECTRONIC DRIVETRAIN. If that doesn't say enough, I don't know what does.
  • 4 1
 @TheRaven: I think your math is wrong somewhere. You're right on X01 Eagle, but the 1x XT Di2 electronics and shifters alone are $772 according to this article. Cassette and chain aren't $35.
  • 4 3
 @durkonion: No they just didn't look at all the options. If you buy each piece separately as a replacement part, perhaps that's correct (never checked RRP). But if you just buy brand new retail MSRP, you get the electronics package (Display/battery/cables) for $299.99. So Cassette/Chain/Derailleur/Shifter is $507 ($506.96 to be precise), plus $299.99 for electronics = $807.
  • 2 0
 @TheRaven: you actually don't need the display. it's optional(even moreso now that you can see what the drivetrain is doing using a smartphone, or a Garmin.)
  • 1 1
 @groghunter: That might explain why the electronics package is offered to begin with. If the RRP prices posted are correct, it's only $80 more for a display with the package price.
  • 2 1
 @TheRaven: Yea... but do you run the indicators on your current shifters? Big Grin
  • 2 1
 @groghunter: No, but they are not LCD either. I like tech. Make that a full color TFT screen and i'll buy the whole set right now.
  • 4 1
 @TheRaven: That's kinda the point of the ANT integration... if you want full color, you buy a Garmin.

I predict that when Di2 is fully mainstream, pulling the display off the bars is going to be the thing people do right after they buy a bike. DI2 display is the new dork disc.
  • 3 0
 @TheRaven: Gearbox, think Taniwha, the derIlleur is dead, its just not buried yet!
  • 34 1
 So 2015 XT components are about to become dirt cheap.
  • 15 0
 Dude, they already are, go look.
  • 2 0
 Shimano already reduced north american dealer 2015 XT MSRPs by about a third.. over a month ago.
  • 21 0
 those excel sheet printscreens are killing my OCD.

2 decimals in some numbers.... dollar sign ($) only in half the numbers....yellow colored cells...border lines with different widths....capital letters mixed with non capital letters.

ugh!!!
  • 25 3
 WOW!The new SLX looks beautiful. Shimano is obviously not following SRAM, at least for now.
  • 24 3
 Instead of MSRP's on Shimano products they should just list CRC pricing.
  • 22 3
 XT Di2? Shut up and take my money!!!!
  • 19 1
 For a second I thought it said XT d12 as in 12 speed not di2. I almost cried
  • 21 3
 That SLX crank is a lovely looking piece of kit
  • 4 0
 Yep.slx really is the sensible choice.
  • 15 2
 XT brakes
XTR rear shifter
SLX cranks
SLX rear derailer
XT cassette
XTR chain

For a little more than SRAM entry level?
  • 16 3
 What's a front derailleur?
  • 6 2
 I heard Sram had one but it died. Maybe it was his pet?
  • 16 0
 I think it is a dinosaur or something.... Deraillereursaur!!!
  • 6 1
 That thing must have derailed
  • 15 3
 Nice! This hopefully means only 2 more years to go till the SLX Di2
  • 6 0
 You'll be waiting a while for that to happen. On the road side of things Di2 has only trickled down to Ultegra (road equivalent of XT) and Di2 has been out since 2009 for road groups.
  • 2 2
 @mckennaa: Ultegra Di2 has been released over 2 years ago. XTR Di2 only hit the market about 1 year ago.
  • 1 0
 @Mattin: I see where you are coming with that point, and it does have merit to it. I do believe the transition time between 2nd tier and 3rd tier Di2 for mtb will be shorter than for road, but at the same time I believe that it will longer than 2 years because of the more major design differences between 2nd tier and 3rd tier components (versus 1st tier and 2nd tier components)
  • 1 2
 @mckennaa: only time will tell. At least there is a lot of hope that there will be an SLX Di2 in the not-so-far future.
  • 1 0
 @Mattin: absolutely, 5 years down the road I can easily see there being SLX Di2
  • 8 0
 I don't foresee Shimano releasing an SLX or 105 level Di2 package. XTR/DuraAce and XT/Ultegra are Japanese made kits where the SLX/105 are their top-line Malaysian built kits. I could be wrong, but I would imagine Shimano wanting to keep electronic among their higher "elite" level packages.
  • 2 0
 @mtnbykr05: it's all just a matter of time and it depends on the competition. After a while electronic shifting won't be seen as special anymore. With several competitors on that field, including Microsoft aiming for a low budget version, it's only a matter of time that Shimano doesn't want to stay behind in the mid-priced electronic shifting range.


Electronic shifting is not much different than how suspension used to be elite class in the beginning and same for hydraulic brakes, where now the BR M445 is even cheaper than Deore and it is still a hydraulic disc brake that Shimano offers.
  • 2 0
 @Mattin: I believe you meant MicroShift. It auto corrected mine too.
  • 1 1
 @mtnbykr05: Slx is Japanese made too.

Deore is the top tier Malaysian.

And 105 Di2 is in the works AFAIK.
  • 1 0
 Well, it's something to look forward to. In the world of shit that is new standards, there is some hope.
  • 13 2
 Light weight 467 gram cassette... Yea I think shimano need to replace evaluate the definition of light...
  • 9 2
 Still lighter than the NX cassette.
  • 4 1
 @ChristophColombo: True but itstill hard to call something light weight when the competition make something 200grams lighter.

Di2 on an xx1 cassette could be nice
  • 5 2
 Name a lighter 11-speed cassette in this price range.
  • 8 1
 @TheRaven: 11-speed Sunrace CSMX8.
  • 2 2
 @captaincrunch3: Still more expensive (XT price level), and alot less durable.

But that's the only one I could come up with too.
  • 1 0
 You could buy full slx and use the money you saved to buy a nice sram cassette
  • 11 0
 Whole SLX groupset for $100 more than a Sram Eagle cassette, sign me up!
  • 2 0
 Just wait till SunRace releases a similar cassette for €70 Smile .

Edit: similar as in range, obviously not same quality wise for that price difference.
  • 10 2
 Please Shimano, could you make 10sp 11-40 and 11-42? The closer steps of 11sp are not necessary for everyone.
You seem to listen to the consumer so...
  • 4 0
 I'd really be down with that as well. I skip two gears almost every shift!
  • 1 0
 @FurryCrew: funnily enough they've been on my radar for a little while now. Anyone actually used one?
  • 2 0
 @FurryCrew: thanks but I'm already thinking about Sunrace. They are now easier to find in Europe than ever so I'm buying one soon.
But I insist : I'd like Shimano to make one.

@ThomDawson: never seen one yet, but written reviews go from "works perfect" to "clearly not Shimano shifting and durability". So that's why a Shimano one would have huge success I think.
Anyway they're not so expensive (40€ MS3 450g and 60€ MX3 390g) so I'll take the risk.
  • 1 0
 @ThomDawson: running 11-40 on a zee mech. Get your limits set right and fresh cables and feels like an SLX cassette, no issues here - also comes in black
  • 11 3
 $557.91 for a complete slx group?!! So that means I can get it on chainreaction for $75!! Woohoooooo, take that lbs
  • 14 10
 dear shimano, I've been a long time friend of your cranks. simply good looking, light and durable (as long as you don't hit rocks).
but why should I buy a crank with a proprietary spider you can't change and no possibility for a dircet mount ring?
like many many times before with your news, that's just antiquated.
and please spec your slx brakes with some proper bolts you can still use after tightening them one...
  • 4 2
 Because it looks sexy. Wolf Tooth and Renthal make them, and they mount with four bolts from the backside in a jiffy. I like that they don't look exactly like Race Face or Sram (although those cranks sets are quite nice looking as well) and that's enough for me.
  • 3 3
 I totally agree with you, if I buy new cranks it won't be Shimano because I want a direct mount chain ring. It's much better: it's lighter and you can't lose the stupid chain ring bolts (you never lose them except for that one ride far away in the middle of nowhere).

Can't believe it takes this long, direct mount has been the standard on BMX for at least 8 years now.

The rest of the MTB scene already caught up in the meanwhile, except for Shimano. Too bad because I like Shimano cranks except for the lack of direct mount possibility. Not the first time Shimano has been releasing outdated products..
  • 1 0
 @Mattin: Lose chain ring bolts? You have bigger issues lol
  • 2 0
 I like the sram direct mount cranks from a distance, but close up they are only 5/10 for quality. Shimano cranks last forever.
  • 7 1
 I would like to see some Gearbox development from Shimano... It's time to move on from transmittions with the techonolgy from the XVII century
  • 3 0
 Will this SLX mech work with the new XT 11-46 cassette? Currently on 11-36/30T Zee/Saint setup and was planning to go to 11-42/32T XT M8000 setup in a few months once the chain dies. Since the news of 11-46 I figured I may do that instead and go with 34T chainring for the 'commute' to trails every once in while.
  • 4 0
 Ok i guess I got my answer. From Dirtragmag SLX preview. "The rear derailleur can shift up to a 46 tooth cog, so riders looking for more range can swap in the 11-46 XT cassette. "
  • 1 0
 still no word on 11-46 gear range... unbelievable!
  • 1 0
 @mfa81: Too bad there isn't SLX level 11-46 cassette, but at least it works with XT.
  • 1 0
 @kryten: of course it will work w 11-46. It says on the tech docs.
  • 1 0
 @BelowThreshold: I would imagine it is the exact same gwometry as xt
  • 3 1
 Not sure how they can make the SLX rear derailleur nice looking, but the more expensive XT one so frickin ugly (both versions).
When I smash off my XT in the Alps this year it'll be replaced with SLX now.

Common and bring out the 11spd Zee and Saint.
  • 3 2
 Not sure about the ugliness (eye of the beholder and such...), but I definitely agree about 11sp Zee. Current Zee is such an unnoticeable (read: good) piece of kit for the price and looks nice too.
  • 3 1
 No, Saint and zee should stay 10speed. They've been testing Saint Di2 for some time now. I can't wait till it's released.
  • 2 1
 I've got the XT already bananowy, its by far the ugliest I've ever used... works real good though :p

Why should Saint and Zee stay 10spd? That makes no sense
Would make sense to bring out a small block DH version, but denying them to the lucrative "enduro" market would be stupid.
  • 4 0
 I never spend money on rear mech usually get zee or slx spec and then soend money on the actaull shifts then if it gets smashed it dont cost alot but you have great shifting because of the better speced shifter
  • 1 0
 I'm thinking a two cassettes maybe for the gravity lines - one DH block and one full 11spd but both with the same indexing as the 11spd of the other lines. Really interested to see what they do with the levers because I think the latest gen levers are a bit rubbish and weak. Not sure why they went with the narrow clamp to 'create more space' when we have less stuff on our bars than previously. I'm not sure that was a problem? And you have to torque the bolts up to high heaven to get them to actually clamp! Good work Shimano but some short comings definitely. If anyone knows anything about the new Saint and Zee stuff please chirp up!
  • 1 1
 @landibambi: 100% with you on that.
Always spec an XTR shifter.
I smashed 4 Zees last year but wasn't fussed because they only cost £30 (at the time).
  • 1 0
 @T1mb0: i usually have xt and zee works great i am in the same boat 4 mechs in now but i dont know how compatable the new systems are for 11 speed we shall see
  • 4 1
 Why should Zee and Saint go 11spd? They are DH drivetrains! If anything they should go 7 or less speeds like Sram DH group.
  • 3 4
 @SintraFreeride: Because they'd sell a truck load more. The DH market is tiny.
Since when were Saint and Zee DH only anyway?
  • 2 3
 Oh no the PB rep police are out... what'll I do. What'll I do. lol
  • 2 0
 @SintraFreeride: they may well not do a full 11spd drive train and go for a 7spd block but they'll most likely use the same indexing as the 11spd gearing of the other lines. Saint is pretty 'gravity' specific (not totally) but we all know Zee is the group that you go to for straight up solid dependability at the right price - regardless of what discipline/s you're riding. It'll be interesting to see what they do with the gravity groups. Maybe the M7000 cassette will be a SLX/ Zee item and they'll put in a specific DH block for Saint...I dunno
  • 1 0
 saint goes to 11 speed with a 7 speed cassette option and a universal shifter, like the front shifters can be 2 or 3 speed. The combo of zee mech and saint shifter is timeless and just needs the 11 speed update.
  • 1 1
 @jaame: Why does it need the 11 speed update? Since when is 11 speed better than 10 or 8 or 9 for that matter? If anything seeing as they are more burly drivetrain option they should stick to bigger spacing between cogs and 10speed to keep prices down. Do you really want an updated Zee/Saint group that costs more? I for one don't. They can mess with the look but no need to create a new shifter or deraileur.
  • 1 0
 @SintraFreeride: I think a lot of people would like to use zee as a funduro group on their extreme downduro bikes. Xt isn't hardcore enough for some people
  • 1 0
 @T1mb0: since always? XTR and XT are Shimanos "enduro/ Trail" drivetrains. Saint and Zee are burlier and heavier, and pretty much only come in short cage for that reason (zee does come in a "fr" version which is a bit longer, but still..)
  • 1 0
 @leon-forfar: Zee is not longer in fr mode. It's the position of the pin on the back of the B knuckle mounting plate that is in a slightly different position.
  • 3 0
 @Olly Forster @Pinkbike You've got your I-spec captions backwards. Left one is is I-spec II, right is I-spec B.

People are already super confused on this I-spec stuff, no need to add to it.
  • 2 0
 So, who's going to be the first to do electric operated brakes? If they can program a motor to shift across 11 gears, surely they can design one tell a tiny hydraulic pump to move fluid. Then, there would be no cables or hydraulic hoses. The sky is the limit!
  • 1 0
 If you go electric on the brakes, you don't need hydraulics.
  • 5 1
 Man, the SLX group looks great and seems to be getting a lot of love! It's hard to argue with high quality components for a reasonable price.
  • 4 0
 XT Di2 better priced then XTR but still to much for me even if it´s an awesome system (tried the XTR Di2).
  • 2 0
 you never know how much CRC etc will end up selling them for mate.....
  • 6 0
 Well this is cool
  • 3 1
 Great news! I am getting one: bye bye cables! And excellent that they stick to 11 speed: hopefully it will stay that way with an 1146 cassette and an Di2 dual you do not need no stinking 12!
  • 5 0
 Woof @ the cassette weight, 467g for 11-40
  • 1 0
 So I have an aging 1x11 Sram drivetrain on my bike. What is more affordable? I'm using X0 right now so a new 1x11 cassette and chain costs what vs going to the SLX; cost of a cassette, chain, shifter, derailure, and Freehub body?
  • 4 0
 Does anyone know if these SLX levers will pull two harder gears, aka saint, xtr, xt?
  • 2 0
 I've seen references of them recommending a XT shifter for 1x setups so I assume SLX doesn't have Multi Release.
  • 1 0
 @S3tigoHide: I've seen a mod on youtube which shows you how to easily modify a shifter to double shifting. There is just a plastic tab you cut off with a craft knife. I'm not a fan myself. I wish I could make my saint shifter single release. I'm always doubling by accident.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: with such large range cassettes these days, double release is essential for me on a trail bike, heading up a rise in a low gear, being able to dump loads of gears at once is the single reason I won't even consider SRAM

DH bike I can understand single shift
  • 1 0
 @graeme187: It would be cool to have the option, like a mode c converter on the shifter.
  • 4 0
 So Shimano's fully electronic rear derailleur is $130 less than SRAM's Eagle Cassette.... Interesting
  • 3 1
 Already went 1x11 with the new XT earlier this year, and with this I'll most likely go Di2 when it goes on sale. I still prefer sram shifting, but don't need 12 gears and would rather get electronic shifting.
  • 2 0
 awsome I've been looking to upgrading my 2016 trance with some slx parts brakes and front deraiulerSmile gotta love those extra granny gears
  • 3 0
 That SLX groupset looks sick! Alternatively look forward to a nice review on the xt di2 once ridden for a while.
  • 4 0
 Is the SLX 42T sprocket steel or aluminium?
  • 2 0
 really happy to hear that, i'am using SLX, and i like SLX so much for quality and the price, and they keep developing it..... shimano answers what we've been waiting for
  • 4 1
 New SLX cranks look so much better than the current ones. That silver and black colour scheme was terrible.
  • 1 1
 So if I smash my 10-speed rear derailleur, does that mean I can run the new slx rear derailleur for my oneup'd 11-42 cassette with my 10-speed shifter and not have to fiddle with re-installing a radr cage (or goat link) to deal with the largest cog??
  • 2 1
 Yes.. The new slx rd will work perfectly on your 10speed..
  • 3 2
 cable free shifting looks like a great upgrade if you have the funds, if anybody comes up with cable free braking i may take more convincing
  • 28 2
 They have, its called Hydraulic discs...
  • 3 0
 @Daver27: i should of said hose free brakes but then the grammar captains out their would of said gears use cables, sorry about that
  • 1 1
 @kwyn: you mean wireless?
  • 1 1
 @Daver27: Got a laugh from me, but you know what he meant!
  • 1 0
 @Mattin: no
  • 1 0
 @SpillWay: I know, it was meant as a joke
  • 3 1
 wonder if they have been working on the back pedal issue when in the 42t ring of the new xt cassette?
  • 6 6
 Why and when do you want to back pedal?
  • 6 2
 Shimano can't fix bike frames.
  • 5 1
 Something I never had a problem with on older shimano, sram or oneup rings in the past, but something just as simple as wheeling my bike out of my shed backwards I can't do if it's on the 42t without fear of ripping on my derailuer. Ever tried and failed climbing something steep and rolled backwards even just a meter? Don't did it with a new xt cassette. It's not just me I've read reviews other people have had the same problem.
  • 2 1
 @jazzawil: Yes but it's not exclusive to Shimano. It's not consistent either. Out of the 5 11-speed shimano bikes i've ridden, two have had the issue and three have not. Neither of my current bikes have it, and they both have the XT cassette. Of the 8 XX1 bikes i've ridden, four had the issue and four did not.

It's a crap shoot because it depends on the combination of frame, chainring, cassette, and chain.
  • 2 0
 @TheRaven: interesting, thanks for the info. im on a unlucky combo then
  • 1 0
 @jazzawil: Mine does it too, my previous did not...so I'm at 50%.
  • 1 0
 @Raffe: I ride right foot forward, try dropping into a right hand berm, putting your outside (left) foot down, without back pedalling. Same visa versa
  • 2 0
 @graeme187: In what berm are you anywhere near your lowest gear? I don't know about where you ride, but in my area there are no berms on extremely technical climbs.
  • 1 0
 @graeme187: True, Didn´t think of that. I do that also but never had that issue. but on the other hand I do not think I ever had the chain in the highest gear when entering a berm. Or I´m just lucky.
  • 3 3
 As someone who is training for the tour divide I'm excited to see the slx upgrades but disappointed in seeing the battery powered mtb future. It certainly makes sense for shorter rides and racing but not for bike packing.
  • 7 1
 I don't see why it wouldn't work for bike packing. The battery gives you well over 1000miles of riding typically before needing to charge it. This DI2 stuff is more reliable than cables, not less...oh and its very water resistant, might as well be waterproof, but then people will try submerging it to test claims...
  • 4 1
 Pack an extra battery....?
  • 4 1
 @takeiteasyridehard: Why not submerge it? Shimano has had a Dura Ace di2 setup running in a fish tank at their headquarters for a few years now.
  • 3 2
 I have found my 11s ultegra Di2 far, faaaar more reliable than any mechanical drivetrain I've ever owned.

I can get about 1500km and about 3 months to a charge. And I always charge when it hits 25%.
  • 2 1
 I'm wondering if it's possible to match Di2 technology with latest offerings from oneUp e.g. 1x11 transmission with electronic shifting and 500% range...
  • 2 1
 Totally possible. You'll need the long cage derailleur.
  • 1 0
 I love the idea of Di2, but even at XT prices i'd have gone through $900 in rear derailleurs the past 9 months. Maybe i should avoid rocks???
  • 5 1
 Shimano > SRAM
  • 3 0
 Who's got the knowledge on the new Zee/ Saint stuff?
  • 3 1
 This makes me want to ride my bike more so I can wear out my SRAM components and finally put Shimano parts on my bike!
  • 2 0
 Damn the price of that cassette might get me to switch to slx from my xo1 cassette.over $300 difference damn damn damn
  • 2 0
 Hell yeah. I'm running X01 right now. My next drivetrain will probably be XT Di2 w/ XD and Sram or TRS cassette.
  • 2 0
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  • 4 0
 50 POINTS TO GRIFFENDOR!
  • 1 0
 You winner, you.
  • 1 0
 Man, how far the sport has come is amazing... I can remember the day when the idea of an SLX level hydraulic disc brake was completely preposterous.
  • 2 0
 Mate, I was around when V-Brakes where head and shoulders better than anything that came before!
  • 1 1
 I have to disagree... I had magura hydro-canties. Far better than v's.
  • 1 0
 @banshee-ripper: Magura hydros were the bomb! I ran 3 brake boosters on the rear lol!
  • 1 0
 @pilatusflyer: lmao good way to make them live up to their nickname "rimcrushers"!
  • 1 0
 On the XT Di2 is, there just one battery for the entire system? If so how is each individual part powered? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
  • 3 0
 One battery, which also is the "brain" of the unit. the display they show is actually optional, & the wireless connectivity this revision brings is available to any Di2 setup if you upgrade to the new battery.
  • 1 0
 Damn you Shimano just bought a brand new S-works with full XX1 think wont need to upgrade this bike and the day after you launch this!
  • 3 1
 And thats why i'll always go with shimano over sram.
  • 1 0
 Anyone noticed that the places of the two pulleys on the SLX RD picture have been switched? Smile
  • 6 4
 Not really that interested in DI2.
  • 2 0
 the battery should be free for those who take the plunge.
  • 3 1
 Those lx shifters are pimp
  • 2 1
 did i just read that right? $773 for a 1x11 ELECTRIC dt?!?!?! ... S–TEC HERE I COME
  • 19 21
 All those who argued with me that Electronic shifting will become more affordable... Who's your daddy? Big Grin not to brag but I predicted the price of XT Di2 rear mech with 10$ precision... So... mechanical units are not going anywhere, electronic is simply waaay too expensive and will always be more expensive than mechanical XTR even in SLX disguise.

BTW - SLX looks absolutely stunning! Crankset and rear mech look incredible, better than XTR. Bravo bravo Shimano! Great pricing too.
  • 2 1
 I literally just bought 1x11 XT ... and I want to try this. Going to have to wait now - oh well hahaha
  • 3 2
 So do you think people will go to 2x or 3x? That is what it is designed for. It shifts front and rear at the same time to give you the next step up or down. For a 1x system, there aren't any real benefits and you would add some weight and bigger price for replacements. I don't see it at all for a 1x system.
  • 1 0
 @oldschool43: I think it's cool because it shifts quickly and for you, so you simply press the button quickly as you can and then back on the bar with you thumb. I think it's cool, game changer for me, no. I am completely satisfied with my purchase- but the bike nerd in me thinks this is cool. In addition- I would like to try the 2x10 on an XC rig and see how it rides- absolutely.
  • 4 1
 But, how can you claim to be anyones 'daddy' when they argued electronic would become more affordable? It is less than a third the price of xtr di2 at launch . . . so, is more affordable. Whether it is affordable for the masses is not the point though. It is more affordable overall.

XTR Di2 2x at launch was 3500 msrp
XT Di2 2x at launch is 1101 msrp

How is this not more affordable?

Also, who said mechanical units are going anywhere?! Pretty sure nobody has ever said that with any seriousness.
  • 5 3
 FYI - XT Di2 is cheaper than SRAM's new X01...which is mechanical BTW. That's pretty embarrassing.
  • 4 15
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 14, 2016 at 9:36) (Below Threshold)
 @mgolder - I would never call 300$ rear mech as affordable. It is hard enough to call mechanical XTR at 150$ as an affordable unit. Therefore neither this XT, nor the eventually upcoming SLX Di2 can be referred to as "more affordable" because that is not and never will be affordable by any means. 2x and 3x systems are irrelevant since they are useless. Shift sync is a last cry of a dying swan (being killed by an eagle - pun fricking intended). Once we stop applying roadie philosophy of high RPM being better, by embracing 1x setups, the front mechs will ultimately die and remain on wallmart bikes with small, cheap cassettes.

Some people went to extents claiming that electronic shifting will become cheaper than mechanical hence they will go out of production. Probably same sort of people who say carbon frames are cheaper to make than aluminium ones and eventually, in not so distant future, we will all ride carbon bikes.
  • 6 2
 @WAKIdesigns: You said 'more affordable'. Check your post again.

Less than a third of the price is considerably 'more affordable'.

Also, to now say slx di2 would 'never be affordable by any means' is just utter bollocks. Who are you to decide what is more affordable to everyone? Then somehow using your baffling logic, you say Eagle is killing shimano? But how, given it's utterly obscene price also? How can it kill anything if nobody can afford it using your own version of reality here.
  • 7 3
 @WAKIdesigns: So then by your logic, everything SRAM makes is ridiculously overpriced.

Face it, you were proved wrong. Just own up and move on.
  • 4 5
 @TheRaven: SRAM is overpriced as Shimano (mechanical) systems show. Word affordable should never be used in pair with Di2. Shimano SLX and Zee are affordable by most of the world standards. Unless you are into general relativity business where one can say that McLaren MP4 is an affordable version of P1. I don't know for whom, even a 200$ rear mech is affordable (price of next years SLX Di2) along with over 300$ worth set of shifter, display, battery, cables and charger. (XTR mechanical, solves that in 250$)
  • 7 2
 @WAKIdesigns: You have to define affordability somehow. Relative affordability is the accepted standard because absolute affordability is different for everyone. For example, when it comes to electronic drivetrains, i've never been in the market, and thus never evaluated what I would be willing to spend on one. So there is no absolute line between affordable and expensive for me when it comes to electronic drivetrains.

So, that being established, less than half price is definitely "more affordable" whether you feel it is affordable or not.
  • 1 8
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 14, 2016 at 15:01) (Below Threshold)
 @TheRaven: i think that XT Di2 1x coming at 770$ vs 140$ for mechanical gives a quite straight forward prediction that electronic shifting will never be affordable... And this is what I ultimately meant. I would not use it even if Shimano gave it to me for free, because replacing the rear mech costs more than buying mechanical Shifter/Mech/cable/cassette/chain... It is idiotic. Just like prices of SRAM cassettes
  • 6 1
 @WAKIdesigns: oh, so now you apparently didn't mean 'more affordable' at all.... Just merely 'affordable'.

Either way, who are you to decide what is or is not affordable for anyone?

Also, you would use it if it was given to you for free. You know you would. It's a no risk deal, it breaks you go back to mechanical. Stop making up ridiculous things like that as ifif it proves your point somehow.
  • 4 0
 @WAKIdesigns: You clearly haven't compared xt standard msrp to di2 msrp have you. You're at least 60 dollars shy in your guesswork on that.

You know di2 won't sell for the msrp, just like mechanical never has either really. But fudging the figures slightly lower to try and prove yourself right is just sad.
  • 4 3
 @mgolder: even if they sell it at the regular 20% off (XTR is still at MSRP in Europe in most online shops) 500€ will still be a hell of a lot of money for rear shifting set. Who am I to decide what is affordable? Sorry for offending S-Works owners. They stand for 1% of full suspension mountain bikes. Have you missed how many people here are whining on prie of anything? I'd rather spend 500€ on upgrading my shock to Öhlins TTX rather than on drivetrain, particularly the most expensive part of it hanging out at the mercy of rocks. Di2 goes into ENVE category.
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Your argument gets more baffling with each passing comment.

Did I say it was cheap? Did I say it was affordable for all? No.

But it is more affordable now than it was before.You just seem upset that your comment (forget what you later said you 'really' meant) isn't correct.

What have s-works bikes got the do with a drivetrain? Or Enve wheels (which there are a hell of a lot of on here it must be said if you look around, so seems to be quite 'affordable' for many really).

This boils down to you saying "I'd rather spend 500 on . . . . blah blah blah". YOU would rather. YOU. Not the general population of mountain bikers, just you and your opinion. You are passing this off as a fact that covers everybody and their own feelings/bank balances. Surely you can see how that is not right at all.
  • 2 1
 @WAKIdesigns: So what it comes down to is YOU feel it's too expensive. Nothing wrong with that. Just consider that the majority doesn't necessarily agree with you. At under $800 MSRP, by the time i'm ready for my next drivetrain upgrade in the fall, i'll be able to snag Di2 for around $500, and I would DEFINITELY consider that affordable. But that's just me. Over $2000 for a drivetrain...yeah that's pretty dang expensive. But $500-800 is very do-able for me. Under $200 for a drivetrain? That's disposable-level to me. That's the drivetrain that would go on my wife's "around town" bike.

Nevermind the fact that prices will continue to drop as the mechanical parts are phased out of the upper-level product. Another generation or two and XTR will be Di2 ONLY. Yes, SLX will eventually get Di2 options. So there is absolutely NO question that electronic drivetrains will continue to get more and more affordable for more and more riders
  • 1 0
 Yea I think we have exhausted this topic. Some will buy, some won't. You can not honestly think there is an objective way to determine "affordability" .... I afford a lot more for my bikes than I did in my college days and I hope to afford more in the future haha. It's all relative.
  • 1 1
 Can I buy the shifter and mech and then program it to work with my stockpiled 10 speed components? IF so, will buy. I hate gritty shifting.
  • 2 1
 I feel kind of alone in being really excited to try out the electronic shifting.
  • 1 2
 IT IS THE TRUTH
  • 1 2
 I've test ridden it, & this group's affordability(especially once we see chain reaction prices on it) may get me to switch. The more cogs we have in the back, the more gears I need to be able to get through in a a single shift, & holding down the button for multi-shift worked great.
  • 3 1
 "just a focus on simplicity"

Hilarious.
  • 3 1
 11 speed at slx....... Thank you Shimano
  • 3 1
 Might be a dumb question, but do you have to run the display?
  • 3 1
 not a dumb question, answer is no, you don't. Furthermore, apparently the ANT wireless mumbo jumbo will let you get the same info on a garmin or a few other companies bike computers.
  • 2 0
 not at all interested in DI2, but the slx 11 spd looks like a great idea.
  • 2 0
 Di2 mind controlled shifting would be nice Shimano- wink wink #idea
  • 1 0
 You don't need the display for 1x, just shifter, derailleur, and a junction box battery unit
  • 2 0
 "Hey Bro! Wait up!! I need to perform a system reboot of my shifter!!"
  • 1 0
 "I got blue screen of death on my display unit, now i don't know which gear i'm on."
  • 2 2
 Chain Reaction Cycles; Get this good stuff in and I'll be buying. Nobody gets Christmas gifts from me this year, Shimano gets all my cash!
  • 2 0
 now the question.... SLX or NX??
  • 1 0
 does anyone know how much this weighs?
  • 1 0
 Love Shimano hahahahaha sorry (Sram)
  • 1 0
 anyone know what the weights will be?
  • 8 9
 £200 for an extra gear and more weight or an11-42 sunrace cassette for £50 and keep my lighter perfectly good exixting setup... let me think.
  • 2 2
 Not everyone already owns something they're happy with.
  • 1 1
 @Alias530: maybe they should have stayed away from SRAM shifting?
  • 4 5
 I have Di2 on my road bike, I love it. Won't go back to cables. But electronic 1x11 on a mountain bike just does not make sense to me.
  • 3 2
 Why do you say that?
  • 1 0
 @DARKSTAR63: yes I want to know too?
  • 6 0
 @Mrstamper @DARKSTAR63 The cost and weight penalty is not worth it, considering it's just for one paddle shifter. I don't need a battery and a LCD display for one derailleur. For 2x11, it definitely makes sense and you get a good return on your investment. Di2 is also ultra-reliable, and puts cables to shame.
  • 2 0
 @Thimk: understood.
  • 1 1
 Can you guys hire some copy editors? The facebook post doesn't read properly, and the SLX cassette is not the CS-HG81-10.
  • 1 0
 I'm digging the silver on black SLX brake levers
  • 3 3
 Nice...electric drivetrain for $700 and 11-speed for under $200. Hard to complain here.
  • 1 1
 Shimano Deore XT Di2’s, looks interesting, price point is fairly reasonable
  • 1 0
 XT DI2 sign me the fudge up.
  • 1 0
 Shut up and take my money!!!
  • 2 1
 This is why I love springtime.
  • 1 0
 Of course I just bought a new 2015 XT 1x11 groupset, sigh!
  • 3 4
 I find it surprising that Shimano just won't let triple chainring cranks die. Seriously who the F needs a 22/42 lowest gear!!!
  • 5 0
 Fat people like me, you fattist
  • 2 0
 @MuddyFoxCourierComp: 22/42 is so low a gear that a) to use it you will on an insanely steep climb where it'd be faster to get off the bike and push and where you'd struggle to get traction anyways
or b) you'd need at least a 36in wheeled mtb (not many out there) to make it a viable gear. Being fat or unfit has nothing to do with it just simple math!
  • 1 0
 E-TUBES WORKS WITH APPLE NOW IZZAT WHAT I READ?
  • 1 0
 Why do I care about electric shifting again?
  • 1 1
 Dear Pinkbike, Will I be able to shift my buddies gears with my smartphone?
  • 1 0
 The preview description says "Want to more about Shimano's..." What?
  • 1 0
 Who needs internal routing now?
  • 1 1
 this is really really cool
  • 1 1
 I like this a LOT!! apart from those spiders
  • 1 1
 many roses for victims of f*ckn marketing in studio!
  • 1 1
 Shimano lovers have so much hate for Sram/Avid. You can tell immediately.
  • 1 2
 I wish shimano would change the shifter and make their ergonomic like sram.
  • 1 0
 AWESOME.........
  • 1 0
 #shiftcables4life
  • 3 3
 I think this is nice.
  • 6 6
 I want 3x11!
  • 13 0
 I want 11x1. I want my cassette on my crank and only one gear in the back
  • 1 3
 @guycharlesvalois: Actually no reason that couldn't theoretically be done with a carbon frame with seat tube offset to one side and a seat tube high mounted derailleur and cassette that threads over the BB shell.
  • 1 2
 @guycharlesvalois: that is a good idea..
  • 1 1
 its time for 13 gears Big Grin
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