How does it compare? The Stumpjumper EVO has 10mm more travel front and rear than the Escarpe, but I'd place them in a similar aggressive trail / all-mountain category, so making some comparisons seems appropriate.
As far as the fit goes, the reach numbers are close, and the same goes for the chainstay length for the size large. The Stumpjumper EVO does offer a much more extensive array of geometry possibilities - the head angle can be set anywhere from 63- to 65.5 degrees, while the Escarpe only has .5-degrees of adjustment. Those geometry adjustments may not be much of a factor for some riders, while for others it's an effective way to really customize the fit and feel of the bike.
Both bikes are on the more active side of the spectrum when it comes to pedaling performance, but they both do a good job of remaining relatively unphased by hard pedaling. The Stumpjumper EVO's frame is lighter, though, and it also has that SWAT box, which gives it a couple of bonus points. The internal cable routing on the Stumpy is also a step above what's found on the Escarpe.
When it comes to price, the Escarpe handily takes the win. The $4,100 Stumpjumper EVO Comp has an SLX drivetrain and Rhythm level Fox 36, while the Escarpe gets an XT drivetrain and a Factory level 36.
At the end of the day, it really comes down to where your priorities lie. Looking for the most bang for your buck, and not too concerned about adjustable geometry or having every frame feature possible? The Escarpe fits the bill.
For those who do want a more refined, lighter weight frame, adjustable geometry, and don't mind paying a little more, the Stumpjumper EVO is the way to go. The EVO's extra travel does increase the margin for error on rough sections of trail, but both bikes can take on similar terrain; there's no reason the Escarpe would prevent you from riding the same moves that you would on the EVO.
One final point to consider is the Escarpe's five-year warranty vs. the Stumpjumper's lifetime warranty.
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The 2021 Trance X and Stumpjumper Evo are both considerably lightly frames, but carry a $1000 or more premium for similar build levels.
It probably doesn't feel maneuverable for all of us schmocks going at lower speed on less steep terrain.
Honestly not sure which is better.
Waiting for the mud on the bike to dry and start flaking, so I can brush/blow it off.
Or.
Adding yet more water to the pivots/bearing surfaces/seals to wash it off. Possibly with some force, and/or with soap.
Both make sense to me. But since this is biking, I’ve chosen one...
So far, I’ve got two seasons on the BB and most of the pivots (did grease a few pivot bearings last winter). But it is something I’m actively checking.
The headset is honestly the one I service most, but it’s also an unsealed caged BB design.
Also, water is not the biggest enemy, fine dust is. Drying the mud and blowing it off maximizes the amount of fine dust to get into your suspension, chain, bearings etc. and make a mess of things. That is way worse than getting your bike wet. Suspension seals can handle water without issue, but fine dust will get inside and do horrible things.
I like to wash mud off before it dries and then I don't need any solvents or anything besides a light (wet) brushing to get it loose. I also use a chain wax so that I don't have chain oil all over the bike that needs a solvent to get off.
And how do you kike it on all kind of trails?
Otherwise agree, many brands are out.
Ok, that's just awesome.
A little! In terms of build spec, the Escarpe VRX lies somewhere between the Expert and S-Works models of the Stumpy EVO. Which cost 50-100% more.
Not bad at all. I guess we'll see what gets here first.
Don't you have this experience with most bikes in this category? Maybe it's time for us to readjust expectations of how a 33lb bike should climb. I am guilty of this as well; have been on a friend's Stumpy Evo that feels light for how huge it is, and it turned out to be 38lbs.
Way to go, Specialized!
Scaling a bike will only save maybe 5-10% in this day and age, while cutting out a middle man saves much more like 25-30%. That distributor is a big line item on the "cost" of the bike. This is why we are seeing bikes at this price point now. It's not that bike companies were being super greedy, it's more a factor of the Internet enabling efficiencies that we weren't able to realize until now when people are finally comfortable making big purchases such as a 4k bike online.
I think the final piece of this puzzle still to be solved seems to just be the customer service component of it, which seems to be the only infuriating part of this ownership lifecycle, judging by the PB comments on YT, canyon etc owners.
Theres a middle ground to be hit.
YT are trying and think in the next couple of years they'll sort it out.
Great value bikes.
They probably have to put up their prices to make better customer service. But that's the trade-off and it's definitely worth it. I've been put off buying a bike from them because of this.
If you buy a second hand bike you can understand the risks involved but you get the benefits of a much cheaper bike. But if you buy new you should get better customer service than some of these direct MTB brands give. As you said it's still a fairly new concept and think they'll nail it on the head soon .
Hey Maxxis, I like the dissector. But it wears out very quickly in the 3c compound. Are you planning to make a 29x2.4 EXO+ Dual compound version? Seems like it would be quite popular. Right now the dual compound is only available in EXO, not EXO+. Thanks!
The nitpicking about the brakes and dropper are great indicators about how good this thing is for the price. "The worst part was that I skidded sometimes and my thumb hurt occasionally."
My only gripe is that at this weight, no aluminum alloy frame. Carbon is fine and I've had no problems with it. But for my peace of mind owning a 4000+€/$ bicycle, I'd like to be able to dump it on some rocks and only worry about my derailleur and/or hanger or a scratch or dent.
The absolutely inane 13% tariff on bikes imported to Canada adds a LOT of cost to doing so, as well as shipping.
Anybody here have any experience with buying a Vitus? Seem like nice bikes, but...
"The small bump sensitivity was excellent, which came in handy on all the wet rides I embarked on, and I didn't run into any harsh bottom outs"
The high leverage Sommet probably comes with a much more sophisticated shock with much more tuned compression damping, and its easier to design a long travel bike if it doesn't also have a long stroke shock
They don't actually exist
Would have matched the Vitus on everything but 5mm less travel in the rear and fox performance w/ dpx2 vs the factory with dps. the Delano also runs Stans wheels and hubs vs the DT Swiss but The Delano has ergon touch points at the grips and saddle.
$250 more for the Fezzari makes it a damn close race...but Fezzari has em in stock or less than 45 days
Would be nice to hear from Kazimer a comparison of that base model with the Mythique VRX, as they are about the same weight and equipment, but differ slightly in geometry and intent.
I mean why S St Evo? Wouldn't be better the Commencal Meta TR29 21' which was tested a few moths before? Meta has the same travel, but a bit more agressive geo.
Or is it because of the "same" material and horst-link suspension design?
ZTTO lever is much better, 15EUR shipped.
too bad the chainstays are too short to be a great flat cornering or climbing bike,
and too bad the seat stay has a stupid kink in it that prevents the use of a long travel dropper for seamless climb-decent with low saddle height.
Too bad these reviews dont dock bikes publicly for having stupid low insertion seat tubes, if people asked for better we would get better.
Funny they provided a image of how far in it goes, but not the numbers necessary to calculate dropper fitment. IMO It should be included in all geometry charts and reviews if possible.
I'm 5'10" and couldnt run a post thats long enough to get it out of the way on most bikes. My saddle rails are 730mm from BB when droppers extended and 518 at full drop.the post goes in 313mm / 12.5" I dont think that is asking too much of any modern bike designed for challenging terrain in a size small medium or large.
I've got a 212mm Nivo dropper that is super light and reliable i'd like to be able to run on any bike, it actually gets the seat low enough to be totally out of my way yet high enough to pedal well; but because of the lack of priority on building bikes with deep insertion, the industry seems to have largely crippled their bikes downhill capability by prioritizing other aspects of the frame design unwisely. No doubt having a seat post capable of moving deep out of the way will maximize range of motion, agility, bunnyhops and ultimately make a more capable and forgiving bike.
Who is "you"? you know their height and/or inseam and preferred seat height?
How about [them or you] just giving us the max insertion depth, instead of saying "Xmm drop will fit"? The stack heights and overall lengths of same length drop on different droppers can vary by a handful of centimeters, and humans can vary by more than that and still be inside a single size's range.
It's very easy to find the stack height and total length of pretty much any dropper, and combined with a seat tube length and max insertion, it's quite easy to figure out what size of which dropper will fit both you and the bike.
433mm seat tube length is not going to work with most 170mm droppers for most 5'6"/5'7" people (bottom of Vitus's medium range), base on me at 5'10" with a 429mm seatpost and a 170mm PNW dropper (mediumish stack height) almost slammed (it fits in the frame slammed, but I like about 10mm out).
M / L / XL/ XXL ready to order and ship this month it says on the EU website. For anyone interested maybe..
Maybe Performance Elite suspension and spend the cash on a better dropper?
You can't just assume the same settings work on different bikes just because it's the same fork. Sure, it'll be close; but different geometries, different rear suspension, even different rear shocks and shock tunes, all can affect the front suspension.