Slack Randoms: Kangaroo Headbutts, Skiers vs Snowboarders & Cannondale Raven Guitars

Jan 17, 2021
by James Smurthwaite  
We use Slack as our workplace communication tool at Pinkbike and we have a #randoms channel which we use to share an assortment of videos and stories from all corners of the cycling world and beyond... We thought a couple of the moments from the past week were too good not to share with a wider audience, so here are some of the highlights.

Kangaroo Headbutts


This video was posted by cycling camera company Cycliq earlier in the week and shows a commuter in a close encounter with a kangaroo. The kangaroo takes a couple of attempts to hop through the cyclist but eventually gives up and heads back where it came without either party being injured.

bigquotesKangaroos really, really can't change direction well... Animal encounters are an important factor in identifying cycling safety hotspots.—Cycliq

Thankfully both rider and 'roo involved in this incident fared better than in this other video of a kangaroo hopping through a peloton in 2016


A Cannondale Raven Turned into a Guitar

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Photos: Radsport Buchstaller Facebook

The carbon Cannondale Raven had more than a hint of the future about it when it was released in the 90s. Its mainframe was built around an aluminium ‘spine’ onto which two carbon fibre half-shells were added, making it super light and stiff for the time. Unfortunately, reliability issues consigned it to history and it has become more of a curio than a classic. Instead of letting his go to waste, German guitarist Sigi Hoga, who has shared stages with Richie Blackmore, turned his into a guitar. We don't know what the first song he played was but if it wasn't Top of the Mountain by 80s British Heavy Metal band Raven, he missed a trick.

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A Classic Skiiers vs Snowboarders Video


Taken from a CBC News segment in 1985.

The Best of the 2020 WRC


If you only watch one motorsport video a year, these annual WRC recaps from The Rub are a pretty safe bet. This one is 12 minutes of insanity taken from the truncated 2020 season.

The Cranmers' Roller Coaster BMX

Click on the right arrow for a video of the bike dropping in.

This Roller Coaster bike has been an ongoing project on the Scotty Cranmer YouTube channel for most of January. The bike has a circular rail that allows Matty Cranmer to do front and back rolls using brakes and his body weight. So far the bike has been rolled around a skatepark but apparently the brothers have more planned in future with this wild creation.

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190 Comments
  • 98 0
 I'm sure they say the same about pro level mountain bikers, but man those rally drivers tread the line of speed and control. That whole video was nuts...
  • 15 0
 Lucky dog @4:55
  • 9 0
 Its absolutely mind bending what they can do. 100% worth a watch for those who haven't.
  • 12 0
 @mi-bike: Yeah, what f#$ing idot brings their dog to a rally car race. It didn't look like a stray.
  • 3 0
 @mi-bike: mad skills to not kill that doggy
  • 31 0
 Any sport where your blood type is on the window next to your name is pretty gnarly.
  • 5 3
 @loamfiend: But....they are human blood types. I'm sorry, but these drivers can't even be
  • 1 0
 Min 11.02 oh my God Smile
  • 2 0
 2:40 and 9:10 definitly feel similar to some friday fails videos !
  • 5 0
 So... Have you guys seen THIS?: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdBuwzRAEAw&ab_channel=jedrek555
Fiat 126p, slightly altered...
  • 1 0
 I always feel a bit in between when watching rally. Somehow like cheering someone on who is actually about to do somehing pretty stupid
  • 2 1
 I honestly don't know if my GF is into cars or not. But I showed here one of these rally videos. We then spent about 30 minutes watching those and Ken Block stuff.
  • 2 0
 @paoloz: 7.06 "Oh! marshmallow!"
  • 3 0
 I wish my VW made that noise when it hit the rev limiter!
  • 1 0
 I'm astounded at the bit around 10:30 mark. He must have already been missing the back right wheel, obliterates the back left, and then check out those glowing rotors!
  • 3 0
 Bring back group B!!
  • 46 0
 The Trek Y-frame is so much better suited for guitar conversion!

Me with an Y-frame guitar conversion:
www.instagram.com/p/BBnLy7CoXWz/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
  • 1 0
 Agreed, I'm working on a y11 guitar conversion at the moment, gift for a friend whos always loved to play.
  • 2 0
 @JarrodB: Kool! I have a Y11 kicking about as well which I've considered converting. Would you consider making a build montage or blog?
  • 1 0
 @megatryn: Sick! I believe this is the first known example of one www.guitarworld.com/magazine/metal-petal-jacob-chapmans-flying-y-guitar
  • 2 0
 @BigLips93: Nope. The one I'm holding is owned by the Norwegian Trek dealer (Trek Norway, formerly Foss Sykler), which is the oldest non-US Trek dealership and was made in the late 90's. It's actually been used for some promotional photos as well (which I can't seem to find atm).

Also, this guy had one back in 2007: ridemonkey.bikemag.com/threads/trek-y-guitar.192921

The one you're referring to was finished in 2013, so it's way late to the party.
  • 46 6
 That video of Skiers Vs Snowboarders remind you of something? LOL
  • 5 3
 I dont know what you're talking about!
  • 11 3
 Those skiers were surely worried that the mountains would be shutdown due to snowboarders. Right?
  • 3 0
 Jim Dangle
  • 26 1
 eSnowboards?
  • 7 0
 Fracking hikers!!
  • 6 2
 Old enough to remember the big controversy. I thought they were cool. Finally tried one and had a terrible time, so stuck with the skiing.
  • 2 2
 @carym: Nailed it.
  • 3 0
 NIMBY-ism
  • 20 41
flag thepoolguy (Jan 16, 2021 at 22:32) (Below Threshold)
 That’s how ridiculous you ebike haters are gonna look in 10 years, good luck with your Flintstones bike grandpa!!!
  • 9 1
 I did not realize that skis have brakes, according to that old man.
  • 6 0
 @Smallbright: that's what the prongs that come down when you come off are called.
  • 1 0
 Wow, you are so right!

"I don't know, they just don't like how it looks..."
"they don't want know new equipment up there.. some gadget or something"
  • 29 0
 Rally cars : "We go faster than eva"
Rally spectators : "Great, we are still stupid enough to stand close to the road"
  • 18 0
 Yeah and always on the outside of the corner.
  • 24 0
 I wouldn't be worried, they are standing behind a small bush or shrub. These are obviously impenetrable
  • 4 0
 The most spectacular thing about rally is the spectators.
  • 7 0
 Good thing group B was banned cos this is way less nuts. /S
  • 2 0
 Well you may notice that wrc is going to different countries with different regulations. You can see that italy, sweden monte carlo has pretty sorted spectator areas, where like mexico not so much. For most drivers and navigators its much harder to go on such rally, even tho some really enjoy the big crowds. But yeah, rally is not F1 where three drops of rain end the race. These guys have to be ready for anything.
  • 3 0
 @BenPea: oh group B, forever missed
  • 28 2
 Snowboard vid: Funny how human nature is afraid of anything new. Still happens all the time.
  • 20 9
 *Cough* e-bikes *cough*
  • 18 0
 Apparently no one remembers when mt biking was new and road bikers were afraid of the punk outlaw mt bikers ruining the reputation of biking. Good times.
  • 8 0
 @Sscottt: I do. And so glad we ruined it!
  • 6 5
 @Mattysville: motor vs non-motor. This is not a new distinction.
  • 23 0
 Wonder if the motorcycle is under warranty?
  • 28 0
 "I was just riding along...."
  • 11 0
 @Trudeez: "...and my spokes went into my derailleur"
  • 12 0
 @Kashima:" ....and the Kangaroo went into my spokes"
  • 3 0
 No worries, it was rental.
  • 16 0
 @send-it-bro: .."kangaroos really, really can't change direction very well" . neither can roadies! Clearly demonstrated in both videos.
  • 18 1
 Jeez! That dirt bike off the cliff is insane. That would have been a long, lonely fall with plenty of time to evaluate the wrong decisions you've made in life.
  • 12 0
 'Can't believe Dave just bought a bike with Super Boost...what an idiot! AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
  • 18 0
 Came for bikes, but left watching a mind blowing rally vid, madness.
  • 12 0
 Never thought I’d watch 12 minutes of video about cars on Pinkbike and not a single one was a Mini..... although to be fair I couldn’t identify the one that had burned to the ground
  • 3 0
 That was probably a Dodge.
  • 2 0
 @JSTootell: it's a ford fiesta
  • 1 0
 @whipduro04: I turned my Fiesta into a Smart Car yesterday (rear ended at 65 MPH). No fire though, amazingly.
  • 11 0
 Why is William H Macy so upset, with those nice fellas were lipping him off all the time?
  • 11 0
 Surely if you saw a kangaroo you'd stop well in advance ant let it pass?
  • 1 0
 BREAKING NEWS: It was Skippy's fault. Replays show the rider was already slowing down but roo turned the wrong way after 1st interaction.
  • 17 0
 Not always possible. They move fast, erratically, and seem to have poor judgement for vehicle speeds, plus they blend well with their surroundings. I was riding fast along a fire road and had a roo jump down off a steep embankment to my left. Had maybe half a second to react - full brake lock. The roo hit my downtube and pushed the bike a metre sideways. Weird skid pattern. How I stayed on the bike I still don't know.
  • 3 0
 @caltife: fair do's
  • 6 0
 Speaking from experience, they can be very unpredictable and you often don't notice till it's too late. They've evolved this crazy threat evasion tactic to bounce away at random angles, sometimes into safety, but often into your car, or bike or whatever.
So you dont slow down and wait as you maybe waiting for 6 hours, then when you decide to go it'll randomly bounce into you Best to cover your brakes and try and minimise the impact(car and bike)
  • 3 0
 I just learned kangaroos try to drown predators and are quite proficient at it. Seriously Aus wtaf?
  • 13 0
 Roos can actually change direction incredibly well, they are about the most agile animal in a dense bush. When you scare them on a trail, they bound off through the undergrowth with amazing precision. But when they lose their way onto human built roads, that's when they get confused, and make wrong decisions. Think of it like humans being pretty good on land, but we are clumsy and very slow in water.
  • 2 3
 That second 'roo's gonna need a bullet to the head. Faster the better.
  • 5 2
 Roos: if only they tasted better.
  • 3 2
 @iamamodel: I didn't think they tasted too bad.
  • 3 2
 @iamamodel: You mean they don't taste like chicken?
  • 25 1
 Roo’s aren’t too bright. And very erratic when spooked. Similar to rugby league players here in Oz...!
  • 2 0
 @up-left-down-right: Not too dissimilar to the English rugby league player then.
  • 2 0
 Skippy, get out of the peloton!
  • 2 1
 @iamamodel: rare/medium rare and with a good seasoning they're pretty good. Gamey but tender.
  • 1 2
 @mi-bike: @fatduke Roo is okay, but it would be better if it was nicer. It also smells a little like wee.
  • 3 0
 I've had many close encounters with roos (wallabies to be precise) on local MTB trails. As others have said, they're pretty stupid, erratic and easily spooked, and you may not see them until they jump out of the bush right in front of you. They are also often in groups, so you might slow or stop for the first one, only for the second one to run right into the side of you. I've had nearly an identical incident to @caltife, riding down a steep fire trail a group of wallabies on my left got spooked and darted out down a steep embankment. I slowed just enough to dodge one, but another actually tripped as it landed in the ditch below the embankment and somersaulted into my back wheel.
  • 2 0
 Aint that easy especially in the bush been knocked off twice myself from the little pests
  • 11 2
 Well, a roadie being hit by a kangaroo is hardly something I can relate to Wink
  • 8 0
 Skiers vs. Snowboarders - "SMART ALECKS". I spit out my drink! OMG! He said that with such a straight face too.
  • 4 0
 The skier v. Snowboarder thing was published in 1985. Yea I’m facing the same issue trying to convince snow summit and mammoth to allow ski bikes. I mean Lake Tahoe allows it. The ski patrol is also making the same BS excuse as snowboarding in the past. “It’s too dangerous.” “There are no brakes” first off, you are sliding over snow, non of those have brakes. You brake via the same way, turn 90.

After 3 years of arguing and even asking the parent company, not worth my time arguing with narrow minded people.
  • 7 0
 ......those damn snowboarders. Hooligans I say ????
  • 8 1
 skis have brakes?
  • 8 0
 If you lose one, the brakes pop down and stop it from sliding too far down. Weird thing to bring up given a board is strapped to your feet and there’s a leash!
  • 3 0
 Those metal prongs that point down when your boot isn't attached to the binding. Called a brake. Keeps the ski from going too far without you if you go yard sale.
  • 3 0
 gotcha.
  • 2 0
 @dump: don't know what it's like in Canada, but board leashes are "like so 2000's, dude" in Europe.
  • 2 2
 @mountainsofsussex: Never seen a board on the loose either.. Maybe snowsurfs, but then you don't see those on piste anyway
  • 4 0
 @dump: On a board, the brakes are usually your sore wrists and bruised tailbone.
  • 4 0
 @nhlevi: remember watching one from a chair lift in Val Thorens. Board was doing way more than 50kmh, bouncing head height along the piste. Scary AF.
  • 3 0
 @mountainsofsussex: I have also seen a runaway board once here in Canada. Very fast and silent. This was a blue run so it was staying on the ground, but could have still mangled someone's ankles.
  • 2 0
 @mountainsofsussex: Seen this too (it was my mate's). But I've also had the same thing happen to a touring ski in a resort (no brakes, leash unfastened). Basically, human error is every error.
  • 2 0
 @nhlevi: I never have myself. I'm sure it could happen dropping off the lift or something or horsing around on one foot. But with 4 separate straps fully strapping in feet on the bindings, the likelihood of complete binding failure and coming off your feet is... 0? In 20 years I've never had my feet randomly detach from my bindings... I think leashes got pushed when step in bindings were first a thing back in the late 90's/early 00's. Which makes sense. They were terrible.
  • 2 0
 @iduckett: Leashes were around long before that. I remember having to use them in the 80's because, just like the guy in this video, ski resort managers thought there would be runaway snowboards all over the mountain.
  • 1 0
 @iduckett: it's not the bindings breaking. While it was a long time ago, I *think* it was someone at the side of the piste who had stopped for lunch or whatever and taken the board off. When I was learning, we were always told to put the leash on first, as I guess once you've put the board flat to step into it, if you mess up, off it goes
  • 2 0
 @shami: Right on. Appreciate you filling in the gaps!
  • 1 0
 @mountainsofsussex: exactly this
  • 1 0
 @mountainsofsussex: Hah, definitely plausible. Enough to give diehard skiers ammunition.
  • 1 0
 I ride a SnoGo .. so I don't have a gun in the fight. I will say inexperienced snowboarders lounging in the middle of the trail is annoying.
  • 3 0
 @shwinn8: I don't even know what a SnoGo is but anybody lounging in the middle of the trail is annoying.
  • 1 0
 @shwinn8: every year I think I'll try a snow scoot or whatever. How do you find it? Do most resorts let you ride the lifts, and is it the same sort of speed as skis (can you ride with skier friends)?
  • 1 0
 @mountainsofsussex:

sno-go.us

not cheap but easy to learn. You'd be on the mountain having fun far faster than if it was your 1st time on skis or a snowboard . I like to email the mountain to verify if they are allowed but most resorts allow them
  • 4 0
 @shwinn8: inexperienced ANYONE lounging in the middle of the track is annoying. I'd also add that skiers, especially very young/inexperienced ones, have a tendency to just bomb down in a straight line, endangering everyone.
Also, skiers tend to rarely ever look behind them because they think they're faster, which they often pair with erratic direction changes in the middle of the track. Some even seem to make a sport out of cutting off others to start slaloming in front of them, blocking their way. But then I'm a snowboarder so I may be biased, though I've never actually gotten into conflict on the pistes I frequent (mostly Schladming)
  • 3 0
 @nhlevi:

agree 100% .. I'm constantly glancing uphill to see if anyone is coming.
  • 1 1
 @nhlevi: beginner skiers *tend* not to bomb down sloes but do *tend* to turn with excessive frequency, created moguls where they don't need to be. You see the odd dude straight lining it with zero control, but that's not that common. A novice snowboarder who tries the same trick will probably catch an edge before hitting the same kind of speed, so it's even less common.
Skiers not looking behind as much is probably more likely due to not facing up the hill like snowboarders do literally behalf the time, rather than boarders being better human beings FFS.
  • 2 0
 @nhlevi: I think a lot of skiers don't appreciate that boarders have a blind side, if they don't ride with boarders, so it's easy for the two to clash that way. But both sides complain at each other - skiers doing unnecessary turns making moguls, boarders side slipping and pulling all the snow down the piste, etc,etc. And let's not even start on the unpleasantness in lift queues/lines!! Frankly, I just wish I could go do anything in the mountains this season. If even do snow shoeing rather than just looking out the window at rain. Thanks, covid!
  • 1 0
 @mountainsofsussex: some valid points and yeah the struggle is real.. Last week I've destroyed my slush slasher in the "half a day a year toe deep hungarian pow" just so I could get at least a few turns in this year..
  • 1 0
 @mountainsofsussex: .. I forgot to say I LOVE IT!!!
  • 6 0
 Did the Kangaroo die in the second vid?
  • 1 0
 YT comments says yes.
  • 3 12
flag Waldon83 (Jan 16, 2021 at 22:26) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah, don't worry about Gregory with two broken wrists, a thick shit stain in his bib and a bike that's warranty just expired three days before.
  • 3 1
 @Waldon83: What warranty covers a kangaroo strike? That's what insurance is for!
  • 11 12
 @Waldon83: Serves him well for not slowing down while there is a wild animal 'running' near/towards you like that. Roadies really should stop prioritizing their Strava recordings and adjust their riding speed to circumstances.

I'm mad at the whole group for refusing to slow down and killing (?) that innocent kangaroo.
  • 3 8
flag Mattin (Jan 17, 2021 at 3:21) (Below Threshold)
 PS: I ride road bikes myself as well sometimes, next to mtb and gravel. But I always adjust my speed to circumstances, especially for the safety of the children/people/animals around me.
  • 6 1
 @Waldon83: definitely dgaf about Gregory.

Animals > humans
  • 2 0
 @Mattin: The kangaroo was actually doing what kangaroos commonly and typically do when scared, and anyone who spends any time on rural roads should of been aware of this. I don't know if it's target fixation or what. They may be cute and cuddly, but smart they are not. Wallabies seem to fair better, and will jump into the bush away from the road when spooked.
  • 3 0
 I've watched WRC on and off for 30+ years and it's only now when I'm old(!) and feeling mortality that I realise just how truly insane/skilled those guys are... WOW... makes us mountainbikers seem sane!!! :-)
  • 5 0
 Chance of crashing at some point in a rally car: 100%
  • 4 0
 Can we get one of those roll cages on an mtb? Then I could smoothly save all my otbs.
  • 1 0
 Maybe a rollercoaster MTB would be better?
  • 4 0
 Ok we can all agree that rally racing is easily the loosest and more pinned thing out there right?
  • 2 0
 had to laugh while watching the snowboard vs ski vid. Jump forward 35 years - different sport, same problem.
look where snowboarding is today, mountain biking is still in its beginnings :-) what a time to be alive!
  • 2 0
 I remember watching the Canadian Winter Rallys in the 70's...the cars might have changed but the drivers were the same...WILDMEN!!!
  • 2 0
 Put the pedal to the floor and let the wheel deal. 5:05 a doubled-over flag salutes a flailing 'copter
  • 4 0
 Wonder how that ski patrol guy is doing these days
  • 8 8
 It makes me angry to see that the group of roadies killed / heavily injured that innocent kangaroo in the second video, by purposely choosing to prioritize their Strava recordings over the safety of a wild animal running nearby/towards them like that. Don't tell me not a single one of them didn't see the kangaroo coming.


PS: I'm not generalizing roadies, the guy in the first video handled it perfectly by slowing down and myself I ride road bikes sometimes as well (but I always adjust my speed to the circumstances and prioritize the safety of children/people/animals around me). But reckless behaviour towards your surrounding like that really gets on my nerves, as well as seeing what happened to that poor innocent wild kangaroo.
  • 4 8
flag Heidesandnorth (Jan 17, 2021 at 5:10) (Below Threshold)
 Jeez mattin, don‘t get your undies tied in a wad... if I would hit the brakes for every critter I see on a ride, I would never get anywhere.
Before you get all riled up, you might wanna check how many roos get killed by bicyclists. I bet it is a teensy number compared to roos getting wasted by cars.
And the biker gets his share of hurt as well.
  • 6 2
 It's not about the numbers, it's about priority. The safety of your surrounding is far more important than your stupid Strava times.

It's becoming a bigger and bigger problem with many cyclists / "Stravathletes".
  • 2 2
 Mate, I'm assuming you've never been to Australia? You have to learn to live with the roo risk, if you slowed or stopped everytime you see them (in some areas) you wouldn't get anywhere. I drive very slowly (painfully) and have hit four roos in three years on a certain stretch of road, they are on that stretch at dusk/dawn every single day. You have to run the gauntlet each time. Most Aussies just get a big old bumper bar and dont flinch.
  • 1 0
 I think there's something to be said for how well Ford can build rally cars.. they always look so stable while most of the other cars look like twitchy attack dogs waiting to murder their driver
  • 1 0
 It's all in the suspension setup.... Most cars are basically the same due to fia rules tho
  • 1 0
 so whos braver? The driver or the co-pilot? Also I'd love to have co-pilot audio from the one where the driver slowly spun into the ditch. Bet he was livid and I bet its hilarious
  • 2 0
 Anyone else imagining a Tony Baker voiceover for the kangaroo videos? “Kraam!” “Aaaah kirkpatric!!!”
  • 2 0
 Been addicted to rally appreciation videos for years. Youtuber 'Mr M' makes the best.
  • 3 0
 WRC is the shit, full stop.
  • 4 0
 It’s going to be a drag when that sport gets full electrified. Sound of those 1.2L or whatever size engines blown to turbo lunacy never gets old.
  • 3 0
 Disappointed that the guitar isn’t left handed.
  • 1 0
 Underrated comment.
  • 3 0
 F-1 drivers are a bunch of ????s compared to these rally guys .
  • 9 0
 Roadies?
  • 1 0
 @Mattin:
  • 1 0
 Snowboards in ‘85 look even worse than mountainbikes in ‘85.

Snow grooming technology also looked to be lacking. What a mess!
  • 7 0
 Groomers are for boomers!
  • 1 0
 That rally vid sums up rather well, why I don't bother watching F1 anymore. Clearly that dog is a cat on the inside, with 8 lives left to go!
  • 2 0
 Gotta be honest here, 2nd video i saw the kangaroo coming long before it crossed the road, why didn't the cyclists stop?
  • 1 0
 Can someone tell me if Subaru has majorly cut back on rally funding? Seems like most of the cars were Ford or Hyundai.
  • 3 0
 Its depends what part of world you looking at. Subaru is still holding strong in North American championship with Pastrana and Semenuk (yes he now drives for Subaru america) standing on podium most of time. As well big presence here in Canada.

For Europe and WRX its different story. Subaru does not have small and light enough car really to compete with much lighter and yet more powerful cars from Ford, Skoda or Hyundai. Next year Toyota entering with Yaris as well.
  • 1 0
 WRC not WRX sorry!
  • 1 0
 And I mean brand new Yaris.
  • 1 0
 And btw last time Subaru was in WRC as a manufacturer was 2008,..
  • 1 0
 yeah sadly Subaru stopped the WRC program afew years ago, the WRX was getting to big just like the Mitsubishi EVO. AS Toyota company owns a good chunk of subaru so makes sense to spend and develop a new smaller Yaris, but i think Subaru USA is really backing the WRX in the national championship which great to see.
  • 1 0
 @Kurtsee: here is Canada Subaru focus on grassroot guys and giving as much as 10k discounts for cars which going to be a rally cars.

It will be nice to see small sized Subaru,.. even Crosstrek STI (i think you guys still call them XV down there) will be great base for rally car
  • 1 0
 @Spiral23: thats rad incentive from Canada subie,.....i just googled pic of the crosstrek STi that would be rad, yeah XV down here.
The Aussie championship are finally getting better after afew years in limbo, hopfeully more manufactures start stepping up to the plate.
  • 1 0
 Suffice to say the gentleman in the last video definitely needed to replace the lower half of his leathers.
  • 1 0
 My Uncle has one of those Cannondale Ravens in awesome condition in his garage. Super cool bike.
  • 1 0
 They should have got rid of those stinkin' snowboarders when they had the chance! haha!
  • 1 0
 I haven't followed the WRC since the early 2000s, but rallying is still bonkers as ever!
  • 2 0
 ski vs snowboarders.

A lesson learnt(?) for the short sighted.
  • 2 1
 Why didn't the roadies stop to help their freind in the ground (and check the roo too)? Oh, yes! They are roadies.
  • 1 0
 Full tilt, flat out madness!
  • 1 0
 South Park is the first thing that came to my mind with last vid
  • 1 1
 Dom and the Angry Kangaroo unable to score his size on local BuySell - takes it out on Pinkbike.
  • 1 0
 WRC is great, but BRING BACK GROUP B !!!!!!
  • 2 2
 per usual lame ass grape smugglers out on parade and too focused on their boyfriends ass crack to notice their surroundings
  • 7 7
 Skier video...you're welcome. Now somebody has to make the anti-Emtb dub.
  • 11 2
 except snowboarding is actually the harder sport of both to learn
  • 3 1
 @SickEdit: Haha! Even though it was in '87, I still vividly remember how sore my ass was after that first day.
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 @SickEdit: I bet it was a lot harder to learn on some of the boards in that vid. Some nice edges @2.51.
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 @SickEdit: "was" a lot harder to learn. After steel edges and decent binding were adopted I would generalize that the first day on a snowboard is probably the worst day of your life, tons worse than skiing. But the learning curve on the following days is a lot easier on snowboards than on skis. Especially in the conditions on the mountain west, and especially at elite levels. Ice on a snowboard however... *shudder*
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 @Chuckolicious: Couldn't sit through a full movie until about 5 years after my first day snowboarding. Fairly sure I had broken my coccyx
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 The struggle is still real: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwWDMAEYe5c
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 @st-lupo: OMFG! Hearing these people, it’s like their ship time jumped from 85. Why do I suspect they have some interesting things to say about people with darker skin tones and intimate partner preferences? Nah, I gotta be way off base with that one. :-/
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 @SickEdit: I disagree. I've learned both. To get to the point of carving perfect turns on groomers where my tracks were only the thin edge (i.e. not sliding through the turns) took me far longer and far more effort and instruction on skis.
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 Skiers vs Snowboarders has the identical mentality of bikes vs E-bikes
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 one is motorized vehicle, one is not. neither ski nor snowboard is a motorized vehicle. its not an identical mentality dweeb
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 No, bikes vs moped is entirely different
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 I am just curious if snow boarders go around to every skier and say "You have to try this! Once you do, you'll never go back!" or "No, I am skiing just like you!"

I don't care if your ride an eBike. I get annoyed at everyone insisting they are a regular bike, and I have to try one.

(I did try one, I didn't like it)
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 @Wheeeliemann: Nope.
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