X-Fusion Revel HLR Fork - First Look

Sep 11, 2013 at 4:03
Sep 11, 2013
by Mike Levy  
 
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Inverted from X-Fusion

We've been touting the performance of X-Fusion's suspension offerings for a few seasons now, with the Santa Cruz, California, based company putting out some seriously good products that, at least in our minds, rival anything else on the market. Factor in that their forks and shocks often retail for less than comparable offerings from the competition and it's no wonder why we've seen more and more of them on the trails. X-Fusion wanted to do something different, though, a project not constrained by target costs and established thinking. That train of thought has led them to the Revel HLR, shown here for the first time, an inverted single crown fork that employs some unique design points and is assembled in their Santa Cruz facility. No, it won't be for everyone - it's high anticipated MSRP will see to that - but it very well could shake up the premium suspension market in a way that not many were expecting.

X-Fusion Revel HLR Details

• Intended use: all-mountain/enduro
• Travel: 140 - 160mm (650B), 120 - 140mm (29'')
• X-Fusion HLR Damper
• Adjustments: high/low speed, independently adjustable    compression and rebound
• Spring: 'Dual-Spring Air System'
• 34mm stanchion tubes
• Tapered steerer tube
• 20mm 'LockX' thru-axle
• Carbon stanchion guards (not shown)
• Weight: 4.5LB (claimed)
• MSRP: TBA

The Secret's on the Inside

Internally, the new Revel utilizes X-Fusion's twin-tube HLR damper that has consistently impressed us when employed in their Vengeance lineup. The design, which allows for independent tuning of the low and high-speed compression and rebound settings, means that the fork should offer the controlled stroke that we've come to expect from the HLR design, and that the onus will be on the fork's new inverted chassis. The Revel's inverted design is obviously its most
biggest talking point, as well as likely its most polarizing. There have been quite a few inverted downhill forks throughout the years, but you don't require all of the fingers on one hand to count the number of single crown variations during that same time. The issue boils down to torsional rigidity, or rather the lack of it, that can be sourced to the absence of a fork arch that would connect the two sides. So, how did X-Fusion get around this? ''The secret to the whole USD system comes down to our patented Gold-E-Lock system,'' X-Fusion's John Hauer explains. ''Trilateral keyways located along each side of the stanchion and upper tubes restricts any twisting and gives you the most stout and consistent stroke over every impact.'' This is in line with our speculation when we first spotted an early prototype version of the fork at last year's Eurobike tradeshow. A revised 20mm thru-axle, dubbed 'LockX', has also been employed to further improve torsional stiffness, but we're betting that it will be the Gold-E-Lock system that makes or breaks the Revel. X-Fusion is confident that the keyway design provides more than enough rigidity, saying that ''the Revel, with its 34mm stanchion tubes, is far more stout than any 35mm or 36mm chassis on the market.''

The Revel is also set to be assembled in X-Fusion's Santa Cruz, California, facility, a choice that will likely raise the fork's price but also allow X-Fusion to have better control over every last detail during assembly. ''The guidelines for this project were to create the best performing suspension fork in existence without cutting any corners or being held back by cost,'' says Hauer. ''Turns out, we all quickly became very attached to this project and wanted to see it through from start to finish. That is why the decision to do complete assembly by our factory technicians in Santa Cruz, CA was made.''

We'll have more on the Revel HLR when it's officially launched during next week's Interbike tradeshow, including more photos, details on its novel Gold-E-Locks trilateral keyway design, price, and expected availability.

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359 Comments

  • + 323
 The queen's bathroom called.... It wants the gold-plated toilet paper holder back.
  • + 34
 Haha im loving the incognito PinkBike logo on the siding!!
  • - 52
 no, bad x-fusion, you're drunk, go home.
  • + 64
 Im going to buy gold coloured inverted fork.... Said no one ever!
  • + 95
 I cant believe more pb'ers aren't more stoked on this, looks dope, specs are all there inc 20mm axle, all wheel sizes, and they beat DVO aka the slowest makers of suspension to an inverted enduro fork. Sign me up for a gold one its baller!
  • + 373
 Enduro27, we have been in business just over a year and we have quite a few projects in the pipeline. The Emerald will be in production next week and the Jade shock in Nov. Xfusion has been around for years and has quite a few excellent engineers all working on projects. This inverted single crown was shown last year during the bike shows and it looks like they have done their homework and testing which takes time. If you rush you can make more mistakes and piss off customers and thats not a good thing to do. Cheers, DVO
  • - 31
 The only bonus to these forks is that at the end of the season my bike will be worth a lot more, but only because i wont have ridden at all in fear of losing every last shred of self respect i have left...
  • + 17
 I'm sure people are interested in a inverted fork but all gold?
It's not April 1st is it?
  • + 181
 Gotta love DVO, one of the only companies I have ever seen that actually participates in online discussions and adresses peoples concerns on the fly. Top job DVO, if I ever have the cash to purchase a new set of forks, your on the shortlist for sure.
  • + 24
 Did anyone see this and say what the f*ck?
  • + 58
 @TheoSheridan: thanks man, just trying to keep the story straight!
  • + 27
 Yeah props DVO for participating online. I guess why it feels slow moving is just because it feels like there has been soo much hype for so long. That being said you will still be first on my list for a new enduro fork upgrade as I would love to support DVO as a company by buying your product.
  • + 24
 @Enduro27: Thanks man! It seems like a long time too, we have been pinned all year working on our products! We look forward to having ya as a customer. Cheers, DVO!
  • + 4
 I want to lower one and put it on my Dirt jumper if they made it for 26". Although looking at the design would wheel size matter a whole bunch?
  • - 14
 If u wanna be on the pimp mobile cool, but to me it a little coppy cat like, i no imma get neg props like crazy, but its a bad kashima try, and the invert has been taken. Manitou is the only one to successfully make an inverted fork for more than a year even, and plenty of others like rock shox and marz i believe have also done it. It lost novelty and there isnt enough to make it worth it. It has great tech and looks cool, but needs a different platform.
  • + 5
 So I guess the thing is to make an impression with some crazy color choices. Dvo = hulk green, ohlins = McDonald's yellow, xfusion now with ALL gold. Just look at all the people who won't forget this fork due to their initial reaction with the color. My guess is that they have plans to do a black like everyone else eventually, so don't take the color so seriously, its just a little marketing victory.
  • + 8
 ^^^ DVO isn't the first to use manitou's inverted platform. Thats like saying non inverted forks are copying the original maker of non inverted forks.
  • + 24
 @luckynugget, inverted mtb forks have been around for a long time. The main switch to conventional designs came about when magnesium and alloy casting manufacturing became very efficient and lowered manufacturing costs. Inverted designs are more expensive to make, harder to manufacture, slightly heavier, and of course there is the torsional stiffness issue. Hopefully more companies will come back to inverted designs because they do work awesome & its great to see Xfusion offering one. Cheers, DVO
  • - 15
 Its x fusion, and thats not what im trying to say. Im saying that manitou is the only successfull ine, as i stated, many others did it long ago, but as manitou has it locked down, its pointless to make because as we have seen, it takes alot of years to get to the function standard with actusl benifits over conventional non inverted. So yes, you are correct, that just wasnt my point
  • - 4
 To lucky nugget
  • + 22
 wow. im blown away by DVO for popping in on this. HA what if SRAM did that on the expensive drivetrain release posts. HAHA funny thought.
  • + 12
 They took Kashima to a whole new level
  • - 34
 @gombo9, yeah! And ten bucks says he wasnt supposed to and is getting fired fir misrepresentation tomorow, lmao
  • + 4
 Down with the invert for sure, not the color though......gold is to be bought in ounces. But damn that crown needs some help, little rudimentary for my tastes.
  • + 7
 I loved my old Shiver SC.. I would give this a shot...
  • + 8
 well played dvo! marketing to the peeps who actually purchase your merchandise. its quite awesome how xfusion, fox, rockshox all have a product launch, they have no comments or words and you guys come in and steal the show, i dont mean this in any negative way at all. so as i say again well played, ill be looking forward to giving your stuff a go, just for the fact that it appears you care and are involved with your potential customers. it also appears to me that every manufacturer only cares about cool posters and videos and "media camps" to release a new product. your company is out of valencia ca if im not mistaken, and your posting comments after 9pm....way to kick in the after hours overtime. mad props. I wish you guys the best!
  • + 4
 I still have no idea why dvo have so much mention in every suspension article/forum when they have no suspension products available whatsoever!?!? They simply don't deserve to be all over another brands marketing bulletin, it makes no sense at all to me but it does show how much marketing affects people, they're already getting into arguments and supporting a company that has nothing to offer other than speculation and hype... wtf!?
  • + 2
 Quesadilla34,

Marzocchi had the shiver out WAY before the dorado was available (in a single crown variant aswell). The shiver was a great fork and in my mind still out performs some forks even today. BUT all inverted forks are too flxy to be any good in single crown as demonstrated by the RAC and SHIVER SC
  • + 13
 @ctd07: Actually DVO got involved in this comment thread solely because someone decided to drag their name into the discussion. Read the whole thread. DVO was responding to Enduro27 for calling them out on being "slow" when that's simply not the case. In my opinion, it's awesome that they're out here doing some damage control on the morons spreading unnecessary slander on the internet.
  • + 4
 Am I the only one that likes this? If it was less in your face it would look good!
  • + 3
 @ Quesadilla34,

I think these came out way before any one else mombat.org/894Halson.jpg and they worked quite nicely.
  • + 2
 Whatever nerds, I think its killer and just the right amount out of da box(even though not for me)! Thanks X!
  • + 3
 FINALLY a 650B enduro fork with a 20 mm axle.
  • + 1
 Finally the shiver sc is back and still has 20mm axle. No 26" no deal! To much flex anyway with the upside down sc forks. Probably has nice buttery cartridges at least.
  • + 0
 DVO suspension.... WHEN CAN I GET MY INVERTED FORK FOR MY BROOKLYN. U GUYS ARE KILLING ME IT FEELS LIKE I'VE BEEN WAITING FOREVER... I love my Avalanche inverted but after 10 years strong I feel it's time for an upgrade!!! Still much props to AVALANCHE THEY HAVE BEEN SAVING Me for years.... Long live DHF-8.5
  • + 0
 too much hype for inverted forks...i bet even pros can't tell the difference in performance...marketing bull all the way...aimed for sheep...
  • + 5
 @jujurock: We will be shipping product in a couple of weeks! Thanks for the support!
  • + 2
 Snoop Dogg's choice!
  • + 1
 Haha bit pricy for those hahame
  • + 2
 @hahame... actually the mountain cycles suspenders fork came out 2 years earlier than the Halson Inversion, and it also had one of the first successful hydraulic disc brake calipers for mountain bikes as well as the first oversized hub axles/clamping dropouts.

The first generation fork had CrMo lowers and Al uppers, got 2 1/8" of travel from a six inch stack of elastomers, and featured Mountain Cycles Pro-Stop disc brake and a bullseye components made hub with a bolt in 12mm axle with a thread on flange to take the disc rotor. The second generation shaved some weight, introduced the Pulstar straight-pull spoke hubs to the MTB world (Pulstar's flange design has since been copied by basically EVERYONE who uses straight pull spokes) as well as a 12mm QR axle.

1st generation... www.mombat.org/P4150008.JPG

2nd generation... www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/download/file.php?id=23612
  • + 0
 its almost like you need a bike with green accents in order to make a DVO not look terrible
  • + 5
 They made a black emerald dipshit
  • + 2
 @jujurock - good luck with fitting it to your brooklyn its only available with a tapered headtube lol

try these www.kowa-ss.co.jp/mtb.html
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  • + 182
 It's like if a Marzocchi Shiver got gangbanged by the Kashima coat applicators from the fox factory
  • + 9
 made my day. was cracking up for 5 minutes.
  • + 22
 Now that was hilarious!
  • + 15
 Mr.T called and wanted his gold back.
  • - 5
 Yeaaa..., that is rappers grill gold, not real Kashima bronze color...
  • + 5
 It looks like one of Saddam Hussein's gold uzzis. Big pimpin!
  • + 5
 "what is this fork? it is all silver, this will never do. We will make it kashima... ALL OF IT."
  • + 13
 DVO, l wouldn't be laughing considering that the emerald looks like Shrek raped a Shiver....
  • + 3
 @mnorris122 DVO already stated a long time ago there forks will be available in multiple colors. Shreks victim would look sick on my Devinci Wilson which already has the same green theme going.
And as someone already stated, the marketing is genius. I can spot a set of DVO forks within a split second just because
of they color scheme. I love it

Props to DVO I'm right here in Ventura County and cant wait to get your forks and come discuss them in person.
  • + 1
 Damn funny y'all, specially pvrider. Although rumor has it Fox turns you into a unic as a condition of employment, so whats up with the bangin?
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  • + 48
 Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
  • + 10
 Oscar Mike Golf!!!
  • + 10
 Lima Oscar Lima!
  • + 9
 Foxtrot Unicorn Charlie Kilo
  • + 51
 India [space] Hotel Alpha Delta [space] Tango Oscar [space] Tango Alpha Kilo Echo [space] India Tango [space] Tango Oscar [space] Foxtrot Alpha Romeo
  • + 2
 Uniform Golf Lima Yankee!
  • + 39
 @crazy-canuk *Tango Oscar Oscar (Phonetic spellin Nazi!)
  • + 13
 Charlie Oscar Mike Beta Oscar Beta Romeo Echo Alpha Kilo Echo Romeo
  • + 3
 bravo sierra
  • + 11
 banana....yeah...
  • - 12
 What kind of weird Tourette did you people get?
  • + 7
 Wood chuck to gray squirrel do u copy?
  • - 7
 golf alpha yankee [] alpha sierra [] alpha india delta sierra
  • + 5
 My little code name thingy had no little words built into it unlike everyone else's....... GRAY SQUIRREL WHY U NO ANSWER!?
  • + 1
 @ctd07 hah! spelling nato-nazi... the historical irony...
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  • + 39
 I want to run this with my gold rims, gold hubs, gold frame, gold bars, gold stem, gold shock, gold brakes, and gold grips, but I can't buy it until someone makes gold tires.
  • + 14
 You'd probably look as much of a plug as the guy who rides this... i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/downhillracer/pbpic213882.jpg
  • + 3
 Naw man how am i supposed to become josh bender without 2k mm of travel?
  • + 8
 @alpha that is the kona of forks
  • + 4
 I wonder if he knows that didn't Chang the travel at all.....
  • + 2
 That is the best idea ever. I bet some kid stole it then was thinking if he turned it into a chopper no one would notice it was a stolen bike!
  • + 1
 Obviously that picture was on pinkbike at some point. Can anyone find it here? I need context!
  • + 1
 It's alphas link
  • + 1
 But that just goes to photobucket. I want the forum (I assume it was posted in a forum) that it was posted on here. You know, to find out WHY?!
  • + 1
 found it... www.pinkbike.com/photo/213882

so it's not lengthened it's converted to singlecrown!!
  • + 1
 You can hate on kona all you want, but the new operator is fresh.
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  • + 28
 GOLD ALL IN MA CHA... fork?
  • + 1
 You said it best. LOL
  • - 3
 No I believe Trinidad James said it best. And thats probably the first time anyone has ever said that.
  • + 2
 Thank you for that tidbit of information. Such and eye opener. I thought he came up with that all on his own....Lol
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  • + 18
 Change is good boys. roadies are hating on disc brake on road bikes, mt bike guys hating on gold inverted forks. Motocross and superbike forks have been inverted for years. I like the gold it matches my gold chains; p
  • + 7
 Im totally down with discs on the road. Me, i just dont care for the aesthetics of single crown inverted forks. I really like the gold however
  • + 3
 hydraulic rim brakes for road, hydraulic disc for cross (probs still going to stick with canti's anyway so I can pretend I'm bart wellens) that is all, but the single crown inverted should look a lot better when the carbon protection comes on
  • + 5
 I'm glad they are thinking outside the box. Maybe they can apply the rigidity tech to existing forks so they can be stiffer while being lighter... Looking at my non-inverted lowers on both my DH/AM bikes though, they're probably the most scratched parts of the entire bike. I've been wanting to purchase a dorado but I really don't trust myself with inverted stanchions...
  • + 2
 Stanchion guards really do stop the whole dead stanchion issue, Go find an old shiver, as long as it never had the guards removed they are fine. Stiffness is the reason inverted forks have come and gone already.
  • + 2
 True story. I've been riding a Shiver for 10 years, and the stations are still pristine.
  • + 2
 Alright, thanks for the feedback.
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  • + 16
 I'm teetering on liking this. Black it out and I'm throwing cash at X-fusion.
  • + 8
 Same here, black with gold would be a killer look for this fork
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  • + 14
 Damn, now all the 650b and 29r riders are going to have to buy new hubs with 20mm axles!!! :-@ ahaha
  • + 1
 Can't wait to go to RM and read how many 15QR haters will praise this fork...
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  • + 12
 If I owned a 6 inch bike that wold be the fork on it, good job xfuision looks great!
  • + 1
 Fortunately for me, I own a 6 inch bike and I was looking forward to this fork since I saw the prototype. Wondering how much will it cost.
  • + 1
 Hopefully it will give fox and rockshox a kick in the pants!
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  • + 8
 Huh....I see a pretty innovative piece of equipment there. I also see a lot of comments regarding the color. What are you, a bunch of image conscious, teenage girls? Probably the same girls that whined about the Ohlins shock being yellow in the 2014 Specialized Demo and Enduro, too. Has it occured to anyone that the production version may not be gold? *facepalm*
  • + 4
 Ride it gold until the first rebuild. When its all apart, paint or anodize it whatever color you want. I think it looks cool as shit gold tho.
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  • + 6
 I like the idea of a machine shop and hand assembly of a quality product locally. Most likely though - ready parts imported and QC in the US...

Torsional stiffness, x,y will depend on how well the 20mm axle and clamping and keyrace can replace the missing arch. Keyrace needs to be really hardwearing and stay extra clean to work properly for a while. Also beefy - 10% overload and the race is wrecked - keyrace likes to go up and down - without sideloads.

Cool concept, good looking elegant product. Enough stiffness for light trail work.

As for price - 1h extra assembly time and qc should translate to a product 100$ above the competitions. If they dont get to greedy - winner.

Not sure about the color and colorkeyed knobs. Replace stickers with nice stamped badges.
  • + 1
 Time will tell for sure, but a torque wrench may be mandatory for this bad boy. Unless then integrate an axle thread stop so you hit the same tension every time. You brought up a good point about the key race tho. I wonder what destructive testing they did on those components and how they will keep them lubed. I imagine grease is best in an application such as that
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  • + 8
 Gold E Locks, omg. A dual crown would look better in all the gold. I personally dont care for the looks but l bet it works really well though
  • - 1
 Keyed stanchions for inverted single crowns isn't actually new. Halson Inversion forks used that method essentially twenty years ago.
  • + 1
 I think the Name is cute :-)
  • + 18
 Deeeight)
I don't always comment on pinkbike posts......

Just kidding, I always do.
  • + 11
 They stole my name! =P
  • + 4
 Just stealth black. Nothing more necessary. I dig black.
  • + 4
 I used to really value Deeeight's posts as he is clearly very knowledgeable about bikes. Then he compared the wheel size debate to segregation. Sorry D, that really makes it hard to take your comments seriously anymore.
  • + 1
 That's your choice. I choose not to take comments from anyone who's dead against any wheel sizes other than 26ers seriously either.
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  • + 9
 You gotta be kidding me!!! That thing has .... got potential!!
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  • + 9
 looks sick, i love invert single crowns, they look so rad!
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  • + 8
 20 mil thru axel. 4.5 pounds. I like it! I own a shiver. so I am biased.
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  • + 7
 Should have fork guards on it IN BLACK.... to break up the colour!
  • + 8
 "carbon stanchion guards not shown"
  • + 4
 See thats the pic that should have been posted.... it looks 50× better, id consider buying them now Beer
  • + 1
 Thanks, Jester. Those guards round out the appearance quite nicely. I'm eager to give these a try.
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  • + 3
 Guys.. Stop with the bashing! OK, so the gold is a bit fly.. But I'm sure it will come in more colours.. And the concept is awesome.. Basically, its using the same concept at a Lefty.. One of the stiffest forks out there, and it only has one side! And we all know the other benefits of inverted forks.. Plus X-Fusions damping and springs are well proven..
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  • + 5
 The internals are like a lefty from cannondale glued at a "righty" to have a whole fork... It should be stiff enough!
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  • + 2
 @DVO Suspension.... Your credentials in the suspension game should be enough for anyone to want your products... You guys have been in the game, since before the game... Working at places like Answer and Marzocchi... You are the gurus and we all bow to you...
  • + 6
 They still aren't going to send you a free fork
  • + 1
 Thanks scottlink: yes we have been in the bike business before suspension came on the scene and thanks for kind words! Cheers, DVO
  • + 3
 Maybe a serious discount is in order!
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  • + 2
 Why is it that all the new forks coming out are all for the booming all mountain scene but us freeriders are still looking for the ultimate 180mm travel sc fork. Hoping manitou comes out with one soon like the Travis but with dorado internals.
  • + 1
 That came out years ago. Rockshox totem.
  • + 1
 Totems are garbage.
  • + 1
 You kidding me? Hahaha. You mean the damper that has been fueling the top DH WC racer's for years is garbage?! Only thing better would be bladder technology. Couldn't imagine how a freerider would ever need anything more than a totem coil.
  • + 1
 The damper is fine but the seals are too loose, piss oil, creaky crowns etc. I hated mine.
  • + 1
 I had a creaky crown and they gave me a whole new fork. Never had any problems with mine. What people thought was pissing seals, was actually not. It wasn't the seals, it was the bushings. It was designed that way to reduce stiction with 40mm stanchions. Pissing seals are when the oil leaks down the leg of the fork, not leftover oil on the stanchions. Still my favorite fork that I ever had (Older Marz 66, Fox 40, Boxxer, Dorado, Revelation). The new Pike feels better, but I don't see them putting that in a 180mm fork these days.
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  • + 2
 Why would they put the stanchions in a vulnerable position like that?!- look at the bottom of your existing forks....most of them will have some scratches around the front axle- first thing to make contact in tight, rocks terrain.....serious design flaw on X-fusions behalf.
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  • + 2
 Possibly offset might affect handling, personall love the extra 10mm anyway, 20mm tick, I have a Vector Air, its possibly the best shock Ive ridden and Ive ridden and owned pretty much most including CCDBs, I know its killer on my bike up and down XF definiely have the dampening dialled, so this has me excited, always wanted an Inverted fork on an MTB bike. Common guys give the DVO boys a chance eh. Just been fling 5 minutes and def be worth the wait. I am a huge XF fan though too, just great to have other options that are leading edge and performing and thinking fresh! XF is also easy to self service tune etc. Props guys sure it will get a little more refined by time it comes to market, personally I'll pay for it if its easy to self service self tuneable and performs for riders who push hard.
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  • + 6
 Aaaaaaah my eyes!!!!
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  • + 1
 Although it looks _hideous_ it may be the answer to my hate of 15mm axles. I don't get one thing: why U can't have 20mm axle unless U have inverted fork.

The appearance is tragic but big roll of black electric tape will get the job done Smile
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  • + 4
 I will buy this just to say "I bought that!" in 5 years.

First world problems...
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  • + 1
 For all the Gold haters out there. You realize that it is retarded easy to make a pattern from paper and have any Moto type decal company make you any color fork decal wrap to alter the image of a large round tube (Revel upper).
Which is what I will do when my forks get here. Get over the color. It is all in how it rides.
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  • + 2
 As usual, all I care about is if they will 1) sell me parts and 2) give factory specifications (oil levels, etc.) so my fork never needs a two-week vacation to Santa Cruz without me...
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  • + 2
 I think its going to be a great fork and X-fusion is headed in good direction with this. Its awesome to see mtb evolve more and more but not so much the price tag that comes with it :/
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 This fork may be what I was looking for personally, unless something else hits the market that is more appealing. All the manufacturers have gotten away from 20mm thru axle on 29" wheeled options which worked me into a bit of a corner as all my mountain bikes (Lenz Sport Leviathan w/ RS Reba RLT Ti 29 and Canfield Brothers Yelli Screamy w/ RS Revelation RLT 140) have 20mm TA. I don't care about the color personally, I just want something that works. I've been debating whether or not to sell my Lenz complete or frame/fork, but this may have sold me on selling it frame/fork only. I'd like to see an MSRP and an actual weight as well as pictures with guards (I hit a lot of trees) so I can decide if I'm going to keep a closer eye on this thing or not though.
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 I love my x-fusion trace but don't trust anything that x-fusion says or puts on their website. Their website advertises features that don't exist on their forks. Production has slipped so many times and they don't bother to mention on their website that the actually available forks don't match what is being advertised. And that's if you can actually find something in stock.

Again, x-fusion forks are awesome but they need to get their shit together and clearly communicate what forks are truly available and what features those forks actually have. Not "might have some day", but actually have today. They need to clearly distinguish between available products/features and prototypes of future forks.
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  • + 2
 No matter how much hate this fork gets, maybe it works really well. Anyone every think of that? Despite it being an eyesore.. probably does the task, and if it were handed to you, i'm sure a LOT of us would take it.
  • + 2
 I think it looks good however. Just needs the right frame color to match perfectly, but I think its attractive.
  • + 2
 Heck yeah! That's more like it. I was wondering what the covers were going to look like. Smile Thanks bro!
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 Nice engineering piece, but ...
The inverted setup need a truly good protector for the bars, otherwise they'll get damaged at the first enduro session. And once a bar gets marked ... voilà suspension.
And that gold color ... only Designed in Californa can lead to so beautiful, or so horrible designs (as this case)
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 From the OP:
Carbon stanchion guards (not shown)
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 I like it, and if you don't like the colour... customize it. If u can cough up the money to purchase this jewel u might aswell have it painted in the colour that fits your bike.
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 make it for 26er, loose the gold, put on some stanchion guards, and make it look like it was made in 2013 not 2000 and I'm in.
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 Putting the gold color aside, can someone explain to me why I would want to move my sanctions closer to the rocks? Makes no sence to me why you would put such a sensitive and expensive part of the bike in harms way. Seems like a purely cross country application. I could never ride my all mountain trails with one of these.
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 Don't crash? Smile
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 @david-you never go full retard

instagram.com/p/eH9t_LRdlg
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 I wonder what improvements the inverted chassis gives over their current Slant/Sweep/Trace "34" forks. I've spent some time riding a Slant RL2, and if they just put the HLR damper in that fork, it would be simply awesome.
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 This inverted fork looks great! Reminds me of the ol' Maverick SC32 fork. Hopefully this X-Fusion will require less maintenance.
www.maverickbike.com/main/do/products/productID/39
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 that things looks bad!! Too bad 4.75" of travel was cool like a decade ago, and most bikes nowadays would lose head angle with it.
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 if inverted is so crappy then why does the moto industry use it on every fork and has done so for the last 20 years?
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 Keeping the conventional forks on MTBs was the best marketing campaign EVER. It really makes no sense from a performance perspective.
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 Is it not just the same as a maverick sc32 with better insides? Paul turner rockshox origonal ower and maverick owner is now working for x fusion, hence the used fork and dropper post!
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 Wow I like it no clue how it runs but if I had the money I would just buy it for the bling factor. But knowing XFusion they probably did their home work and it might well be a good fork. Price wise I'm guessing 1200,-.
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 Wow how old school can fork look like! Awesome. I just can't believe its stiff - It doesn't even got a bolted axle, would a quick release really be enough? Can't wait some serious testing....
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 Hate how loads of people are complaining that the stanchions will get ruined as they're closer to the rocks etc, it clearly says the carbon guards aren't shown and the picture with them on looks pretty good
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 These forks are sick end of story. On some bikes it may not look right. But look at the abundance of replies to this article. They've got all you hens cluckin' about their shit Mouth 2 Mouth Marketing here we go
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 That fork looks pretty pimpin
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 i like x fusion stuff but just the look of these throws me right off! no doubt there good quality though. dvo are the ones to wait for!
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 Lil' Wayne wants one...
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 is it really going to matter if you can't get it in 26? I mean, yeah it might throw your geo off by a 10th of a degree, but it won't effect performance otherwise, not will it look any stranger since there is no arch to sit a half inch higher over the tire (as if most people would notice the height difference anyway).
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 Funny you should say that.
The height difference (from the axle) is 12mm between 650 and 26, I've been testing this with a demo bike and unless you actually tell someone that the '650b' bike has 26in wheels on it nobody notices. They all come back talking about how much better it rolled over stuff and how they could feel the difference, I quietly stifle my laughter. I think in a couple years '650b compatible' will just mean 'enough clearance for English winter' to long time mtbers.
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 my god, why is it so f*cking gold and shiney...?!!
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 That thing is butt ugly.
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 that would look dope on my murdered out fat-bike!!!
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 This is what they were doing?? and most of their 2013 line still missing from the market!
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 PB failed to bring us the whole story. Here you can see one of XFusion's engineers at the assembly of this proto:

images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/8200000/Austin-Powers-Goldmember-austin-powers-8226595-852-480.jpg
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 Ok had x fusion vengeance for the first time and all did not go well great fork but the steering tube started creaking after one month of use . X fusion replaced that but I sold them . Years later after selling my fox forks due to needing 160 fork I got a set of x fusion slant and after the first fail I have to say I'm very happy . Only thing I don't like is they are 15mm longer in axel to crown to others forks and that make for twitchy steering .
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 Try a shorter stem?
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 I got the vengeance with the creak, which theoretically is curable, but i am riding it like that anyway, it works so well. I am stoked on the 180mm METRIC!!!
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 had a velvet rl that started creaking on the crown when my heavier buddy started riding it. once they found out it was on a DJ, they didnt want anything to do with me.. hell, they didnt even offer me a replacement crown. they just said my warranty was 'void', which i knew they were going to do.. but i just wasnt happy with the way they wrote me off. with that said, i went back to fawx. the velvet is still alive and well!
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 My vengeance creaks too, when grabbing front brake or on hard corners, or when front wheel touch hard on the ground. i tried loctite and primer solution but failed to stop the noise, pretty annoying for such a great fork, im really happy with it and the only problem is the creaking steerer.
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 Finally someone delivers 160mm 27.5 enduro fork with 20mm axle!
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 Ditch the gold and we'll talk
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 Wondering if a 30mm axle with keyed fork receptables and 2 screw bolts on each side could replace the hoop and keep it as stiff as a regular fork.
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 20mm axle with 30mm long bolt-through clamp on each side might make it close to 32 series with 9mm axle. But first of all they would need to beef up that crown by a fair bit. I think the only future of single crown upside forks is carbon fibre uppers. Other than that you have to live with flex, but no one said flex can really stop you from doing something. On the other side of the spectrum I find 40mm stanchions on Fox40 and Totem quite ridiculous as well... Obviously I haven't tested that on any dyno, but I spy with my little eye that this tool-free QR through axle and small crown don't promise too much steering accuracy...
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 Carboncorwn is about as flexy as a cast alu crown. No real gain here. Fat steel unicrown seamless into 40mm tubes running 37mm upside stanchions into a canted and bolted 30mm axle might curb flex once and for all. But this is probably 1000 product iterations away...expect this in 2030...
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 Eee... it depends how you form that carbon crown. If you'd do something like this here out of carbon (like those RS World Cup series forks) , not much would change indeed, but if you'd make it into a shape ala Marzocchi RAC that would change things a lot. And unlike RAC it would not weigh a ton. In general Single crown USD is an interesting avant-garde concept, that I fancy myself, like Cannodale Lefty category, but I doubt if it can ever be even as good as that. Weight, stiffness and price numbers are just not making it a reasonable choice, rather a conneseur's fab. In that respect USD single crown VS standard SC is getting even worse marks than DC USD versus standard DC.
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 Not really. The dimensions are pretty much set - otherwise the crown will collide with the frame or there will be an issue with offset.
If you do carbon - that would mean something like a lightweight dc crown where you could split the load and the clamping force into two light assemblies. That design however would not go down well with the conservative roadie/xc crowd and marketing shills and would still carry a weight penalty. Carbon is not usually the right material for anything except air and space and prosthesis.

I agree with the looks of Revel crown - does not look right. Needs to be flatbar look with chamfered edges and a little bit of machine marks, collet or bolts and split. Jewellry like some pedals.
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 What dimensions are set? You could make a basic core structure in the form of steerer and two tubes, all in CF, then an outer structure of many continous directional fibers from the top of steerer all the way to the bottom of upper legs. Finaly you could then beef up the areas in critical zones with more carbon. The only dimension that might go out of control would be Crown to race, that might go up by a fair bit in order to make smooth transition steerer-stanchion. Just imagine MZ RAC upper assembly from carbon but additonally including the steerer in the piece

Actualy that would be many times easier to do than trying to make a standard fork this way where monoblock involving carbon sliders would be a slider/bushing tolerance nightmare, not mentioning what to coat it with to minimize friction. Such SC USD fork could be really neat and the overall solution could be justified. I would not be surprised if price wouldn't go up much while weight would still be competitive.
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 Why don't you offer your services to X-Fusion WAKI? You seem to be smarter than every engineer working in any company that's in the bike industry and I'm sure they could benefit from your insight about every single topic out there.
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 @waki: Am not a friend of carbon. Steel can be done with similar strength without scoring, scuffing, ageing, brittleness and environmental impact issues. If ultimate strenght or pure marketing bull is not the goal, alu, magnesium, thinwall titanium is always an option. Air&Space&prosthetics is where carbon is great.

@lou:
I think all the points raised are valid. Its called process blindness - everybody suffers from it - and that fork is almost there - visually and functionally.
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 Looking at the lowers on my current fork I have a few scuffs from rocks and brushand no marks on the srantions. Wouldnt putting the stantions in this high risk for damage area mess them up?
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 Is nobody else worried about the crown construction?
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 Fuggit, Ill put a 26" on it.I aint skeered.
Plus, it'll sit higher like a 180
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 funny i dont remember my shivers ever having an arch? but how did they do it? i did read it all, did they mention price? USD system im guessing isnt u.s. dollars
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 i wanna pink fork color, anyone?
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 that crown looks horrendous. should have stuck with the design from the proto.
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 I hadn't noticed the crown until someone else pointed it out. I went back to check out the proto again and though the same thing. I like that boxed shape.
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 i dont know why they dont invest in doing all their forks uni crowns. it seems like a great idea. the only x fusion fork ive owned creaked like a SOB after a while.. just dont understand why they dont push for uni crown moar..
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 Nifty to be sure, but will I ever get to try it without buying it? It all depends on if they can get it spec'd on demo bikes. . .
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 Xfusion, go home. You're drunk.
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 ''the Revel, with its 34mm stanchion tubes, is far more stout than any 35mm or 36mm chassis on the market.'' bold claim there..........
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 Its because its inverted. The larger upper tubes resist flex a lot more than the smaller 36mm upper tubes on a conventional fork. Most flex is at the crown. It was the same in Moto, where 46mm forks were stiffer and tracked better than 50mm conventional forks.
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 looks like they borrowed the crown from a department store bike in 2002
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 still baffled to as why they dont do uni crown. that seemed like such a good flippin idea
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 jumpman2334 you mean like a one piece crown/upper??
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 wild... ive got mixed opinions on that because I know how one piece injection molded bmx race forks felt... and the word to describe it was shit...
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 rigid bmx race forks do not equal mtb squish forks!!!
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 not injection molded... sorry im at work and that's what im working on now, lol... I meant hydro-formed.
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 exactly. theres no telling how it will feel... looks super clean tho...
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 well, itll fix their stupid creaking issues they seem to be plagued by.. since its all one piece, theres nothing to creak!
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 true. a lot of forks creak and pop at the crown, its not just them. I'd def like to try a set out before I bought em.
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 Not long before people will be stealing bikes just to weigh the forks in at this rate......
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 I hope they make it in black.
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 Am i the only person that noticed the 90 degree head angle in the picture?
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 I saw it but can't see rest of the bike so thought best not ask!
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 Something tells me the production model wont be gold... And I bet it'll still cost less than a top of the line 36 Float...
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 When are we gonna see the dual crown version of this? 203mm travel option please!!
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 theyre going to release a non inverted DC fork here in a couple of months.
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 Yeah the colour is just all kinds of wrong :-D
Anything other than gold would look much nicer
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 how can I place mud guard on this design? but it's damn nice fork, except the gold ano.
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 I think its f'in sickkk, i like it
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 Will be great on my yellow Surly Pugsley! Looks like it gonna fit fat bike tires... I'm very happy !
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 The more i see new cool stuff for Mountain Bikes the more i make mucho $ thats y we love Mountain bikes_____0^0_____
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 Paint the uppers black, lowers stay gold and get rid of the chromy decals. Excited to see someone mixing things up.
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 I think White Bros. were also one of the first to come out with an inverted MTB fork.
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 U..G..L..Y you ain't got no alibi.. YOU U..G..L..Y

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqn7vXeVCLE
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 One good thing from all this inverted forks craze - 20mm axle is here to stay.
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 How many spare stanchions does it come with?
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 Alright pinkbikers, they gave you your 20mm thru-axle... but it isn't available in 26. Be careful what you wish for.
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 Ya know... the advantage to a 650B rated fork is that it will ALSO accept 26" wheels...
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 @mfbeast12
you noob, exactly what deeight said...
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 Using deeeights logic, there's no need for 650 forms either as you can fit all three sizes in a 29er fork. Because apparently axle to crown height and rake is not important.
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 ^^ Autocorrect fail - 'forms' should say forks
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 I don't think the a2c would change in this situation. On a standard fork if you raise the arch, you need to raise the crown so that you can maintain full travel without the two hitting each other. There is no arch, so the length of the fork is just going to be what's necessary to function. You shouldn't need to raise the a2c to accommodate 650b because the wheels will adjust for that. I'd think the rake would be negligible. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. This is just my interpretation.
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 In this particular fork's case, they're likely making just ONE fork, and changing the travel range it can be adjusted in with different internals. Magura does a similar thing with their fork...the 26er models and 650b labeled models are the SAME forks... they've always made their 26er forks for massive tire clearance, so all they do for the 650B labeled ones is just that...change the labels.
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 hey now, lets not forget the offset between wheel sizing!
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 Fork offsets are increasing to counter act the loss in agility from slackening out the head angles. It doesn't actually have anything to do with wheel diameter though some who don't know better think it does (probably because Gary Fisher first started trying to explain it as to why his 29ers worked better with it than without). 650B x 2.3 tires are the same diameter as 26 x 2.7 tires, and lots of companies had 26er model forks with the clearance for those widths of tires... yet somehow magically the 650B now requires more offset when they 26ers of equal diameter do not??

THAT is marketing selling stuff right there...

Meanwhile I'm running 650Bs in forks designed for 26ers on bikes without slack head angles, and they steer just the same as if I'd run a fat 26er (and without the weight penalty of one).

Historical reason for why 26er forks for so long ran 38mm offsets is that the rigid forks they replaced usually had more, but they also didn't change in length so the head angle remained constant. As a fork compresses, the front end dives and the effective head angle increases, making the bike less stable. So they went with a reduced offset to increase the stability of the bike, to offset the loss as the suspension cycles.

Anyone with a rigid fork equipped bike that can spin the bar 180 degrees (and lock it in that place (wrap a tie-strap around the stem/toptube) can see how having no forwards offset to the axle makes the bike super stable, and it can be pushed along without a rider and remain upright as long as the wheels keep spinning (self balancing). Or try and steer a walmart assembled bike where they put the bike together with the fork backwards...
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 I hope X-Fusion has sorted out their creaking crown issues...if not I can only imagine the horrible noises this fork makes.
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 Fox and Rock Shox crowns creak, too. It is a very common problem, but easy to fix with Loctite 290.
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 If your crown creaks it is failing. This cannot be fixed with loctite. That's crazy talk. I've had a fox and an RS replaced outside of warranty period because of crown creak. Each company responded with great concern and new uppers. If it creaks it means it is coming apart. It's hard to distinguish from head set and other components but if you put steer tube in clamp you can isolate the source. Creaks in crown mean replace not cover it up.
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 my velvet started creaking real bad.. super bummed when i called x fusion and they treated me like crap. dont plan on buying anything else from them, but i sure as hell hope they start pushing for more uni crowns..
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 jumpman2334 Dude - Take fork off your bike to eliminate headset, stem and handlebar influences. Put the end of the steertube in bike stand or softjaws. Grab the lower legs and tork the thing. If it creaks take a video with audio and send to them. This should help you isolate the stanchions from the steer tube to determine the source. Either way you should get some new uppers.
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 I've never heard of a unicrown on a suspension fork. You lost me. Do you mean a crown integrated into a steertube all as one original piece? That would be awesome.
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 yep yep! i really dont understand why they dont use it more.. but then again, i dont plan to buy anything else from em, so i could really care less at this point in time..

www.bikerumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/2013-X-Fusion-unicrown-one-piece-alloy-crown3.jpg

anywho, i knew i was going to void the warranty putting it on my DJ.. but once i told them that, the guy just kinda wrote me off. didnt even offer to sell me a new crown assy, just was like 'sorry, your warranty is void, and there isnt anything i can do to help you'
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 This goes perfectly with a finger-thick fake golden necklace which is frequently seen on a Chinese ganster's or hooligan's neck.
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 I like it. but when are some thoughts gonna go into crown designs?
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 Those forks have all the swag
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 I like the feel of it, the taste of it, the schmell of it. And then I want to shred on it.
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 Does it come in black?
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 It does look retro and not in a good way :-´/ I'd buy inverted forks, but not with those looks
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 Haven't you all heard the news form fox? Gold makes it faster!
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 Soon theyll be making it in leopard print, gross. Also is it just me or do inverted forks look like garbage without some sort of guard?
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 that would be why you always run them with the guard!
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 Just curious, but what do people think this will cost?
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 I would buy that if it was silver .
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 If you like it then you better put some bling on it.
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 These look fucking sick. Shiverrrrrrr!
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 Says something about the future for 26" rimes in high end enduro applications...
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 you can run 26" wheels no problem... thats the point of offering it in 650B, you can run both
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 i wasn't sure of the affects on the ATC height and offset and such... i know it's not much of a difference but yeah... It was just a thought...
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 love it! gold would look sick on my rig....
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 Flashback color of my 01' Psylo.
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 Wahhh!!! Why no 15mm axle?? Why no 180mm option?? Wahhh!! Oh wait...
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 Dang looks like some ghetto kashima
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 Not gonna lie, I kinda like it LMAO! But are they gonna offer in in 26" ? Because thats what I still ride...
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 You can always stick 26" on the 650b version.
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 I hope the crown doesn't creak on this fork.
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 The fork for the next Bond movie...Gold Shiver..fugly!
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 they shuld have called it the BLING. or Goldmember
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 I'd buy it... black and gold please X-Fusion
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 Looks like a chavvy sc shiver to me.....only time will tell though I suppose. Good luck X fusion.
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 I say ''sick'' pretty soon 180 mill will be out there
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 I might get this only because it's gold. pee-eye-emmm-peee!
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 You will have to forgive me if for now I just keep on my Fox 36 and RP32.
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 Any ideas what carbon rim is on the photo ?
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 lol I'm pretty much sold on this fork.
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 The worst fork I have ever seen。。。。
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 Gold fingerrrrs, errr,rrer
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 sweet fork! looks old school
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 I'm down for one. Just not in gold.
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 things that should be gold....... 1. money 2. pirates false teeth
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 Its got a 20mm axle. Happy now!?
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 That would look awesome on an intense 275 with a chrome finish.
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 Dear X-Fusion,
You had me at 20mm axle. Now shut up and take my money. Smile
  • + 1
 but, no 26 option Wink
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 26" and 27" frame/parts are interchangeable in my opinion. 650b simply means more mud clearance.
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 Love it, want one. Mr T phoned, he also wants one.
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 This is a sick fork. Not sold on the gold . Hope it comes in dif. color.
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 You see Mr. Powers, I like goooold.
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 I hope they put some slider guards on that shiny beast.
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 Carbon guards are included, but not shown.
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 Oh Tuhao Gold! Let make friends, Tuhao!
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  • + 0
 That has to be the ugliest fork I have ever seen
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 2 chainz does mountain biking?
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 and he's f*ckin stoked on these forks...
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  • - 3
 anyone buying this also needs a 29er with a gearbox driven by 11 speed electric shifting. Also a heart rate monitor for when the oil starts spittling into your face while doing a wheelie. A full face will be mandatory.
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 bling bling x250... :\
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 And 26 " ???
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 Thankfully, the 650b model is compliant with 26 inches wheels
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  • + 1
 Kanye West digs it too!
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 I don't care what size wheel or fork anyone uses, but let's all agree that Kanye West can fuck off.
  • + 0
 absolutely ...
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 I love goooollllddd
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 I am amazed at the performance of my xfusion , awesome company
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 Needs stanchion guards
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 Carbon guards are included, but not shown.
  • + 1
 So not like XF not to have guards, CF guards just took it to a whole new level for me, my mojo just peaked!
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 Lower them to 100mm
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 and where are 26" version?????
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 In front of you. Just put a 26" wheel in.
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  • - 1
 Marzocchi Shiver Single crown reinvented
  • + 13
 Time to re-read the piece - it's a completely different fork using completely different tech, both internal and external. That's like saying that all right-side-up forks are the same.
  • + 1
 Funny.... it's like people only know the marzo shiver inverted single crown.... as if it's the only one on the planet.
  • + 0
 All right side up forks are the same.
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 Ummm But if rocks scratch the tubes and they will what happens then. but I feel the Gold not the design
  • + 5
 It comes with covers, like all inverted MTB forks.
  • + 2
 Sweet and never knew. They should show it.
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 get out more than just pb and you would have known Wink
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 hope it performs better than it looks
  • + 5
 That's... what she said?
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 Sorry....I gotta say it.....It looks flexy
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 15mm is flexy, this has 20mm oh thats new
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 I would totally rock that if it came in 26".
  • + 1
 What exactly prohibits you from putting a 26" wheel in? It will just ride 10mm taller. Which is probably no big deal - dending on what a2c it has, it may be the same as most 160mm forks.
  • + 2
 Offset would affect it. It's not optimized for all wheel sizes, even though they would fit.
  • + 1
 Offset difference between 26 and 650b is negligible. Your head angle makes all the difference.
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 I laugh a little everytime I see someone say " why don't they make this 650b fork in a 26??" come on guys....
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 BLINGIN IN YO GRILL!!
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 Looks flextastic
  • + 1
 A 4.5 lb fork + lack of crown = flex...
  • + 3
 Yep, flex. Light use only and you are fine.
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 Looks so cheap and nasty. Straight out of the 70s!
  • + 1
 yehhhh.......no
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 straight outta East L.A. - just need matching gold spokes on the wheel ...
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