Bitches Brew - Is Mountain Biking the Pinnacle of Human Athletic Performance?

Jun 21, 2014
by Amanda Batty  
bitches brew column - title image


**Disclaimer: This article is in no way based on any scientific or physiological evidence beyond my own experience, curious musings and obnoxious opinions. Proceed at your own risk.**

Over the past few weeks and again this morning as I digested the insanity of World Cup DH racing (including the craziest tire-less run I've ever seen), one thought has been rolling around in the space between my ears: in terms of elite athletic prowess, is mountain biking the top dog?

I'm not talking one specific discipline over another (despite my clear affinity for downhill) but mountain biking as a whole, and the total number of high-level physical, mental and emotional functions all required to get on, ride, progress, compete and/or win. As a reminder, I'm not a scientist. As an athlete, however, I'm very conscious about the number of critical faculties involved in riding and just how dangerous an 'off day' can be: whether we're distracted, tired, hungry, hungover, stressed, injured or over-caffeinated, it can affect not only our enjoyment levels of riding, but our performance, safety and even our lives. But I digress.

A mountain biker is a unique animal. We're human and fully equipped with the usual self-preservation systems, yet we put ourselves through brutal experiences and wild adventures, some of which could even be included in the description of 'torture' by certain sections of the Geneva Convention. Lung-bursting uphill sprints, bone-splintering technical descents, and speeds that not only endanger our physical well being but that of various local wildlife (SQUIRREL!). The average, logical human says "Only someone half brain dead would do THAT".

Martin Maes has moved up into the senior category this year but his wild riding doesn t look to have calmed down too much. Watching him ride in practice he has to be one of the frontrunners for bagging at least a podium spot this weekend.

But we're not. The mental processes in athletes of any sort have been proven to be slightly different, but my curious mind wants to know what mountain bikers' grey matter looks like. I have a strong suspicion that our brains and bodies are not only better conditioned than those of say, a television-and-potato-chip-bred human, but that in an athlete-on-athlete death match, the mountain biker may be the best bet both mentally and physically. Now, don't get your undergarments in a wad -- there are some things bikers are really terrible at, like swimming a mile with crocodiles chasing them or free squatting 400 lbs on one leg. But based on my very non-scientific, non-expert observances and experiences, I think that when multitasking and sheer courage come into play, we'd be damn hard creatures to beat.

At any given moment, a mountain biker's brain and body is fielding and processing more input than some folks receive in a week. Think about it: If you're pedaling uphill, you're managing about forty different tasks all at the same time. Imagine the input feed on a computer screen; Trail shape, texture and condition; obstacles and the technical challenges; body position and muscle exchange, including climb tension and pedal cadence; ears open for approaching traffic, eyes digesting the smallest information feed, fingers shifting, body leaning; it always seems like 'pedal, pedal, pedal, attack, oh-shit-a-huge-rock' for me. Now imagine a high-speed descent and put it all into slow motion... I think you get the point. Our bodies and brains and emotions and nerves are all tied up into one sensory overload, and we handle it. The adrenaline and the tactical planning at a split second; the tuck here, push there, pedal this, hop that. Not only do we handle it all, but we actively seek it out and progressively work towards more precarious situations. What sort of athlete constantly seeks such a high threshold of pressure?

Pom Pon has been incredibly consistent so far this season. She took third place today 4.028 seconds off Carpenter. Can she make the jump to first soon

Cyclists have long been seen as lung- and heart-efficiency models because of our increased VO2 and heart rate capacities, but now more than ever, we're seeing a surge of growth in biking of athletes from other sports jumping in and spinning out. From skiers and snowboarders to marathon runners and Olympic weight lifters, all one has to do is peer into an Instagram feed or athlete website gallery for training habits and insights, and more often than not, that training happens on a mountain bike. It's not hard to see why: between the given altitude variations, the physical and mental demands and the low-impact cross-training benefits (muscular development, etc), mountain biking is an ideal sport for increased fitness, coordination and rehabilitation. But is it a perfect sport?

Is the mountain biker a prime example of human athletic performance? At the most elite levels, are our physical, mental, and emotional computing abilities at the top of the athletic totem pole? Or do we lack in areas that can only be compensated through outside cross training?

Author Info:
ambatt avatar

Member since Sep 8, 2011
29 articles

215 Comments
  • 85 6
 eating bananas is the pinnacle of human athletic performance.
  • 25 26
 you know it! Mountain Biking from it's roots in XC to the pinnacle of frame design and development in DH has allowed athletes to push every envelope in the sport - no other sport allows for transformation like mountain biking does. Without a doubt DH and FR mountain biking in all it's form is the most bad ass sport alive. An athlete performing in DH has to be extremely focused to maintain their trail lines but also a stuntman in the same moment without a thought given into a 15 foot drop cause over thinking = disaster. No sport compares - no sport will ever compare and all other sports must bow to the ALMIGHTY MOUNTAIN BIKER!
  • 23 4
 Training to be an astronaut is the pinnacle of human ability
  • 36 6
 ...and mountain biking falls somewhere on the list in the big gap below supercross, and above volleyball
  • 34 6
 Rock Climbing is probably the most physically and mentally challenging thing I have done. I couldn't imagine doing something like free solo El Capitan.
  • 118 4
 Enduroing your mom is probably the most physically and mentally challenging thing i have done.
  • 5 28
flag Chuckbike (Jun 21, 2014 at 11:28) (Below Threshold)
 I can ride my bike with no handle bars !!!!
  • 13 4
 U haven't try enduroing your mother in law yet...
  • 5 15
flag RONDAL (Jun 21, 2014 at 17:26) (Below Threshold)
 Formula 1 or bust
  • 1 12
flag Quesadilla34 (Jun 21, 2014 at 19:50) (Below Threshold)
 Parcore is, those dudes basicaly are trials bikers without the bike. Its all athleticism, but in mtb u can go way bigger
  • 4 0
 If you read this, keep in mind it is after midnight on mid summer night, and I'm old.
I guess what rattles around in my mind, more than the comparison between mountain bikers and other athletes, is that we're comparing the skills and attributes of those who engage essentially in extreme play. What is fitness, if not the ability to do what one needs to be able to do to live? I love to ride. I ride about as often as possible, and try to push myself to be better each ride, whether that is the long climb, or on a steep technical trail or trying to learn a tap-up on the trials bike. I'm constantly amazed at what phenomenal athletes can do; and recognize that few here are truly interested in more than shooting the breeze over a cold brew, but to me survival and spirit of hope seen in those in untenable situations, be it war, natural or economic disaster, genocide, or much more personal situations like an abusive home, garner far more awe for the fitness to live that they exhibit.
  • 6 5
 If there's one sport that should be called the most complex and most demanding, then it's UFC/MMA. If you slow down during a mountain bike race, you can still speed up later and even if you finish on a worse position, but nobody will knock you out. An MMA fight requires 100% focus all the time, if you make one mistake, you won't have a chance to correct it later, you go to the ground and the fight is over.
  • 6 1
 Quesadilla35 learn how to spell Parkour before telling us its better than Mountain Biking
  • 4 0
 Extremmist, if you dont focus 100% during a DH race, you can make a stupid mistake and the course will knock you out. High chance of ending up being hospitalized, which I think is worse than loosing a fight Smile
  • 1 1
 If you fall free soloing El Capitan you die. No chance of survival. Free soloing for those that don't know is rock climbing without a rope or aid of any kind.
  • 2 1
 how does F1 possibly get neg prop'd?
You want to talk about racing, speed, consequences, being on the bleeding edge, show me another sport that compares.
When F1 athletes do triathalons in their spare time to train for F1, or race WRC in the off-season because they are bored...it goes to show just how physically and mentally fit you need to be.
  • 61 9
 I can't see, why mountain biking should be in any way more challenging than other sports.

Road cyclists will find the distances covered and effort put in by mountain bikers rather laughable, and going downhill on twisted mountain roads at 90+ km/h on a 23mm tire with rim brakes sounds like it might also take that extra bit of concentration...

And then there's a myriad of other sports, where people are not confined to some aluminium or carbon fibre contraption, but move freely in space... a lot of gymnasts might find it hard to see the challenge in a superman backflip...

And for the processing of lots of input in a short time... seen a MotoGP race lately?

A lot of athletes from other sports train on a mountain bike. Because it's easy, anybody can do it (not on any high level of course), and you can shut off your brain, just like running, but with just that bit of additional sensory input not to get instantly boring.
  • 10 4
 i agree man. 3 words TDF
  • 51 7
 As a guy who has done a lot of individual "sports", here's my take:
- Skateboarding is by far the most technically difficult, and the most difficult to get to a professional level.
- Motocross is the most physically demanding overall. Think full body performance.
- Road racing requires the most leg power and best cardio.
- Mountain biking seems to combine all aspects at least at some point, not making it the hardest, but sort of a watered down version of everything.

Not sure if that made sense, still working on coffee #2.
  • 36 3
 Mark Webber said that DH mountain biking is the closest he's come to the concentration levels required for Formula 1.
  • 8 29
flag fade-to-black (Jun 21, 2014 at 7:53) (Below Threshold)
 As a big player of rugby(played div 1 and hk national squad) rugby is by far much tougher than any mountai bike trial. Top of the world in whistler has nothing on 60 minutes of rugby. My postion (#1 prop) had no proper substitute for the entire season so the only way i was coming of the pitch was on a stretcher, mountain biking requires more concentration on the most part as without it youll be heading into a tree but no where as physically demanding nor tough on the body.
  • 20 13
 I've spent a lot of time racing and riding mountain bikes including XC and DH at National level

From the couple of years I have spent road riding and following the grand tours / classics I'd hazard a guess and say that professional road racing is the most brutal test of human prowess?

I thought mountain biking was "hardcore" until I started understanding the almost superhuman effort these guys make during their tours, and the physical dangers of riding in a large peleton at very high speeds on the road, where crashes are not uncommon and there is no protection apart from a light weight helmet, some mitts and a thin layer of lycra

the distances, the speeds, the elevation, the energy expenditure and the constant daily effort required to complete (or win) a race like "The Tour de France" is unimaginable to most of us recreational amateur cyclists

most of the mountain bikers I have met who have tried road riding against seasoned roadies have had their asses handed to them on a plate
  • 28 5
 yeah but if roadies tried mountain biking they would get their asses handed to them on a silver plater x2.
  • 7 6
 @t-turi-mullet

We are not talking technical ability on rough terrain but power output and physical capacity - I'd argue that technical ability can be developed more easily (road riding actually requires good bike handling) than increasing physical attributes which takes a huge amount of time, suffering and nutrition
  • 2 1
 Granted these are all personal anecdotes but in my experience, regarding cross training. Nothing builds overall stamina like riding your road bike, and it transfers over perfectly to MTB'ing. However when I first started cycling I noticed my buddies that I mountain biked with could hold a much straighter/tighter pace line than most of my buddies that exclusively road biked. They each build different skills faster which isn't surprising.
  • 11 2
 @hampsteadbandit

Yes I agree, sprinting and downhills on a road bike do require lots of bike handling (I know from experience). Keep in mind you are saying a roadie would beat a mountain biker in things roadies specifically focus on. Roadies also train for bike handling and control, just as mountain bikers also train for power output, even though it is not their main focus. What I'm trying to say is, a mountain biker in a roadie situation will always get beat. but if you put a roadie in a mountain bikers situation, they would be completely dumbfounded. The roadie would have no idea how to choose a line, read terrain, and avoid obstacles. therefore leaving the road biker confused, struggling, Injured and on their ass. Now trust me here, I'm not knocking a road biker's skill. They will beat me in a road race every time but, what I'm trying to say is if Lance Armstrong and Steve Peat did two races, one road race, and one downhill race, peat would get beat in the road race and lance in the MTB race. The margin of loss in the road race would be less than the margin of loss in the DH race. meaning that they both are better at what they do, but the mountain biker is better at both.
  • 3 0
 @t-turi-mullett

good points well made

I guess we'd have to make a direct comparison at 2 athletes top of their game in different disciplines like Chris Froome / Bradley Wiggins on road and Aaron / Gee / Troy on DH MTB would be very interesting to somehow make this study

or we could look at an athlete like Cannondale's Saagan with his mtb background and current road career?
  • 4 0
 @hampsteadbandit

Yes. I've always wanted to do a study like that. Have a top Dh, XC, Enduro, road and cyclocross athletes all compete in races for their respective disciplines, and see who comes out on top.
  • 3 0
 I guess the point in the article was that mtbing has the largest amount of all of them. so you have to be good at quick thinking, strong and brave. where as other sports you need less of the other two and more of one. so mtbing is more equally balenced in the requirements for brain, body and courage. and that means you need to be good at all of them as opposed to just great at one.
  • 1 0
 Well you got one name in there, Jared Graves. I believe he's racing road bike+XC for training in Australia too for his training regime(from his facebook status). And he's racing enduro and DH at the same time, was a BMX racer too. Guess he knows better which one need more human athletic performance.
  • 2 0
 Just ask Cadel Evans he is/was world class in MTB and road.
  • 3 2
 Except Armstrong is a cheating, one testicle, liar. Peaty is just a nice guy that can haul ass on a DH bike who has given back everything to his sport not just his medals because the UCI made him.
  • 1 1
 ^^Amen^^
  • 20 1
 I have to argue that motocross/supercross at the professional level requires a higher level of fitness. The bikes are heavier, the races are longer and the terrain is just as technical. Mountain biking is certainly in the top 3 or 5. It can't be number 1 in my eyes though. I think anyone who has ever thrown a leg over a motocross bike and raced could attest to this.
  • 10 1
 there have been studies done showing that pro level mxers are the fittest athletes overall.
  • 3 0
 I totally agree. Ripping a couple laps at the local track is exhausting enough let alone racing for 40 minutes and blasting 120' triples the whole time. Incredible athletes.
  • 4 5
 Keep in mind that MX and DH are totally different in terms of training regime.
MX guys don't have to be that strong, as long as they can handle their bike and take the beating that is 2 35min moto's on a gnarly ass track.
So they can afford to pretty much train all day long, just don't go into heart rates that are too high (to avoid chronic fatigue and stuff) and they're all set.
With DH it's trickier: the upper body is like MX guys: light and strong.
The legs on the other hand, need way more muscle to be able to deliver power. And building/maintaining all that muscle requires you to rest a lot. I'm sure guys like Atherton, Smith or Gwin would train all day long like the moto guys, but they can't, they need to take time off to let their muscles recover.
  • 13 1
 Sorry but you are very wrong. You have to be VERY strong in your core and upper body for motocross. For legs, its like doing squats for the entire ride. I would come back from a race completely shattered. If you aren't strong, you are getting worked.... and mx/woods racers race at their peak heart rates for pretty much the entire race, which can be anywhere from 20 minutes to 2hrs.

I take you have never race a moto?
  • 2 4
 Ok, maybe I didn't say it correctly: they need to be strong, but they don't need power.
Look at all the pro MX guys: all small skinny guys. If you look at vids of them training, it's always with small weights.
Now if you look at the pro DH guys, they're all big. Even Troy Brosnan (who is easily among the top 5 most skilled guys on the circuit) had to bulk up this winter. DH requires tons of power
  • 7 1
 hahaha oh my. I've raced pretty much everything with two wheels including elite DH and expert MX off road, and trust me when I say that those tiny motocrossers have way more 'power' because they need it.
  • 5 1
 Hehe I'd like to see a face-off Atherton or Smith vs Villopoto or Stewart. Put them all on a SRM and make them do squats.. You'll see who has more power. 60kg Villo or 85kg Gee
  • 8 1
 After racing motocross at a fairly competitive level, I can say with confidence that a proper enduro race these days (EWS, BME, BMUE), is most certainly more demanding on the body than motocross. One need's explosive strength and endurance for both, however there is much more involved when climbing 10k ft. then descending 15k ft. on trails that are different the entire time over multiple days and be fairly self sufficient.
  • 7 1
 When I go for a pretty hard mountain bike ride (1km-ish of pedalling up and descending over 2 hours), the next day I feel a little fatigued in the morning, but generally good as new by the evening. When I go ride singletrack on my dirt bike for 2 hours, even on those few magically perfect rides where I don't cock up any of the trials-ish sections or big hills, I still spend the next 2-3 days sore as hell and aching all over. Pick up and turn around a 230lb dirt bike on a 35 degree sandy slope a couple times after getting bucked sideways from a boulder and tell me you don't need power and strength to play around on dirt bikes. And for the record, I think MX is waaay harder than DH, but I think hard enduro (check out the Erzberg Rodeo or Red Bull Romaniacs) puts both of them to shame
  • 2 1
 @bderricks - people have no clue how hard it can be on your body. Never even thought about the Erzberg... that shit is on a whole other level. Most people can't even finish it.
  • 4 1
 Exactly, out of a field of world class trials and MX riders, 500 people qualify, and 10-15 finish in a good year. People assume riding a dirt bike is easy because you have an engine to generate the power, but they forget that you still have to control that power. A 300cc 2-stroke doesnt just carry you around the trails, it violently pulls away from you and you have to hang on, with the same hands/arms that you're using to control the throttle and clutch.
  • 2 1
 Like you guys, I also have a lot of experience in both. I do believe that XC mountain bike racing requires more leg endurance and lung capacity than moto, but I believe moto requires more overall strength in the body, and of course better technical skill. A lot of elite bicycle racers do not lift weights,in order to keep the body mass down. A lot of professional motocross racers, although skinny, do a lot of weight training, even lower body. It isn't easy holding on to the tank of a motorcycle with your legs.
  • 3 1
 As much as I would love to say mountain biking, specifically of the gravity driven variety, is the pinnacle of athletic performance, I'm going to have to say that moto-x has got to be at the top. DH definitely requires similar if not identical technical proficiency; however, you don't necessarily have to be a "powerful" athlete, which is pretty much a requisite to racing moto. Technical ability/reaction times aside though, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned triathlon. You not only have to have supreme endurance, but insane will to push the body to the limit. For out and out fitness, I'm not sure that any athletes can compare to triathletes.
  • 1 0
 arent thhose replies not a bit filled with preference of riding bikes or motorbikes it are both bikes, and i like bikes, if i could i would also have a motocross. i believe its all a matter of how much these guys train, mx will indeed not need as much power in legs or will not train while riding in same way those muscles... it just a fact that atlethes are highly trained, and that they have skill. you cant maintain your skill if you dont have the power... unles your playing biljart but then you probably need power in you hand to aim.... i drink i smoke alot and take medication and am happy that i can still ride a bike and trow some tricks i remember that video with makken smoking and he said in order to do this as long as i can i need to be healthy i believe i want that also but its hard to choose
  • 1 0
 Just look at their menu for weight lifting and box jump. Which one have "bigger menus". And i belive there's a reason why Brian Lopes at his age now train those MX guys.
  • 1 0
 Not comparing whos stronger, I think you would need to be more precise to be a DH racer, one wrong line through a technical section and you can lose a race.
  • 2 0
 riding bikes is defn, demanding alot of you. if i ride everyday after work. since i cant stop. my muscles turn sour and i feel very tired when i get up early. problem is i dont know what do other then riding bikes, but i love it,
  • 2 0
 Try compression shorts or a nice cold water bath. Seems like a trend in any sports nowadays to repair your cell with cold(even ice)bath.
  • 1 0
 yes ive seen it in nitro circus. i take a refreshing shower or bath every evening when iget back from bike. thanks for the reply
  • 1 0
 Also not forgetting Nino Schurter in the Tour de Suisse.... only his 2nd big pro road tour... #Epic
  • 16 2
 I think that you've made a pretty thought-provoking point here. As athletes, mountain bikers have to prepare many more factors - the bike, your mind and body, etc. compared to people in other sports that might not be regarded as "complete". For instance, speaking very non-scientifically, Smith's return to WC DH was accompanied by a rather interesting bit of commentary. He could generate better power than last year because all his training was spent on the road bike. A downhiller just don't have the time to bring up their training in one area to that "top of the totem pole" as you put it, as there's just too many damn things to train for. Training for biking is really unlike the other sports I compete in, such as powerlifting, which amounts to training for three different lifts (or sometimes one) or track, where it's training for a maximum of two running/field events. These are also much simpler sports, where it's easy to see who physically dominates. Whoever lifts the most in their weight class is the strongest, while Bolt is regarded as the "world's fastest man" because his 100m time is the lowest. No single person has been dominant to this extent in downhill, for instance.
  • 10 1
 Gwin's great track record a few seasons ago could be argued as him being the fastest overall racer (during that season), or perhaps Minnar's many podium finishes could make him the most complete downhiller. If you can't even put out a single best biker, how are we supposed to stack up in general? Will the individual athletes excel and make it to the top of other, more easily measurable sports? I think that downhill is a subcategory of a category, where talent has to be too widely spread across a wide range of things, (as you said) for us to ever be regarded as the pinnacle of human athletic performance. We're amazing at a wide array of areas, but I think that this sort of jack of all trades sport means that we're truly masters of none.

ambatt, Thanks for taking the time to write this article. Very thought provoking (a great read too!), and hopefully it makes for good discussion. Now, I really want to see how the WC DH riders and see how they stack up in more easily measurable pursuits, such as a 100m sprint or powerlifting.
  • 6 0
 @parkourfan, you make some very good points here... Very good, indeed. Thank YOU for the well-written comment and your insight! Smile
  • 5 0
 You're welcome! Keep the opinion pieces coming, I'm a big fan of all the ones you've put out so far.
  • 2 4
 If we are to compare top level athletes from each extreme sport....DH Mt. Bike racers are in the top ten for sure. But recently those athletes in the cross fit competitions comes to mind.
  • 3 0
 "Crossfit". Or just high intensity weight training, which pro athletes have been doing for decades as part of their training.
  • 2 0
 So is weightlifting...check out the Reebok Crossfit Games.
  • 8 0
 "The tool supposed to help you get better at sports is now a sport"
  • 8 7
 Cross fit to my mind is an incredibly half baked concept. You cannot train for cardio and strength effectively. Its just not possible. So cross fit athletes are the worst of both as far as I'm concerned. I know people who got very heavily into cross fit and they stopped cycling. They were miles off the pace in all aspects of mountain biking when they returned. I've seen plenty of guys who do cross fit at running races too and they are slow. Really slow usually. And they can't bench, squat or dead lift anything like what a power lifter can. But if you put a power lifter running or a runner power lifting I guarantee you they would have better results in both than any cross fitter. In short cross fit is really good at making you average at lots of things.
  • 8 1
 The point with mountainbiking and with everyother action sport, such as BMX,MX,Skateboarding,Snowboarding etc. is that it's not entirely about the performance and being better than anyone else but also about the way of expressing youself through creative riding and style. Look at Brenadan Faiclough for instance, he hasn't won a WC race but is still one of the best in our sport because of his whips, nacs and general attitude towards riding. It's not all about results and times
  • 4 1
 You could say that about any sport. I cant think of a sport where competitors dont express themselves through style. Look at Berbatov in football, the man is/was often lazy looking and disinterested. But he had serious skills and a distinctive style of play. He was very popular. Loads of footballers have distinctive styles which differentiates them despite not being the best. Its exactly the same in all sports. Even golfers will talk about style and swing styles (all looks identical to me). Feck it, snooker players have incredibly distinctive styles.
  • 1 2
 *Oh yeah and when i say you cant train for cardio and strength effectively, i mean at the same time in the same session.
  • 2 2
 Check out the old REEBOK Eliminator races at Mammoth. Mountain bikers racing at 70+ MPH on old bikes in the 90's. My friend Insane Wayne won that one year and won $10,000 and a Chevy Tahoe. Wish it was still like that!
  • 1 2
 One of the hardest sport to master that came to mind imho was parkour (may be triggered by parkourfan's handle). You definitely can't have an off day or mental lapse and the person must be physically able. Your sense of timing must be impeccable and you need to be able to disperse the force when landing using the combination of timing and muscle strength only. Never tried the sport but looks pretty tricky to me.

of course, this doesnt take away my appreciation for mountain biking and other sports which involves equipment that adds another level of complexity and uncertainty (what if chain seizes on downhill ride)
  • 4 1
 Not a fan of fighting... but what about UFC and all those mixed martial arts disciplines? Thy dont only have to be fit, but the very instict of survival comes into play espcially since you're fighting another human being which is going through the same basic insticts
  • 3 1
 Yup fighting is definitely up there as among the most challenging sports. Big mental strength element involved. Judging by the neg props I received we appear to have some cross fitters. There is a reason athletes don't train that way!
  • 10 1
 If your at an elite level in any sport then your good,that's a given. I don't think Downhill is "the pinnacle" of all sports. I think it's underestimated what they do,unless you ride yourself then you won't have a idea. It's like any sport, unless you do that sport you'll have no idea what it takes to get to that elite level. So I think any sport that is participated in at elite level is at the pinnacle of that given sport!
  • 9 1
 MTB requires all your faculties to do it ‘well’: Endurance, power, reflexes, strategy, finesse, a bit of intuition and a spirit that wants to be on a trail. And even when you’re doing everything right, a fluke can smack you into the trail faster than you know what happened. It gets my vote for best sport hands down. So much so, that I have little to no desire to do any other sport! Every athlete thinks their sport is the best. We just happen to be right.
  • 9 2
 Surfing....If you surf, you'll understand, if you don't, then you won't even have a clue just how difficult a sort it is to just learn to do the basics, let alone at the top level, On a bike you have plenty of constants, i.e. the bike, the trail, you sit in the same spot, your feet are in the same place, on the pedals every time, you can repeat the same line over and over until you get it right. With surfing, the ONLY constant is the board, everything else changes, your position on the board is different EVERY wave, EVERY wave is different, no two are the same, then add in that if you're surfing reef breaks, that the water is shallow, if you fall you will be bragged across lethal coral, drawing is a real risk, as well as impact injures etc etc,, oh then there's the man in the grey suit, but I won't go into that. Mountain biking is a great sport, but at ground level, it's riding a bike, the only thing that's moving is you... I love it, but it is no way the pinnacle of human performance...
  • 1 0
 damn you auto correct...
  • 6 0
 I think if you look at the top level athletes in any sport, you will find remarkable and special atheletes all with an incredible amount of natural talent. Each sports requires a bit different skill set (strength, speed, agility, etc) along with sport specific skills, so it's very difficult to single anyone out as the best,
  • 6 1
 I was watching a clip about Vikings (TV show) and thought being a Viking is top dog in terms of demanding the most elite athletic prowess. Guess I've been living a bit too much on my seat, being ignorant of the rest of the world...
  • 6 2
 Ski racing. It requires balance strength, cardio, mental strength, extreme precision, and a bill ol' set of balls. People will deny this because I'm talking about this on pinkbike but think about it. Think of what you would be throwing yourself into, a track where you accelerate to speeds up to 161km/h and if you make one mistake you could be ripped to shreds.
  • 5 0
 ^what he said. Alpine ski racers have entered fitness comps and have absolutely destroyed others. Those guys handle crazy G forces and speeds of up to 160km/h. They train for strength, cardio, agility, and the sport is fairly old and the talent pool is pretty deep. The guys and girls at the top have been in the gym since they were like 12 hitting the weights hard. Check out the legs and core on any WC alpine racer (current or retired), guys like Bode Miller or Herman Maier are ridiculously fit and strong, and the consequences crashing can be pretty darn gnarly. Unlike DH which sees predominantly upper body injuries, people tend to blow ACLS in alpine skiing or suffer major head trauma. Over the history, people have in fact passed away or lost parts of their leg due to crashes. I think training is pretty darn sport specific, but I'm willing to bet if you did fitness testing (most sports do repeatable and generic tests for watt power in legs, v02 max, etc) alpine racers tends to to pretty darn well. Until someone has numbers to throw down this is all purely speculation and obviously on a DH biking website bikers will think their sport has the fittest athletes, ditto for moto guys on a moto website, or whatever sport you hold in bias.
  • 2 0
 Also the fact that most racers do not just race one discipline. Some will race all five, some will race only one or two. However if they race slalom, they will probably be training slalom almost everyday, in order to keep the skills required for the discipline. Only Downhill and Super G allow the racers to train on the track prior to the race. All other disciplines allow the racer to only to have a visual inspection of the course. While the skills, and mental game is important, the equipment plays an important role as well. Ski edges have to be filed to certain degrees, and if they are off by one degree it has a noticeable effect, on the sharpness, or the time it takes to switch edges. Bindings if not tuned for the track can also mean the difference between an injury or not. The racing aspects of both sports are very similar, but the preparation for skiing is much harder than mountain bike racing.
  • 6 2
 Sure, DH riders have to process a lot of information, but maybe that's for the better.
Imagine the guys doing Ironman triathlons: they're on their own for at least 8 hours, have to go through sunburns, cramps, headwinds, getting passed by others and still keep a high spirit.
These guys and gals are definitely at the top of the "athlete chain", both mentally and physically.
  • 5 0
 What makes mtb stand out is the combination of technical AND physical aspects. Street bmx or skateboarding are the ultimate technical sports (even though they don't like to be called athletes), running or road cycling is physically the most demanding thing to do but neither really requires the other skill set and that is where mtb along with MX and race bmx) stand out.

Which is also one of the reasons that I like this sport so much, coming home both battered and satisfied with the technical progress or flow.
  • 4 1
 The real DH is clearly a risky sport, and when it comes to extreme sports the key is not athlete's ability to process data but their attitude. This is more a matter of balls than technnical skills.
Obviously when speaking about real DH I'm not referring to what I usually see in the bikepark. All those brats with €6,000 bikes riding at a ridiculous speed, doing pathetic stupid little jumps that could be done on a hardtail. I'm referring to the risk of hitting on a bed of rocks at 70 kmh .
  • 1 0
 Yeah, that's being mentally strong. That's comparable to endurance sports, where you need to have the mental strength to crack on even though your body is screaming for rest
  • 3 0
 Athlete-on-athlete death match?... MMA fighter beats DH racer every time... unless a DH racer also does MMA... Then it'd be a double KO!

Seriously though, I reckon athletes that do more than one thing are the better overall athletes (even though they may not be at the pinnacle of the world for any specific single event) so I'm thinking triathletes and any other adventure type racer.
  • 3 0
 As all sports evolve both the difficulty levels and the competitors ability inevitably are advancing all the time. It's a very subjective topic and I'd suggest that those who compete at the top of their chosen sport would nearly all state that athletes in other sports could not do what they do and vice versa. The one thing that I think is highly relevant to MTB, specifically DH, is that the added variables found with the terrain and conditions means that even if you're the most finely tuned athlete with an incomparable skill with a bike, there's always going to be an element of unknown in every competitive race. This ability to read and remember a course well enough to plot a line after just a couple of practises is highly impressive, given that a slight error in speed or entry to an obstacle immediately changes the techniques needed to overcome it.

In my opinion there are more physically demanding sports than DH MTB and there are more technical/skillful sports than DH MTB; there aren't that many that demand such a high level of both attributes though.
  • 3 0
 This is just a silly post... Most sports and the reason i say most is because people call things like nascar a sport (fat people driving in circles is not a sport)... Anyways most sports are all physically demanding in their own way and a professional in mountain biking may suck at another sport and vise versa. Who's to say which is the most difficult... Not the mountain biker saying its mountain biking...
  • 3 1
 I used to play hockey. Hockey requires way more physical endurance than any biking. I do 60-70 km rides in the southern Chilcoatins and that is very tiring but nothing compares to an intensce hockey game. After 60 minutes of die hard playing you are done. All the top NHL players are way more strong then any other athlete in any sport.
  • 2 0
 I was wondering when a real Canadian would step in to claim this. In terms of sheer athletic ability? Hands down hockey ranks up the in the top 1 or 2. Hand eye coordination, the ability to think/react at an extremely high speed, add to the mix a 220lb behemoth trying to paste you into the cheap seats...High altitude mountaineering, rock & ice climbing probably require the most stamina & focus. I used to laugh when I was told I was crazy for climbing, far from it, climbing requires a level of concentration & attention to detail that I haven't found in any other sport. Having said all this, I still love to ride.
  • 7 5
 I'd say that at elite levels, swimming is the absolute peak of human physical performance, marathon takes the cake mentally, and team sports wins in terms of emotion. That being said, none of those sports are as good as mountain biking 2 cents
  • 2 1
 You probably forgot triathlon for the mental aspect. Physically too. Although I don't think there is one "ultimate" sport in terms of physical performance.
  • 3 0
 I once ate a large pizza (loaded) in 3.5 minutes.........
  • 1 0
 I dunno about the emotion thing with team sports... Crossing a finish line after giving everything inside of yourself only to be told that it wasn't good enough is goddamn tough, as is the feeling of triumph as you look back at that clock and watch it go green. Feeling is personal, however, and I do agree that it depends on the person and the athlete and the circumstance. Wink Great input!
  • 2 0
 The mental and physical skills I have learned throughout my riding life (15 years) has helped me with everything else I have ever done. Riding lines fast on a bike has made it easier for me to see the line while racing cars, karts, motorcycles...anything speed junkie related. I really like this article and the title.... being a fan of Mr Miles Davis.
  • 3 1
 In terms of human-powered sport, I'd say that MTB (at an elite level) is right up there with Ironman triathlons, ultra marathons, and high-consequence alpine touring. That being said, I still thing F1 may be the absolute pinnacle of human athleticism, even though it's not specifically a "people power" sport. Same goes for Grand Prix level show jumping on horses; imagine riding a DH course, only your bike has a mind and self-preservation tactics of its own that you have to deal with while racing the clock...
  • 3 0
 I think the people powered part is pretty critical in the sense of trying to define athleticism though. Sure you need to be very fit for f1 and the instinct and reactions of the drivers is ridiculously good but at the end of the day, the engine is doing a lot of the work.
  • 2 0
 F1 drivers stay fit for weight reduction and stable car setup parameters. Fitness reduces fatigue and allows them to maintain focus under stress. They do not having to worry about cramps, hydration and nutrition in relation to specific race day track environments TO THE EXTENT that a human power athlete does. If an F1 driver is sick or injured he may still place well but a you rarely see sick or injured nonmotorized athlete perform well under illness.
  • 3 0
 Futhermore, look at the result of Top Gears "Star in a Reasonably Priced Car" and compare the times of celebrity drivers with that of professional drivers. Some of the celebrity drivers, despite not being professionals, bested some F1 drivers. Now sure, put those celebrities in an F1 car and they'd probably wreck, but that's because they've never spent any time in the pinnacle of racing engineered machinery. The reason the F1 drivers are the top of the sport is because they started in karts as kids and had rich parents or sponsors who moved them up the ranks, not necessarily because they were "naturals". Do you think Lewis Hamiliton could stand any chance against Jared Graves?
  • 1 0
 I almost agree, but when we're talking 'pinnacle of human athletic performance', person-powered sport is almost a required condition. An engine may be heavy, but ultimately, it's a source of propulsion. Self-powered sport is in a league of it's own as it's not just fuel from a can you dump in the 'engine' (despite what energy drink companies would like us to believe), but months or even years of preparation, training and commitment. Smile
  • 6 4
 Didn't bother to read the article but the premise is completely ridiculous and pointless. One could argue that to compete at an elite level in any sport is the pinnacle. Try looking through another lens. Oh and thanks for the disclaimer off the top.
  • 2 0
 Impossible to argue that MTB is the best sport. First of all, it's expensive. You are conditioned by the terrain near you. If done incorrectly ( not wearing safety gear, not maintaining your gear, not ajusting your position to suit your body ) may lead to a lot of physiological problems.
I guess you could argue that the cinematics of the sport put your mind & body through a more or less complete set of efforts, but then again so does triathlon .
  • 2 0
 Agree to several comments gere. To be a good mtbker or a pro you shall excel at many things and your training goes beyond daily shuttles (strength, mental, flex training etc.)

Given that and being and F1 and MotoGP follower, I think top level GP or F1 riders are more "fit" and their level of training goes to another level.

I'm not saying DH WC is a joke, it takes alot to be at an elite level, I just think that up until now, there are other sports that requires the rider or user to be "fitter" or a better athlete as an overall.
  • 2 0
 I have to go with motocross. If I was a top downhill racer I would use moto for training. I played rugby and lacrosse at a high level and have never been in better shape than when I was riding my dirt bike a lot. Higher speeds, 200 plus pound machines with the power of a team of horses. Now I shuttle or take a chair because I am old and fat.
  • 2 0
 Is Mountain Biking the Pinnacle of Human Athletic Performance?

To answer this question we must take into account three different factors (there're others, but imo they are less important):
- physical demand,
- technical skills,
- and exposure to serious injury or even death.

Those sports which only require physical effort are the most accessible and easy to do (road cycling, hiking, athletics). Those that combine physical effort and technique are more complicated, and usually require a greater mental strength (swimming, tennis, surfing). But those which, in addition to be demanding both physically and technically, allow very few errors (one single mistake may be lethal) are the Pinnacle of Human Athletic Performance for sure.

I can't think of anything more hard, more risky and more mentally demanding than high-altitude mountaineering and rock climbing.
  • 3 0
 Adrenaline scale 1. Moto road race 2. Moto x race 3. Mtb Not raced mtb- not good enough yet. I still love mtb the best to get away and one on one physical test where power is from me and not KZ green.
  • 1 0
 I say too, very thought provoking, agree totally with ronnyg801. That said your pieces so far have been great reads. It is great to see something different to read from the mindset of a fellow rider, especially sharing the love for the same disciplines, whcih I suppose makes me a bit biased. We need more things like this more people opening up and letting it all hang out. Hell they should have a segment called something like "Every Day Joe", where once a week you get perspective from something other than a sponsor, sales pitch, or track/race report. Not that these are not interesting or informative, but seeing what the real face of the mtb community is like through the eyes of it's mass, not an elite few, no knock at your segment Amanda Batty because this is exactly what we need. Great job keep it up, and keep tearing up those races.
  • 1 0
 Had anyone even wreslte here? I mean granted mtbing is extremely tough and requires 100% focus with lots of input, I would still say that wreslting/mma requires a lot more physically and mentally. To step into a ring with a man who you know wants to hurt you and you know you need to hurt then takes a whole lot more mentally just to start! Not only is it mental, but it literally is a battle of who gives up physically first. It takes your body to the absolute limit then pushes you over it to see who's got more. That's just my 2 cents
  • 4 3
 Hrm, where to begin… not that I really have that much stewing upstairs…

I think that mountain biking is one of the really rare disciplines where cross training isn't as important, that the actual act of riding in your discipline is almost always going to be the largest key in helping you be the best YOU can be at said discipline. Obviously doing weight training and riding road, running etc will help (small percentages IMO) but with diminishing returns as compared to the over all benefit of just bike time. What I mean by that is the vast majority of us would do far better just spending time riding as practice or fun to become a better rider and possibly place well at the next race. There are always exceptions though.

I think that if I were to place the title on pinnacle of athletic performance with the most on the line, I would say motocross would be my vote. It has almost all the same attributes that add to its difficulty in mountain biking as you said above but at a higher speed and with 20 other riders in the mix. Again my opinion and not looking to get into a pissing match. If you have ever looked in to their training regimens they are absolute animals and their seasons run far longer, have more stops per year with less breaks in between, and thats BEFORE you get to the outdoor season. Its basically live to race/train until your career is done or an injury stops/prevents training/racing.

Most high level racing has a lot of the similar attributes and levels of difficulty but placing endurance and focus a bit differently in each discipline. Ones that come to mind is rally racing, baja's, stadium/ trophy truck racing, F1, all very demanding in focus and endurance where the smallest mistake can prove very high risk.

I would say though that Mountain Biking(I guess DH a bit more specifically) is definitely top ten in the "pinnacle of performance" in my eyes, if not top five.
  • 2 1
 Ha ha, no 'pissing match' here! I completely agree -- moto and F1 immediately came to mind while writing the title of this. Awesome thoughts... And wordier than usual. Wink I'm a fan of this ronnyg brain flow.
  • 2 1
 I know you have to be fit to ride moto and F1 but i doubt any moto or F1 guy is as fit as say Remy Absolom or any top enduro or XC guy. Sure Roadies may be fitter but they don't have to deal with as many inputs as MTBers. Mountain biking is like Rally driving, road racing and gymnastics all thrown into one if you take into account all disciplines or even just aggressive back country free riding.
  • 1 0
 At the end of the day put an Enduro MTB athlete against an F1 driver and an MX racer in a foot race and the MTB guy will probably win provided the other two don't run miles for training. That same MTB rider could probably do far better at MX than the F1 driver and with some training could probably learn to handle an F1 car. I love F1 but their skill is a product of spending lots of time behind the wheel and opportunities that allow them to progress. I'd say there are more people in the world that provided with the same opportunities could challenge F1 drivers but the same could not be said for the MTB racer. Lots of people race bicycles and very few can can compete at the professional level despite similar training.
  • 1 0
 I am in the exact same mind as yourself for years. Its clear that all sports put in 100% effort to training but very few stretch a rider over so many aspects that need to be trained at a high level, many have much more direct training in fewer areas. After all we use road riding as a training tool for dh.

Further that downhill specifically but all MTB'ing is much more mentally challenging than others, running 100meters even at a Olympic level is hard but still much easier mentally than facing the direct fear and danger that is downhill/mtbing and then we have the pressure of been a professional and doing your best as well and thats before we have to think and process everything blindly as the track changes drastically.

To add another factor in the mix we than have massive variation in track and weather. There are many external factors in play that offer high levels of variance.

I really see downhill specifically as one of the pinnacle sports up there with motocross and f1 racing.
Its f1 racing, with only one lap no second chances and not on a flat track but instead a ever changing track littered with danger.

I think it is said very well at the beginning of F1RST:
"Picture an olympic sprint runner full flight. Now picture him trying to juggle while trying to memorize a complex sequence of numbers, and you will begin to see the complexities involved in the sport we are talking about."
  • 6 0
 No lol I'm very unfit
  • 1 0
 high risk sports that mind and body have to be on par or you down for the count no if ands or butts,MOTTO,SURF,SKI,SNOWBOARD,DH BIKE,these are all high risk.Now the ball sports ya there good but the speed is slow you can stop at any time and they make more for less risk,now on a dh run or the other that i put for risk sports high speed and on edge of fine line there is no stopping once you start.SO it all comes down to apples or banana's or E over MC square or the hutchinson affect,or fun.
  • 2 1
 Badminton.

No, seriously, I get blown away by motocross. In DH, I complain about arm pump, cardio, braking bumps, and unreal terrain.. then I take a look at motocross and feel ashamed about my trivial complaints. People mistakenly think that things with motors are less cardio intensive than running/cycling, but imagine man-handling a 250lb machine, having much longer lengths of competition without a chance for hydration or "straightaways to sit and rest for a second", overjumping to flat from X feet above the ground, and all the other competitors around you.. not to mention the consequences of bailing.

As far as being busy, MMA fighters seem to have their plate full with cardio training, strength-conditioning, multiple workouts a day with BJJ, and then striking/muay thai, and wrestling. Oh, and then the weight cut, which they often say is worse than the fight, itself.

Then there's odd sports which are not as difficult as you'd think. Bodybuilding is not easy(or healthy for a lot of the competitors), but they aren't "spending hours in the gym everyday" like some think. Muscles get over-trained really quickly, so you can only spend so much time actually lifting weights, and the rest is often diet/cardio and getting as much rest as possible.
  • 1 0
 Yep my call would be on MX being the pinnacle in term of fitness, mental state and danger , arm pump on a 3 minute DH ? Imagine having another 30 mins or more to go , and if you come off then i's time to get real scared ,not just from the crash but the rest of the guys trying to avid running you over!
  • 1 1
 I can't really comment on MX myself but if you saying its more athletic than DH because of the short runs in downhill then what about enduro? Its riding dh almost to the same intensity and then riding between stages for the next one. I'm sure its hard work handling a big MX bike but the fact that a push bike doesn't have an engine surely counts for a lot
  • 2 0
 Something that people tend to overlook about racing motocross is that having an engine actually tires you out. They're controlling this 50hp bike, being on the gas is a workout in itself. That's why a lot of off road guys go with smaller cc bikes because it doesn't beat them up as much, and thus they can go faster further into the race. Same reason why flywheel weights and auto clutches are used, it makes you less tired because it better controls the power of the bike. With a dirtbike, there is no real rest unless you get stop and get off the bike. Coasting still is punishing deep into a race.
  • 1 1
 You guys are ignoring Enduro Mtb. MX is intense and requires both physical and technical conditioning but very little cardio involved. Cardio conditioning is mostly just for reduction of fatigue. Enduro MX is less intense so more time to rest between physical exertion.
  • 2 0
 have you raced a motocross bike? MX or enduro mx? You race at max heart rate for the entire length of the race, drooling, lactate acid dripping from your eyeballs. And its not just your legs that are wrecked, your whole upper body is too.
  • 1 0
 The difference is that your typical weekend warrior MX rider could finish a professional event. He might be dead last by a large margin, maybe even getting lapped, but he'd probably finish. Could you ride the 100+ miles over two days that pro Enduro riders do? I don't think the average weekend warrior could even finish a pro MTB event before bonking.
  • 1 0
 It doesn't matter what level, the beginner and the pro are putting in huge efforts. The difference is one is condition to stay at high output for longer. Do you know how many weekend warriors compete in longer mtb races? Lots. I think you are another guy who has never raced a motorcycle. I have race mx, enduro mx, mtb xc, dh, enduro mtb, and even road.
  • 2 0
 Wayne, my question would be, if you've done both, which have won more at? We can't just say "what are the chances of going pro" we've got to look at the competition. I don't doubt MX racers are not incredibly fit, but what I'm saying is that a guy who is a the top of his game (Pastrana) will find A LOT more competition in MTB. If you want to be at the highest levels of MTB, whether DH, Enduro or XC, you've got devote the majority of your training to pushing pedals. None of this MX/Rally/Monstertruck/NASCAR/MTB cross training stuff.
  • 2 0
 I agree PHeller. Wayne- I've grown up racing motocross, never raced pro because I couldn't afford it past the age of 20 with how expensive it becomes at that level. That being said, my legs and upper body was never as wrecked like mine are from racing 20 or more miles of a MTB enduro while being in much better shape these days than my moto days. Being loose on a moto solves most of the issues you speak of. I assure you that pro moto athletes are in incredible shape, but not a damn one of them looks like Jared Graves. Haha.
  • 1 0
 I think it's up there with a few different sports which require high levels of fitness as well as the ability to process multiple sensory inputs, rugby (league and union), soccer (for all you Americans), aspects of American football, and many other high intensity team games, interestingly I would say in terms of the quantity of things you need to process it's more similar to team sports than many individual sports.
  • 2 0
 It's 5:15 AM and I'm about to really put those skills to the test. Really gotta think in addition to huff and puff when you ride this early. So agreed. I often say to myself "wake up a*shole" when I ride this early.
  • 5 0
 Because Free climbing is easy...
  • 2 1
 This is laughable, mountain bikers are far from the top athletes in the world and I love mountain biking. One sport that quickly comes to mind is MMA. Others have been arguing about MX, and I am of the opinion MX requires more athleticism than mountain biking.
  • 1 0
 I agree
  • 1 0
 Neither of those sports are a test of aerobic fitness. I used to ride with a MMA trainer/fighter and his aerobic fitness is absolutely woefull 3 min rounds cant test endurance or fitness and MX races of 2 hours will see never see your heart rate go up like riding up a single hill. If you count flexibilty courage endurance power as fitness then MMA and MX will fall short in some areas
  • 1 0
 I once rode with this mountain biker and he absolutely sucked at climbing,his aerobic fitness was absolutely woeful, see how that works. Do you understand the difference between aerobic fitness and anaerobic fitness, since you contradict yourself? This article was written merely to cause a pissing match, so you can think mountain biking is the pinnacle of athletic performance and I will think otherwise.
  • 1 0
 Being a trainer I believe he is a good representative for MMA fighters thats why I mentioned him, I was not trying to say one example will always apply to all instances. Not sure how I contradict myself. If I dont know the difference kindly explain it to me. I agree to the motives of the author and I actually dont think that MTB is the pinnacle of human athletic performance, but there are also reasons MX and MMA are not either. I think if you want to discuss the subject you should first define what you mean by the pinnacle of human athletic performance.
  • 1 0
 If you're not suffering from the tunnel vision common to a DHer the answer is very obvious. There is no other sport that requires the levels of balance, strength, endurance, agility, flexibility, focus, co-ordination & nerve that gymnastics does. Riding a bicycle over a few roots & rocks is almost always, not that f*ckin' hard.

If you're gonna throw trials in there as "mountain biking" as well then maybe you have something to talk about, but as much as I am a trials freak, it still just doesn't compare. The combination of all athletic qualities are absolutely at their highest levels overall in gymnastics. The only other thing I could think of MIGHT be figure skating but I don't see it taking the nerve or the agility that gymnastics does. You try back flipping on a 4" wide balance beam there woman & then ask a gymnast to see if they can ride their $10,000 (artificially inflated price of course) bicycle down a hill over some rocks. Come on. Look at the physical condition those f*ckers are in. Rock solid yet pliable as putty all at the same time. There's nothing else out there that requires it all like gymnastics does. Semenuk may have more balls than Joe gymnast & D-Mac may have better balance, but considering all possible athletic qualities, gymnasts are the pinnacle of human athletic ability.

Too bad we couldn't get Granieri in here for word up.
  • 1 0
 as a person who grew up playing team sports and skateboarding then racing downhill at an elite level I found that downhilling has helped me so much with becoming above average at every other sport I participate in. First day of white water kayaking and i was already rolling and second day i was running class 4 big water rapids. snowboarding is another sport as well as skiing that came so naturally after downhilling for years. I dont know if mountain bikers are the very pinnacle of human performance but i would say that we must be damn close as the skills I developed in mountain biking have allowed me to jump seamlessly into many other extreme sports such as white water rafting/kayaking, dirtbiking, snowboarding, skiing, rock climbing, ice climbing, and slacklining
  • 1 0
 Most fit athletes? Probably not. I'd say the most fit athletes with the best levels of functional strength and timing goes to those freakazoids from cirq du solei, dudes picking each other up by one arm flipping and catching each other with their bare hands... Insane. However, mountain biking definitely takes the top "funnest sport ever" title.
  • 1 0
 Apparently no one has tried rock climbing (outdoor - especially big wall). Back in the day I use to work on and off as a climbing guide in West Virginia and if there is any one activity that will turn harden men into puddles of urine it's the fear of falling. Sure everyone is macho on the ground, but get even a rugby player a few hundred feet off of the ground with some great exposure and - BAM - legs start shaking, hands start sweating, whimpers start escaping and the look of terror creeps across the manliest of faces.

Plus climbing is FREAKING HARD and FREAKING SCARY! It's the full body work out of a swimmer, the stamina of a runner, the power of a weight lifter, the grace of a ballerina and the concentration of a competitive chess player all while attached to a rock face by the tips of your fingers and toes.

110% mental and 110% physical

In 1994 Lynn Hill free climbed the Nose on El Capitan in under 24 hours, a feat that wasn't repeated until 10 years later (as of today only repeated by three people) and regarded by many as one of the greatest physical achievements of all time.
  • 1 0
 Extremist, mma and ufc are spectator sports. First, there isn't too much real world application since you're training to compete in a controlled surrounding such as a ring. Second its timed with a ref. In the real world and the streets you get none of that. You also don't get the joy of tapping out. In the streets you fight for your life, not a check or a trophy. As a black belt I see mma as a mockery of the real martial arts that holds no value whatsoever. Gbeard, climbing without a rope is like riding without a helmet. You're exercising your lack of intelligence by taking your chances. It doesn't take skill to ditch a rope or helmet because anyone can do it. The physical ability to climb requires skill and I certainly respect that but anyone who doesn't do it safe not only takes chances with their life but gives the sport and its athletes a bad image. Of course, Darwinism is great about eliminating the foolish.
  • 1 1
 MTB requires strength, balance, endurance, special equipment, and so much more. The only factor that I feel mountain biking is missing is form. Of course form is important, but I mean true control of the body as seen in something such as gymnasts. Of course I feel that MTB is THE SHIT but, to be fair, I have considered ALL aspects of what makes sports impressive and that is the one that we lack. (Unless Amanda Batty starts busting out yoga poses in the middle of her DH runs)
Love ya Batts! Cant wait to see you this week. Keep up the good work.
  • 3 0
 Mountainbiking will save the planet, when Aliens invade only riders will survive
  • 1 2
 when the do invade, you better invent some smart shit technology that gonna talk to them. or we are fucked!
  • 1 0
 In terms of survival a lot of people can learn the basics of a language in matter of weeks or even days
  • 1 0
 Hey fuckers that was an attend of joke if u noticed
  • 1 1
 Sorry but there many more sports out there that are tougher than mountain biking.for a start rugby,and I mean proper rugby not American football with loads of armour on.i would say skiing and snowboarding too.i think mountain biking is a good tough training regime for other sports,I played a good standard of football for many years and used cycling as a build up for leg muscles and cardio.my friend is a pro skier an he too uses cycling for extra fitness.but I don't think it's the pinnacle.tennis takes more mind concentration than biking.so does swimming.and I'm not hear to screw cycling down as I love the sport too but I just think IMO that other sports are way more challenging on the body and mind
  • 1 1
 Why does swimming take so much mind control? I realise there's probably more to it than it first appears but surely hitting speeds of up to 40mph whilst threading between rocks and trees on a track that constantly changes through a race weekend takes more concentration than swimming up and down a pool?
  • 4 0
 is it bad if we drink beer on the trail as our energy drinks?
  • 4 2
 defiantly not, mountain biking is a very easy sport, and if you compare the top athletes from most sports with top mountain bikers, the other athletes will be much fitter
  • 2 3
 It is only an easy sport because it is so young and the pros aren't very professional yet. More like professional.
  • 1 2
 Brofessional I mean
  • 1 0
 Mountain biking, when done correctly, isn't a 'very easy sport', and it's actually older than snowboarding... So it's neither 'young' nor 'unprofessional', especially seeing as how at one point in the (distant) past, select pro DH racers made six figure incomes.

It also depends on the discipline and the athlete. Generalizing it all into 'very easy' is wrong, especially when in recent years, we've seen some incredible feats from very talented athletes.
  • 2 3
 Nope, it's an easy sport for sure. For example lets compare mountain biking to tennis. A person who has never played tennis will have to spend a loot of time practising,before they have the proper technique to actually play the sport. On the other hand, give anyone who can ride a bike (most people over the age of 4), and they will be able to ride many trails.

A personal example I have, is that a buddy of mine who started mountain biking last year, and rode DH trails on like 5 different days, was able to ride, at a decent speed, black diamond downhill trails on a dirt jumper... (most people at this bike park have full on DH rigs).

Don't get me wrong I love mountain biking and it's basically all I do in my spare time, but I can admit it is an easy sport. By the way I do not play tennis, just in case you think I am biased.
  • 3 2
 Riding a trail =/= sport

Anyone who isn't absolutely devoid of talent can play tennis for fun. Anyone.

Or maybe I'm just a golden god.
  • 1 2
 If riding a trail on a mountain or hill on a bike is not mountain biking, then I don't know what is. And no, most people can not just pick up a racquet and keep the ball up for more than two hits. Plus that was just an example, I'm sure there are harder sports than tennis.
  • 2 1
 This article is not referring to casual mountain biking though, it is referring to the pinnacle of mountain biking. If you think this sport is easy at the highest level then maybe you have been hanging with rob ford too much.
  • 1 2
 Then why could me friend, who is a beginner, ride a DH specific trail made for advanced riders... with a hardtail and 100mm of front suspension? Simply because this sport isn't too hard.
  • 2 1
 Okay. I can drive the hardest f1 track in a fiat 500 going 50km/h. F1 isn't a hard sport at all.

Just consider it. You're either trolling or not thinking clearly
  • 1 2
 Well, it must suck to be a bad rider. I personally find it easy
  • 2 1
 Okay, but that just shows how mediocre you are. In the end, you shouldn't troll me because I take the bait on purpose just to make trolls look stupid.
  • 3 0
 I dunno about the question posed by the article, but it seems like MTB sure does like to pat itself on the back.
  • 1 0
 I've seen some pretty out of shape schlubs at bike parks and even out on the trails pedaling. You can be good at mountain biking (especially gravity disciplines) without being an 'athlete'.
  • 1 1
 So the question is " is mtn biking the pinnacle of human athletic prowess?" This is obviously just opinion, unless science has made the determination. In my OPINION, a great athlete has high levels of; endurance, explosive speed, strength, flexibility, dexterity, situational awareness, courage, selfishness, unselfishness, great overall kinaesthetic awareness, understanding of strategy, ability to read the opponent or playing field, fine motor skills, hand eye coordination, balance, foot eye coordination, versatility, and the desire to compete/ win.
Mountain biking does not require all of these, especially in the fine motor and hand eye, foot eye categories. Crossfit is just exercise, it's not a sport. MMA and Muay Thai do not require all of these abilities- my fight club has heaps of very good fighters who are kinda clumsy tbh. Motor cross is very demanding and has lots of great athletes participating in it.
U
The two sports, in my opinion, that demands from its athletes the most from these categories is rugby and hockey. Rugby demands more foot eye and endurance, hockey demands more balance, hand eye and explosive speed. High level athletes from these sports could transition successfully to more different sports and athletic endeavours than any other athletes. I'm sure some will disagree, and god knows the first rule of crossfit is- tell everyone about crossfit, as well as the second rule- but if you OBJECTIVELY think about sports and what makes good athletes, these sports make the best.
My 2 cents.
  • 1 0
 Obviously totally an opinion as stated at the beginning of the article in BOLD. However, your opinion is an interesting one, and very valid, although different disciplines of MTB do require quite a large array of the qualities you listed... Though a small percentage of mountain bikers actually use or posess those qualities and skills, so it is rather subjective from athlete to athlete and discipline to discipline.
  • 1 0
 This is very true, I would identify the lack of need for hand/ foot to eye coordination as focal points against why mtn biking athletes would rate higher than my suggested sports choices. Otherwise it checks most of the boxes.
  • 1 0
 Isle of Man TT riders?...manipulating circa 180kgs at insane speeds, a moments lapse in concentration and you're picking your self up or being picked up out of some old lady's front room.
  • 1 0
 I'm a mt.biker 1st, then marathon runner, but have you guys seen any of the top level athletes in the Rebook Cross Fit Games? Insane!
  • 2 0
 They certainly do well in " who's the best exerciser", but I guess some of us throw the word "sport" and " athlete" around more freely then others. But fit, definitely. Athletes? Nope just exercisers. Good ones.
  • 1 0
 It is what it is and I love it but please, let's keep it to ourselves........
  • 3 1
 Is Mountain Biking the Pinnacle of Human Athletic Performance?
NO
  • 3 3
 I love MTB of all types, I love MMA as well, but MMA is the toughest sport out there, no disrespect to anyone because MTB is a very exhausting sport also.
  • 3 0
 what an ignorant thing to say
  • 1 1
 Has anyone mentioned an NFL Running Back?


What other sport calls it's finest specimens "rundown and slow" when they near 30 years old?
  • 1 0
 It is the ultimate cross of man and machine in which both parts are equal and both deserve the utmost respect.
  • 3 1
 Climbing is on top, then mountain biking.
  • 2 0
 Makes Troy Brosnan the King ATM . #SA_MTB
  • 3 2
 Alpine climbing is the pinnacle of human athletic performance, no doubt in my mind.
  • 1 0
 It certainly is at the very top... although at some point is starts to be more about the mind and experience not the body. You have guys climbing 8k peaks in winter when they are 55, so way too old to excel in most other disciplines. But certainly a good point you made.
  • 1 0
 I agree, alpine climbing, mountainering is the most demanding I think, And the fact that you can climb with an advanced age make it even more the ultimate as the experience you gather is useful and therefore is a very complete sport
  • 1 0
 Seriously. Watch this and tell me that's not the absolute pinnacle. Puke-inducing cardio? Check. Inhuman technical skill? Check. Consequences for failure? Check. Mental/intellectual challenge? Check.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzjpQF0_55A&feature=kp

Or the guys who set the ski mountaineering speed record on Rainier. They did it literally NINE TIMES as fast as me. I can't even comprehend the fitness and strength needed to do that. And on top of that, while your lungs and muscles are screaming, you're scanning the glaciers for hazards and staying mentally sharp.
  • 2 2
 i remember surfing with Missy G, and she was sitting on the shoulder trying to figure it all out. Surfing well is harder than mtb.
  • 1 0
 The only thing i know for sure is, that Mountain biking is the most fun sport to me
  • 1 0
 For some it actually is--it is the pinnacle of that individual's performance. And that's all that matters.
  • 1 0
 It is still an extremely young sport. It has potential but it is not even close to being at its potential.
  • 1 0
 Ratboy won the same world cup that inspired this article and even the announcers commented in his party over training ways.
  • 1 0
 Just look at the level of skateboarding these days and you will have your answer :o)
  • 1 0
 What about water polo? Double Ironmans? Riders who did the Great Divide? Or that guy who did the Word Marathon Challenge?
  • 1 1
 Athlete on athlete death match? I'll take a mediocre MMA pro over any three top MTB pros of any discipline.
  • 1 1
 All these Canadians and no mention of hockey? A bit of rugby and it's a really good comparison but not as fast as hockey.
  • 1 0
 Triathlon has to be one of the hardest, surely
  • 1 0
 Ha ha ha. The title alone is enough to make me laugh!
  • 1 0
 I think Bo Jackson would have something to say about this.
  • 1 0
 No downhill is not at the. Pinnacle of human athlétic performance.
  • 1 0
 I think a lot of mma fighters might argue... Or fight you for it.
  • 2 2
 Please write a book Amanda!
  • 2 1
 ever heard of TRIATHLON?
  • 2 2
 Do you not think that a top level downhiller would do better at a triathlon than a pro triathlete would do at a downhill race though?
  • 2 2
 Pretty sure if you put an Ironman (or Irongirl) racer on a mountain bike and let them practice a couple times, yes I think they would do just fine. I don't know the last time you have swam 2 miles in open water but... that is a serious technical challenge. I don't think Atherton or Gwin could even complete the bike portion, let alone the swim and run.
  • 4 0
 You're kidding right? Id bet my ex wife's house that all the pro downhill guys could do a century on a road bike. I'm old and fat, and I can get through a 100 miler.
  • 3 0
 Totally agreed. In the offseason I'd bet racers like the Athertons put in as many miles on a road bike as your average triathlete. They'd smoke a road bike ride.

Interestingly enough, I spent some time with a multiple ironwoman at a mountain bike camp last week. And while she was a very good rider considering it was only her second season, and she's completed a few Xterrras, she certainly wasn't a downhiller. Riding downhill, especially on a technical track, requires a bunch of skills that roadies just don't have.

It always makes me laugh though, when people say "what's hard about riding a bike downhill?" Then you show them vids and watch their eyes pop out of their heads.
  • 1 0
 for biking i would definitely say yes. but i'm not so sure if they will survive the 4 kilometer swim and 70 kilometer run department. Smile
  • 1 0
 I'm not saying they'd do great, but i just think there's a better chance of them being able to do that than a triathlete being able to set a reasonable pace in a DH race.
  • 1 0
 TRYing to swim TRYing to run TRYing to bike
  • 2 1
 Cheerleading!!
  • 1 0
 Jo, men så e det jue
  • 1 0
 Don't be silly.
  • 1 0
 answer: yes
  • 2 3
 Remember Awaking Don't think FEEEEL
  • 1 0
 Anakin!!!!!!!! Stooped phone
  • 2 0
 Wasn't it Bruce Lee who said that?
  • 1 1
 Like a finger pointing to the mooooon
  • 2 3
 Yes. haven't actually read the article yet.. But Yes.
  • 2 4
 hmmmmm...
  • 8 1
 Don't you 'hmmmm' me... Wink What do you think, Justin?
Below threshold threads are hidden







Copyright © 2000 - 2024. Pinkbike.com. All rights reserved.
dv65 0.064716
Mobile Version of Website