Kona has been on a tear of late with new bike releases. We've already reviewed their new
Carbon Honzo and profiled the aggressive version of their Hei Hei race bike--the
Hei Hei DL. Today, Kona continues the trend, rolling out several completely new models. There are some plus-sized hardtails in the mix, a Honzo-fied version of their previous fat bike, and a new 27.5-wheeled Hei Hei Trail, which rocks 140-millimeters of travel front and rear. If you were expecting completely re-designed Process models, well, no dice there, though the company has tweaked the Process formula a bit. Finally, the Operator gets an entirely new frame that's burlier than its predecessor and which rolls on 27.5 hoops.
The Changes--At a Glance• Most models decrease slightly in price
• Operator gets 27.5 wheels and burlier frame
• Reach on Process models grows (on average) 15 millimeters
• All new, rowdier Hei Hei Trail features 140-mm of travel
• New Plus-size Honzo debuts
• There's now a Plus-size Unit for bike packing
• New Wozo model (fat bike with Honzo-esque geo)
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@konaworld Operator Goes 27.5No more 26-inch wheeled Operators. For 2017, Kona has three Operator models sporting new aluminum frames and all of them wearing 27.5-inch wheels. The bikes range in price from $3,199 (USD) for the base level Operator to $7,499 (USD)for the Supreme Operator. In other words, the entry level price for a Kona Operator drops a little more than a thousand bucks for 2017—good news for anyone who wants to race DH, but doesn’t have a swimming pool full of money sitting at home.
The mid-level Kona Operator DL.
Why the move to 27.5-inch wheels? I put the question to Kona's social media ninja, Caleb Smith.
“Well, it is kind of the march-of-progress thing," says Smith. "For a lot of downhillers these days, riders focused on every second on the clock, if the bike isn’t 27.5, they feel it’s a real disadvantage. The Operator is a downhill bike squarely aimed at World Cup racing. The input on the bike came from Connor [Fearon], Tegan [Molloy] and the rest of our gravity team, so that’s the direction the bike is going. We showed the bike last year in Bellingham and expected it to bring it out earlier than this, but there were some things we wanted to tweak and take further. As a result, this version is also much burlier. It’s super overbuilt....it’s just pretty cool. ”
Were you guys also concerned that some riders might be leery of continuing to buy a 26-inch version of the Operator, given that a growing number of new wheels, tires and forks out there are specifically 27.5?“Sure, that’s part of it and that matters to some riders," says Smith. "But a lot of the changes to the Operator just came down to building the bike that our World Cup riders wanted to race.”
Kona product manager, Ian Schmitt, summed up the rationale for the Operator's changes this way. "27.5” Wheels are fast. Connor is fast. 27.5” wheels and Connor are VERY fast. We also feel that the downhill bike needs to be the pinnacle of speed. The longer reach, slacker head angle and larger wheels (compared to 26” Operator) allow the bike to go faster on more severe terrain.
Process Grows Longer, SlackerIt's not as if Kona invented the long top-tube and short rear end layout. Specialized had been carrying that torch for years and Gary Fisher's entire late `90s credo (Genesis Geometry) was all about the reverse mullet. And, yes, there were frame builders doing that waaay before Gary. So, no, Kona didn't dream up the long, low and slack thing, but their Process bikes did a hell of a job of embodying it and changing the way other bike companies approached their own re-designs in recent years. Well, Kona is going a bit further for 2017 on the Proces models. On average, the bikes gain about 15 millimeters in reach and lose up to a degree in head angle. Seat angles change as well, steepening by a degree on the 153 and half a degree on the 134 and 111 models.
Okay, geekery aside, what does all this re-jiggering of the geo
do to the Process' wheelbase? As you'd expect, it lengthens it by roughly an inch on each model. A 2017 size Large Process 134 features a 47.1-inch (1198-millimeter) wheelbase, whereas a Large 2016 version of the Process 134 sports a 46.1-inch (1172-millimeter) wheelbase. There are some subtle tweaks to the models as well. The Process 111, for instance, gets a longer fork in 2017 (130 millimeters of travel versus 120 millimeters for the 2016 iteration).
Kona's Schmitt had this to say about the new Process.
"We had noticed that a lot of our customers were purchasing large bikes instead of mediums, even though they were closer to a medium frame fit. We built some prototype frames that had longer reach and slacker head angles to make sure that the new longer reach wouldn’t be an issue. All of our test riders found that the longer reach and slightly slacker head angles gave the bike a roomier feel but did not make the bike feel cumbersome in tight sections. This shift is the natural progression of our bike geometry. It is also interesting to note that the current Hei Hei models have a geometry that is very close to the original Process geometry. This new geometry shift for Process helps us further define the Hei Hei as our XC Trail range and the Process as our aggressive all mountain/enduro machines."
Perhaps the biggest news is that there are three fewer Process models in 2017. For the most part, it looks like a smart culling of the herd, with less obvious replication. It's also nice to see retail price drop a bit on all the Process models. That said, the loss of the Process 167 is a drag. The 26-inch wheeled, mini park-bike has a cult-following and is undeniably cool. That said, "cult following" is also a bit of a backhanded compliment that could just as well be summarized as "We really only seem to sell this bike to riders who work at bike shops" In short, the Process 167 probably didn't set any sales records.
"The 167 left the range for this year as the sales numbers just weren’t there to keep it in the line," confirms Schmitt. "We have a lot of models and a varied range of product all the way from our Dew models to the Operator. We have to be very careful to not spread ourselves too thin with the number of models that we make and the 167 just didn’t make the cut this year."
Kind of makes you wonder, though, how Kona will go about filling that niche in the near future....
Oh, and in case you were wondering, the 2017 Process models all feature 142x12 rear ends.
A Rowdier, Longer-Travel Hei HeiThe sheer numbers of Hei Hei models kind of says it all--this is a bike Kona thinks makes sense for a lot of riders, particularly since they've expanded the range from purely cross country (Hei Hei Race) to aggro cross-country (Hei Hei DL) to rowdy trail bike (the new Hei Hei Trail).
Since we've already covered the
Hei Hei DL, we'll focus on the three new Hei Hei Trail models. As with their shorter-travel predecessors, the Hei Hei Trails eschew the Rocker Independent Suspension design found on the Process models. Instead, Kona outfitted the Hei Hei Trail with the simpler and lighter Fuse Independent Suspension design. Fuse features a rear flex pivot rather than an actual seat or chainstay pivot. The big difference between this new Hei Hei Trail and the other Hei Hei models is tha it wears smaller 27.5-inch wheels and sports 140 millimeters of front and rear suspension--considerably more travel than the shorter the versions that debuted in 2016.
The Hei Hei Trail's geometry is surprisingly similar to that of the Process 134. Obviously, the rear suspension designs are entirely different, the top tube is shorter on the Hei Hei and the Hei Hei Trail frame is carbon, but the actual angles are only off by about a degree and the Hei Hei sports a lower bottom bracket and shorter chainstays. What sets the two bikes apart--in terms of actual ride quality--out on the trail?
"Well, you wouldn’t race the Hei Hei Trail in the Enduro World Series," says Kona's Caleb Smith. "In some ways the Hei Hei Trail is not the perfect Northwest bike, the way the Process is, but the Hei Hei Trail is the perfect trail bike for pretty much everywhere else: It has the right amount of travel you need, with the right fork. It’s a very versatile bike and it can handle being ridden aggressively, though we’re definitely not pitching it as a bike for doing monster hucks on. Whereas you
do see people doing double-duty with their Process bikes at the bike park and on the trail. This new Hei Hei Trail just isn’t as burly as the Process. The Process comes from an all-mountain lineage and the Hei Hei Trail still comes from a lighter, more cross-country lineage."
There are three Hei Hei Trail models for 2017. All three feature carbon frames. The Hei Hei Trail models all rock Boost 148 rear ends, as is the case with the five other Hei Hei models that were released in 2016.
Honzo Line Gains Plus-Size VersionsKona has been steadily growing the branches on the Honzo family tree. For 2017, there'll be no fewer than seven complete Honzo models and two frame-only options. A few weeks ago saw the debut of their new, lightweight carbon Honzo. Today, Kona rolls out two more aluminum Honzos. This time around, the Honzos are wearing plus-size tires. The Big Honzo DL will sell for $2,399 (also available as a $499 frame). There's also the more affordable ($1,699) Big Honzo (shown above). Both sport WTB Scraper STP i40 wheels paired with Schwalbe Nobby Nick 27.5x2.8 tires.
A "Rad" Fat Bike?And last, but not least, 2017 marks the debut of the Wozo--a cross between Kona's Honzo and their Wo fat bike. In a nutshell, the $2,399 Wozo brings some of the Honzo's long and slack geo to the fat bike world.
"It’s a more aggressive bike," explains Kona's Caleb Smith. "For starters, there's the Bluto fork, but the longer and slacker geometry also make it more trail oriented than most fat bikes, which really generally take their design cues from the touring background and have a steeper geometry that is really not that conducive to getting rad. The Wozo is definitely taking things in a different direction.”
"Wozo feels like a fat Honzo," say Schmitt. " We didn't want to just put a suspension fork on our Wo and call it the ‘trail’ version. We used the Wo frame tube set and built a new CS yoke to allow the chainstay to be as short as possible with the fat tires. We see the target customer as someone who rides a variety of terrain but wants to have a bike that still feels like a proper trail bike."
Is there a need for a radder flavor of fat bike? Having ridden precisely zero fat bike models to date, I'm the last person on earth qualified to weigh on that one, but if nothing else, it's proof that Kona continues to march to the beat of their own drum.
MENTIONS:
@konaworld
Did you buy one?
Also the issue with 26" wheels (that I ride) is that most of the new rim/tires/forks aren't made in 26" so 26" bikes are kinda stuck in 2013, which is rather annoying when you own one.
I was one of the few to buy a 167, and am completely happy with the bikes performance on the climb and descent. It climbs as well as a 153DL when set up properly. I'm not winning any races uphill - but i'm not disappointed either. And I can tell you forsure - it's a Coyote Wail better than a 153DL on the downhill Grins all day long.
The problem with the 167 is that the potential buying public is scared to drop new bike money on "old" "outdated" technology. The problem most buyers face is - head in sand syndrome. Just because Jenson USA no longer stocks it, must mean it's discontinued... right? Wrong. Maxxis just released the Minion SS Enduro Bro tire in 26". And many quality manufacturers are still building 26" stuff.
Kona, like magazine editors and the buying public may also have their heads in the sand. If a bike has 5" or 7" travel, it won't ride any different uphill - if setup correctly. I'm not sure what the push for small travel bikes is... Why limit yourself to 130 or 140mm? I went from 130mm 29er to the 167mm 26er, and couldn't be happier.
Not adding 27.5" wheels to the bike, and rather canning it was likely a rushed move on Kona's behalf. Magazine hype is a big thing, and you gotta meet the deadlines for the July launch of 2017 models.
The reason for the wheel size change, is to gain overall rolling diameter.
Overall rolling diameter is what allows that supposed "feel" everyone is talking about.
-With a 26x2.7 Minion DHF on my Process 167, it stands within hairs of the 27.5 x 2.4 Minion DHF on the wifes Process 153DL.
-I've swapped rear wheels on our bikes, and I fit a 27.5x2.4" tire on my 167 without any tire rub to frame.
So let me ask this... Is it wheel size that is making the difference?
Or is it ALL sales hype? The buying public is scared of possibly owning something which might become "extinct". In turn moving bike sales.
Who cares you ask? Apparently some care enough to completely drop models from the lineup, and some care enough to run away from 26" with their hands in the air.
You are right. If it rides well... Rip it!
I just don't see why everyone has to "run away" from something that has been an industry standard for the last 30 years.
I have always gone along with 27.5 being hype. To us mere mortals the difference between 26 and 27.5 is negligible. 29ers are a different story - there are definitely advantages and disadvantages to 29ers.
Wheel size, particularly if you're talking about anything other than 29ers has much more to do with tire profile and tread design. But the marketers and noob buying public are taking far too much notice of what is a tiny difference.
I was looking for new wheels and most of the 30mm ID options aren't available in 26 and those that are often are too expensive or too heavy. Same for forks, a lot of models only come in 27.5/29" now. You could argue you can get a 27.5 fork but I'm not sure the C2A dimension would be too wonky, already riding a 160mm on a bike meant for a 150mm, I don't want to bring the front end even higher and if I get my bars lower my shifter pod mangles my top tube when I crash.
So yeah, the difference between 26" and 27.5" is so marginal that I'm not going to get a 26" "out of principle" next time I buy a bike if it means I'm locked out of any post 2013 product. It's only going to get worse. I guess frame manufacturers won their bet.
@DARKSTAR63 Not sure what you're referring to by saying I'm refusing slightly larger wheels but I'm not using minions because they don't last in the trail conditions I ride and Double Down casing isn't available for 26" so I'm never putting anything made by maxxis on my bike again.
As for DD Casing.. That is relatively new. I ride hard, and have never gone "damn, I wish I had a DD casing". DD casing i'm suspecting is primarily marketing again.
I know some would say "yeah but single ply tires aren't made for DH" and my answer is: I'm trying to live the "1 bike dream" and so far, it is full of compromises...
If you are tearing up 700g tires, man up and pedal a HighrollerII uphill. It still rolls well, but will hold up to your weight/ riding style better.
Sales=product placement.
Gotta say thought, the lack of a carbon front triangle Process is pretty disappointing... it's not like people aren't voting with their wallets when it comes to carbon as a valid choice.
Where is he now?
However there is very little room at full compression with 26" wheels too...
I measured my mates 275 (HR2) v my 26 (DHF) and theres an inch difference. 1/2" on the radius... ie bugger all difference.
About 15+ miles on my usual trials and no pedal strikes, bike is a beast compared to my ht.
www.maxxis.com/catalog/tire-540-135-minion-dhf-plus
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I'm more than eager to try a set. Suggested internal rim width is 35mm and up.
Check out this thread:
www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=196384
'134 is useless imho. 153 is a very capable bike in all respects, one of the best in it's class. You have to have some minority complex going on, to go for 134.'
Waki, chill out. How many times have you told the Internet about your revelatory experience of getting rid of your '125mm blur trc'/ getting your long slack 160mm big boy bike and how stupid, pointless or useless you think shorter travel bikes are now. Or brought up this rediculous minority complex thing. Different strokes for different folks man. Just accept that not only do tons of people ride differently than you but also have different tastes as to how they like their bikes to handle and feel on the terrain they ride. Relax, Cut the toxic bs, and just enjoy the riding.
WOW. Other manufacturers list!
Thanks Kona. You are the best!
I'am so wrong… 'cause I am still focused to have fun and a good time!
And the 2015 26" Operator is my perfect ride for that.
So sick of all the racing stuff!
I've tried a lot of 27.5" and still thinking most of them are less fun to ride...
Having the option of extra travel when descending but not giving up climbing capabilities is a huge thing for a lot of people in mountain biking so the trail fits that. If you like pointing you bike straight down and "given'r" well then snag a process.
Have you ridden the new models?
The rest of the process lineup climbs pretty damn efficiently for what they are and the 111 is deffinitly no slouch.... buuut the new Hei Hei is just that much better, like more than I expected.
I spent about 6 hours on the hei Hei trail up on the north shore so I got a pretty decent day on it. Rode greens to techy double blacks and I really only felt I was pushing the bike a little to far when on extremley steep sections or bigger hitting drops. It doesn't mash down a section as well as my 111 but with a little more body English the bike can still do it.
And yeah.... I'd just stick with the alloy model. That fuse rear traingle I'm sure is crazy stiff on the carbon but it already felt really good in an alloy version. The alloy was already a decently light bike that didn't make me ever feel carbon was gonna be so much better.
Well the article makes it sound like they're only offering the 140mm Hei Hei in carbon ("There are three Hei Hei Trail models for 2017....All three feature carbon frames."), which was why I was surprised. It'll be a hell of a nice deal if they do offer an Al version. I'd be all over that.
Good to hear some beta from someone who's actually ridden one. I'm hoping to get a rowdy-ish bike that pedals and climbs well next year if I can get it by the appropriations committee (wife). An alloy Hei Hei trail would def be on the list.
Sure if you could only have one bike yeah I could see the 153 being the smarter choice being it is a very well rounded bike. For me having a DH bike already it took me a long while to decide between the 111 and the 134. I went with the 111 because it was going to be cheaper since I could go with just the frame set being as I already had all the parts on my Honzo. I'm the only one on a short travel 29er in my crew but I don't seem to be ever at the back of the pack.. so for me it's hard to think that the 27.5 134 would be "useless"
and whats with this Minority complex statement? would it have not made more sense to just break down with a little more detail why you feel the 134 is somewhat lost in the Kona lineup? I remember you making a comment about getting to be at a Kona demo day a while back so why not just lets us know why you think this way instead of just making other feels bad by some stupid ass comment about a bike they may be looking at.
didn't really hurt my feeling/feelings just rustled my feathers really good. or maybe he just stepped on my toes or whatever Idiom you prefer.
The Kona 'race light' alloy frames are up there with Giant Aluxx for mtb, IMO.
Now the Giant Aluxx SLR road frames.... definitely in a class of their own from what I've ridden.
@WAKIdesigns: There are different reasons to favor short rear travel bikes (or hardtails) over longer travel.
1. A too forgiving bike takes away some challenges. And by forgiving I do not only mean long travel but also big wheels, slack head angle and long reach. A low top tube and short stem are always going to be fun, I'll leave that out of the discussion. Of course if your local riding spots are very challenging by nature a very forgiving bike still leaves enough to enjoy. In fact, it will allow you go faster and find new challenges in that territory whereas a short travel bike will simply leave you struggling at slow speed. But if you just have some roots and smaller rocks to play with, it can actually be fun to be bucked about a little and find your challenges there. Rather than straightlining all over it and then moaning the trails are boring. I think you need just enough forgiveness to keeps the fun in. Too forgiving and it would kill all the fun, too little and it is all going to end too soon. The ideal recipe is going to be different for everyone and everywhere.
2. Shorter travel allows manufacturers to design the bike lighter, even if they're going to be ridden over the same terrain at the same pace as the bigger bikes. This mostly goes for the forks as longer forks generate larger stresses in the head tube area, but of course shorter forks match less (or no) rear wheel travel. As an example, Orange has a six inch travel bike called the Five. They recently sensed the demand for a five inch travel bike called the Four. This allowed them to use thinner material hence build a lighter bike. And lighter isn't just for climbing, a lighter bike is simply quicker to throw about as well. I actually believe that if they eventually release a four inch travel bike called Three it could be good fun as well in the right places. Of course it has to end somewhere. The one inch travel bike called Zero might not justify the use of an (expensive) rear shock.
3. Longer travel relates to more sag. Of course it is a skills thing, but less sag (or a hardtail) allows you to use subtle moves to make or break traction in a corner, do small hops etc. Sure it can be done on a longer travel bike as well but it is always going to feel more crisp on a shorter one.
So sure everyone might get along with a 160mm F/R travel bike just fine but some will find more joy in a shorter travel bike that suits their skills and terrain they're riding. Kona caters for those different people, which is nice.
I've got two mountainbikes. One is a steel DMR hardtail and that's the one I ride most. It is probably "nervous", "twitchy" and "cramped" by modern standards. The other one is a Cannondale Prophet fully (140mm rear travel) with either a 160mm or 140mm travel fork up front. I need to service it but I always end up riding the DMR instead of taking the time to service the C'dale. Obviously it allows me to go faster on rough terrain so much so that it feels like cheating. I could hit a corner with holes and bumps without properly compensating for them and still come out fine. The DMR would spit me out if I'd ride like that. Same on climbs. I could just power over slippery roots and make it whereas the hardtail definitely requires some more skill. Sure there are corners where bluntly hitting them with the Cannondale isn't going to end well and there are climbs where you do need the proper technique to make it over the obstacles. But my point is that the Cannondale solves stuff for me that the DMR doesn't. And as one of my main goals is to improve my skills, I like to ride a bike that doesn't completely covers my weaknesses. I need the feedback. Of course it goes the other way as well. My first MTB I've been riding for a long while only had an hydraulic disc brake and suspension up front, V-brakes and no suspension in the rear. So I ended up only controlling the front end and letting the rear end fly all over the place. When I got the Cannondale and especially in the Alps, this kind of riding allowed the rear end to decompress when I least needed it. I really had to learn to use the rear brake as this compresses the rear suspension.
I'm doing the baseline balance course now. I'd love to be able to gracefully work my way across uphill obstacles the way he does, that's a goal. Then I need to ride a bike that doesn't let me get away with poor technique. Once I've got it down, I can always reach for the fully and a more tacky rear tyre if the weather goes foul or the obstacles become bigger. But it is summer now, the roots are dry and reasonably grippy. I really need to ride the hardtail with some not too grippy 26" tyres to get some feedback on how far I can push things. And my fully has 140mm rear wheel travel and 26" wheels. Imagine I'd run bigger wheels, longer travel and longer reach. Climbing would simply become more about strength and fitness (if the bike would become heavier), not skill. That said, these modern bikes are probably lighter as well .
Plus, some of the new shorter travel bikes are getting good enough that if you do go away for a weekend somewhere gnarly you can get away with it and still have a great time. I'd rather keep my local flat & chunky spots interesting on a 111 than buy a 153 for the few times a year when I drive somewhere steep to ride.
But couldn't you have fit bottle mounts inside the Process frames, at least the 134s???
I usually ride with a pack, but it's nice to have the option.
I loved the old Kona Bass
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Love Kona bikes, and their sense of humor - I test rode an alloy hei hei trail recently and was blown away by how fast and capable that bike was. The rear end was not as plush as the process bikes, but it was very supportive. It totally redefined my concept of what an XC bike could be.
I wonder if they'll keep the ti honzo in the lineup? - or make the raijin a bit longer with boost and room for plus sized rubber?
Will the Big Honzo fit 29" wheels too, and did they change the bottom bracket height to suit the bigger rubber?
It's cool to see the WTB carbon rims on a 6k carbon trail bike. I think Giant is the only other company with carbon hoops at that price, and they are house brand.
Best Regards,
Ho-Lee-Chit
I'm sure it will be all up on their site soon enough.
Never rode the carbon operator I have a 2013 operator in large but never got around to the carbon. But yeah the new XL feels miles longer than my 2013
When is it going to stop? When will our "trail" bikes have 62 deg. HA?
Is it because our trails are getting so buffed out, that we have so much more speed, and we need DH geometry?
Or is it because the bike industry is going to reach a tipping point and start going the other way with "shorter and steeper" geo for better handling?
I'm not sure what you mean by "because our trails are getting so buffed out", because I ride nothing but rocky technical trails and love my low, long, and slack bike. I ride the same trails a lot faster than I used to, and I need more aggressive dh oriented geometry. It has nothing to do with the trails and everything to do with me, I would assume this is the case for most people.
I'm all for the modern geo to a point. It just seems like the bike industry is inching (milli-meter'ing?) their way to a tipping point. Then we will hear about the new, tighter handling geo.
It's happening with hardtails already. For a while, the biggest bike improvements were based on having more suspension travel.
Now we're being sold on the idea that you need no travel at all!
1. Transition
2. Kona
it's a short list
www.konaworld.com/stinky_26.cfm
when I first checked out the new bikes it wasn't listed, then the next day it was, now it seems to be gone again but the page is still there. Weird...
Wonder if it's only available in certain regions?
Oh wait.... I have a Balance. :-)
Guessing you don't ride uphill much then.
Doesn't count if you use a chairlift or shuttle
Could be cool to have it.