Greg Minnaar's Santa Cruz V10 29er - Bike Check

Apr 27, 2017 at 15:06
by Mike Kazimer  
Greg Minnaar V10 29er


It shouldn't come as a complete surprise that Greg Minnaar showed up to the first round of the 2017 DH World Cup with a 29" wheeled Santa Cruz V10. After all, the 6'3" rider's quest for longer and bigger bikes has been well documented, making him a prime candidate for a downhill 29er. Now that forks, tires, and wheels are truly up to snuff, the doors have been opened for riders to experiment with the bigger wheels. Will they make a difference? We'll have to wait until race day to find out, but in the meantime, read on to find out the full details on Minnaar's new ride from Jason Marsh, Greg's longtime mechanic.


Minnaar's Santa Cruz V10 29 Details

• Rider height: 6'3"
• Rider weight: 187lbs / 85kg
• Frame size: XXL
• Wheelsize: 29"
• Travel: 210mm
• Wheelbase: 1300mm (center of axle to center of axle)
• Chainstay length: 462mm
• Head angle: Approximately 64°
• Tires: 29 x 2.5" Maxxis Shorty WT 3C compound
• Weight: Approximately 36 pounds
• Handlebar width: 815mm (end of grip to end of grip)

Greg Minnaar V10 29er



What has Greg's initial feedback been about the new bike?


bigquotesHe just loves the fit of it. I think it fits him really well. Each time we get a new bike we go bigger and bigger and we haven't got to a point where we think it's too big yet. It'll be nice when we do (potentially) change to a new front end as well - we're probably going to stretch the bike out again. I mean, he's like 6'3” - there's not many bikes out there that fit him and that he feels comfortable on. It's just finding that size.


Greg Minnaar V10 29er


Last year Greg raced at the EWS round in Finale aboard a Hightower - was that what got this project underway?


bigquotesYeah, before that he'd ridden the Hightower a lot but he'd never actually raced it, he'd never pushed it. We just got the big fork, stuck it on the Hightower and did some runs. He just loved it because he was close to a bike that actually fit him. He seems confident and he's happy; that's the main thing.

We've tried a few different linkages to get the feel of the bike right. Of course, with the bigger wheels you've got more mass on there. We've actually dropped down to a 500 lb spring – we were on a 550 before but we've changed the linkage ratios. I would like him to be on a 400 spring, just because it gives us a lot of options. When we were on a 550, Fox don't make a great deal above that, where with the smaller sizes they make them in 25-pound increments. 500 is good because we can go 475, which we tried out a bit, I don't know if we'll be 475 or 500. It gives us a little bit of a playing area there. 


Greg Minnaar V10 29er

How much does the complete bike weigh?


bigquotesI think it's about 36 pounds or something – it's not super light. He kind of likes a bike that's not too light – that's why we've shied away from titanium bolts and stuff like that. He seems to think he can feel if the bike's too light, and he definitely has an optimum weight of what he thinks the bike should be.



Greg Minnaar V10 29er

Is there anything particular about the setup of the bike's front end?


bigquotesGreg will do minute changes in lever height if he feels like he's getting sore hands. He wants a straight line between his braking finger and his arm, and if he feels like he's crimped up he'll get arm pump, and same the other way as well. Depending on the steepness of the track he does play with his brake levers quite a bit.

We normally raise and lower the front end as well, but I think we're pretty dialed with where it is now. We'll see – he'll come back after his first run and then we'll change all that, or he'll be happy with it. 


Greg Minnaar V10 29er


Can you reveal any details about Greg's suspension settings?


bigquotesWe let Fox do that. All that stuff changes so much. Greg can really feel changes in the bike, and he'll come down and explain to the Fox guys what's actually happening to the bike and they'll do a click, and click. I just can't keep track. At the end of the day I'll count the settings. Some days I don't even like doing, that just in case I count them differently than the Fox guys – I'll just leave it, go and see the Fox guys and see what settings they have.

Most races that we go to Fox is always there, so I rely on them a lot to get the suspension dialed; I don't really touch it. Unless we (Greg and Fox) disagree, and then we have a little fiddle ourselves and don't tell Fox.

We did a bit of data acquisition with the Fox guys and figured out he uses his back travel twice as much as the front travel, so that was quite interesting to learn that, and it was pretty much bang-on 50% as well, so we're pretty happy with how that's panned out, really.



Greg Minnaar V10 29er
Greg Minnaar V10 29er


Full audio of Ross Bell's interview with Jason Marsh:



193 Comments

  • 176 23
 Feel like #26Ain'tDead folks wanna get so mad about this, but the bike was one of the best DH riders ever's idea, so they're just sitting their shaking silently while turning purple.
  • 105 6
 i can confirm this is true #istilllovemy26
  • 213 7
 Quite the opposite. We may become the #weneverfellfor650 boys
  • 133 1
 Might be minority over here, but I think this bike is sick AND I still ride and love my 26er DH bike. Mind you, I only ride my DH for fun so if I'm a few seconds slower than I could be I couldn't care less. So long as I can get new wheels and tires I'll keep riding it.
  • 49 14
 I am still on my 26in bike and I'm actually delighted. 650b struck me as masses of marketing balls so companies could shove some planned obsolescence down everyone's throats while they figured out 29ers. Now tyres and wheels have caught up and the big travel 29ers have arrived. I've demo'd a couple of 29ers this year (Enduro, RocketMax) and they've been the kind of step forward over my 26in bike from 2012 that no 650b machine has been. So here come the 29ers! Meanwhile 650b has an appointment with a nice man from DEFRA with a bolt gun, try not to cry children...
  • 9 3
 I gotta say, for as anti-progression as the message goes, @Fix-the-Spade is onto something. Right when everybody has switched over to 650B the next chassis is rolled off the press. I respect Greg and anything he does or says to the highest degree, but just like plus tires, this is nothing new but being revamped with monoque carbon and boost hubs.
There is some tinkering going on beneath the curtain. No conspiracy theory about it.

I hate to bring in the shorter travel bikes for an argument but when Evil bikes (who I would consider very effected by the market demand, being rather notorious for their first frames) was pushing out the 26" Trail bike people called them crazy and they swung the 29" axe back around for a while. They made the change in one succinct motion and people were overjoyed with the results. They hit a home run and became a household name.

A lot of people hate bigger wheels, and have stuck to 26". Great for them if that makes them happy.
But making everything you sell an FRO-type bike isn't a model I don't want to see.
Santa Cruz still makes the 5010, and the Chameleon is far from a race bike and I respect that. Evil has gone on to make The Calling which is commonly referred to as the funnest bike money can buy.

Nothing wrong with it, just weird.
  • 22 7
 Pretty happy to keep riding a 26 and skip the 650 stuff. I'll happily go 29 for my next DH rig =)
  • 16 120
flag torero (Apr 27, 2017 at 16:22) (Below Threshold)
 @Jessee No. #26aintdead !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! f*ck Minnaar
  • 32 5
 @torero: Charming.
  • 80 3
 It's all a conspiracy we don't even need downhill bikes the earths flat bro! #woke
  • 89 1
 @siderealwall2: I think most people who are still riding 26" aren't doing it because they don't like bigger wheels. I'd imagine most are like me and find that their 26" bike is still in top condition and rides well, and can't afford/justify buying a new bike when I have a perfectly good one regardless of wheel size.
When I do decide that my 26 has had its day then i will have no issues buying a bike with bigger wheels, in fact I would absolutely love a new bike with bigger wheels! But I'll get another year or two out my old one first.
  • 16 0
 Actually, I'm totally fine with it (and I love 26 bikes). I kind of feel like we could have 29er downhill bikes (since they seem suited and will likely win races) and 26er freeride bikes (since they seem optimized for that).
  • 14 1
 @patrick2cents: And 27.5" DH bikes for people that want to do both on the same bike... Wait...

Houston, we have a problem.
  • 16 4
 @torero: Go back to your Nickelback concert
  • 8 7
 @torero: Your are an idiot. Plain and simple.
  • 15 9
 No as a devoted lover of 26 Im mad at the 27.5. 27.5 was made for all the losers that are to scared to ride 29... 29 is faster... End of story. So we ended up killing the freeride size (26). There should be only 2 wheels sizes, 26 for DJ and free ride 29 for any race category.
  • 20 0
 @juicebanger: The 29er V10 reveal article made an interesting point; the smaller wheels felt faster. If you aren't racing might as well ride the wheels that are the most exhilarating to use!
  • 6 1
 @matteosignorelli: Agree

I think the bike industries new focus on the 29" wheel size and its clear advantages is really a huge punch in the tits to the 27.5" wheel size. Especially to the tits of companies like Giant that just made shit up in hopes we all move to 27.5" so they could increase their profit not having to design frames for multiple wheel sizes.

26" has an advantage in agility, acceleration and quickness and 29ers have an advantage in rollover and pure speed. 27.5" was interesting at first because it was new. Now that we've had it for a year or two we've lost interest and are either looking for ways to make the 27.5" perform more like a 29er with plus tires or we are back to the 29" because plain old 27.5" is just boring.
  • 5 0
 @Singletrackmac: Agreed.

I was another who said 650b is pointless when it arrived. 26" is more fun and 29" is faster. I enjoyed having both of those wheel sizes for a completely different experience.

That said I love 650b+. They're bloody hilarious.
  • 5 0
 @shakeyakey: YES! flat earth, chem trails, and 29ers! it's all a conspiracy #believer
  • 8 0
 I ride a 26. Love it, super stoked to see the progression of DH too though. I also haven't had the opportunity to ride a 27.5 or 29" tho. So I may not know what I'm missing. Can't wait to try them! I think my wallet is shaking if anything is. Good bikes are lot of buck. Bummed if they quit making 26 parts more than anything.
Either way riding is riding to me. I just love MTB.
Cheers!
  • 4 0
 @jdsusmc: Try a aluminum GX/XT spec 120-140mm 29" like a Trek Fuel EX of YT Jeffsy. No carbon or Eagle required. You won't believe how fast they are.
  • 1 0
 I don't believe i'll change anybody's mind on that one, but i've been lucky enough to own any of these wheel size, there's an advantage depending what you are looking for. They don't pay,so i'll choose whatever i would like to ride been in that position.
  • 1 0
 @src248: truth. Its about fun and fear not fractions of seconds Lycra and money
  • 1 0
 @jdsusmc: I'm bummed all the lbs stopped carrying dh bixe in my neck of the woods
  • 5 1
 @torero: Good luck with your animosity towards one of the nicest guys in the sport
  • 5 0
 Yes its a good looking bike, its an xxl with 29" it looks the same as my small with 26" wheels, I think wheel size depends on frame size more..
  • 2 0
 "I think it's about 36 pounds or something." Like hell they don't know the exact weight, just because. That being said, as a 6'3 rider I would love to take her around the block and maybe back to my place.
  • 2 0
 I'm still riding 26" because I can't afford a new bike! If I could, I'd probably go 27.5. Although some of the new 29er enduro bikes looks sweet (YT!)
  • 2 0
 @Ryanroberts51: the bike industry is in deep with the inter dimensional psychic pedophile vampires and the wheel size debate is solely to distract us from learning the real truth #realtalk
  • 7 0
 @JesseE Y'know what? not mad in the slightest, the guy is 6'3! Every wheel size has its benefits an draw backs. The only thing that's bullshit is the 26 is dead attitude
  • 2 0
 @HankBizzle: What you said. In spades. Couldn't have put it better myself.
  • 2 0
 I can't help, but Greg is almost two head higher than me. For me 29 is too big.
  • 2 0
 I hear a lot of people debating the; 26/29 Contact patch and speed versus agility and playfulness..

I assume that you can probably handle a 29 pretty well if you can already go fast on a 26..
So if 29" lets you go faster and take more brazen lines, Its logical to start transferring your skills over to the bigger wheel. It doesn't sound like 26 is holding very strong with the dh crowd anymore.

I'm having a hard time picking my next bike after riding a friends mid travel 29er... My longer travel 26 was super fun while pedaling around, but I could feel the 29 holding traction on turns where the 26 would have washed out..

Might have to skip the 27.5 movement and buy a 29er...
  • 4 0
 @burnadette:

I've been back & forth on different 29er 2.35 and B+ 2.8s set ups and the 29er definitely holds more speed, even with a pretty close wheelsize. When I went from 26 to 29er the 26 felt like it got hung up on everything, but there is something to be said for being far closer to the ground at the axels. If you have a bike you love riding with 26ers the fun ain't dead, but when you do wanna buy a new bike don't exclude wagon wheels till you've put in your due diligence and properly ridden one.
  • 3 0
 I want this bike more than anything because I'm 6' 6" and usually look like a giant on most bikes. Now only if they made a XXL 29r nomad ugh a guy can only dream
  • 1 0
 @NWuntilirest: 6'5" here and couldn't agree more
  • 1 0
 I saw on another video a top ride when asked about this 29er... he simply replied yuck!
  • 1 0
 U could 26" this beast, just need some super monsters and gazzaloddis
  • 47 2
 The V10 TwentyNiners sounds like a bad indie band. Toss in the Boost Brothers and the 15 Millimeters as the supporting act, and you got one bad show.
  • 7 0
 Wait until the modern punk band Pressfit rocks up
  • 52 9
 When the news first came out, I thought it was crazy. Now reading comments about why he went for it now makes it sensible, but only for Greg. The general public that rides DH is not 6'3". So brands, please don't shove 29er DH bikes on us. Thank you
  • 59 4
 28.25" is where its at... Im just ahead of time that's all.... watch this space
  • 5 5
 I honestly dont know for DH, but I can see the appeal at least even for smaller guys (i mean 5"10 or 5"11, not smaller).
I sure love my HT 29er more than the 27.5ers (I'm 5"11) and I ride it like a lightish enduro bike i guess.

I think i'd be a little scared on a 29er DH bike. But I don't know.
  • 118 3
 Well I'm 6'5" and have endured two decades of bikes that were too small for me, now it's your turn. Prepare to get your arses abraded short people!
  • 12 1
 @Fix-the-Spade: I always lulz at the term "arse". +1 points
  • 8 2
 @glenno: In all seriousness, it they went with 28" instead of 650b, it may have been the best size for all uses.
  • 4 0
 This bike looks surprisingly proportional. At least the first WC 29" DH bike looks good and the design makes sense for the rider on it.
  • 1 0
 @glenno: That's probably not even a joke
  • 1 0
 @TheJonmcc wait until you see the new Trek 29er and the ----- ---- too. Sorry for the bad news. Sleep well!
  • 3 0
 @jclnv: maybe. We will see in two years when they roll that out with a new hub width claiming boost was 1.73 mm too wide
  • 1 0
 Yeah only Greg is allowed smh
  • 1 0
 I think there is some validity to that. I am almost 6' and I ride a 29er trail bike. I think it is going to be a challenge for manufacturers to make 29er DH bikes for the crowd that is below 5'7" 5'8" without having it feel unwieldy or awkward.

We'll see how this plays out...Based on how I have been riding with friends and race times...my 29er trail bike is definitely faster than my 27.5 bike was. But I think the benefit of 29" wheels may play more to the riders that are hovering around 6' and up.

Will taller riders be the only ones to be able to unlock this mechanical advantage? If so...how long before UCI starts to put limitations on DH bike tech so that rider talent is the only thing that differentiates the competitors.
  • 2 0
 Yeah; on an XXL frame, 29" wheels look appropriate. On a medium one, not so much...
  • 1 0
 @Extremmist:
This looks pretty proportionate to me.....
www.pinkbike.com/photo/14542425
  • 1 0
 @Fix-the-Spade: Every tall person reading this thread just jumped up and shouted amen! Thank u lord Jesus and started dancing. In their heads anyway...
  • 2 0
 You know there's actaully a lot of tall guys who ride bikes? Size small is the least purchased. Large is the most purchased and medium and XL are about the same. I am 6'4" and i like the handle of smaller bikes. I do agree with Minaar that bikes shouldn't be too light. Especially a DH, you need them to plow thru the rough stuff, and weight helps a lot with that
  • 1 0
 And now look at today's cvali times and think again...
  • 39 4
 I don't care what anyone else thinks. That bike is gorgeous.
  • 14 2
 And the wheels don't even look all that large on it. That bike is huge.
  • 6 2
 That bike is gregeous.
  • 4 0
 @teobaldobau: that is an outgregious comment
  • 24 0
 "Greg can really feel changes in the bike, and he'll come down and explain to the Fox guys what's actually happening to the bike and they'll do a click, and click" By "feel" do you mean bouncing it off the concrete of a garage at 2am before the race?
  • 7 0
 Curb test or GTFO
  • 4 1
 Haha. That was priceless.
  • 5 0
 @hamncheez Pissed myself at that one. Such a mega talent, maybe the best ever, doubting the crap out of himself in the middle if the night.
  • 20 1
 This is what I always though to make more sense, at least for the gravity oriented bikes. Bigger frames can fit, and look better, with bigger wheels.
A few centuries ago, XL bikes looked ridiculous with 26" wheels. But take a good look at this, the proportions fit really well. If you're tall and strong enough, I don't see why you shouldn't go with the 29ers.
  • 14 0
 I remember spending a lot of time and money getting my bikes under 40lbs. Then I got a turner DHR to 37 and it was amazing! I love how the sport has progressed that a 29" wheeler bike with proper tires is "not that light" at 36 lbs!!! Amazing technology and development.
  • 14 0
 The industry has us hoodwinked into endless debates about what wheel size is best. There is no best. It's all relative according to a bunch of variables and rider size is one of the prime factors. In general, it makes sense for a bigger rider to be on a bigger bike with bigger wheels. I'm 6'3" and I've been waiting decades for bikes to match my size with more than just a longer seat tube and top tube. The only catch is that the trail is not variable, and in my experience bigger bikes with bigger wheels handle differently in tight corners, berms, and on some jump transitions. I'm curious how they deal with those challenges. Maybe the gains in open, rough terrain supersede the losses. In any case, this is all setting us up for an exciting season of DH racing. Stoked.
  • 3 0
 I am 6'2" and my fully rigid XL Redline 29er is the most well-proportioned feeling bike I have ridden in a long time. Like since I was a kid on a BMX.

I am kind of surprised they rolled this out for a steep and tech course like Lourdes though. Everyone was talking about how we may begin to se 29ers on the more bike-parkey courses this year, but I didn't expect to see it at Round 1, much less a full campaign.
  • 2 0
 Any gains or losses in a tight switch back that lasts for a second are not going to add or lose more than a half- it sounds like a good rule of thumb to me, and it makes sense. Big bikes save energy on rough terrain, which is everywhere. I mean, i ride a 26 inch bike in skateparks made for 20s... it'll fit. Its not like my ass isn't already buzzing the tire for xc on 26, mostly by choice of positioning not accidentally.
  • 13 1
 SANTA CRUZ: you wait till we show them the 29er .. they are gonna go ape shit ... .lol

put bike out on media, and sit and wait for the hate ...

MTB RIDERS : Actually it pretty good,
MTB RIDERS : geometry has caught up,
MTB RIDERS : looks good, best tool for the job,
MTB RIDERS : we trust Greg,
MTB RIDERS : good idea,
MTB RIDERS : 29ers have improved and matured, right time really
MTB RIDERS : yada yada
MTB RIDERS : wonder if spec will bring their soon
MTB RIDERS : skipped 27.5, media fake, but this 29 looks good
MTB RIDERS : was sceptical but big bike for a big guy
MTB RIDERS : ...

SANTA CRUZ : (mouths open) W ... T .. F .. ???????

MTB RIDERS : I still hate them .. #27.5ForLife .. I Mean .. #26aintdead .. erm .. i mean .. hate it .. erm its stupid .. like your mom .. yeah .. !!

SANTA CRUZ: yay .. we got a hater .. we got a hater .. phew!!!
  • 1 4
 didn't understand a word of that
  • 1 0
 @simooo:
basically, santa cruz are expecting hate, most are being level headed, some people are just whinging ninnies regardless
  • 15 4
 You've got a legend riding a 29er DH bike. All wheel size arguments are now effectively dead. Ride whatever wheel size you want to. Although seems like all manufacturers have stopped making 26" wheeled bikes.
  • 1 0
 It seems hard to get a dh bike other than by mail order
  • 12 3
 I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but many comments on this post and all relevant wheel size posts are pretty much worthless conjecture. Currently, only 3 or 4 MTB teams KNOW if a 29er DH bike is faster than a 26 or 27.5 bike. From what I've read, the teams are still not entirely certain. I'm actually stunned it's taken this long to find out. MTB is a strange sport. Nearly every rider I've met is a crazed gear nerd who spends half the ride discussing their next component etc. You'd think that these people would love any advancement that makes bikes better or faster. Reading these posts makes me question the sanity of half the posters. It's a wheel. It's a couple of inches bigger than the other wheel. 26 for life, 29 for life...kill me. You're in love with a randomly selected measurement of a wheel. Thank F I actually care about important things. Like, well virtually any thing on Earth is more important than the size of our MTB wheels. Things change. When a company or individually finally thoroughly tests wheel dimensions, we'll likely see a change again. So to be very clear. I don't know what size wheel is faster on a DH bike. I also don't give a flying F. Why would anybody really care? I care about riding, I care about the riders, the tracks, the coverage, the excitement. If 29 inch wheels are faster in a race, great, race 29 inch wheels then. It's a freaking wheel. You don't HAVE to ride them. It's called a choice. If you are one of the people getting heated about the size of the wheel on here or anywhere. I suggest you do the world a favor and just ride your bike off an extra big cliff. We need people who care about real issues. 5.52345 inch phone screens for life. Sounds stupid right?
  • 1 0
 Mondraker guys tested them and apparently (word of mouth, rumors, etc) didn't like them and went back with 27.5. which makes sense considering the size of the guys on the team. It's not going to be faster for everyone, and the persons size will play a roll (evident by the difference in travel for greg vs the two other guys who aren't short). Should be an interesting race. Minnar was 4th last season but hasn't won anything in a while iirc.
  • 8 0
 I'm glad to see this touched on the point of rider size, I'm 6'4" and the first time I rode a proper 29er it felt like my bike actually fit for once. That Santa Cruz is a XXL and looks right, find an XXL 26" bike and it looks weird and disproportionate.
  • 7 0
 Greg, ride the hell out of this bike! And have a safe and successful season! As far as wheel size, etc., just give me options. I'm not baller or pushing for record time but I would mind feeling like I it. And to my V10 out there... I'm coming for ya, just as soon as daddy can pull the scratch.
  • 9 1
 Santa Cruz's sizing is as wonky as their pricing. 6'3" needs XXL?

is the owner of SC like 5'6" and really wants to ride a L? lol
  • 3 0
 SC should definitely make a revision to their sizing chart.
  • 7 2
 29 is a racer bike. If you're going to the bike park 26 or 27.5 is fine. The only way they can make a solid 29 dh bike is to get EVERYONE on board. Fox, maxxis, etc. This is what held up 29 all along. With evil and yeti showing their steezy low 29 trail rigs, it's time.
  • 6 1
 Evil and Yeti? Spec was def out front on the whole 29er "thing"!!
Up until a few days ago, they still were!?!
  • 3 0
 @enduro29erHack: but not with the new and improved geo. Spec switched up to 27.5 and 6fattie to stay in the market. Specialized was abit ahead of their time with the 29er. They did try though
  • 12 7
 I remember back in the day when you had 26" tires and you had courses that were not built for speed alone there were other kinds of challenges on the trail like ladders and technical chutes. You sometimes had to slow down to work out what path to take you could not simply wagon wheel over everything. People rode bikes after work to escape all the BS and feel FREE. I can't remember what they called those types of bikes. Free bikes or something, been replaced now with some larger tire bikes that we are forced to ENDURE.
  • 5 0
 Who's forcing you?
  • 9 1
 Picking a wheelsize is like choosing between redhead, blonde, brunette. They're all wonderful.
  • 2 0
 yes, good, cause ill take anything
  • 4 0
 So much fuzz about wheel size here that everyone is kind of forgetting that Pinkbike is doing such a great job with the bike checks so far this 217! I really want PB to keep doing it so they can bring to us manny many more to come! Cheers PB, keep it up and I am so wanting Tippie to do the Fest boys bike checks! Wink
  • 4 0
 I still find it laughable the Greg has been riding Santa Cruz for what, 6 years? And they still haven't made a frame that actually properly fits him. I mean the dude is the GOAT and they haven't even tried to make a bike that fits him. I personally think that's just laughable. Seriously. What the hell. All these big teams with access to such tooling should make sure every rider is custom fit to the bike. Every knows DH is the F1 of MTB... Well in F1 the whole cockpit is moulded specifically to the driver. I know the finances don't match up bit I doubt it would cost a fortune to make bikes that fit from alloy ..
  • 5 1
 Pros ride the tool that they believe will get them across the finish line the fastest. For some it's 27.5 and for a few it's 29". It's not like either are going away any time soon. #ownerofa26anda29
  • 2 0
 Minaar is also one of the pickiest pros out there, dude has a specific bottom bracket break in procedure for gods sake! If he's claiming the 29er is better, I'd tend to believe him, but also realize virtually nobody can push a bike to its limit like a top WC racer, so it's likely a moot point for 99% of us.
  • 4 0
 I hope Santa Cruz brings the 29er V10 to production. I'm 6'4 and always struggled finding a bike that fits. It would definitely bring me back to riding DH. But, I still love my custom Tallboy Ltc Smile
  • 6 0
 Being 6'5", this is great news!
  • 3 0
 I think for Greg make sense. SC = V10 so they can make a new bike 29" ,longer or whatever they need.Big guys sure are glad of 29" DH bikes. I switch to 650b days ago and feels more natural than 26" but is a different feel...
  • 2 0
 When you are tall and ride an xl or xxl size frame your wheelbase is so long that you might as well have the bigger wheels... I feel a picture of a small size bike with 26" a pic of a large size with 27.5" and a pic of a xxl with 29" wheels you would be hard pressed to tell which is which, proportions are the same...As a tall guy myself I love my 29er, the size just feels proportionately correct for my size... But if ya wannna hate........
  • 2 0
 Been waiting for this. I knew 650 was just the step stone. Materials and design have caught up for the burly 29'r concept. Others like specialized were saying 29'er was faster several years ago and just built 650's cause that's what people wanted.
  • 2 0
 Greg's bike looks normal now with those big wheels. I've always thought that his bikes looked like "reverse clown bikes."

Interesting how Santa Cruz were one of the last (if not the last) holdouts on 26 inch wheels in the DH circuit, and now they'll be spearheading the move to bigger wheels. I wonder of Jeff Steber had anything to do with it.
  • 5 0
 Shimano Saint has not been updated for 5 years!
  • 5 0
 I've got good news and bad news - the bad news is the Saint hasn't been updated for 5 years. The good news is that Saint hasn't been updated for 5 years!
  • 1 0
 contributing to that 36lb bike weight....
  • 1 0
 The 29 wheels fit him and the "new"size bike as well......and that means what?that the times he didn't won was the the size of the wheels and the bike ,cause josh I guess won a championship (and almost ,except for that too much fly)world champion,on a smaller than for today's standard bike ,so I'm guessing that nobody gonna stand a change now ,or Gwin,Danny ,Gee,Troy,and the rest running a 27,5 should just give up ,or they all just gonna run 29 instead,let the games begin
  • 3 0
 Nah, I think riders will finally be able to pick the right size for them. Gee isn't much shorter than Minnaar, Gwin is on the tall side of average, and Danny and Troy are both pint-sized. For Gee, 29 may open new doors. Hart and Brosnan may have challenges with that size. Gwin? It may be a take-it-or-leave it decision, without clear benefits. I think choosing a wheel size will allow each rider to reach his/her full potential. Should be exciting to watch.
  • 2 0
 At 6'4", I would seriously buy that thing, finally a dh bike that would fit right. I've been asked numerous times why my bike is so small, but it's an extra large! XXL, with 29 inch wheels, sign me up.
  • 2 0
 Hey it's WB is 30mm longer than my LG 650B Megatrail was. They just don't make very big bikes if you are 6'6" or above there are only like 2 brands you can look at and if after a DH bike it will have to custom.
  • 1 0
 Whats really interesting to me is that Greg's bike is so damn big the wheel actually look proportional to the rest of the bike. You could actually shrink or enlarge the bike to any size and it would still look proportional. By the way, Minaar will crush the field with this one IMHO.
  • 1 0
 "We did a bit of data acquisition with the Fox guys and figured out he uses his back travel twice as much as the front travel, so that was quite interesting, it was pretty much bang-on 50% as well, so we're pretty happy with how that's panned out."
And all this time I've been looking at the o-ring on my forks and banging my head against the wall trying to work out how to get full travel out of the front while I'm bottoming out the rear. It turns out that apparently I don't need to, I just ride like the GOAT!
  • 1 0
 I deliberated over my Trek Slash 29 and have no regrets at all. If you haven't ridden the new breed of 29 wheeled bikes you need to. Even if you don't want to or can't spend the $$$. It's worth knowing how fast and fun they are.
  • 1 0
 Cripes, McGazza must've felt like a doubled over munchkin on his tiny bikes...
Minaar could bomb a WC run on a dang Flintstones contraption and still smoke most of us. But that thing needs a monster truck soundtrack on the way down "This SUUUNNDAYYY see Gravedigger versus Greg Minaar at the fairgrounds!!!"
  • 1 0
 im a big fan of 26's because thats all i've ridden while growing up, currently on a 15' session park. Id love to try a 27.5 eventually because i like trying new things. if anything i think the 29'er is a good bridge that almost relieves tension off the whole 26 is dead deal. it would just be a shame if the industry eliminated public production of 26's. Each bike is its own tool...
  • 1 0
 Ultimately, this will work, but just like Enduro is showing us, it's not going to dominate.

T-Mo crushed everyone on a 29" then bugged out. Then Ravanel crushed everyone on a 27.5.. Now Courdier is "awake" and on a 27.5. With the men, 27.5 bikes are still winning more than 29's.

All that said one might guess that perhaps it's the nature of EWS courses, but I'll say it's more likely the rider and how he or she interfaces with the bike.

Whatever the case, that 29" V10 is 53X!

#still_likes_riding_26
  • 3 0
 Maybe more company's will start marking XXL bikes as well. I am 6' 5 and a bit.
  • 3 0
 The Goat has been winning WC on 'not properly fit' bike all this while ... my money on him this year onwards
  • 6 2
 next up 29+ DH wheels HAHAHAHAHAHAH
  • 4 1
 Shut up and ride your bikes bitches!!
(Sorry folks I get honest when I drink Vodka)
  • 2 0
 Love it or hate it, this is a monumental time in the history of DH racing and for an icon like Minnaar to be part of it just makes it so much more special.
  • 1 0
 I have both 26 and 29 inch DH bikes and both are great. They are really just different rides, not better or worse, just different. And it may have more to do with setup than hoop size. Whatever works....
  • 1 1
 I feel like people crazy over all this but when u buy a cr 250 or yz 250 one size fits all so how could tall and short matter I've road small to large 26 27.5 and 29 there if u can ride a bike u can ride a bike ...wheel size help with speed and little rocks roots the suspension works less to get over so only benefits
  • 2 0
 Can you Pinkbike please add riders height in metric unit also? Than non US users dont need to check this in height calculator Smile
  • 1 0
 Prediction: Minnaar has his most 'streaky' run ever (cause his enormous 29 inch back tire rips off the ass of his pants). But he still wins, in style, cause he is Greg friggin Minnaar, downhill MTB god.
  • 3 0
 Looks great with the big wheels!
I'd rock that for sure Smile
  • 3 2
 Kick all the Asses Minnaar!!!! Beauty bike...Ride what wins. No one cares about wheel size much out in the real world btw, right?..heehee HA!
  • 3 0
 Makes sense to me, XXL bike needs bigger wheels too.
  • 8 6
 I hope Greg wins this weekend.... come on Greg Williamson. You can do it Smile
  • 4 1
 It looks amazing with 29" wheels. Would love to see a Syndicate 1-2-3.
  • 3 0
 Loved the audio content! More like this please!!
  • 1 2
 So... are V10's going to be only 29ers now? Being a short guy, i can't imagine myself on a 29er. With DH bikes not selling as well these days, i can't imagine them offering the V10 in 2 wheel sizes and in S, M, L, XL and XXL frame sizes. Watch the price of V10's sky rocket. I can't afford a V10 anyway.
  • 2 0
 dude, I'm 5'7" on a M evil wreckoning and couldn't be happier with how it handles. embrace it brethren.
  • 1 0
 @Ryanroberts51: I tried my friend's medium Trek Top Fuel, my testicles didn't like the top tube when i introduced them.
  • 2 0
 They'll still have the moulds for the 27.5 frames so they 'could' keep making them without any additional setup costs, but realistically they will be wanting to push the new frames out instead. In any case, as soon as they open the 29er to the public I can see the buy/sell being flooded with guys selling their season old 650s cheap to make way for the model they will 'need' for this season.
  • 1 0
 As the wc tracks get smoother over the years, the wheel sizes also evolve and get bigger. That's a monster of a bike, it looks like it would be fun to spin some laps on.
  • 1 0
 I like it! But I'd also like to see a rule that you pick a wheel size and have to stick with it all season. That'd make things a bit more interesting.
  • 2 0
 Let's start the #RIDETHEF*CKYOUWANT movement. It goes with #Bikeswithwheelsaintdead.
  • 1 0
 It still amazes me that people still get so hung up on wheel sizes, 26", 27.5", 29" who gives a f**k!!! Just ride your bikes and have a blast
  • 1 0
 I'll get a 29er when my 26er breaks. Since it's a TR450, I think it'll be a while. Pretty soon my bike will look like a pit bike. Probably when the 49er wheels come out.
  • 4 2
 Mother of god... this bike
  • 2 1
 SC should change their frame's size chart, it becomes quite stupid ... XXL frame seriously ?? shoul become an L!
  • 2 0
 Eager to see a Session 29 as well this weekend
  • 1 0
 Exactly​. I saw the prototypes up close at. Crankworx last year in the lift line. Trek will bring them out if needed
  • 3 0
 I like to ride bikes
  • 1 0
 "Tires: 29 x 2.5" Maxxis Shorty WT 3C compound"

Be amazed if these hold up
  • 1 0
 They need to limit wheel size to 29 like how golf has club length limits. Either that or someone should go 32
  • 2 0
 Watch Mr. Minnaar podium this weekend!
  • 2 0
 looks like a sweet build. Marsh is a master
  • 2 0
 Tis a beauty, but the red accented with orange is really funky.
  • 1 0
 WAIT 29'' bike 462 chainstay + Greg maybe couldn't fit in the Lourdes elevator imho
  • 1 0
 Does wheel size matter if you're a crap rider it doesn't matter what wheels you have !if you're good any will do .
  • 1 0
 @ cross country races 29 ers are everywhere, 29ers for DH for racing is logical & surprisingly late
  • 1 0
 Santa cruz you will always be the bike of my dreams... but 29" it's too much...
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  • 1 0
 The main thing I got from this article was the move to a 29er was about bike fit.
  • 3 2
 Bug wheels making big dreams
  • 1 0
 Can we beat this horse to death and get to racing already.
  • 1 0
 Wonder if he's on a Spring Fork like Gwin is!! ??
  • 2 1
 Nothing on pedaling efficiency? How is it on a punchy climb?
  • 2 1
 DH is the new basketball. If you aren't 6'4" don't bother!
  • 1 0
 Yes, 'cause teamplay is the only way you can compete and have fun in mountain biking.. Silly you.
  • 1 0
 I don't really need a DH bike but every time I see a V10 I want it.
  • 1 0
 In the end its still mountain biking!
  • 2 1
 Yeah another trend. Marketing genius's lol
  • 1 0
 Can't wait to see the niners tear up rampage
  • 1 0
 next wheel standard #32inch... gotta keep the chasers spending Wink
  • 1 0
 That frame is so long those wheels don't even look like 29ers to me...
  • 1 0
 I'm so fat! 6'2" 205 lbs.
  • 1 0
 Wheelbase: n/a

Didn't have a tape measure long enough
  • 1 0
 I spit on all yall 29er graves
  • 1 0
 Sounds like everyone who bought into those 650s made a great investment.
  • 1 0
 And just like that Niner is back in the game.
  • 3 3
 Time to circle the wagons!
  • 1 1
 Shorty's front and back! I can hear the BRAAAAAAPPPPPPPP
  • 1 0
 So 27.5 is the new 26
  • 1 1
 29ers aren't wining EWS are they?
  • 6 6
 #29isthriving
  • 3 3
 New benchmark
  • 1 2
 The end is upon us, we have strayed too far from God's Light.
  • 3 5
 Go Gwin!
  • 1 4
 How's this even fair? Mechanical doping!
  • 3 6
 I owned 2 V10 carbons, 650 is good. However 29" V10 is farking STUPID!
  • 9 1
 Greg Minnaar happens to disagree with you. I'll go ahead and assume he knows something about bikes.
  • 1 0
 Love this thing. Must have so much grip and poise... want.
  • 1 0
 Dude look at Lurdes timing now Big Grin
  • 2 0
 Yeah right !! Fort william champ again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 3
 26 forever
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