The mention of bamboo handlebars often raises a few eyebrows –
The questions begin “How strong are they?”, “Will they last as long as my carbons?”, “What’s the technical control like?”.
We’ve heard it all, and the answers are – strong, yes, and bloody excellent. But don’t just take our word… we’ve got the evidence that proves it.
As part of the small team running Passchier Bamboo Handlebars, we’re serious about riding and genuinely want to improve the ride of anyone with the same passion. We developed Passchier as we felt that jarring, tingling sensation up our hands and arms far too often after a good ride (which we’ve now found out to be hand-arm vibration syndrome). Our muscles and wrists were taking the heat of the vibrations running through our carbon alloy bars, and it was leaving every ride a little less enjoyable while slowly damaging the nerves in our hands. It wasn’t ideal, and yet it seemed like a common experience simply accepted by riders. We aren’t going to stand for that.
We got to work, and after a good couple of years of testing and many, many prototypes, Dirk Passchier, the craftsman behind our operation, had finally sculpted the perfect bar. Unique and beautiful to look at, strength tested to no end, and with the perfect amount of flex to deliver just the comfort we were looking for – lo and behold, The Gump.
These beauties were genuinely unlike anything we’d ever ridden. The smoothness along all terrains – give us gravel, cobblestones, shingle – was second to none. The Gumps stood up to the test and proved so comfortable it was hard not to over-shoot your destination and keep riding, leading them to swiftly be named after a man of similar nature, Forrest Gump.
We continued on, crafting a few variations of the bars, The 45° Couch and 10° Scoot, but always came back to the Gumps – 760mm long and with a 22° sweep, they were the perfect combination of strength, comfort, and style that we’d been looking for.
As laminated natural fibers, the bars have just enough flex to alleviate the stress from the road and absorb vibrations that normally our hands, wrists, and arms take the hit from, while still having the stability to not compromise any control. (Interestingly enough, this is the reason we deviated from the aforementioned 45° Couch design – ridiculously comfortable to ride, they felt like you were parked on the couch at home! However, the flex was too much that they didn’t handle as beautifully and precisely as the Gumps, so the Couch has been left to kick its feet up while we’re back at the drawing board on that heftier sweep).
It was all on from there. Mike and Dirk put their heads down, handcrafting bar after bar and strength testing to determine what the bars were best suited for. After a 5 day stretch and 100,000 repeats in the strength lab, Passchier’s stood up to the test and proved the perfect bars for bike packing adventures, commuting, and easy trails, while we decided to lean away from promoting any downhill, technical work, and jumps. They’d actually proved to be so perfect for those long tours or daily commutes that we narrowed our focus to this area, and even designed another city friendly version of the Gumps – the Gump 650s.
Passchier bars are designed for the avid rider by mates who just love to ride. We take into account all of the nuances that come with a good ride, and want to make sure comfort and style are part of the experience for anyone else who spends a bit of time behind their bars.
Check out the video below to meet Dirk and Mike, the faces behind Passchier and hear their bar building journey start to finish, or check out our website to see more on what we’re about and pick up your own set of Passchier’s.
@jmhills: So is aluminium. Edit: I gotta eat a bit of humble pie: Relative to weight, aluminium 6061-T62 is comparable to bamboo in strength and only about 30% stiffer. That is not at near as big a difference as I expected. However, in strenght to area measures aluminium is about 3.4 times stiffer and 4.6 times stronger, making it much more well suited for most bicycle components which utilize tube constructions.
@Sylesej: Yeah, it is a lot stronger than people think. I mean, it is used for scaffolding. I think the attraction to bamboo might be that it can be grown and is somewhat of an infinitely renewable product. It is not suitable for all things but can be used in specific areas.
@jaame: If you look closely at the pictures, especially the top one, it looks like they are cut into strips and glued together to form a laminate. This would give them significantly more strength than if they just took a length of bamboo and shaped it into a handlebar.
I envision seeing this mounted on the Moots in the OneUp rack on the back of the Porsche always parked at the posh LBS. I'd be surprised to ever see it on trail though, seems like a product catering toward the "more show than go" crowd.
@Sylesej: I believe you are the first pinkbike user to ever serve themselves humble pie on their own comment while providing useful information and supplying your sources.
@FartanSpartan: damn right. I always to remember the following when using a comments section: proper sources are for rivers, this is the internet, we just make things up here.
"The questions begin “How strong are they?”, “Will they last as long as my carbons?”, “What’s the technical control like?”.
We’ve heard it all, and the answers are – strong, yes, and bloody excellent."
Then...
"After a 5 day stretch and 100,000 repeats in the strength lab, Passchier’s stood up to the test and proved the perfect bars for bike packing adventures, commuting, and easy trails, while we decided to lean away from promoting any downhill, technical work, and jumps"
So strong...but don't ride anything technical on them... To
Those are awesome! Love the manufacturing process. That kind of know how will certainly translate into future uses. Props for expanding outside the box. I'm a free rider so my bars need to be industrial but I totally love stuff being made from plants.
I wonder what kind of epoxy and finishes they use to create the laminate? I do read that they're committed to sustainability, and NZ companies have a better track record at this than most. But once you put all that, usually petroleum based, glue on the wood it's not so "green" anymore.
I'd like to see the plant based carbon fiber that NREL, among other researchers, developed a few years ago become something commercially viable. www.popsci.com/carbon-fiber-from-plants
They look beautiful. Would look dope on a single speed or a fixie commuter . Obviously not for mountain biking unless you into casual trail riding. Not every one is into speed . Some of us want fun and comfort . And a good reason to be outside.
Seems a little silly to advertise a product that does not meet the astm standards for mountain biking on PB without a disclaimer anywhere. Given their appearance on the Stache, this is complete negligence. Please do not run these on your mountain bike if you're doing any technical riding or big features.
Classic… it with dismay that I read every comment. All negative cheap shots… bagging a product that you’ve never even tried! It surprises me that it’s possible to judge something without any first hand experience. I have had the experience of paddling with one of Dirks hand made crank shaft whitewater paddles… very well crafted, stylish and strong. Performance is very good. I wouldn’t hesitate to give the bars a go… at least then I could comment on there performance with integrity. It’s a shame that we have come to a place where can we hide behind a faceless pseudonym and assassinate something without any qualified judgement. Surely you could be doing something more productive with your time…
Relax, what do you expect when a product aimed at commuters and hipsters appears on a downhill/enduro/trail website... There's a market for the bars but it's not on Pinkbike.
Plus there's panda puns and French jokes, that's why half of us are here
when you really think about it, wood or it's grassy counterpart bamboo is natures' own 'composite material'.....essentially a composite like carbon fiber, but with biologicals.....
I actually won one of these in an Instagram contest. The company is super nice and easy to deal with and were pretty clear that they are targeting bike packing and adventure biking, not Enduro.
I actually don't have a need for them and will be putting them up on buy/sell shortly for half the price they retail for if anyone is interested (especially those in the Ottawa/Gatineau area or Bromont).
Your scientists were so preoccupied with...
I can't think of a product that could replace any existing part of my bike that I would be more disappointed to receive as a present. I wouldn't even regift it.
I'm a big fan of bamboo bikes. I've owned a few and still have one. I think you could make a bar our of bamboo that's as hard to destroy as anything else, but I have doubts about stiffness being adequate for the application.
That much sweep will ruin your wrists on hard descents. They're for casual or distance riding, not for hard off-road. That much sweep is pretty damned comfy when you're not riding hard off-road though.
Thought I’d give the a go as I like to be a bit different then I saw they were $250 and no where on their site does it say they are suitable for mountain biking.
i know eh, or at very least chuck all the none mtb related stuff into a category of its own. that way you can only blame yourself for clicking into said category lol
It's an interesting article for Pinkbike to run, a product with nothing to do with MTB, catered toward cycling, but definitely not they type of cycling Pinkbike is known for. Maybe Outside Mag advertorial dept. is starting to have a say. From Passchier's website: Gump 760: "tourers, ebikes & town commuters", Gump 650 "A tamed version of the Gump 760. Built to accommodate the town cruise"
@chacou: "interesting" is a rather nice way of putting it !
And i totally agree , would be nice to see this on the proper site/forum as for the majority of users who'll read this article aren't the target audience for this product.
@chacou: I agree with you that PB seems an odd place, but their own description seems a bit off. These have been gaining buzz among the bike packing crowd, which I guess does cross over with some MTBers.
@MDW83: PB might as well start running trail running shoe ads too, and camping ads, and top 10 most stylish button downs for the mountain brewery articles. I mean they kinda already do.
Edit: I gotta eat a bit of humble pie: Relative to weight, aluminium 6061-T62 is comparable to bamboo in strength and only about 30% stiffer. That is not at near as big a difference as I expected.
However, in strenght to area measures aluminium is about 3.4 times stiffer and 4.6 times stronger, making it much more well suited for most bicycle components which utilize tube constructions.
Sources: MMPDS-13 and a bamboo importer (www.bambooimport.com/en/what-are-the-mechanical-properties-of-bamboo)
I'd be surprised to ever see it on trail though, seems like a product catering toward the "more show than go" crowd.
Very respectable.
Let's not make that a habit here.
Think of it as vibrocore to the extreme
In french " pas chier " would essentially be the equivalent of " no shit " , which just looks like the companies spelling of passchier.
The name sounds French but its not . Now your all caught up !
Dude wtf ! You're seriously sick for saying that shit ^
hahah nah I'm just playing you didn't say anything really but you spelt "faire" correctly so that's a win !
We’ve heard it all, and the answers are – strong, yes, and bloody excellent."
Then...
"After a 5 day stretch and 100,000 repeats in the strength lab, Passchier’s stood up to the test and proved the perfect bars for bike packing adventures, commuting, and easy trails, while we decided to lean away from promoting any downhill, technical work, and jumps"
So strong...but don't ride anything technical on them... To
I'd like to see the plant based carbon fiber that NREL, among other researchers, developed a few years ago become something commercially viable. www.popsci.com/carbon-fiber-from-plants
Plus there's panda puns and French jokes, that's why half of us are here
I actually don't have a need for them and will be putting them up on buy/sell shortly for half the price they retail for if anyone is interested (especially those in the Ottawa/Gatineau area or Bromont).
That comment should have been "Will they last as long as a set of metal ones"!!
What was that? - face plant.
Gump 760: "tourers, ebikes & town commuters",
Gump 650 "A tamed version of the Gump 760. Built to accommodate the town cruise"
And i totally agree , would be nice to see this on the proper site/forum as for the majority of users who'll read this article aren't the target audience for this product.