With environmental issues getting harder to ignore, many discussions are had and claims are made about the environmental impact of different materials. The fact that aluminum can be recycled again and again is often cited as a major environmental advantage when compared to carbon fiber,
There is some truth to this. Aluminum is widely recycled, doing so requires about twenty times less energy than making virgin material and, importantly, it actually makes economic sense to do so. In fact, in some places, recyclers will actually pay you for scrap aluminum. Carbon fiber, on the other hand, isn't often recycled. At best, it gets chopped up and made into a reinforced plastic which can be used for something like a brake lever or the sole of a mid-range cycling shoe, but not another bike frame. When that reinforced plastic reaches the end of its (second) life, it's usually sent to landfill. So even when a carbon fiber frame or component
is recycled, this is usually a one-way process, more accurately described as downcycling rather than recycling.
But when companies and commenters lay it on thick about how their aluminum frame is recyclable, it gets me thinking - does anybody actually recycle their mountain bike frame? While aluminum is easy to recycle, bike frames are made of aluminum alloys containing many other metals, plus they're usually painted;
this makes it harder and less cost-effective to recycle compared to pure aluminum.
The last time I went to my local recycling centre I saw plenty of rusty and unloved kids bikes in a shipping container destined for who-knows-where, but not a single mountain bike made in the last twenty years. Not even one with a hub axle spacing we now know to be unrideable.
Perhaps some of those classic MTBs are still being ridden, but I doubt many are. When was the last time you saw an Orange Patriot or Iron Horse Sunday out on the trails? They used to be everywhere, so where have they all gone? Have many actually been recycled, or are they just sitting in a loft somewhere?
As long as those bikes haven't been sent to a landfill, there is hope they'll be recycled eventually, But if the average bike is used for say ten years, then sits in a loft for twenty more, that's a lot of aluminum taken out of circulation for a long time, meaning more has to be produced in the interim. So if you have recycled a frame, how old was it at the time?
Asking for a friend
REDUCE : nope
REUSE: over and over and over
RECYCLE: haven’t got there because of reuse
new advancements are unnecessary for 90% of us (AXS, wireless dropper, livewire suspension).
Add in the fact bikes and parts are in scarce supply, I think you will see a trend where people will keep there bikes more long term.
The peak in mountainbike record sales is near if not over. IMO
For example forks spare parts and service became harder after 5 year mark; I have 10 y old fork, and I'm finding hard to service it or justify cost of service at all, cheaper to buy new
In US minimum amount of resort operate w the summer, compared to EU, where anything with ski lift provide lift assisted services for mtb and hikes during the summer;
Which also will lead in more higher focus on the recycling, reusing and reducing
The focus on recycling and reusing is growing in all aspects of life, hopefully bike companies start offering a return reward for broken or old frames outside warranty. That obviously has issues that would need to be worked out, but it would be great
I wonder if it's still being ridden........
My Intense 5.5 EVP Raw is hanging on my wall. Its literally a work of art. And its not broken, just resting.
put it on the wall. That shit is art!
I used to work in a bikeshop that had a big container for anything metallic and every month a gypsy couple came all the way from Romania (2-3000 km) to buy it off us for a few euros, probably to sell it again to make a profit. No idea how as is must cost a ton of money just for petrol alone.
Alu scrap 1700-1800e / ton
there is a lot of money in this industry
"What do you do with a bike when you're finished riding it?"
I bought a new bike in 1987 (Still have an intact) and another in 1988 and still have all parts remaining (traded out frame). Last bike I sold was in 1988. lol
Now at least some companies offer tire recycling, however for other part I believe majority put them into the trash;
Jokes aside this is small step forward, hopefully we will see more options in future;
Also i have big question about ski gear? How people recycle old boots?
Regretted it ever since.
1) and 2) stolen unlocked in a communal garage, whoops for trusting people
3) stolen locked to a post in same garage, now store in apartment
4) and 5) gave to a gear swap raffle thing, got a bar bag and an MRE in exchange
6) too big for wife gave to mom
7) gave to brother-in-law during the great bike shortage
I would like to figure out if I can recycle any broken parts. Right now have a bent steel cassette but it has plastic spacers. Wonder if I can drill out the connecting pin and recycle the gears.
That's only the second frame I've ever broke (It being a warranty replacement/upgrade for the steel Trek 830 that preceded it.). Every other mtb I've owned has been given away to friends/family or sold online.
I've never understood why all of the bike parts, component & frame suppliers don't include a breakdown sheet with their products for each bike shop.
Information from a manufacturer on WHERE the bits & pieces they make "Go Next" is just Step 1 on the consumer end of establishing a recycling information database.
Seems like one of these e-tailers could aggregate the disposal protocol for each part & sell the database to manufacturers.
Customer comes in with X bike with X parts, employee punches into the database & gets all the strip down info.
Big hurdle...the shop would have to charge the consumer for the service b/c no matter what they pull off the bike to recycle, they're not recouping the labour cost at the sales counter of the recycler. But heck, we all NEED to do it.
Intense did the same. Steber would even weld head tubes back on at one point (or at least he did for the guy that I sold my original Uzzi DH to.
Yes, bikes kinda sucked in the 90s and early 2000s. Because of that, I have been trail riding big AM/FR/Enduro bikes since 2006. Yet I still seem to break frames constantly. Do my choices in frames suck (looking at you, Yeti)? Do bikes suck? Do pros break frames on a weekly basis? Or do I just suck?
Genuine question and I would love to understand how often this happens to others.
I've not known a single bike to not crack over the years. The only thing I know that didn't was the Turner DHR from day one had zero head tube failures.
The irony of that is that the best DHR ever, the 2011, was doomed by SAPA producing the first 200 DHR frames that year and every...single...one...cracked the very first ride.
First: You should know this one for sure -you have to #hecklersrock: youtu.be/efYZGWkq52M?t=241
And this is the way our broken frames be part of the game: fstatic1.mtb-news.de/v3/21/2134/2134800-zn0pld9vtoxx-ready2rumble-large.jpg
www.instagram.com/p/CK0f4o-BKTl
"the drunk bike". Some good hazy memories with that bike.
But
A GT Sanction noisemaker remains in the quiver
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjJGjlpMfv0
m.youtube.com/watch?v=KWunKA-ovpM
www.pinkbike.com/photo/21422444