Video: Ellsworth is Back on Track

Sep 13, 2015 at 20:46
by Ellsworth Team  
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Ellsworth. The name conjures memories of the rise of the Southern California boutique mountain bike culture. There were others, of course, but Ellsworth was the one that elicited some of the most passionate advocates. But where emotions run high, you’ll always find both ends of the love-it or hate-it spectrum. And there was Ellsworth Handcrafted Bicycles.

They have a long history of making high performance, full-suspension mountain bikes. The founder, Tony Ellsworth, created the brand with a precept to utilize U.S. manufacturing with U.S. sourced materials. He was successful for many years, and his aluminum bicycle frames were highly regarded throughout the world. As the bicycle industry shifted from traditional frame-building materials, like steel, titanium and aluminum, towards carbon fiber composites, the Ellsworth brand was compelled to follow the industry trend and sought resources outside the U.S. borders for its composites production.

2016 Epiphany 29

In reality, Ellsworth was a bit late to the carbon fiber game, and the market had moved on. Sales weren’t as brisk as they had been in the salad days of smoke ano and ICT dominance. And as with too many small-ish bike companies, one too many small setbacks can have disastrous consequences. A devastating wildfire, the economic recession, and poor capitalization created a pitfall that Ellsworth could not escape.

With declining sales in a very competitive market landscape, Tony Ellsworth sought out a solution to highlight his bikes and return to his longtime commitment to U.S manufacturing. He orchestrated a deal to sell Ellsworth Handcrafted Bicycles to BST Nano Carbon of Rancho Bernardo, California. With new capitol and resources to resuscitate his long-time vision, BST and Ellsworth plan to bring their bicycle manufacturing back to California for the 2016 model range.

While all of Ellsworth’s aluminum frame production has remained in California, the first new product planned for the Rancho Bernardo facility is the newly revised ICT seatstay assembly. Next on the list are bicycle frames, but they have a reasonable, planned manufacturing timeline to start frame production in Southern California for the 2017 range.

Ellsworth PR images

Ellsworth is effectively a new company, with new management, some interesting new products, and with what seems like a tight-knit group of enthusiastic and dedicated people. Here’s to hoping that they can steward Mr. Ellsworth’s original vision of American manufacturing, high performance products, and the promise of great customer service.

History Notes:

• Ellsworth founded in 1991 in Southern California
• ICT rear suspension patented in 1997
• Always focused on best practices/environmental stewardship
• Long-term commitment to US manufacturing and US sourced materials
• Highly regarded active suspension (Instant Center Tracking)
• Always known for excellent craftsmanship and production quality
• Started full carbon fiber frame development 2011
• Resorted to outsourced Asian manufacturing for carbon fiber frames/frame components for 2012 model range
• Continued US aluminum frame manufacturing and production
• BST Nano Carbon of San Diego acquired Ellsworth in September 2014
• BST Nano Carbon and Ellsworth will be manufacturing the new ICT seatstays in their San Diego facility for the 2016 model range
• New designs for the 2017 range will be manufactured in San Diego
• Lots of new hires and new management
• Ellsworth has a stacked design and engineering team that has the technical capabilities to create bikes to compete in the market with any brand
• They will be able to respond more quickly to market trends and emerging ideas than all of the outsourcing brands
• Lead times for production will be cut drastically
• Ellsworth has the resources to be a leader in laminate design
• With a new revision for 2016, ICT has been modernized, yet still retains all of the active bump compliance and pedaling efficiency that so many riders have appreciated for so many years
• Ellsworth will support the Independent Bike Dealer network
• Ellsworth is effectively a new company with new management, new products, and a small, but enthusiastic team
• “America’s Bike

www.ellsworthbikes.com

Ellsworth PR images


MENTIONS: @ellsworthbikes



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191 Comments
  • 192 29
 I'm glad they dropped the 1999 stinky frame for a 2002 stinky frame.
  • 62 45
 The Ellsworth ICT suspension works and rides nothing like Stinky's modified single pivot. Just because they look similar does not mean they are the same. It's like saying: "My 2005 Fox Van RC is the same as your 2016 Fox DHX2 TiN SLS, they both have piggy backs, steel springs, and compression adjustment." ICT is based off of the FSR suspension link that Specialized stole from Horst Leitner.

By moving the rear pivot from the shock stay to the chain stay and moving the virtual pivot point way out in front of the front wheel the Ellsworth virtually eliminates chain growth as the bike moves through it's travel. Allowing the suspension to stay active all of the time.

Advantages: Brake jack is completely eliminated and you can continue to pedal through technical trail conditions with out the suspension locking up and pounding the crap out of you. This makes the bike significantly faster, more plush, and more efficient over rough terrain. Things that single pivot, VPP, and DW Links are not great at.

Disadvantages: There is no mechanical pedal platform, standing up and sprinting will create a lot of pedal bob (but that is what lock out is for). The chainstays have to be longer than other suspension designs. ICT bikes can feel less "playful" because you don't have the same ramp up to push against out of corners or when hopping over things.

TL/DR Spend some time on an Ellsworth before you knock the suspension design.
  • 93 8
 I bet you are fun at parties ^^
  • 9 12
 only idiots compare bike by looks first, as we all know with performance engineering, what it looks like is the most important thing...
  • 15 0
 Oh and Specialized didn't steal the Horst link they paid good money for it and credit him by calling it the Horst link.
  • 22 6
 @sewer-rat I don't know what you mean. Everyone likes counting ceiling tiles at parties! Right Guys? Guys....
  • 6 18
flag vroomvroompartystarter (Sep 14, 2015 at 17:43) (Below Threshold)
 Do you always get this butt hurt over an obvious joke comment?
  • 5 9
flag bigdrop44 (Sep 14, 2015 at 18:51) (Below Threshold)
 Looks like a session
  • 6 6
 @roccityrider
VPP and DW link virtually eliminate brake jack and are great while pedaling through rough terrain.
  • 8 3
 Prop for negging the only logical comment that only stated facts about a suspension design... Say what you want but the tech they put into the new line of bikes is pretty good like the angular contact bearings and the rocker locker. Finally some no nonsense proven mechanical designs, not some proprietary bullshit with 300% better everything compared to nothing else out there but in house tests done with prototypes....
  • 13 11
 Moronic Stinky comment with 150 pluses, an actual knowledgeable comment, negative. Pink bike.
  • 5 4
 Agreed
  • 1 0
 I love the look of the old Ellsworth Epiphanys and Moments. I have owned some of them and they ride amazing with a truely bottomless suspension feeling. Who the hell has designed the rocker on the new bikes ort to be ass whipped, its the ugliest flimsy looking thing I have ever seen.
  • 140 15
 Wow, I get the first post:

1) Looks like a crappy session.
2) Ellsworth put himself into obscurity, treating customers like crap, not honoring warranties, and pushing outdated designs.
  • 22 16
 FAKT
  • 12 47
flag Axxe (Sep 13, 2015 at 21:04) (Below Threshold)
 You failed On the first post that is.
  • 24 8
 The thing just looks like crap. They had a lot of time, and they made it look like crap. Atleast we saw Morpheus make a sweet downhill bike.
  • 37 11
 holy fricken advertisement pb. at least give us something entertaining and not just some shit corporate video.. The laziness is just .. wow. this might be why i rarely come onto the front page. have some integrity PB
  • 8 3
 Must be hard following the recent SC bike post.
I feel for anyone/thing in a downward spiral, good luck Ellsworth.
  • 54 7
 I see a lot of posts by people who don't know the man or the company. There's horror stories about every company's warranties. Every company and person makes mistakes. I grew up w the ellsworth family. His oldest son Anthony was a good friend of mine. I rode 24 hrs of adrenaline w them, spent time at their house and my first trials/street bike was an ellsworth specialist. Tony helped kids like me and others get into competitive mtb in any way he could. And here i am 15 years later still riding and racing. And he helped his team riders personally in ways well past what a sponsor usually would do for a team rider. I'm not a huge fan of the newer bikes either but hopefully they will listen to the consumer like they said they would. Give the guys a chance.
  • 14 4
 So they ditch Air Supply out of the designing division and recruited Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys.
  • 11 12
 All I have to say is... At least it's not an Orange.
  • 13 5
 id much rather ride an orange over an ellsworth any day.
  • 3 2
 Roedty, it's great that you've been exposed to Ellsworth's good side. Just realize that the more "good" one does the worse it is when it's at the expense of others. It's like: "My pastor/coach/community leader does so much good! It's just that he beats his wife and children at home and underpays his employees and lies on his tax returns and lets his dog poop on other people's lawns." See? Except in Tony's case, the money he pours back into the community comes at the expense of disgruntled customers. All the "good" someone does doesn't excuse the bad; it doesn't make up for broken words and lack of integrity. It just points to someone, who's two-faced and disintegrated.

You steamroll over people, and Karma will give you what you deserve.
  • 1 0
 Which "Steps to the Top" video is the song in this Ellsworth video from?
  • 4 2
 And Tony Ellsworth, I mean, Roedty, don't send me private messages; that's just scary.
  • 5 0
 Tom: post it,
  • 1 3
 @tombasic You're 15 yrs old. Shut the h*** up. I've been riding for longer than you've been alive.
  • 1 0
 'i had 3 frames replaced. from the ID way back in the day through the moment. Been riding Dare's for 4 years. The ICT platform really does translate through the different disciplines of Mtn Biking
  • 3 1
 Roedty, please stop sending me pm's. You've sent me a second one, and I'm deleting that one, also without reading it. All you're doing is confirming that my original post hit where it hurt. Everyone's entitled to their opinion on here. Just don't make it personal by sending me threats or diatribe or whatever it is you can't say publicly.

Any further communication from you and I will follow vernonjeff's advice to make it public.

I don't know when I first started hearing "Tony" stories, but it was probably before YOU started riding. I've been following mountain biking from the late 80's.

Keep in mind, your actions and replies aren't helping Ellsworth's cause.
  • 80 7
 Their bikes are an embarrassment to the sport. Tony Ellsworth has long been regarded as a capitol douche. It makes no difference to me wether this company succeeds or not. Harsh but true.
  • 41 2
 Plus anyone who uses the word 'Synergy' with a straight face has their tighty whities a bit too...tight
  • 6 1
 I can think of other bikes that are more of an embarrassment.
  • 5 1
 ^y-foils?
  • 5 1
 Slingshot?
  • 4 4
 proflex
  • 3 2
 Honestly a little harsh. They made some cool bikes back in the day (Ellsworth Truth), and any loss in the cycling industry is a sad day. Luckily for us there's lots of good competition among brands now.
  • 49 4
 "Ellsworth is back on track" - To where? 1992?
  • 44 4
 "America's Bike" - no please, stop NOW
  • 68 2
 I think intense deserves that title
  • 18 27
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 13, 2015 at 23:43) (Below Threshold)
 I am proud to be American, in the land of free
  • 15 2
 Guess Santa Cruz, Intense, Specialised, Trek, Yeti or any of the other brands aren't as worthy to be America's bike as the Ellsworth huh?
  • 6 1
 Hahaha Waki is sarcastic lately.
  • 13 17
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 14, 2015 at 5:17) (Below Threshold)
 I like to say that I like America because it annoys the stupid part of Euros.
  • 1 0
 which is the un stupid part?
  • 1 0
 You may not know that some citizens of all countries of Europe deeply dislike USA for imperial practices and exponential energy consumption. No matter how true it may be Europe behaves in exactly same way, at least as much as our influence allow us. It is a case of accusing others of your own treats. But Canada is cool, you make riots to protect climate and dismantle globalization. You also apologize a lot, we like that.
  • 2 1
 WAKIlegend
  • 2 0
 Yeah, Canada is right up there battling climate change www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/dec/13/canada-pulls-out-kyoto-protocol
  • 40 1
 Back with a frame sporting 2005 29er geometry! Where can I get in line?
  • 11 0
 What , you don't want a 14.75 bottom bracket and 23.9 toptube on your long, low and slack enduro b? Smile
  • 12 2
 350mm BB and 70 degree head angle on the above bike.

Awesome 29" trials bike.
  • 5 7
 Sounds like every other 29" xc bike on the market....
  • 11 0
 back to the drawing board for their enduro and dh line up for geo. Gotta hire someone who knows what they are doing
  • 15 0
 Do I spy a 100mm stem on that thing?
  • 4 0
 Last Ellsworth I rode, front wheel hit your forward foot if you turned the bars. the problem with this company is the designer. Doesn't sound like that's changing.
  • 4 2
 The geometry is so far backwards it makes Santa Cruz's latest efforts seem edgy.
  • 37 0
 Well, at least that god-awful swingarm is gone..
  • 17 0
 Little bit disappointed there's no rocker link longer than the top tube!
  • 29 0
 Neither a fan nor a hater... never owned one. But I remember thinking how outdated their bikes looked each time I saw one an wondered why they were so slow to evolve.

"A devastating wildfire, the economic recession, and poor capitalization created a pitfall that Ellsworth could not escape.... With declining sales in a very competitive market landscape..."

Hmm, how about declining sales due to lack of innovation. Other small companies like Pivot and Santa Cruz have thrived. Because they innovate. Good luck BST Nano... but your hot new model looks already dated and uninspired...
  • 7 0
 Don't forget they tried to patent the SINGLE PIVOT!!! They calles it ATLAS or something like that...
  • 3 1
 @mjlundy I lived in San Diego while that fire was burning and it really was devastating. Over 2,000 homes were burned and 15 people died.
  • 1 0
 Whoops that reply was for @hampsteadbandit
  • 32 0
 Needs more stem !!!
  • 28 0
 Very touching monday morning marketing bullshit. I really liked it.
  • 27 2
 This article reads like a job application or a dating profile of some desperate old guy. Just kneel down and beg us to accept you while your at it
  • 3 0
 This has made my day, thank you.
  • 18 0
 I seen the video and the smartest thing that man did was remove himself from his brand. But I will never buy one after they told my friend to go f himself over a broken triangle.
  • 15 0
 A 140mm trail bike with a 69.5 head angle!?? Last time I saw that was on an Iron horse MkIII !!

WRT the video, you can't ask people to buy your bikes out of pity and "home grown" employment ethics.
  • 4 0
 I've noticed that as MTB matures, certain designers from the old days refuse to modernize their designs, as they lose their mental flexibility & turn into crotchety oldsters. Ellsworth really strikes me as one of those stories.
  • 19 5
 Man, God help the entrepreneur! People spend so much time complaining about the ‘Big S’ you would think people would throw the little guy a bone. Granted, he’s apparently amassed a reputation that may be deserved, I wouldn’t know. That said, my respect will always go to the entrepreneur that steps out there and puts it on the line. The man built a bike company out of nothing! What have you built lately? If you hate his bikes, fine, but the ‘little guys’ everyone purports to be such fans of should get some respect.
That said, I hope the new company takes the feedback of people that actually ride the bikes and adapts fast and effectively.
And remember...
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "
  • 10 15
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 14, 2015 at 0:40) (Below Threshold)
 A.Who is a critic? Steve Jones, James Wilson or random dude on internet? B. Critics don't give a damn if they are douches, it is people who chose to listen to them or not. C.I like your transcendence, if holy Mary would be an entrepreneur, that descroption would fit her Big Grin
  • 13 0
 • Ellsworth has a stacked design and engineering team that has the technical capabilities to create bikes to compete in the market with any brand

Well how come you are only offering a short & long sizing on your new Moment which effectively is like other companies small & medium when you look at the numbers? How is that competing with any brand?

And before the warriors start I owned original Moments & Epiphany so don't start on the 'if you even rode one' band wagon.....

This company seems to be going backwards.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, and f@ck tall people huh? 6'4" and super psyched for Ellsworth...
  • 15 1
 Looking forward to the robot report on this.
  • 6 0
 Someone go knock on the van to wake up Charlie.
  • 10 0
 lol ellsworth dare, 15" bb height and categorized as "Enduro/Freeride/Downhill"
  • 10 2
 alot of hate.....but this is what they needed....a step in the right direction.
  • 8 4
 Seems hip to bash on Ellsworth these days. I never owned one,so I'm not aware of all those problems,but it puzzels me people trashing a brand that is trying to make bikes in the USA. Even Intense is going chinese with their frames. That was a cool video.
  • 7 0
 Take a stroll over to the ellsworthless section on mtbr.........Tony has screwed over a lot of customers. I challenge you to read through some of those customer service threads. Ellsworthless is getting what he deserves. He would have to make good with all those customers to even begin to change his rep.
  • 5 1
 never owned an Elsworth but did hear of issues back in the day. Thats was a long time ago and I think the new ownership should be given an opprotunitiy to show what they can do..

The moment seems to have slack geo and long reach but a high bb.
ellsworthbikes.com/bike/moment
I like low bb's but maybe is a good option if you ride rocky stuff where pedal strikes are a pain. Just cos loww BBs are invogue right now doesnt mean they are the best apporch for all terrain.

its nice to see another player out there, back offering options.
  • 5 1
 As odd as the geometry numbers sound on the Epiphany (140mm rear/150mm front yet only 69.5 deg head angle, 632mm TT but only 444mm reach)....I'd still be intrigued to hear a full report/review of one. Odd geometry yes, but companies like Kona and Mondraker have challenged conventional geometry numbers that the industry thought to be optimally dialled and they've come out the other side with stellar results on their trail/enduro bike ranges. I just hope these geometry numbers were the result of Ellsworth fiddling with geometry and finding out something positive that we don't about geometry/handling/design, rather than this just being a really bad, outdated oversight.
  • 1 1
 Correction looking at the Ellsworth site again, the Head angles are as follows:

Epiphany Alloy (rated for XC, trail and enduro)

27.5 - 67.5 deg.
29er - 66.5 deg.


Epiphany Carbon (rated for race, XC and trail)

27.5 - 69.5 deg.
29er - 69.8 deg.

Interesting choices. Again; very intrigued to see what the reviews make of these bikes....
  • 2 2
 The only people in the industry who thought those old numbers were dialed were old people riding like old people on easy or weird terrain. That's why that ellesworth has a stupid long stem on it. It's for old people, riding flat terrain. Good thing though because those are the only people that can afford a bike made in North America. It is amazing how much hate this has stirred up. Tony and his dudes must have really pissed off a lot of people. One things for certain Shaums march was the man!
  • 1 0
 I don't think they actually ship with that stem though. The website states that the Epiphany build is with a Thomson X4 50mm x 0° x 31.8mm. Which makes me wonder why they'd commit Pinkbike suicide and fit that monstrosity in the product shot here?!
  • 1 0
 I also hope they considered including routing for a dropper post as they don't seem to include a dropper post on any level of their builds....(I repeat....."rated for XC, trail and enduro"....and I doubt this'll be a cheap full build to buy either!)
  • 2 0
 Hey, guys. Arna86 has it right - our two Epiphany choices are built around two different rider profiles and intended uses. The carbon bikes are designed as the more cross-country oriented bike of the two. The Epiphany Alloy bikes have slacker head angle geometry and are better suited for steep, choppy descents and high speed trails in comparison. In the end, it's all about preference, and we're happy to offer a different option to the market. The stems specs are as follows - carbon is 90mm, alloy is 50mm. Both of these models have stealth dropper routing options.
  • 4 0
 It seems there are two reactions when talking about Ellsworth bikes. They're either the greatest bikes in the history of bikes, or they're overrated pieces of garbage sold by an egomaniac.

I never owned one. To me, the big, dopey swing arm was always kind of ugly, and in the last 10 years or so looked really outdated. But I think some saw that as a "signature" look and kind of appreciated it. And damn they had some nice ano paint jobs!

I don't think the new one looks half bad. And I didn't find the video all that objectionable. It will be interesting to see which direction they'll go.
  • 6 0
 Sadly, Ellsworth continues to demonstrate just how many years behind they really are when it comes to R&D.
  • 4 0
 @Shaums March hucking to snapped bottom bracket spindle to make a few bucks at Seven Springs is the lead off.

Shaums, how much money did we raise for you to huck that thing that night???
  • 1 0
 Wasn't that much from what I remember
  • 1 0
 It was maybe $50. But that's 8 tanks of gas back then....hah!
  • 4 0
 Well, Tony was right when he said he was holding back the company. . Perhaps the right people in the right places will give a long standing brand a new life. It would be nice to see some carbon frames made in the USA. .
  • 5 0
 The geometry is so far off from what the market wants right now. Are they serious? Who signed off on this geometry?
  • 3 0
 Agree with you 110%. Don't know what Ellsworth doing. Maybe should stop being lain back and concentrate on what's the markets wants. 15.29 BB on a DH rig is a joke. Unless Ellsworth has a secret their hiding.....
  • 4 0
 15.29 bb height common Ellsworth...who's gonna ride a bike with that kind of bb height...it's going to handle like walking on stilts, make a real DH bike Ellsworth
  • 11 9
 First off, sure, geo is messed up and video was disgusting but bike is not that ugly. Looks concerned I'd take it over any German bike (save Capra) and latest Santas. At least it looks expensive. When you see graphics and tubin of 2004 Stinky and you are expected to pay 10k just because it says Santa Cruz on frame and ENVE on wheels then, well that Ellsworth is a beauty
  • 3 0
 c'mon, waki. i think i'd take nics and lasts over it.
  • 5 3
 I have a 2014 Ellsworth evolve with the 2016 xtr. Guess what, it rides better than my 2013 s works epic with full xx1 and carbon wheels, and it's about 3lbs lighter than my s works(Ellsworth is 22lbs) I'm not sure about the customer service or tony, I just know the bike rides great, and isn't that what you buy a bike for? The performance, and not the owner...anyways everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and I respect what everyone has to say.
  • 1 0
 Those who have the time to comment are not out thrashing on there favorite MTB. All bike designs and wheel sizes have there advantages and disadvantages it comes down to the style and terrain you favor. Having a choice here in the US makes us all lucky riders.
  • 1 0
 I know this is an old thread. I have never seen more immaturity in my life. Most of you hater types are so ridiculous that I wonder how you actually make it through life. Seriously, unless you have taken the time to ride the brand you bash then don't make comments. If you think Ellsworth/BST makes an ugly product or it doesn't fit your geometry preference then don't buy the darn thing, just go buy what you like or can afford without judging how others make their decisions. MTB is an incredible sport and so individual. Many thousands of people love the way an Ellsworth looks and rides. Manufacturers can't please everyone, it's impossible. Why are you so upset that Ellsworth doesn't make the perfect bike for you or that their geometry is "old"? Do you want one?? If it was designed how you like would you buy one? Seriously, what's the anger for? Move on people. BST-Ellsworth keep making incredible looking and riding mountain bikes and providing great service!
  • 7 1
 Shaums March!
  • 5 1
 so if i ride an ellsworth i become way faster and steezy and also hook up with hot girls?
  • 4 0
 This could be very very cool if they respond to the consumers on the design side of things.
  • 5 0
 I've seen empty crisp packets that are more inspiring than that video.
  • 5 0
 I'm going to make it a point to ride one at Interbike this week
  • 4 1
 Wake the F---up,it needs to look bitchen along with performance.Not a hard thing to do!
  • 4 7
 Just saying... Have you ridden one?
  • 5 2
 It's like Ellsworth's sole reason for being is to provide fuel for TeamRobot. I cannot wait for this one.
  • 1 1
 I applaud Ellsworth for manufacturing in the USA and sticking to that priority, I wish more companies would do this. I wish I could support you, but I find your bikes ugly and - much more importantly- the geometry numbers all wrong. If only this thread and the Turner RFX could be combined, I may be tempted by carbon. Until then, I will stick to looking for North American made metal bikes.
  • 3 1
 Ellsworthless gives Made In the USA a black eye.............You would do much better with the RFX
  • 3 0
 Good luck Ellsworth team. Thanks Tony & BST for bringing jobs back to the USA.
  • 1 0
 Why all the hate against these new bikes? I don't think they look that bad. Sure the rear triangle is a bit wierd, but it looks way better than the earlier design. I just don't get it...
  • 2 0
 Is there a special store video makers go to for inspirational background music?
  • 2 0
 Actually, yes there is. I've used this very song from an artist on musicbed.com...hahaha
  • 3 0
 this whole thread needs uncle dave
  • 2 1
 Never even seen one let alone ridden one, but if a bike or a bike company can generate this much negative comment then I doubt anyone will buy one.
  • 1 0
 I had an older Ellsworth Dare. I cracked the frame at a weld and they wouldn't warranty the frame. Horrible customer service too.
  • 1 0
 I just hope they have strippers pumping beer at their dirt demo booth at inter bike again this year.
  • 4 2
 Smellsworth s pretty penny
  • 8 7
 Why the fuk you lying why you always lying mmmmohhh god stop fuking lying!!!
  • 4 2
 if i was bst i wouldn't have sunk my money into mr.ellsworth...
  • 2 1
 I know for a fact that some were promoted.
  • 3 2
 Honestly I don't see much wrong with the bikes. The only complaint I can think of is the 148 axle spacing.
  • 4 3
 It's like the Chargers and the Padres. I'm not a true fan, but I'd be stoked to see them do well nonetheless.
  • 3 3
 Typical Ellesworth .Glad to see they haven't let themselves down again by making shit liking bikes....said no one ever!! I'm amazed this company is still in business.
  • 2 0
 Tough crowd here, but yeah the video was just brutal.
  • 3 2
 Funny, I hated Ellsworths but rather like the look of this one, generic as it is.
  • 1 0
 if this was 2005, i'd say nice looking bike. too bad the geo's all kinds of wrong.
  • 3 1
 whats BST stand for, buII shit tony?
  • 2 0
 Who cares, they make a FUCKING FAT BIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 2 0
 When old and new would have a baby...this would be their beauty child!
  • 2 1
 Funny I think everyone on this page who defends Ellsworth also has one for sale.
  • 2 2
 Lol people think ellsworth look like kona lol? Have you ever ridden one or know anyone who has? No????? Then keep stop sqaking like a duck
  • 1 0
 This is why I rarely come on Pinkbike anymore...80% of you, haven't got a clue lmao !!!
  • 2 0
 Dat stem
  • 1 0
 Looking forward to my demo ride on Epiphany+!
  • 3 2
 damn,really hope you rest in peace
  • 3 2
 Ooo look they completely changed . . . their font.
  • 15 15
 "narrow minded comment based purely upon the looks of the bike rather than its ride characteristics"
  • 15 15
 your 16. you know nothing.
  • 6 4
 ^Wow… harsh but true?
  • 36 1
 Before you criticize a 16 year old, be sure to use the correct form of your/ you're. In this case you should have used you're. That way you look smarter than a 7 year old.
  • 10 3
 My grammar is sooo much betterer.
  • 2 1
 If the Epiphany had a head angle of 66 degrees, I would buy one again.
  • 2 0
 The new Moment has a head angle of 66.5 at 160mm of travel.
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 At least ditch the qr rear axle!!!
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 Hey, jeffhall124. You're seeing a QR on the drive side, but it functions as part of a tool-free 12mm thru-axle system. We have some pics of the axle on our tech page on the site. It uses a hexagonal taper interface in the dropout on both sides. It's easy to use and adds to the stiffness improvements we made to the bike for this year. It's actually pretty cool. Holler at me if you have any questions about it. I'd be happy to give you a full rundown.

Ryan Johnson
ryan.johnson@ellsworthbikes.com
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 Good or bad idea to put a 140 fork on it?
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 liking the colors on those.
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 Looks like a 19" chain stay
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 doctors and lawyers have been waiting for the new bike....
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 Not. Waiting for client payments to afford an RFX.
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 wow, a "not" joke. Turners are too mainstream for them and not built shitty enough
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 Umm, guess I better get rid of the two Tuners I have since they aren't shitty enough.
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 dont forget your ceramic bearings that you doctors think you need
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 Looks pretty dated.
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 just....no
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 All these commenters harshly talking down about a bike/s they've never ridden. Typical!
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 I don't need to try bottoming to say if I will like it or not... Anticipation, imagination and estimation are one of the main things that made humans such a successful species
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 These things along with consensus and reputation are all you need to make pretty fair assessment. I don't need to ride every department store brand bike to know they're all shit just like I don't need to spend 3 years riding a Demo to know roughly how different it will ride to my V10.
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flag pigit77 (Sep 14, 2015 at 16:41) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns Would it be correct anticipation, imagination, and estimation that your mom is a scank? Hmm, I bet you haven't thought of it that way....
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 Terrible banter, better luck next time.
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 Id reather be eaten alive by piranhas that ride and elsworth.
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 Interesting... What do you do on your spare time?
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 I wouldn't know.
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 worst bike of the year award goes to Ellsworth, that thing is horrible!
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 Looks better than the new hunchback lapierre.
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 Pink bike would never do it but if there were a top 10 ugliest bikes of the year it would be the Hunchback of Lapierre at number 1
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 So ugly
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