First Ride: The 2024 Giant Trance X Advanced

Apr 10, 2024 at 16:01
by Henry Quinney  


Giant has a passion for two things - bicycles and some confusing naming conventions. With that in mind, let me introduce you to the Giant Trance X Advanced, the Trance X, the Trance X Advanced SX and, of course, the Trance X SX. While some of them might sound like a burlesque techno evening, I can assure you that they are bicycles, and in fairness, they look to be ones that will cater to mountain bikers who want all that makes a modern trail bike good - mature, progressive geo, clever features and plenty of adjustment.
Trance X Details

• 140 mm travel rear, 150 mm fork
• 29" Wheels / 27.5" for SX
• Carbon or Alloy frame
• 64.8° degree head tube angle
• Geo and reach adjustment
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Weight: 13.7kg / 30.2lb (size large)
• Price: $3,700 - $8,000 USD
giant-bicycles.com/

All the Trance X models have added rear travel compared to the outgoing model. The Trance X Advanced and Trance X models have 140mm of travel, paired with a 150mm fork. The new, longer travel “SX” models, including the Trance Advanced SX and Trance X SX, have 145 mm of rear travel and a 160mm fork. They offer this differing amount of travel by changing the stroke of the shock by 2.5mm. The longer travel SX isn't compatible with a 29" rear, and there are carbon and alloy frame options for both.

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Frame Details

The Maestro 3 system used on this bike features a flip chip, but it's not there only there to tune the angles of your bike. The chip, which offers three positions, also doubles up as a way of adjusting between 29 and 27.5" wheels. As stock, the SX versions will come mixed wheeled only, whereas the other models will come stock 29" but can go to 27.5". Due to the extra travel, the SX won't be able to go to bigger wheels. Giant suggests the bike is ridden in the mid or low positions with a larger wheel and mid or high with a smaller one. Outside of the suggestion, it will work, but the geometry might get slightly wayward.

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At the headtube, there are also easily removable headset cups that offer +/-5mm of reach adjustment from the center. On models that feature Giant's Contact SLR Trail one-piece bar, riders will feature more adjustment still. Common complaints of one-piece bars are that if you want to change stem length, you have to go to a different bar, and there is no way to effect the roll. This setup has a large chip under the top cap. It means riders can have a setup that offers three different lengths: 40, 45 or 50mm. But it gets better. The system also uses headset spacers to offer +/-3 degrees of handlebar roll. Admittedly, this is solving a problem that was made with the advent of one-piece carbon handlebars, but it's still good to see. The top cap also allows for GoPro, light or GPS fixings. To Giant's credit, they've offered something that undermines a lot of the criticism of the concept, all while still giving the weight saving of around 200 grams.

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Other frame features include internal frame storage, near-ubiquitous Boost hub spacing, tool mounts on the underside of the top tube and an angular, asymmetric rocker.

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The geometry for the 29" Trance X.

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And the mixed-wheeled SX.

Geometry


Stock builds will be set in the mid position. From there, the low position reduces the angle by 0.4 degrees, and the high steepens by around 0.3 degrees. The full 29" bike has a head angle of 64.8-degrees, and the Trance SX 63.6-degrees. The seat tube angles see a similar difference between the two models, at 77.5 and 76.3 respectively, and are potentially inverse of what a rider may want. Typically, longer travel bikes are ridden on steeper climbs and descents, and shorter travel, slightly less aggressive ones are slightly shallower gradients. In an ideal world, the slacker SX would have a steeper seat tube to compensate. However, that's just the limitation of making one frame do two wheel sizes, flip chips or not.

The bike's reach is quite contemporary, at 480 mm for a large size. Again, the small 27.5" rear wheel of the SX will affect reach, reducing it by around 10mm and slightly increasing the stack value.

The bikes use the same rear end length across all models and sizes.

Giant MY25

Suspension Layout

Would it be a Giant if it didn't feature Maestro? That's one for the philosophers. The Maestro 3 system uses a swingarm and two co-rotating links to drive the shock. The bottom shock-eyelet hardware also doubles up the mount for the lower link to connect to the front triangle. Giant seems to be all-in on Trunnions, and this Trance X is no different.

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The Maestro bikes tend to give a neutral and easy-to-live with predictability, and the Trance looks to be made in a similar vein. Anti-rise is relatively flat, hovering between 55-60%; anti-squat floats between 105 and 85%, giving a higher reading at the start and end of the travel, and the leverage progression is linear-progressive. This means that while it does more force to get the bike to move through its stroke at later stages, the change the leverage undergoes is relatively consistent.

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Builds & Pricing

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The Trance X Advanced 0.

Trance X Advanced 0 - $8,000USD / $10,499 CAD Fox Factory Grip2 36 and Factory Float X, SRAM XO AXS T-Type drivetrain, Shimano XT M8120 brakes, Giant TRX carbon wheels

Trance X Advanced 1 - $7,000USD / $8,499 CAD Fox Performance Elite Grip2 36 and Factory Float X, SRAM GX AXS T-Type drivetrain, Shimano XT M8120 brakes, Giant TRX carbon wheels

Trance X Advanced 2 - Not Available in US / $5,899 CAD - Fox Rhythm Grip 36 and Performance Float, Shimano SLX drivetrain, Shimano Deore M6120 brakes, Giant TRX carbon wheels

Trance X Advanced 3 - P&A TBC Fox Rhythm Grip 36 and Performance Float, Shimano Deore drivetrain, Shimano BR-MT420 brakes, Giant TRX carbon wheels

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Trance X 1 - $3,700 USD / $4,499 CAD Fox Performance Grip and Performance Float, Shimano SLX drivetrain, Shimano BR-MT420 brakes, Giant TRA alloy wheels

Trance X 2 - Not Available in US / $3,899 CAD Fox Rhythm Grip 36 and Performance Float, Shimano Deore drivetrain, Shimano BR-MT420 brakes, Giant TRA2 alloy wheels

Trance X Advanced SX - $5,600 USD / $6,499 Fox Performance Elite Grip2 36 and Performance Elite Float X, Shimano SLX drivetrain, Shimano BR-MT420 brakes, Giant TRX carbon wheels

Trance X SX - Not Available in US / $3,999 CAD Fox Rhythm Grip 36 and Marzocchi Bomber Air, Shimano Deore Drivetrain, Shimano BR-MT420 brakes, Giant TRA2 alloy wheels

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Ride Impressions

Having only got the bike a few days before the busiest week in the bike industry ever I certainly haven't got as much riding in as I would like on the new Trance. That said, some things are obvious. Firstly, this is an actual 29" trail bike that weighs around thirty pounds, which is a rarer sight than it once was. On the climbs, you can definitely surge up them, with the Maestro platform granting a lot of grip. It's also neutral and predictable in just about every way, which I personally really enjoy.

That said, it perhaps doesn't feel like the burliest of bikes and can feel a little skittish when going full chat, although I put that down to the Exo tires more than anything. Overall, this offers a nice blend of radical to reasonable, and I look forward to getting many more miles in on it over the spring.




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164 Comments
  • 179 4
 No cable tourism, which deserves applause... Looks pretty sick
  • 66 2
 Well, they’ve had the formula dialed since at least 2014. If it ain’t broke, Giant doesn’t fix it...

2014 model: www.pinkbike.com/photo/26479571
2024 model: www.pinkbike.com/photo/26479572
  • 11 0
 @WRCDH: a 2016 trance 1 was my first full suspension. Wish I never would've sold the old girl
  • 6 0
 @formerbmxguy: had a 2016 Trance 3 which got pretty heavily upgraded as my riding did, sold it to a friend so I still see it often. Great bike.
  • 4 0
 Sick
  • 7 0
 @WRCDH: My 2014 Trance 27.5 2 has served me well. Still going strong.
  • 9 1
 @formerbmxguy: I got the same bike used
at the peak of the first Covid wave, and I'll probably never sell it. It's funny because I used to use it as my do everything bike, but as bikes have gotten heavier and heavier, and the old girl weighs 27LBS with 140 travel, it's kind of like a 27.5 Downcountry bike from before Downcountry was a thing.
  • 1 2
 @WRCDH: The head and seat tube angles have been helpful. Although I'm not in the market for a Giant at all.
  • 4 0
 @Glory831Guy: i built a 2017 Trance "dumpster" bike from a warrantied 17 front end and 16 rear. With spare parts I got it going for a little under $ 250 Cad. then gave it away to a friend who's a trailbuilder with kids therefore not saving a lot of money. It's still going strong. It was a fantastic bike.
  • 1 0
 @WRCDH: That's amazeballs
  • 97 8
 Gotta be the first time I've seen a Giant and thought " yeah I'd buy that."
  • 25 0
 Thought the same thing when I bought the 2020 Advance Pro 1. Tweaked it with a longer air shaft, burlier tire's, touch points, etc. and find it pretty awesome for the price and it's just under 30lbs. I've beat the snot out of it and the TRX carbon wheels are still dead straight. I would buy one again for sure.
  • 2 0
 Same
  • 43 3
 As a contrarian by default I think that a giant is actually the coolest bike one can ride due to its total lack of coolness.
  • 23 0
 @connorgsmith3: ah. the hipster reverse jedi mind trick bike of choice.
  • 30 0
 @connorgsmith3: It's looped around from being too mainstream to be cool to being dismissed because it's too mainstream, to now being cool because it's been dismissed by the cool people. So weird.
  • 2 21
flag sanchofula (Apr 11, 2024 at 13:48) (Below Threshold)
 Said no one ever.

Seriously, who'd buy a Giant? Maybe as an alternative to the Big T or S...
  • 4 0
 That raw alu looks slick. Most interesting giant in a long time, to me.
  • 4 13
flag sfarnum (Apr 11, 2024 at 17:02) (Below Threshold)
 @connorgsmith3: If you’re riding a Giant I assume:

A. You’re new to the sport and that’s what they had at the bike shop, in which case you deserve a pass.

B. You prefer slightly conservative geometry and know a good deal when you see one, which I can respect.
  • 8 0
 @sfarnum: It's really not that conservative of geometry for a trail bike at all, pretty progressive actually.
  • 3 1
 @Ousqa: More of a general trend for the brand than a description of this bike in particular.
  • 4 0
 @sfarnum: with this and the new reign and glory I don’t think conservative geometry is a trend for the brand anymore.
  • 6 0
 Giants been killing it. Paint jobs have gotten so much better and their gravel bike looks legit too.
  • 2 0
 @bmied31: revolts are fantastic bikes!
  • 4 0
 @bmied31: no cable tourism, well thought out spec on low end, and no pretending to be a boutique brand (with attendant price) when your bikes are made in the same factory as everyone else's.
  • 3 0
 @bmied31: someone else mentioned a lifetime frame warranty as well, what's not to like?
  • 4 0
 @alexhyland: I'd give giant the factory part as I think it's their factory, too, so I can only assume QC is easier to manage.
  • 2 0
 @jesse-effing-edwards: yeah I did think that, but the sentence was getting too long, too many parentheses etc...
  • 68 1
 All the bike the majority here needs. Solid spec,good looks,great weight,decent pricing,no cable speleology.
  • 18 1
 Yup, I admit, I had to google this one.
  • 12 1
 It is a nice looking bike, however, despite there being 8 models to choose from, it seems like there’s a hole in the lineup. T-type seems to be really driving up price points (as new tech does, no complaint there). I would like to see something between the advanced 1 and 2, with performance elite, m8120, and mechanical gx. It would probably squeeze into that 7k price mark between 1 and 2 and be a more sensible option for a lot of riders.
  • 3 2
 @gmiller720: Buy a bike with GX transmission, sell kit for $1400 (I've never had so many people wanting to buy something) buy GX groupset from TBS for $556, add crank of your choice. Or your local bike shop
www.tbsbikeparts.com/product/sram-gx-eagle-1x12-upgrade-kit

TBS usually has full GX (including crank) for $700

pocket extra money
  • 2 0
 @onawalk: plus there is always a gx group set on marketplace. It’s the easiest group to buy for cheap.
  • 54 0
 How about a trance X SX with an X2 and 36 gripX2 in size XS set up MX please
  • 3 24
flag PhillipJ (Apr 11, 2024 at 1:39) (Below Threshold)
 Buy a 2020 Reign 29 and put a 27.5" wheel on it.
  • 11 0
 @PhillipJ: xxxxxxxx
  • 6 0
 Still getting rid of overstock. New altitude doesn't have it either. Like the podcast said, they were probably all built last year while more stock sold for another year
  • 4 0
 Please add a dropper from Trans X to my Trance X.
  • 37 1
 My alloy 2021 Trance X frame cracked near the bottom bracket after lots of use and abuse. Any bike can and will break. Fortunately, the bike has a lifetime frame warranty. I took the bike to my dealer and had a new frame in 1.5 weeks, no questions asked.
  • 1 0
 do you like Shawn Colvin?
  • 15 1
 Downtube protection like it should be on every mountain bike, kudos to Giant!
  • 4 27
flag opignonlibre (Apr 11, 2024 at 2:25) (Below Threshold)
 Shouldn't a mountain bike have a downtube able to withstand the abuse instead of a protection?
  • 4 1
 @opignonlibre: shouldn’t tailgate pads be a complete protective bubble (like that massive hypercar storage bubble) it would solve all the problems
  • 3 9
flag wyorider (Apr 11, 2024 at 7:49) (Below Threshold)
 My last Giant was a Reign-and a rock flicked up off the front tire shattered the down tube-right through the padded frame protector. And then, no warranty. Giants these days are lighter than other brands, but at a cost. If you rode where there are rocks, no bueno.
  • 4 1
 @Grady-Harris: I don't know I am riding to the trail
  • 2 1
 Preach! A carbon bike is never going to fail from continued stress from years of riding, but WILL fail from a loose babyhead rock striking the frame directly.
  • 9 0
 Got the existing Trance X 29 (2). Best bike I ever owned, nimble, stable and great all-rounder. Never had an issue with the PF92 BB, and bike has been super reliable. Had a crank arm fall off when new, was deemed to be a fault but due to Covid delays etc no SLX cranks available so Giant warranted XT instead. Been bullet-proof since. Top bike for the money, don't really care if it's not a 'cool' brand. Geometry is 'just right' too.
  • 3 0
 Same. Had the ‘21 X Advanced 1 the last three seasons. I’ve ridden a shit ton of bikes over thirty years and it’s been the best overall. Like a dummy, I just sold it thinking I’d get this new one. While the new brings a bit to the party, it’s minimal gains.
  • 9 0
 No headset cable routing, progressive geometry with flip chips and adjustable reach, additional top tube mounts, internal frame storage in both carbon AND alloy frames, great down tube protection, mullet option with increased suspension travel….

Yet it will be overlooked because it’s a Giant and doesn’t have that “bro” factor.
  • 2 0
 And it has an adjustable height dropper post which was not mentioned.
  • 3 9
flag PhatBrett (Apr 12, 2024 at 6:04) (Below Threshold)
 People that complain about internal headset routing don't know how to build/maintain bikes
  • 2 0
 Great price, well thought out spec across the range, apparently lifetime frame warranty...
  • 10 0
 Both of the geometry charts are the same even tho they are listed as: "The geometry for the 29" Trance X." and "And the mixed-wheeled SX."
  • 2 0
 Also doesn’t match up with the numbers in the article.
  • 1 0
 @blackthorne: yep, HA is all messed up.
  • 11 0
 Whoopsy. My bad. That's updated now. Thanks
  • 6 0
 Love my '23 Trance X. (Adv. Pro 2). Naming convention is stupid but simple once you figure it out.

Other than that, nothing but positive things to say about the bike after ~ 9 months and 2k miles on her.
  • 2 0
 Agreed, they should definitely rename one of the Trance models to something else. Last I checked, they have the old 27.5 Trance, the 27.5 X, the Trance 29 120mm, and the Trance X 29. That's honestly way too many 'Trances' and it must be super confusing to new prospective buyers.
  • 1 0
 @Glory831Guy: For 2024 the USA lineup is -

Trance 29 120/130 and Trance Advanced 29 120/130

Trance X 29 140/150 and Trance X Advanced 29 140/150

Trance X Advanced SX 145/160 with mixed wheel
  • 5 0
 Just had a look at the Giant website to see the whole lineup. A HUGE WIN compared to the previous model: They got rid of the ugly toptube bend in the ALU models, looks soooo much better. And the paint job on the carbon frameset is a killer!
  • 6 0
 I was going to say the same thing. They did not highlight the new Alloy frames here. The new straight toptube and raw finish on the X 1 looks fantastic. Giant Alloy frames have always been great, however they are mostly available in lower spec builds in the U.S. unfortunately.
  • 1 0
 Looks like it was edited and added now
  • 5 0
 That raw alloy version is hot, and probably nearly 2lbs lighter than the Jibb V2 frame.
  • 2 0
 @OzarkBike: I would be looking at that X1 alloy and start upgrading parts...
  • 2 0
 I need to see what a size small aluminum frame looks like. I hate how some frames in size small have a weird bend somewhere on the top tube (like small Ripmo af, or the old Druid V1).
  • 1 0
 @Gbrlrox: I would assume it is straight. Liv just released the Intrigue models and they do not have any weird bends.
  • 3 0
 It's crying out for a "0" spec, some better specified alloy model that isn't begging for a bunch of upgrades out of the box.
  • 3 0
 @boozed: it would be sweet to see an 0 level alloy bike... But, the industry has spent too many years telling us we need to have carbon bikes...
  • 7 0
 Has anyone seen the XC team bike they just announced, holy shit it looks nice
  • 3 0
 Where have you seen?
  • 3 0
 @HumpDiesel: Saw it on FB, now they've updated the team site: www.giant-bicycles.com/ie/teams-and-riders/giant-factory-off-road-team/3 and it's on Instagram
  • 3 0
 I always liked the feel of maestro suspension, depending on the model it usually had a good anti-squat feel but quite pedaling independent bump absorption at the same time. However here the Anti-Squat chart does not mention the gear it is for.
  • 3 0
 My 2019 Trance 2 is the best bike I have owned outdoing all my Santa Cruz, Ibis and GTs I have owned and loved. This aluminium bike rides like a trail bike and I have to stay as a Jamaican rental bike for tours I never had a single complaint in 50 plus tours on it.
I am buying this new aluminum version of the Trance X in Shimano SLX and the Fox fork I ADORE.

Big ups to Giant for adding storage, straps, etc in the usual light weight/burly balance and beauty. My old grey/lime green will be hard to outdo.
  • 3 0
 big up dem whole island
  • 3 2
 Got the current Version Trance X in Aluminium. I love it! Its nimble and quite capable. Wanted a Bike to have fun in every trail and Not a Plowmachine that only comes alive in full Speed rockgardens. Nevertheless i prefer it with a coil shock cause i just the feel of them. The increase in travel and the slacker HA of the new version makes sense to me. I dont care about the reach adjust and integrated bars. The current version allready has 2 Pos geoadjust flip chip wich enables mullet in high and full 29 in slack mode with same consistent Geo. Personally i would have been happy with slacker HA and more RearWheel travel for the new model. But i would definetly Testride the new SX.
  • 2 0
 I had a 2016 and it was a fantastic bike. It had a small frame crack after a couple of years, and they replaced it under warranty right away. I also loved their carbon wheels. fairly light and bomb proof.
  • 2 0
 Owned a Giant Trance Advanced 27.5 when it first came out. Great Bike. IMO Giant is a very under valued MTB in North America. Think is primarily due to their lack of marketing via social channels with sponsored riders.
  • 2 0
 I have a couple year old Trance Advanced Pro 1.. Other than than a little slack on the STA, it can hold it's own with the downcountry bikes.. The Trance X has been on my want to try list for a while now...
  • 2 1
 In what world does a one-piece stem-handlebar save 200g (nearly 1/2lbs)? A 35mm stem is in the neighborhood of 130g... so you're saying a one-piece combo is 70g lighter than a handlebar alone? Not even factoring in the weight of those silly shims, or the need for more steerer and spacers because you can't get the bar height you want?
  • 3 0
 I would actually consider riding a giant now days. They used to look terrible but the frame looks are starting to come around.
  • 2 0
 Love my Giant Trance x29 1... Panther green, upgraded wheels to xm1700 wheel and xtr brakes, chainset, cassette, mech, shifter.... Love the bike!
  • 4 0
 The geometry charts are the same.
  • 1 1
 Nice bike. "The seat tube angles see a similar difference between the two models, at 77.5 and 76.3 respectively,"

I must not be reading right yet, this morning. For the L sizes in the mid setting, I'm seeing 76.0 and 76.0 for these values".
  • 5 0
 Best looking Trance yet
  • 1 0
 "With that in mind, let me introduce you to the Giant Trance X Advanced, the Trance X, the Trance X Advanced SX and, of course, the Trance X SX. While some of them might sound like a burlesque techno evening"

Love it Big Grin
  • 2 0
 Henry brings it like no one else.
  • 2 0
 It is a good time to be in the trail bike market right now, between this, the RM Instinct, Switchblade, Revel Rascal, etc. Now I just need to decide which one.
  • 5 4
 I'd say go with the Guerilla Gravity or the Nukeproof for sure
  • 2 0
 The Maestro 3 system used on this bike features a flip chip, "but it's not there only there" to tune the angles of your bike. Wait ... what?
  • 2 0
 moderate geometry, decent trail travel, good adjustability... lets see if its an overall good value, good performing trail bike that Giant is know for.
  • 2 0
 I have a 2019 Trance 27.5. Excellent bike! Especially with a -2Deg HTA and overforked to 160mm (64.5HTA). This Trance looks like a home run!
  • 5 2
 Is this a trend now having no more XXL sizes or more than 500 reach?
  • 2 10
flag HeatedRotor FL (Apr 11, 2024 at 1:11) (Below Threshold)
 Larges are also losing reach, to much infact, many brands like Canyon/merida have figured out the rest of the bike and can make the most of the long reach.
Some brands are retreating back to lower reaches because they cant make bikes handle well - many brands like YT are offering a small large and a 'extra-large' to give people the choice.

Commencal are still struggling with Suspension design on a non DH bike so they are miles away still... Rubbish bikes.
  • 2 1
 Its because of increased stack. Geo isn't one number, and reach means nothing without stack.
  • 1 3
 @RonSauce: isn’t reach measured at the top of the head tube? So reach can only get less, which on this bike is already short.
  • 1 0
 Giant has never made XXL sizes. There are still plenty of big bikes out there for us tall guys. Reeb Cycles, Atherton, Raaw, Transition, etc all make proper XXL bikes. Santa Cruz claims they make XXLs but they're really XLs with a little more stack for the 6'2" guys that think they're tall.
  • 1 0
 @RonSauce: yes and no, You can gain stack without frame stack.
  • 2 1
 The URL shared for Giant is incorrect. This is the correct link to the global site but they don't have anything about this bike yet. www.giant-bicycles.com/global.
  • 2 0
 Link has been updated now.
  • 3 1
 Reach adjust headsets have to become standard on every bike. It only makes sense.
  • 1 3
 Except it doesn’t look good, especially in the short reach setting
  • 3 0
 quiteX confusing X namXing SX
  • 3 0
 the only thing that purple build is missing is some I9 wheels set
  • 2 0
 Insert 'whoah, nice bike!' soundbite from I Think You Should Leave here. Nice bike!
  • 1 0
 The link to their website is broken in the article, and I can't find any info about these bikes on their actual website. Is this bike even available yet?
  • 1 0
 I'm not a fan of the way the reach adjust headset look, especially in the shorter reach setting, it just makes the profile of the bike look a little silly
  • 2 0
 Pinkbike released this eaelier than they should?
no info at Giant websites, no mentions in other MTB media..
  • 2 3
 Does anyone ever buy Giant bikes because they like straight went for it? Too me this brand always was like "middle ground", "would buy if on super sale", or during COVID "nothing else is available". Like are they actually good bikes worth paying MSRP ( I know these days MSRP is almost not worth paying for any bike lol ) Big Grin
  • 13 0
 Yeah, people buy Giant bikes. They make bikes that are really good quality and sold at lower price than a similar spec bike made by, say, Trek.
  • 8 0
 They manufacture bikes for half of the brands you think are cool.
  • 4 0
 @sfarnum: I keep buying bikes with carbon frames and factory level suspension from brands that I think are cool. I know it’s stupid. I recently confirmed this on my holiday in Australia renting a Trance X with Fox Rhythm suspension. It was an absolute hoot!
  • 4 0
 @NorwegianBackcountry: My only bike is a Chromag, so I can’t lecture others about falling for the allure of good marketing.
  • 1 0
 @sfarnum: you got a list of brands?
  • 3 0
 Not all 140 mm trail bikes need Double Downs!
  • 5 7
 Good looking bike but unfortunately if you like fixing your own bike at home this isn't for you. In the UK Giant have a clause in their T&C saying that their bike's need to be serviced by a Giant Authorised dealer or you'll void the warranty.
  • 4 1
 Ooffff really?! That’s a bit a shit
  • 3 8
flag wyorider (Apr 11, 2024 at 8:00) (Below Threshold)
 They won't warranty the frame anyway.....
  • 2 1
 I work for a Giant shop in the US and have never heard of that.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a rad trail slayer, is that the model that had live wire a year or 2 back?
  • 2 0
 Is there going to be a Trance (not X) based on a similar frame ?
  • 2 0
 Wrong geo chart shown for Trance X 29"
  • 3 1
 pretty easy
advanced = carbon
SX = more travel
  • 1 1
 How exactly does a _headset_ spacer adjust _bar_ roll? Are they angled and the "stem" is not round internally so it can be pushed into alignment by the angled spacers?
  • 2 2
 There is also a stem insert that adjusts the angle along the steerer, and a slotted top-cap, along with the shown angled headset spacers. Excellent job leaving out important details.
  • 2 0
 Trance X . . . Trance X SX. Please follow this up with a Trance X 4X.
  • 2 0
 Storage box hype
  • 1 0
 RC very long for the smaller sizes
  • 2 0
 Nice!
  • 2 0
 What is "P&A TBC"?
  • 5 0
 Pricing and Availability to be confirmed
  • 2 0
 Very nice geometry!
  • 1 1
 Would like to see a comparison to the Gen 6 Trek Fuel EX. They seem very similar on paper and in looks
  • 1 0
 dearGiant, what's the frame w/ shock weigh? gracias!
  • 1 0
 Did I just watch a Giant commercial with a Norco commercial embeded in it?
  • 4 4
 Grip2 damper on the top end model...pfft already out of date
  • 4 4
 Oxford comma. Learn it, use it.
  • 3 1
 NEVER!!!
  • 2 3
 MT420 brakes...why?! They are horrible. They should have spent the extra $5 and spec'd MT520s which are awesome.
  • 1 1
 Because they want to to spend thousands more to get the package with better brakes.
  • 1 0
 Lr good; as not great.
  • 1 0
 looks like a Giant
  • 1 4
 Cables all over. No thank you. No hidden cables, no purchase here.
  • 2 5
 Seat Angle from back in 2018 - expected steeper
  • 4 1
 As chain stays have lengthened you really don't need super steep angle. I have a trance and a reign and there are no loop out issues climbing steep stuff like there were on some of my older bikes
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 Steep angles are a ploy from BigSeatTube, anyone who actually likes to ride their bike to somewhere understands that they’re unnecessary and can be problematic for those with long femur bones Razz
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 @Artikay13: i mean... my old trek slash was pretty slack but even on that if I slid the saddle all the way forward my knees would hurt
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