Nukeproof enters the insert arena with ARD (Advanced Rim Defense), a cruciform-shaped performance insert that is said to weight only 130 grams per wheel and cost around 50 British pounds (about $65 USD) for a pair. That alone should entice a lot of riders who have been shy about their cost and weight to give inserts a try.
Nukeproof says that the profile of the ARD liner looks like a happy monkey face for good reason. The "ears" spread out to protect against rim-pinch sidewall tears, while the center element provides a bump stop for the tire, which enhances the wheel's big-hit suspension performance. ARD inserts are made from a closed-cell foam of secret origin that won't absorb your tire sealant (It should be noted here that Flat Tire Defender and Cush Core are also closed-cell foam and also do not absorb fluid). Like most inserts, Nukeproof ships ARDs with special valve stems that allow air to freely pass by the foam.
Nukeproof ARD Inserts: • Available in 27.5″ or 29″
• Weighs 130g per wheel for 27.5″ version
• Offers puncture protection
• Offers impact absorption to defend against dented rims and smooth out the trail
• MSRP £50 (per pair, Inc x2 ARD valves)
• ARD will be available through all Nukeproof retailers in Mid November
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Nukeproof's ARD landing page Saving the best news for last, the ARD liner is intentionally slim at the bottom, where you need to tuck the tire beads underneath it. In addition, the liner itself is a loose fit around the rim until the tire is pressurized, after which (the PR says) it shrinks tightly over the tire and rim interface to secure the bead seats and prevent burping. Both design aspects are said to greatly ease the task of installing the tire. Nukeproof claims that the job can be done without the assistance of tire levers.
This is promising news for all-mountain and gravity riders, and we are looking forward to giving ARD a go as soon as we can get a pair. Nukeproof says the ARD inserts will be available mid November in both 27.5 and 29-inch sizes.
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I have Cushcore on my DH bike and I've been impressed with it, running pressures in the low 20's without noticeable tire squirm and no punctures in a season, also seems to damp the trail noticeably. I did burp once, probably had 10psi left after, I knew something was wrong but (stupidly) carried on riding hitting all the features on a jump trail. Put a small dint in my rim, the tire reinflated and sealed with a CO2 cartridge on the side of the trail and has been fine since. I wouldn't however fit them to my trail bike as if you get a tear that won't seal I'm not sure if you could fit a tube and ride out.
Also, I originally put them in my tyres when I cracked 2 carbon rims without puncturing, I think this is the main benefit of inner cores.
BS....just doesn't make sense. When the tyre is pressurised, this pressure is acting all the way around the cross section of the insert, compressing the cross-section so it is smaller, but no effect on the diameter of the insert, the insert won't cinch down on the rim/tyre.
If the ID of the insert was sealed so there were a pressure differential between OD and ID, maybe, but the insert is only going to take the same diameter pressurised inside the tyre as outside the tyre, all that is going to change is shape of the cross-section.
It'll just float around in the tyre like a huck Norris.
Looks a decent product but coming out with such rubbish puts me off buying it.
If you like to go scientific/mental about a press release/RC article, I'm happy to join .
That said, it makes sense to me though....
Rims, generally speaking are likely engineered around the idea of installing a tire (and sealant or a tube) and filling it with air. Structural integrity is developed based upon standard abuse and application, IE shots to the rim walls, etc, not the structure in between. If these products are applying force in a way that wasn't anticipated by the rim designers, I can see this being an issue. Makes me wonder, how long before wheel manufacturers modify the design accordingly, or issue a statement saying that use of inserts may void warranty?
Worse case if I absolutely destroyed the tyre I would roll home without air slowly as the foam is protecting my rim.
Pros: lighter, could run lower pressures (maybe?), no burping (TBC), could possibly run a lighter rim to save further weight.
Cons: cost, lose the damped feeling of stiffer sidewall, added complication, doesn't help with sidewall slashes. hmmm.
my tire failure mode has always been pinch flats. since I've run DD casing, I haven't had that issue. those tires were the first I've actually worn out since switching to tubeless over ten years ago. but I really wouldn't mind getting the rim and tire combo weight down. hmmm. I'm on a Flow EX right now (500g). If I went to an Arch MK3 (425g), I'd save a further 85g, bringing total weight saving to 120g. Not negligible on a wheel... hmmmm
Similar to how a low profile car or motorbike tyre is. Then I think there will be less punctures. Tyre weight may increase slightly but there has to be a compromise
As to the second question of yours it is the opposite. The insert makes for a smoother ride, how could it be otherwise? You lower the pressure by 2-3psi that is smoother directly (more if you drank the foremetioned kombucha and like burping) On impacts insert will conform to a great degree until you bottom it to the rim which will smoothen out the hit.
Unlike procore I can bet most inserts actually promote burping since when they get pushed from the side they will press against the inside of the tyre on the otherside increasing chance of burping. Like it happened when I had the huck norris. Meaning, you probably can’t really lower your pressure...
Hence, it may be that all inserts save procore and Dean Easy are no more but flat protection with drawbacks in other places. I cannot imagine running a foam that weighs as much as procore.
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Also can coat these inserts with NeverWet to keep the sealant from coating/sticking to the inserts.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrjXSsfxMQ
Would be interesting to test total air volume required to completely clot/seal a puncture with the top tubeless sealants such as Orange Seal and Stans then compare to what air volumes you have with the leading inserts.
So yeah, for me this isn't really an issue.
Now I may have to try but d’you think these Nukeproof inserts will offer a similar ride to Cushcore?
@optimumnotmaximum exactly the same back-ground than you, I tried single ply casing 4/5 years back before foam inserts and that was not my cup of tea. Considering that your front tire has very little effect on up-hill efficiency and massive impact on the way down I'm not willing to sacrifice that. On the other hand I could run a EXO at 3.0 bars at the back and be reasonably happy, on my enduro bike anyway. I find DD type casings are a good comprimise.
Another topic not many people talk about is the fact that often it's hard to find some good rubber on light tires. Personnaly I don't ride anything harder than 45a up front and no piece of foam will transform hard rubber into sticky rubber.
That shit works too, I’ve heard and felt my rim hit rock many times, no pinch flat, no wheel damage. On spendy carbon rims, riding rocky and fast, it’s a must.
So. I sent mail asking if this is normal and they said " it's normal. ARD is not designed to prevent burping. "
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Do I get more benefit/value out of a tire insert than boost spacing? Heck yes. Than 35mm handle bars? Heck yes. Than carbon wheels? Heck yes. Than a carbon frame? Heck yes. Than 12sp vs 11sp? Heck yes.
I think you get the idea I’m putting down.
Note: Still destroyed two rims with Huck Norris, they don't work so well.
Save your cash. You´ll need it for the next fad.
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£3.50 equivalent. Chop length ways down the middle and wang it in the tyre. Easy and cheap, does the same job.
How many people actually need these?
Unless you are a good level racer – blowing your tires means you don't know how to ride.
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and probably on Garry Fisher AL1...
GBP buddy, not a USD....
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