First Look: BMC Fourstroke AMP LT - Downcountry Motorized

Oct 14, 2022 at 15:35
by Matt Beer  

If the BMC Fourstroke name looks familiar, but the suspension layout doesn’t, that’s because the Swiss brand has totally revised their cross country and marathon platform, and in case you didn’t notice, they’ve also added a TQ-HPR50 motor to the system, hence the AMP suffix on the model name.

The 120 mm travel Fourstroke LT AMP frame design houses the same visually undetectable and nearly silent TQ motor that Trek uses in their Fuel EX-e that we tested back in July.

Essential Details
• Carbon fiber front & rear triangles
• APS dual-link suspension design
• 120mm front and rear travel
• TQ HPR50 drive, 360 Wh battery
• 66.5° head tube angle
• 77° seat tube angle
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Pricing: $7,299 - $14,999 USD / €6,899 - €13,999
bmc-switzerland.com

Not wanting to limit the hydration capacities on the bike despite the 360 Wh battery in the downtube, BMC rearranged the orientation of the shock on the dual-link carbon fiber frame to hold two water bottle inside the front triangle, while nestling an integrated display into the top tube and ditching the integrated dropper used on the unassisted version of the Fourstroke.

The Swiss aren’t known for creating affordable products, but they are known for their high standards. BMC offers four models in the range beginning at $7,200 USD and climbs to a price that will leave a hole in your bank account - $14,999 USD. The bike will be delivered in Europe first, starting in December 2022 with the highest priced model. A few months later, they will be available in the USA. From there, the pattern will continue as the less expensive models trickle in.





Frame and Motor Details


Straight, sharp lines make for a clean outline on the Fourstroke AMP LT with no sign of a battery or motor visible from the side view. If you take a top-down view of the frame though, you'll see the integrated TQ display screen and likely pick up on the charge port at the top of the downtube, safely tucked out of harm's way. In the theme of creating clean lines, BMC has routed the rear brake line, and other necessary cables on the three lower-priced models, through a port on the side of the headtube.

In order to fit wider variety of seat posts, BMC moved away from the integrated and proprietary fit of the their in-house, oval-shaped dropper post that the standard Fourstroke features. By using a 31.6mm seat tube, consumers can run with the stock post or choose from an assortment of options on the market.

As for the motor, the system is identical to the HPR50 unit that so easily snuck past unsuspecting trail users during out previous test. In total, the assistance from the mechanical system weighs only 3.9 kg and produces 50 Nm of torque. All of the modifications to power output, controls, and visuals will be accessible via the TQ Motor app.

Suspension Design


Judging by the lines of the Fourstroke AMP LT and the short, upper rocker link, you might wager that this frame could have been subject to a flexstay pivot, but BMC stuck to their kinematic objectives which were only achievable by using the APS dual link configuration. BMC states that the new kinematics decrease the anti-squat to reduce chain growth and pedal kickback deeper in the stroke. At the same time, they've added more progression to increase small bump sensitivity and more support towards the end of the travel.


Geometry


Although this lightweight, marathon-style eMTB is built with similar components that you’d see on the XC World Cup circuit, it does receive a steep 77-degree seat tube and marginally slacker 66.5-degree head tube angle. The four sizes have smaller gaps between each reach number, starting at 437 and jumping up roughly 20mm per frame size, however, the chainstay lengths remain at 435 across the board.

Specs


The Fourstroke AMP LT LTD is complete with Fox Factory suspension, including a 34 StepCast fork, and carbon DT Swiss XRC 1200 wheels, leaving little to be desired on the $14,999 top-end package that also includes full matching purple paint to the wireless oil slick SRAM XX1 AXS components. Dropping down the pricing ladder, the suspension on the AMP LT ONE moves over to RockShox, with a SID and Super Deluxe Air in the Ultimate trim, and alloy DT Swiss wheels, but keeps the SRAM G2 RSC brakes with 180mm rotors at each end.

From there on out, the two lower price points of the Fourstroke AMP LT TWO and THREE continue with RockShox suspension, but shifting and braking duties are covered by Shimano. Throughout the range, Maxxis Rekon 2.4" EXO tires are the choice for rubber and Praxis takes care of the cranks with alloy options.

BMC Fourstroke AMP LT LTD - $14,999
BMC Fourstroke AMP LT ONE - $10,999

BMC Fourstroke AMP LT TWO - $8,999
BMC Fourstroke AMP LT THREE - $7,299







179 Comments

  • 151 1
 Someone's about to steal all the KOM's with this thing while talking about how hard they train.
  • 27 13
 ... while complaining how others are cheating by using pedal assist...
  • 14 14
 People stealing KOM's on e-bikes has been going on for a while now. And what of the guys that are snagging KOM's while using performance enhancing drugs, that has been going on for a while now too. There are even some retired Pro cyclists that have essentially made it their mission to re-take KOM's from known cheaters. Who is that Cookie guy that lives in LA and goes for one off KOM's , Phil Gaimon has made it (tongue in cheek) a goal to retake stolen KOM's.
  • 64 2
 any ebikes under 150mm are pointless.
  • 23 5
 @radiusofone: Kom hunters are lame, the more people who shatter their faux dreams the better. Just f*cking ride.
  • 6 0
 @radiusofone: so cheaters cheating the cheaters?
  • 27 0
 Im doping and on an ebike, and maybe you cant understand but its not all that great. More KOMs, more problems. Its like people dont get it. Cheaters have feelings too bro. For real.
  • 12 5
 @radiusofone: yeah but drugz r cool and ebikes aren't.
  • 14 13
 @mininhi: any ebike is pointless
  • 5 1
 Meh, do we really even care about KOM's anymore?
  • 8 0
 @radiusofone: KOM's / strava doesn't have any anti doping rules, so that's not cheating; using an ebike to snag non ebike segments is for sure cheating.
  • 4 11
flag vinay (Oct 16, 2022 at 12:22) (Below Threshold)
 It seems people care a lot about this strava competition. As an outsider, I find it hard to comprehend. How serious is this thing? Like comparable to a regional competition, national competition, world level even? And do UCI regulation apply too, like that until a few years ago it wasn't allowed to ride with different diameter wheels front and rear (which still isn't allowed in XC)? And how are trail conditions taken into account? There is so much that affects lap times, I wonder how strava competitors manage to compare their runs or that it just isn't important enough to be so very strict about it.
  • 12 9
 #f*ckstrava
  • 15 0
 @vinay: It's just a fun way to track your own progress and to roughly compare your speed to other riders. It isn't that deep or serious
  • 6 0
 @Greasybrisket: exactly. Mostly use it to track my progress but also another way to have some friendly competition now that I can’t ride and race with my friends as much due to work/life/kids etc.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: it's the same as FKTs on the running side. If you're hunting for the KOMs / FKT / ITT record, the trail condition & weather condition is part of the equation.
  • 1 0
 @radiusofone: every pedally dh and every climb in Santa Cruz is full ebike on the leaderboards
  • 1 0
 @Greasybrisket: If it isn't, why all the stress?

@dancedancedanny : Alright, but who decides what's part of the equation and what is not? Could one set a KOM on a mullet DH bike before mullet DH bikes were allowed at the UCI?
  • 4 4
 How much does it pay when you earn a KOM? Help with sponsors?

If people really wanted to be a King of the Mountain they would race for real, not this digital fake racing for self esteem boost buffoonery.
  • 74 1
 I can see the benefit of an e bike for Enduro and downhill riders who want to get more laps on downhill tracks and don't care much about the climbs, which may just be fire roads. But xc/trail bike rides aren't typically like that, it's more about rolling terrain where the whole ride is part of the fun.

I guess I understand an e bike for the winch and plummet crowd as a self shuttle, but I just don't get it for the xc folks.
  • 52 6
 90% of e-bike riders I see on the trails are on 160mm plus machines yet only seem to ride blue trails. This sort of bike is what they actually need rather than what they think they need.

JP
  • 22 13
 Believe it or not, being able to go faster on flatter terrain is fun too. Lots of xc stuff i've ridden has short but punchy climbs littered throughout, and some areas only provide xc so going to longer travel make no sense. For the sake of trail wear and tear i wish they never became a thing (despite owning one and loving it) but no one i know has ever ridden an ebike and thought it wasn't fun.
  • 11 3
 @Jprestidge: I agree. Although those folks probably got an ebike because lugging a heavy enduro bike with dhfs on that same blue trail was hard and slow and boring. Perhaps if they had gotten the non motorized version of this bike with fast rolling trail tires to ride the undulating blue flow trail, they would have never needed the e bike? Idk
  • 13 4
 Somehow I suspect that the XC/DC segment of e-bikes is going to be the leading segment. We assume people want e-bikes for climbing assistance in place of a shuttle or lift, thus the bikes should have EN/DH travel and geo.

XC/DC is the largest segment, most local trail systems particularly sanctioned systems hardly require more than 120/130mm bikes. All the Strava chasers will gobble XC/DC e-bikes up! They want their name at the top of those leader boards. Most “mature” (i.e. financially capable) riders are not riding EN/DH trails anymore. I think manufacturers see where the largest pool of money is, and they are taking aim.
  • 2 0
 @Jprestidge: just like non E bikers then?
  • 3 0
 @Jprestidge: Exactly, there are a ton of old folks who go into a store and buy the flashest E bike they see, which is a big enduro rig, then ride it on the road and the cycle trails between vinyards. So this option is great for them, plus its great for someone wanting to ride to a hunting or fishing spot.
  • 2 0
 @Baller7756: this is weird to me as how many times do you see TONS of people overbiked for those same XC trial…maybe 50%???

Why wouldn’t they just stay overbiked when a battery is added? They’ll be double-overbiked!
  • 3 1
 This morning I rode at an event with 1200m+ and 45km, I saw about 30% of ebikes.
More than half of those were over-e-biked with 160mm full suss, the rest on cheaper models, so hardtails.
This BMC would have been the "perfect ebike" for those.

I am amazed by how much money people have... Many of those riders were so unfit that they hardly ride, but yet they cash out 6000€ for something they'll use 3h/month...

Counter argument to using ebikes only for DH laps because "in XC you're supposed to enjoy the climbing too" : it just a lot of fun to go fast uphill. Also, lots of people like the effort that goes with biking, but don't like the "trying to survive breathing" type of effort, I think everyone here who rides enduro format can understand that
  • 6 3
 @lostlunchbox:
I’ve ridden plenty of ebikes and still have zero interest
  • 8 0
 More evidence that we are in the Paleozoic Era of ebikes… the diversity of forms is flourishing… but most are not destined to survive.
  • 3 0
 Yeah, I agree. I really have nothing against eBikes, but a battery kind of takes the “country” out of down-country.
  • 1 0
 @smartyiak: I hear you. I think the size, weight, and maneuverability would be a big factor in choosing a DC e-bike over an EN e-bike.
  • 3 0
 @Jprestidge: With electric, I budget in 30-40mm of 'safety margin' because I suck at bikes and there's really not much of a downside to additional travel with e-assist.
  • 2 0
 @sngltrkmnd: sounds like crypto currencies ....
  • 2 0
 @Jprestidge: bro did you really just sign off your own pinkbike comment
  • 1 0
 @Uuno: follow up point, if you have a motor, you might as well have all the travel too.
  • 1 1
 winch and plummet: great phrase
  • 34 3
 Just to continue abusing this equine corpse... That's over $11, 000 Canadian for the "entry level" model after tax and over $23, 000 for the top teir! Not cool mtb! Not that it really matters considering the Canadian government makes it prohibitive to get anything into country anyways.
  • 55 11
 To be fair. if you want an "entry level" e-MTB then anything from BMC, Pivot, Santa Cruz, etc. probably shouldn't be on your list. I generally don't go to the Mercedez dealership and look for an "entry level" SUV.
  • 3 1
 Ml350 is pretty entry level. @yupstate:
  • 13 2
 @yupstate: Problem is the offerings from specialized, trek, giant etc aren't meaningfully cheaper. When every brand has "luxury pricing" the analogy doesn't really hold.
  • 5 0
 @lostlunchbox: Trek and Specialized have very few "budget" options these days. If you want Budget bikes these days it's either used market, Commencal, Giant, YT, Polygon, or Haibike and Yamaha since we're talking E bikes.
  • 5 0
 @lostlunchbox:

BMC Fourstroke AMP LT THREE - $7,299
Giant Trance X E+ 3 - $5,999
Commencal Meta Power TR Ride-$5,800
Yamaha YDX Moro $4,499
Yt Decoy Comp $4,999
Haibike AllMTN 2 4,499 Euro
  • 2 3
 @lostlunchbox They made is pretty difficult for me to get out of the country for a while...
  • 2 4
 @Glory831Guy: You compare a bike from a smaler swiss company with a german engine with big companys and direct to customer brands... stupid. You cant compare a volkswagen to a porsche and complain about the prices
  • 7 1
 @Zany2410: you can if they'd both make a 400hp family sedan. A Santa Cruz isn't that much different from a comparatively specced Giant.
  • 4 3
 A Kawasaki KLX 300: $5,599
  • 1 2
 @Mac1987: Just if they both a 400hp sedan its still a different build quality... so dont compare apples to pears
  • 2 0
 @lostlunchbox:
The Giant emtbs are actually substantially cheaper. They’re also hot garbage.
  • 2 0
 @notthatfast: I'm talking about the human-powered things we used to call mountainbikes
  • 1 1
 @Mac1987:
And I wasn’t talking to you Smile
  • 36 2
 Man, times have changed. I guess I still find riding fun under my own power, while many find it hard.
  • 21 1
 People are just lazier than ever full stop. Most want results with no effort for everything. At 52, some of the climbs I ride are getting harder, but I'll ride them until I'm physically unable before I consider an E bike. If I got one now I'd get zero sense of achievement.
  • 32 1
 This time it's a bike for dental surgeons
  • 19 0
 Just call it a dental-country bike.
  • 35 10
 OK, the price is absurd but I'm going to play devils advocate here on why this makes sense for me. I'm a 55yr old dude who rides twice a week, a 16 mile 2k during the week, and a 21 mile 3k on Saturday. I call it mountain biking, others will describe it as XC, trail or DC, and I do all of this on my SC Chameleon. I ride from my house and it takes 38-42 minutes of nothing but climbing to get to the top of our trail system and the choices are plenty from there. A bike like this would get me to the top in 15 minutes and I would have a lot more in the tank because of the little magic genie that lives in the BB. Now I could ride for maybe 28 miles in the same time period and I can see how that would be a lot of fun. I'm not delusional and don't for one minute want to imply that I would get the 'same workout in' because that simply wouldn't be true. I would simply get to ride even further and that makes it intriguing for me and my riding style.... but I have to give a big phuk off to BMC for the asking price for this moped/bicycle.
  • 4 2
 I’m with you on this. I squeeze short rides in between work and family time. Since I got the e-bike I ride more trails in the same time. I can motivate myself to go out for a short loop even if it rains or its cold or I feel not 100%. All in all it is a really positive experience.
And you can get a e-hardtail or e-trail for much less and be happy with it. If you can stand not being the fancier at the trailhead…
(I have a second hand meta power from 2019 and am super happy with this tank)
  • 2 0
 Exactly. I'm in my 40s, still love thrashing around the countryside without any assistance, but when my knees start to go I really don't want a 160mm beast bouncing around my non-alpine back yard. I'm sure these will get more affordable, and that devils advocate argument is totally legit.
  • 15 1
 15k€ now gives you a fox 34 StepCast and a tiny shock

Less is more, but the wrong way around
  • 6 0
 But it's got a small motor too!
  • 4 1
 Those e-bikes are getting harder to spot on the trail huh
  • 6 1
 If this was Santa Cruz, it would have X01 instead of XX1 and it’d have a regular reverb instead of an AXS dropper.
  • 7 1
 @Compositepro: …but the posers are not.
  • 1 0
 @nickfranko: nailed it!
  • 1 0
 @nickfranko: you mean GX
  • 17 3
 *enduro bro rage sweats commence.
  • 15 2
 So does it have a four-stroke motor?
  • 1 0
 More importantly, single or twin cam?
  • 2 0
 Na dudes. It must be 4 pole
  • 14 7
 20k for an XC bike that does the work for you and then descends like crap compared to a 3k enduro bike. Hard pass. I can understand big mount ebikes so you can get big elevation and then rip down on plush sled (self shuttling), but an xc weiner mobile that helps you with the only thing the bike was meant to do well??? This whole idea sucks. It's like taking a gravel bike to the bike park for lift access riding and no fun going down.
  • 15 4
 who is asking for these
  • 10 0
 Follow the money: The older western generations who own their homes and have final salary pensions have got the cars and holidays, so why not get the bike...

It'll be very interesting to see what happens now that interest rates are going - in the words of one of our own - To The Sky!!!
  • 9 21
flag Slapnutz (Oct 15, 2022 at 12:09) (Below Threshold)
 My wife who is trying to keep up with me on my acoustic bike.
  • 7 1
 @Slapnutz: Fairly certain the downvotes are only for 'acoustic'...
  • 7 0
 @DBone95: it is and justified
  • 1 2
 It’s ‘analog’.
  • 3 0
 @nateb: I really hope you're joking, but it's getting harder to tell on here these days.
  • 6 2
 @nateb: It's "bike"
  • 9 1
 For the money of the top tier BMC, you can buy a brand spanking new KTM 890 Adventure. Bike industry, what is up with these prices!!?
  • 1 0
 Would you lower prices, if people would pay more?? Consumers are indicating this is acceptable.
  • 8 2
 Nice to see TQ spread to new platforms. But XC ebike makes no sense. You'll see these zipping retired folks around golf course sidewalks across the country.
  • 2 0
 same as electric road bikes. but ive seen plenty and theres clearly a market for it
  • 8 1
 Down country is a dumb enough phrase on its own but combined with “e” it’s extra lame.
  • 1 1
 Hey man, I'm down with down country
  • 4 0
 I don't see a point of an XC ebike and I support ebikes. XC riders like to climb and if you are a rider that physically is unable to climb because of an injury or ailment, you would just get a trail/enduro ebike with more travel.
  • 3 0
 "In order to fit wider variety of seat posts, BMX moved away from the integrated and proprietary fit of the Eightpins dropper post that the standard Fourstroke features" I didn't know that bmx went from cycling discipline to downcountry-ebikes... oh how things change
  • 4 1
 Living near the Vosges and Black Forest, it’s full of 1000-1500m forested peaks without lift or road access and riddled with singletrack and on a lot of it a 130mm trail bike would be more suitable and fun than a full on enduro bruiser, this would get you up and over more trail after work than a normal bike. Maybe it’s a bit of a niche bike but I think atleast here it has purpose.
  • 1 0
 Sounds great!
  • 12 6
 Another tool designed to dumb down the sport of cycling.
  • 7 0
 Weight?
  • 2 0
 So close...but we all know as soon as we can buy e-bikes that nobody can tell are e-bikes? Well then, the real story begins. People buy e-bikes to be faster than other people period. If you don't believe that then just drive down the highway with your brain engaged and watch.
  • 5 0
 Wait, am I the only one missing the weight?‍♂️
  • 1 0
 Where is the Automatic Dropper?
I know it's probably impossible, as the tank for the post is in the downtube. However it would have been cool to see BMC's new automatic post included on this latest e-bike, maybe with the tank in the top tube?

Or maybe they can use the same power source for both, so a air powered dropper and an air motor for the pedals, that'd be extra efficient, and air ratchets sound cool.
  • 2 0
 This one got autoclimb
  • 1 0
 @auzb: LOL underrated comment
  • 3 2
 all these Ebike releases are disheartening to a regular mtb rider. I know that Ebikes are faster and easier on the climbs but I cant afford it and my local trails dont allow them. These ads make it hard to be happy with my normal bike. but whenever I ride it I forget all abt EBikes
  • 4 1
 Now if only it came with a manual to turn their Strava ride to an ebike ride. I can see the Strava ride titled just felt good that day.
  • 5 2
 Jesus Christ, the bike industry has gone retarded. Inflation at an all time high. Lets pump out a bunch of stupid light e-mtbs no one wants
  • 3 1
 Another ebike whos rider will be trying to get me to pull over so they can pass me by, even though they are not allowed on the trail system. Im not pulling over anymore..
  • 14 14
 why why why in the hell the bike industry is doing this? im looking down the barrel of two knee replacements and still thinking i dont need ebike or XC ebike. GL with all of this.
  • 6 5
 I'm just back in from 2 hrs shuttling on my cyc ebike conversion, knees/hips a bit sore and thats with me pulling a constant 500w on the climbs. Some of us just have achy pains after a days biking, a 400 wh battery and constant 50nm of power lets me still ride a bike rather than walk it. I totally get where this is coming from.
  • 8 1
 Wait until you've had the replacements and then lets talk about your position on e-bikes again Smile
  • 20 2
 Why not mate? If people want it, then yeah, give them ebikes. I seriously do not get why so many American mountain bikers get their knickers in a twist because of ebikes. In Europe no one gives a f*ck.
Apparently your country was built on freedom of choice, amendments and all that jazz, but when it comes to ebikes, soooo close minded! Live and let live, you do you and let others do what they want, maybe one day you will get it. To quote your very smart countryman: "the universe is under no obligation to make sense to you" Amen Brother.
  • 1 0
 @Dustfarter: If he wants to get better he'll definitely be the one doing the work.
And yes, I am speaking from experience.
  • 9 1
 @gooral: I agree with your overall concept. I think it has to do with the users responsibility to respect others and the regulations for specific trails. Where I live, most ebike users are just plain ignorant. Most do not have experience on a normal bicycle and their entry to the sport begins with this. It creates conflict on trails, bike paths, and roads.
  • 5 0
 @Chondog94: We also have in Scotland some people who never mountain biked and would never ride if not for eebs. But not all or most. I think it is psychological, you tend to remember dicks, not all the nice people, always remember 1 person who cut you up on motorway, not 100 who drove pass without causing any issues. Same with eebs, maybe it is not most? I earned my turns, been mounting biking for over 20 years, but cannot be arsed anymore with climbing and love being able to ride more, every day if I want and love eeb stability, got 2 btw, lightweight and full fat, as I have no kids, lifestyle choice I suppose.
The problem you seem to have is educational, if they do not know, how are they supposed to behave according to our norms? But also people are dicks, no doubt about that. You would not seat on someone's ass on the road in the car, it is rude, you should keep the distance, so why would you on the bike? I do think it has more to do with humans being humans, not eebs, I do despair for humanity sometimes...
  • 1 0
 because they think they can make money from it is the answer. Why people want a down country e-bike, there is probably a lot of reasons for that. From wanting to keep up with faster friends, because they hate climbing but want to ride around to the scenery sticking to mostly fire roads. probably a ton more reasons as well.

And sometimes people just have money to burn, like buying a $20,000 watch when a $10,000 is just a good and both are probably worse at telling the time than a $50 watch. Things don't have to make sense to all of us. The free market will sort it out in the end.
  • 2 0
 @gooral: spot on, Australians think the same way. Europe is miles ahead in terms of acceptance of most things.
  • 3 0
 5 bottle boss bolts = mind blown with choice
  • 3 0
 Ebikers don't need water. That is where they bolt the extended range battery option for 1k extra.
  • 5 3
 This is basically the ebike version of the fat bike hype a few years ago...
  • 1 0
 Fat bikes were a hype? Crap … my trade in will only cover 5% of this bike. . . At least I can get uphill faster on my trainer when I can’t ride outside for a few months.
  • 3 0
 Always wondered how Pidcock did it, and now we know!
  • 3 0
 Beautiful execution, but I still don't get it.
  • 6 3
 Honda motocross are cheaper
  • 4 0
 I just bought three brand new 2023 Honda trail bikes (50/125/250 for kids and I) for less than the top tier spec. Not apples to apples obviously, but we’re having a blast on motos and still enjoying our mtbs.
  • 3 0
 Another one?? Really?? Downcountry ebikes are such a bad idea.
  • 6 4
 stop, one electric downcountry bike was enough
  • 2 3
 Awesome. Now there's more companies launching these we shouldn't have to wait too long for a race series. I wonder if the UCI will split the World Champs DH prize pot even further to fund prizes for another ebike category?
  • 8 7
 I get that europeans like their e bikes but a "downcountry" ebike is a bit missing the point of the DC bike no?
  • 6 3
 Sad
  • 2 0
 No headset cable routing so there is that..
  • 1 0
 In the theme of creating clean lines, BMC has routed the rear brake line, and other necessary cables on the three lower-priced models, through the headset cap. Damn they did it!
  • 4 2
 I will ride this and beat Nino.
  • 9 9
 And really that’s it - isn’t it? The idea that YOU are doing it, when in reality you can’t do it without your e-helper. Poser.
  • 8 14
flag mcozzy (Oct 15, 2022 at 11:04) (Below Threshold)
 I'll ride it and beat everyone. See ya later losers on your museum bikes.
  • 3 6
 @mcozzy: museum bikes. I'm using this from now on.
  • 2 0
 nice looking bikes...way out of my range..
  • 2 0
 You will run out of juice before you run out of water.
  • 5 4
 Am I the only one in here who just can't get amped up for these downcountry Ebikes?
  • 2 2
 Really like this ebike light mood You have to push, 50nm, is not a full power bike like 90nm engines.... that push like a motorbike!
  • 5 4
 What's it with all these XC e-bikes? They make even less than regular e-bikes.
  • 1 0
 Wtf is this for? Extremely weak legged people?? And no one round my areas using these robots to take KOMs. Is too steep.
  • 1 0
 How many Watterbottles can it hold?
  • 4 2
 Weight?
  • 4 2
 This is booolsheet.
  • 2 1
 I want this motor in my enduro bike
  • 1 1
 This ebike like most ebikes needs a more powerful motor and a gargantuan battery to make it even better.
  • 3 2
 Guess what? It's stupid, and i hate it.
  • 1 0
 All the shorttravel ebike stuff getting wornoutquickkkkk!
  • 1 0
 I can’t think of a bike I want less.
  • 1 0
 Is the ebike world coming out with a E-XC race or what?
  • 1 0
 I would like that bike, looks like a lot of fun.
  • 1 0
 You get bonus bragging rights every time you make an ebiker fall!
  • 4 5
 15k :-) Nice. I wonder how many of 15k bikes will they sell in a year? Maybe 1 or 2 to local dentist.
  • 3 0
 From what the lad sat our local trek dealer was saying they selll a fair few 15k rails first two to hit the shop floor not on preorder we’re gone the next day, I do hear a lot of people are chucking their pension in early and using the money while they can
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 The whole point of cross country is the suffering, no?
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 I don't want one but I very much enjoy the tearful blubbering of those too dim to use the ebike filter.
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 It's an ebike, don't be a dick about it
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 Two things I would never buy, a downcountry bike and a e-bike.
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