The RockShox Reverb has been around for nearly seven years, and is one of the most commonly spec'd dropper posts on the market. Although it underwent a significant revision last year to help improve its durability, there was one part that remained unchanged: the remote lever. That oddly shaped plunger stuck out like a sore thumb, especially considering the number of dropper posts with more ergonomically shaped levers that have hit the market over the last few years.
Reverb 1x Remote Details• Tooled speed adjust
• Bleeding Edge lever bleed fitting
• Claimed weight: 69.2 grams
• Reverb Stealth with 1x Remote: $399 USD
• Upgrade kit: $95 USD (remote, Bleeding Edge fitting, discrete clamp and MMX clamp)
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www.rockshox.com Not anymore. Meet the Reverb 1x remote. Available as an aftermarket upgrade for $95, the new remote can easily be retrofitted to existing Reverb posts (either version A2 or B1) and offers greatly improved ergonomics. The Reverb's return speed is still adjustable, although that's now accomplished by lifting a rubber dust cap on the remote and using a T25 Torx wrench rather than turning a dial.
InstallationGetting the Reverb 1x Remote installed is a fairly straightforward procedure, and it's not any more difficult than bleeding a 'standard' Reverb dropper post. In order to make the bleed process a little simpler, the remote now uses a Bleeding Edge fitting, similar to what's found on SRAM's Guide brakes. The fitting snaps into hexagon shaped receptacle on the remote, and the T-shaped portion is then rotated to open the port, allowing fluid to be moved in or out.
Part of the reason behind this design was to create a better seal in order to keep air from sneaking into the hydraulic fluid during a bleed, but for me, the fact that there's one less tiny screw to keep track of is the biggest advantage. In case you were wondering, the Reverb's Bleeding Edge fitting is a different size than the one for Guide brakes, which is a smart move, since the last thing you want is mineral oil in brakes that are designed for DOT fluid, or vice-versa – that would be like putting gasoline in your diesel engine.
Another one of the benefits of the new design is the fact that it's more crash-resistant. On the previous version, it didn't take much force for the barbed portion of the remote to snap, something that was easily fixable, but not out on the trail. The 1x Remote doesn't have that vulnerability, which should help it survive more than a few tumbles without rendering your dropper inoperable.
PerformanceFirst, the bad news: if you currently have a Reverb dropper post, once you try the new lever, it's almost certain that you're immediately going to want one. Sorry.
It's an instantly noticeable improvement, so much so that I found myself raising and lowering my seat more than I usually would on a ride, simply because it was that much easier. One of the bikes I'm in the process of reviewing has the 'standard' remote, and swapping back to that one from the new shifter-style remote made it glaringly obvious just how much better the revamped remote actually is.
The lever shape is instantly familiar, with a slightly concave paddle that's easy to find without taking your eyes off the trail ahead. The distance that the lever needs to be pushed to raise or lower the seat feels identical to the amount a shift lever would need to be depressed to move up to an easier gear, giving it a very natural feel.
Of course, there's also the fact that since the remote is hydraulically operated the action is especially smooth, and it's not affected by mud and grit, a boon for riders who regularly ride in nasty conditions.
I have about eight solid rides on the books with the new lever, which doesn't count as a long term review, but so far it's performed flawlessly. We'll see how the entire unit, the Reverb post plus the new remote, handles in the long run, but one thing is certain—the new lever is a very welcome update, one that keeps the Reverb right in the mix in a very competitive field.
I did the same and am not looking back. To be fair though, the hydraulic remote is a lot more complicated than the wolftooth cable actuated remote.
Seems like SRAMs taking advantage of everyone caught in their hole again.
Thanks
source: my 4 bikes with reverbs that never need servicing aside from being warrantied every year when the seals go. lol but never the lever!
You're lucky with those reverbs. Droppers are consistently the most unreliable component on a modern bike. The fact that a small percentage of people have zero problems doesn't mean that they're reliable.
Not sure where this discussion of mud is coming from either. How does mud get inside an entirely enclosed cable housing? Even when a little mud does enter the housing after dunking a bike in mud puddles it is still the last thing to go wrong with a dropper. Quite simply mud in the actuating cable is a make-believe problem.
Marketing: But we need to differentiate the product!
Product Manager: Ah ha, nobody has a hydraulic lever! Let's do that!
Engineer: Why would you want to do that? It's just going to be less reliable and performance will degrade between bleeds. But I guess it's job security as we'll have to keep redesigning it...
Marketing: My research says we can get OEM deals on this and few will care. We will flood the market and even if they suck, who cares the standards are really low in this segment. *pats self on back
Users on this thread have already mentioned the Transfer's reliability. See @gbcarmona's comment literally right above yours. I find that Pinkbike forums are great for learning about products. Really smart people here, and lots of data to work from.
Also, a good way to research before you buy is to read reviews. Pinkbike has already published (2) Transfer reviews. A stand-alone, and a shootout. Each review commented on the Transfer's reliability.
Using your head provides many benefits in life. I'd suggest doing that next time.
This means nothing... Pinkbike also claimed such doozy's, (dare I say Fake News) regarding the reverb like "With it's proven reliability and smooth operation the Reverb is head and shoulders above other options" Thanks Pinkbike.., I'm on my 3rd reverb...
For $314 (Kashima) + $65 remote it's well priced with a few of the other droppers on the market.
For $265 ( non kashima) + $65 remote it's an even better deal.
I guess what I'm trying to say is: sell the reverb if you own one and get yourself a FOX Transfer.
I've had 0 complaints so far
All droppers will have issues, especially if bikes are lifted up by the seat with the dropper post in the "down" position.
Only negatives are the cable pull is a little harder than my old LEV and the post drop and raise isn't quite as silky smooth (non- Kashima version).
That said the head does not develop creaks and play like the LEV did (multiple posts for me) and no play what so ever in the post. It just works and cost me half as much as a LEV or Reverb.
I used my stock Specialized remote and just bought a KS LEV cable barrel end and set screw to use at the lever and it works great. Could have bought the Transfer lever but already had the Spec one.
As soon as it gets close to 0 celcius mine stops working, it stays stuck in the high position most of the time. I got it serviced at fluid function, and it kept doing it from the very first ride I did when I got it back...
Listen, I ride all year round. So do many other mountain bike enthusiast. You may not and that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. However, for the many other riders who do ride in colder climates we want our components to work.
I highly suggest riding in the winter and in the snow....it's FUN.
We can lift our bikes by the seat and it ain't suppose to be bad. At least I didn't have any problem after 2 years...
As for riding in the snow, no doubt it's fun, but I shift my focus elsewhere in the winter just to take a mental break and keep riding fresh.
We both thought it was a defect or he was leaking oil or there was just too many bubbles. Come to find out later on that it was in fact the weather. He told me the next morning he tested it out in his garage and it worked like it should.
at 10 degrees I'd say from his experience can effect the overall performance. I don't understand this to this day though because wouldn't that effect the brakes as well?
None are without their faults, that's my point.
Unless it is a purely mechanical design, if one pulls up on the seat if the dropper is in the down position, there is a great potential for failure because of the design.
As far as the Fox Transfer, try to find a 9point8 at that price point, ain't gonna happen.
The upside to the 9point8 (aside from the great reviews about reliability) is the additional length options, which is nullified by my Patrol large size frame that can't even fit the full 150mm Transfer into the seat tube up to the collar.
The barb thingy snapped on two occasion in crashes (my fault). Yes, this part is clearly a weak part of the original design, but apart from that it has a faultless reliability. I did send it to the shop for a complete overhaul after 4 years of use, but that's it.
In comparison, my Fox fork and shock required much more love than that. Changing the lubrication oil on the fork a few times per year, damper oil change every year or two. Just this winter, it cost me 600$ in service for my fork and shock on this bike (new air spring assembly, new bladder, etc). I'd say the Reverb on the same bike has an amazing reliability in comparison.
Note: Yeah, I realize my story is anecdotic and many people got problems with their Reverbs. I just want to say that some reliable units do exist in the wild!
i run a reverb as well but come on. this has nothing to do with suspensions...
My point was that people may have unrealistic expectations. They seem to accept that suspensions require maintenance and breaks, but droppers should never be serviced.
But I get your point; So when will they make hydraulic shifters mainstream?
www.pinkbike.com/news/novyparts-rockshox-reverb-remote-review-2015.html
While my original Reverb (like right after they came out) was troublesome, when they finally replaced it with a new one, despite being out of warranty, the new one has been flawless for 3 years use. Southpaw remote is still better than plunger though. Not planning on spending $95 to upgrade the remote. Lifting them with the seat down messes them up though.
Is this review comparing it to the dedicated 'Left side' button, if so I can see where they are coming from.
The main issue of the old button to me is that it's slippery, but that's solved with grip tape...
At least they still fetch decent money on the used market.
I think if you get $200 for a take-off Reverb, you have done extremely well.
(I am a dealer of sorts).
Also, mine was an A1 that I got 2 weeks before the B2 came out, so i figured nobody would want the old, unreliable one, especially not for $200.
Honestly though, I don't feel like i'm getting better prices than any regular schmoe selling stuff in the same arenas. Could be I guess.
Im going to buy the KS Lev remote, purely out of spite once my original reverb remote snaps of.
Thanks for coming to your senses i guess!
Have had 2 Black collar Reverbs and got buddies onto them only one out of four had an issue and a bleed fixed his by a home mechcanic me vs a LbS that stuffed it up twice!
But SRAM is the new Shimano.
So I will be looking at the Fox Performance myself!
seriously , what is up with you guys, it's not hard to use the standard push button
Regarding the new lever, looks nice, but again I never really had any issues with the "rad" button. They are prone to damage if you run them atop the bars, but I've always ran them flipped over under the bar and found them perfectly ergonomic and comfortable to use.
I have a new Reverb on the way with my new rig an Evil Wreckoning. At the moment, only KS and Rock Shox make a 34.9 dropper post and I am not at all interested in the KS as tons of people I know have had issues with them. Evil will not honor their warranty if you employ a seat post shim so Reverb it is. That said the Fox Transfer is a fantastic post and here's to hoping we'll see it in a larger diameter soon.
Atleast treat existing Reverb owners with some sort of upgrade process, at like $40-45 USD if people want to choose to upgrade, but FFs I'd almost think it was an April Fools joke? !
+1
And I have no space for the new remote, I have a front shifter and no intention to go 1x, I like shifting in the front
I'm not pissed at the product, just that I will end up having two levers (one which will collect dust). By the sounds of it, other customers still like the old lever, so why waste materials, packaging, etc to have an extra lever sitting in my closet!
Let me buy the product spec'd the way I want to ride it and don't sell me stuff I'm not going to use.
This was a must a long time ago !!!!
um f*ck you too...
At 9point8
At XFusion
Ya ????
Actually I own 2. Once you learn there is no problem at all. Big advantage is that it is easy to take it from one to another bike and to store it in the trunk when your bike is attached to the car bike rack...