Prototype Wireless Electronic Drivetrain - Stellenbosch World Cup

Mar 7, 2018
by Mike Levy  
It's been a mostly open secret for a few years now that a mountain bike-specific version of SRAM's wireless 12-speed drivetrain has been in the works, but it's only been over the last week or so that we've seen the electronic setup being put to use in the wild. And not put to use by just anyone, mind you, but by this Swiss guy named Nino Schurter who has been winning essentially every race he's entered for a while now, from World Cups to World Champs to National Champs, and even the Olympics.




The World Cup cross-country season is kicking off in Stellenbosch, South Africa, this coming weekend and Nino's Scott has been fitted with a prototype wireless setup that was spotted by photographer Micahel Cerveny. That doesn't mean that Nino will be on it come race day, of course, as there have been rumors for awhile now that he could have used it at last year's World Championships. But, if Nino does roll out of the start chute with it on his bike and goes on to win, which you'd be silly to bet against given how his 2017 went, it'd be one hell of a racing debut for SRAM's electronic off-road drivetrain.

Below, you can see their road-specific eTap Red 11-speed derailleur, with its battery protruding off the back, much like the prototype that's shown on Cerveny's Instagram page. The eTap moniker has only ever been used for SRAM's road products, however, so expect the mountain bike system to fall under the BlackBox and Eagle umbrella instead.

SRAM eTap Red derailleur


I reached out to Tyler Morland, SRAM MTB Brand Manager, who had this to say: ''SRAM is constantly experimenting with new technology, and designing, building and testing new products. At this time, we cannot comment on photos, rumors or speculation.''

So SRAM clearly isn't ready to share any details yet, but there are a few obvious things to point out. First, it'll be 12-speed, of course, and we also don't expect the mountain bike version of the wireless shifter to look anything like SRAM's current paddle clickers because, well, it doesn't need to. Instead, I anticipate it being a much, much smaller collar-style shifter that, while still using paddles (or just one paddle), functions more like a switch than something that has to pull or release a cable. You don't exactly need to be a drivetrain surgeon to know that, though.

Interestingly, there were some photos floating around on Instagram that showed something very similar to that description, but those turned out to be shifty photoshops that tricked more than a few people.


Nino Schurter wireless SRAM Eagle Photo by Irmo Keizer

Nino Schurter wireless SRAM Eagle Photo by Irmo Keizer
Nino Schurter wireless SRAM Eagle Photo by Irmo Keizer


Above, you can get a better look at Nino's entire bike from Stellenbosch, including what appears to be some sort of computer extending far out in front of his handlebar. Is this simply the most ergonomic position for his computer, or is it related to his SRAM wireless drivetrain?


Nino s wireless shifter


Above is a screenshot by PB member @garneau565 that clearly shows the wireless shifter's shape, and it's most definitely not the collar-style clicker that some guy named Mike L. (that's too obvious, so let's call him M. Levy instead) predicted that it would be. Instead, it's mounted to the handlebar with what looks like a normal clamp, and it sits in very much the same place that you'd find a standard shifter.


253 Comments

  • + 276
 It uses a motor, it's now a motor bike, no longer a bicycle OMG OMG Ban ban ban
  • + 123
 BANHAMMER
  • + 106
 Shift happens
  • + 12
 I think the proper term would be ‘actuator’
  • + 96
 In related news Mike, why no news about Washington State officially banning ebikes on trails?
  • + 120
 @Thustlewhumber: Finally, some good news.
  • + 6
 @Thustlewhumber: Where's this news? Google's givin' me nothin'
  • + 20
 @sngltrkmnd:

It's a bit ugly with modifications, but here is the 2nd edition of the law, and what I am assuming went to the governors desk:
lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2017-18/Pdf/Bills/Senate%20Bills/6434-S.pdf
Section 5 subsection 9 spells it out pretty clearly.

This article is a bit more plain english and shows the classification of e-bikes.
www.seattlebikeblog.com/2018/02/28/clarified-e-assist-bicycle-rules-head-to-the-governors-desk

King County has apparently banned e-bikes on trails on their own. If the governor signs it into law, which he should considering the overwhelming numbers passing, then it will be a done deal.
  • + 7
 @sngltrkmnd: Here is a bit of information from the Evergreen Mountain Bike Alliance web site www.evergreenmtb.org/blog/ebike-legislation-passes-in-wa-senate-and-house
  • + 7
 Innovation is the worst.
  • + 3
 @Thustlewhumber: this is not good news. The people making these laws likely can't tell the difference between an e-bike and not, therefore when it comes time to police it, they will ban all bikes because it's cost effective.
  • - 10
flag Poulsbojohnny (Mar 7, 2018 at 20:44) (Below Threshold)
 @Duderz7: The point will be argued here for ever. Whether it is good news or bad news will likely never be agreed upon...

Oh, and thanks to whoever for negging me for merely posting links. Seriously?
  • + 21
 @Poulsbojohnny: bro dont make me neg prop you for being whiny about people neg propping you. Seriously?
  • + 2
 ...
  • + 2
 @AndyCr: creepy to think about what you are probably doing right now...legit comment...
  • + 3
 @pargolf8: haha. made me laugh. I don't mind being neg propped when I say something stupid or whatever. But for just posting links? someone has a burr up their behind when that happens.

Anyway, looking forward to an engaging discussion on the PB forums once the story hits the main page! Must get popcorn!
  • - 5
flag thunder-nuggets (Mar 7, 2018 at 22:58) (Below Threshold)
 ii have one thing to say about electronics on bikes.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ
  • + 13
 @Poulsbojohnny: I'd just like to use this opportunity to copyright the term e-legal. Thanks.
  • + 5
 @Thustlewhumber:

From my understanding from the links that were posted they have only banned Class 3 ebikes, Class 1 and 2 ebikes are still allowed on side walks and shared trails. Class 1 being pedal assist and are the ones that the manufacturers are pushing at the moment.
  • + 6
 Dont use your phone while riding it could have a vibration motor
  • + 0
 @Thustlewhumber: Saw a guy on an E-bike at Galby today...
  • + 3
 @Medacus: The article is pretty clear in saying one thing and the legal document is pretty clear in saying the other.

I think the writer of the article doesn't ride mountain bikes so didn't really pay attention to the part which says: " individual shall not operate an electric-assisted bicycle on a trail that is specifically designated as nonmotorized and that has a natural surface tread that is made by clearing and grading the native soil with no added surfacing materials."

No mention of classes of bicycle, just a blanket ban of all electric bikes on all true mountain bike trails.
  • + 1
 @I-want-your-bike: and you probably drive a truck with a ladder chassis! haha
  • + 0
 @Patrick9-32:

Having read another article, you are right, there is a ban on e-bikes riding on natural trails without the land owners permission. I'm guessing that that is also why legislation bill (SB 6434) has been passed by the Senate and the House, the Bill puts the e-bikes into classes which makes it easier for the land owner to make an informed decision.

The article also goes on to state that e-bikes are classed as bicycles, so long as long as its power output is no more than 750 watts, it has a saddle, includes fully operative pedals, and meets the criteria of the following classes:
Class 1: E-assist only while pedaling, with a maximum speed of 20 mph.
Class 2: Can be propelled solely by the motor, with a maximum speed of 20 mph.
Class 3: E-assist only while pedalling, with a maximum speed of 28 mph, and has a speedometer.

So yes, you are right, there is a ban but don't expect to see any less on the trails especially now when the Legislation states e-bikes in the above categories as bicycles!
  • - 3
 @Thustlewhumber:

Must be the Trump's bill.... Something so stupid can come just from his head...
  • + 0
 @I-want-your-bike: the US office was a steaming pile of saccharin-filled, watered down, derivative, uninspired, unfunny pig placentas. Just my 2c.
  • + 4
 @steel-or-die: actuator?? I hardly know'r!
  • + 8
 @Poulsbojohnny: I'm going to piss a lot of people off with this but...honestly I view banning emtb as a step backward and a big miss for the mountain bike world.
We should be striving to make our sport more mainstream because it's great for the personal rider and the world. This type of ban alienates the elderly, the disabled, and those who are physically unable to handle the demands of a normal mtb experience. In all honestly the type of attitude displayed by Pinkbike commentators and editors is backward and arrogantly ignorant of the larger possibilities these new technologies have to change the world and make riding more accessible to everyone.
That is all...
  • - 3
 @Nathan6209: mountain biking is not for everyone it is a pretty extreme sport in general.
  • + 1
 @properp: Bollox, there are many forms of mountain biking that are not extreme
  • + 3
 @properp: Chimes in from Florida, mecca of ‘extreme’ mountainless biking.
  • + 0
 @Poulsbojohnny: As in Poulsbo, WA? I live in silverdale. We should ride sometime. Going to ride PG this WE.
  • + 2
 @mikelevy: I took a screenshot of what the shifter looks like! Didn't know where to post it lol

www.pinkbike.com/photo/15675359
  • + 2
 @Nathan6209: I'm with you on this, not to mention of you were ever to get the majority of law makers to ever come out in the woods to see why they should endorse the mountain biking community as a whole, they're more likely to be convinced on an e bike. Beyond that e bikes are expensive, and people with money are quite often the same people with time to lobby for and promote mountain biking in law making venues, we should welcome E bikes and educate their riders just like we should every beginner and or Grom. What kind of mountain bikes do you think politicians would ride? And who makes the laws that govern trail access?
  • + 0
 @getschwifty: I saw someone riding one on Tuesday. Do you know what the "official" policy is on them? Are they allowed?

I have to admit I am pretty bummed. Thought the community was better than that here.
  • - 1
 @PNdubRider: I sure am upset about being here all winter. The only thing I can do is ride my bike in the beautiful sunshine or ride down the beach and look at the bikinis.. I sure wish I could just sit on the couch and look out the window and watch the snow. Also it's really great to pick up girls in the cold. It's just like Christmas you really never know what you're going to get under all those winter clothes till you get them home and get them unwrapped.
  • + 1
 I need to get some spandec Nutt huggers asap!
  • + 1
 @garneau565 @mikelevy I took a screenshot from Brad Copeland's Instagram story from yesterday and you can see it a little better.

www.pinkbike.com/photo/15676604
  • + 1
 @steel-or-die: Is the "actuator" 'motorized'?
  • + 1
 @Nathan6209: Is the e bike hatred just a North American thing. I seem to see more e bikes than not on uk trails now and I see Pivot only sell their shuttle in Europe. People keep telling me to get one. Think ill try but I think for me the point is to ride up yourself however I DONT HAVE MUCH OF A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE HAVING E ASSIST. hopefully THERE WILL BE MORE TRAILS POPPIN GUP IF MORE PEOPLE RIDE
  • + 2
 @Nick-Marotta: I don't know about other countries, but in America there are lots of trails where motorized vehicles are not allowed and mountain bikes are. And before anyone takes the time to understand what an e bike is they just panic and say no to e bikes.
  • + 76
 I'd ride with a wireless. It'd be expensive to replace but damn it would be nice to not have to adjust and futz with cables. Make it a removable battery with a decent life (keep one in the pocket just in case) and suddenly the fiddley cable system is gone. Sounds like heaven to me.
  • + 7
 Red eTap has removable batteries so I imagine this will too.
  • + 26
 Wait... you don't hate it? How can that be? That is ALL the comments are for, my unwanted options!
  • + 5
 After my first winter on the East Coast of the USA, with actual slop—I'd be really excited to not have cables.
  • + 66
 And super clean too. Just a hydraulic brake line front and back. Can't wait to tell my psychologist about potential improvements to my OCD
  • + 3
 @dwojo: totally
  • + 7
 After years of messing around with internal cables on modern frames, I think it is the best logical solution for modern mtb drivetrain. I'm not a fan of electronics neither enough wealthy to buy one myself, but it will make my job a lot easier.
  • + 6
 Just another solution for a non existing problem
  • + 12
 @Twowheelsjunkie: You can always ride your penny farting if you don't need progress...
  • + 12
 @Twowheelsjunkie: The same could be said for mountain bikes. After all, horses do the job just fine.
  • - 10
flag properp (Mar 7, 2018 at 16:57) (Below Threshold)
 I do believe this makes sense because it is precise. It remove some of the rider error out of the equation like when you shift the gear and forget to remove your thumb pressure off your shift lever. I watch Riders do this all the time. Get your shift together guys.
  • + 2
 @High-Life: do you get slop inside your cable ???
  • + 7
 @Twowheelsjunkie: fact! I've never had issues except when it's user error or I ripped the derailleur off. Same would apply to this piece of gimmick marketing
  • - 1
 @b-wicked: better practice your software skills, cuz this shiz is gonna need an update.
  • + 3
 Im in. I like it.
  • + 1
 You said everything in one sentense@Twowheelsjunkie:
  • + 3
 I have to run a rear hose, what difference does one more cable make?

Especially if it means I don't have to have a heavier, $650 derailleur hanging off the back of the bike.
  • + 6
 Futz with cables? You got one shifter to a rear mech and probably a dropper. What else? Yeah shi* is getting hyper crazy bro
  • + 5
 @pargolf8:
one cable less is just better

i loved how my hardtail only had rear break hose as i used to run single speed. it looked sooo clean and it was less stuff to ever worry about
  • + 3
 @Asmodai: I never ever worry about my derailleur cable.

I put some lube around the ferrule ends twice a year and it works perfect.
  • + 3
 Oh yes, everything clean
  • + 1
 @jclnv: sure but you had to lube it, also routing cables on some internal frames is annoying af

its a small thing but just nice to have
  • + 6
 @Asmodai: changing a steel cable for some microchips, batteries, motor and wireless communication is not less stuff to worry about, precisely
  • + 3
 every time I see someone complaining about 'that fiddley cable system' I think of them as this:
youtu.be/2jP3WSQpA_0
  • + 1
 On so smooth and easy cable pul as it is on Eagle with an upgrade of Yoke wheel, I am not missing wireless and motor at all...
  • + 6
 @pargolf8: I am ordering cable ends and ferrules. One bottle will last years. I bought cable cutters to use a couple times per year. I occasionally have to buy housing due to kinking. The shifter has a ton of moving parts which sometimes just fail.
Fewer moving parts is better. Also, once companies stop basing the design on a cable derailleur and really start thinking this could grow lighter and smoother.
What you think is an elegant and simple system is actually stupid complicated. Computers are getting cheaper and simpler but shifters are getting more complicated every year with smaller and more fragile parts.
Also, that cable has to go past the stearing and rear suspension meaning it has to flex constantly. There is just no way to do it that both looks good and isn't scouting to install. Electronics are just simpler. A servo and a radio. Easy peasy.
  • + 4
 @b-wicked: we got rid of pennies in Canada a long time ago, they were too small to ride, let alone fart on.
  • + 1
 @dwojo: But what about all those fancy cable ports for internal routing? What shall I do with those???
  • + 0
 @TucsonDon: put a plug in it...
  • + 2
 @jclnv: didn't mean to neg prop you. But yeah seriously, I never mess with or worry about my rear der or cables. And I run 2x9. Oh yeah, external routing on my bike too!
  • + 1
 e brakes please!
  • + 1
 @Nick-Marotta: Nope. Sorry. I prefer feeling the physical response allowed by hydros. It may be lighter and less work to have electric, but that feedback you get through the fluid is worth the work and weight.
  • + 36
 You should have made RC write this...
  • + 72
 Never heard of him.
  • + 13
 @mikelevy: what has pinkbike come to, no pun was too small! This is why I ditched cable and only have WiFi!
  • + 12
 Took me a while to get it. Good one.
  • + 22
 @mpope: I usually only come to the comment section for the pun threads. They're so good sometimes!
  • + 6
 I'm all for chord cutting. It's a generational thing though.
  • + 28
 Sram e-eagle?
  • + 24
 Stealing that. Thanks Smile
  • + 20
 Sram e-flap
  • + 9
 Next year, easter: SRAM e-GX
  • + 0
 @mikelevy: haha. Sounds like a stutter.
  • + 53
 e-gull?
  • + 15
 @DirtBagTim: Even better
  • + 8
 E-eagle on an e-bike? EEEAGLE!!!!
  • + 6
 I know Tyler Morland well. He grew up a couple of hundred feet from me. He let it slip to his parents that the real name of the new series will be:

xx gerbil and
xx hamster

The gerbil gets upgraded carbon bits
  • + 1
 Just make it eegle.
  • + 0
 Let's hope that they get the e-tension correct on this model derailleur
  • + 3
 Sram AAgle
  • + 3
 E-duck will have 14 gears, ducks are fat
  • + 3
 @AMGoran:
SRAM Li-On has more teeth
  • + 1
 Sram E-mu?
  • + 1
 @dldewar: literally just watched the collective and was wondering what happened to Tyler Morland... Good to know he's still involved in the industry!
  • + 15
 make an app too, to sincronize with phones, so you can can just say 'siri, up shift' and don't have to fiddle with those annoying fingers anymore. yeeeah, and sincronize it with those smartwatches that measure heart rate too, so it can shift to bigger cogs automatically when you reach certain bpm moar E, moar better!
  • + 17
 Would be cool if the clutch automatically disengaged for a split second while you shift. That's the sort of marginal gain I'd expect xc racers to love.
  • + 8
 First Eagle, now e-Gull... get the Flock outta here with this insanity! Tickle down version will be called B-eagel, but you might see M. Levy eating B-agels instead of donuts during the e-shifting debate with Kazimer in the near future.
  • + 3
 What kind of battery do these have?

D-cellerys?
  • + 10
 Next up traction control and ABS - ha!!!
  • + 3
 Eventually that will happen
  • - 4
flag Socket (Mar 7, 2018 at 17:58) (Below Threshold)
 @chadchandler7: probably not on MTBs. You need a power source and a pump for starters.
  • + 5
 I think Bosch has actually introduced ABS for e-bikes. It adds a huge container to the bike. It is probably not fit for mountainbikes (nor can I see how this could possibly be adequate with fast changing terrain conditions like roots, slippery rocks etc) but I can imagine it is nice for commuters descending a wet road in traffic on a packed bike. They don't care about the extra weight and bulk, as long as they make it home safely without ever having learned the skills required for mountainbiking.
  • + 2
 There is that fake ABS thing that you can splice onto your brake line. We've shown at Sea Otter a few times but I can't seem to find it now for some reason. Makes some sense on the front of a rental bike that isn't going to see hard use...?
  • + 2
 Just go back to canti brakes, they never seemed to lock up
  • + 10
 What if I want mine to be powered by gasoline?
  • + 8
 The only issue is the cost. I wonder what the price is going to be for the shifter which is essentially a wireless transmitter with 2 buttons.
  • + 3
 On par with eTap. Boutique for now.
  • - 3
 It's the same tech as a wireless speedometer, it doesn't have to be expensive.
  • + 11
 @greendarthtater: LOL! It's SRAM.
  • + 2
 @greendarthtater: Exactly how is is the same tech as a wireless speedometer? Seems entirely different to me.
  • + 2
 The fact that I was looking to replace my "getting worn out" SRAM GX mech will cost £75 on sale, when I can but an XT mech and shifter for £10 more tells me this shiz is gonna be mega money.
  • + 9
 Will it come in 27mhz and 49mhz versions so you can race a friend?
  • + 9
 Saving my money for next year's wireless brakes. What could go wrong?!
  • + 4
 Unneeded, expensive bling. XT M8000 with the coated Shimano cables is amazing, as in it works absolutely great in crappy conditions for long periods of time and won’t cost $400 if I break the derailleur on a rock. If y’all want this, go for it, but it’s way too expensive and complicated for an incremental gain. I’m happy to replace cables once a season if needed.
  • + 7
 Shimano SP41 for the win.
  • + 2
 Why stop there.....How about...
E-mtb with that hunk-a-chunk of a battery that has Qualcomm 3.0 USB-C outputs to power up almost any gadgets one pour onto their bike. Power that GoPro, smartphone(s), lights, SRAM E-Blacktapbox Eagle batteries, Garmin....bla bla bla.....
#endlesspossibilities
  • + 2
 Ghost has a trekking mtb with a front hub dynamo to charge devices (like gps or phone) through a port on the stem cap (I think). These aren't e-bikes, it is just the power generated by the front hub. Not sure about e-mtb, but I think at least some e-bikes for commuting do have an usb port on the handlebar mounted controller/display to power a gps device (or a phone used as such).
  • + 1
 Psh.. not impressed until all my shifting & braking is taken care of by AI reading my thoughts and desires, I ain't got no time for moving fingers or voice commands or even targeting my eyes.

Until then I guess I'm stuck with my short cage Saint with alloy jockey wheels and Teflon cable that I last touched about 5 years ago. Having components that just work with no drama sure is boring.
  • + 1
 I recognise that I once said "I will NEVER ride a 29er, they are rubbish", and now I'm a total convert, but do we need electronic shifting?

I would rather something I can fix with rock and a stick on the trail side. by all means, roadies, racers, knock yourselves out, but I don't see me taking it up.
  • + 2
 "we cannot comment on photos, rumors or speculation.'' - FFS it's not a rumor or speculation Nino is racing on it! Just say that it's a prototype and we don't have a release date yet.
  • + 5
 Things I forgot to charge before my ride, phone, oh shyt shifters ... !
  • + 2
 It occurs to me that as this trickles down to cheaper models it may get cheaper to put together complete bikes. You can cut a couple minutes off the install time in the factory which adds up over a lot of bikes.
  • - 1
 SRAM only have released an etap red version on the road, likely there won’t be trickle down for Mtb. I’d love to be wrong, but just using their road wireless as an indication.
  • + 1
 @jfkusa: road bikes are using disk brakes. If it makes sense it will make the leap.
  • + 2
 @taletotell: agreed, I am hopeful that there will be a wireless gx, but it is most likely a few years out of you use their road e tap as an indication.
  • + 3
 Move to South Africa. It might be a "shithole"country, but nobody can give a damn if your bike as some e-assistance or drug assistance...
  • + 0
 What happens when the screen pops up with an “update needed” dialog while your bombing through a tech trail section? And of course you’ll get the ever popular “update now, remind me later” followed by “update in one hour, update tonight” choices. Of course no shifting capability will be enabled until those oh so crucial choices have been made. Why do we want bikes that require software updates?? Just asking.
  • + 4
 Meh. Still waiting for electric tires
  • + 1
 In totally related news, I'm an old dude that's buying another hardtail single speed DJ. These kids running electric barspinners now? I didn't read the article Wink
  • + 3
 WAH its cheating. I prefer to earn my shifts.
  • + 1
 i assume its going to be voice commanded. And you will be able to customize the commands. I already have my own cool ideasSmile )
  • + 1
 Its great and all, really interesting, but what will its name be? E-Touch? Because tap isn't aggressive enough for us grimy mountain bikers?
  • + 10
 e-fist
  • + 1
 E-stroke
  • + 1
 E-Thump
  • + 2
 E-vil
  • + 1
 E-Snap
  • + 1
 MTB-tap
  • + 1
 Cool concept. I wonder, though, if you and your buddy had the same wireless drive train, would you be able to change his, too, if you were close enough?
  • + 7
 That could get fun. Even just hacking the code and having a controller with you and dropping him into the small cog 10 feet up a climb ????
  • + 6
 It just gets paired like Bluetooth headphones. Probably easily hackable but no, your buddy won’t shift your bike for the same reason you don’t hear other people’s podcasts on the bus.
  • + 2
 If you're riding with him on a tandem, yes.
If it were likely to be problem, do you think it might not have been evident long ago in the road groupsets, given there might be 10+ riders in a pack all using eTap in close proximity? When was the last time you heard about cross-talk between powermeters/HR monitors etc? It's decades since 'accidental' cross talk was sorted out (e.g. by ANT+/Bluetooth pairing), and eTap backs this up with encrypted signals to prevent deliberate interference.
The kind of radio equipment needed to interfere with this is not going to be legal to operate.
  • + 1
 Nope, there can be a whole group of roadies on etap and there is no accidental shifting.
  • + 1
 @dsut4392: Just curious because I wasn’t sure. I have no idea what equipment roadies use or have been using, and honestly I had friends talking about cross talk between heart rate monitors just about a week and a half ago. I figured this wouldn’t be an issue, though, and was hoping someone more knowledgeable would give an explanation.
  • + 1
 @dsut4392: Wooooooooah you cant come in here and talk actual sense and state facts!!!
  • + 3
 Very much happy to hear this option.
  • + 3
 Ladies and gents, I give you 12-speed road/CX/gravel.
  • + 2
 XDR for the win. Beer
  • - 1
 We here at pinkbike didn't get fooled by those photoshops. We waited until our paymasters at SRAM gave us the ok to post the picture and we said only what they want us to say. You will have the full story after our all expenses paid trip to a SRAM press event in the Canary Islands and we can post the official press release from poolside at the most expensive hotel there. No way we would want to miss out on that.
  • + 8
 Frown Never been to the Canary Islands but I'd sure love to go. Anyway, I did get fooled by those photoshops but dug a bit deeper just in case - good thing I did. SRAM hasn't said a word about e-Gull to us yet, and the Instagram post that you see here is from a photographer in SA who sniped it.
  • + 3
 Whatever they call it, I am refering to it as E-Gull from here on out. That's just too good.
  • + 1
 @mikelevy: No photos of the shifter? Looks like Nino was standing still and wouldn't have been that hard to grab some kind of photo of his handlebar too..
  • + 0
 Anything electronic is a no go for me. I want to feel the cable pull through every shift I do and know that my dropper will work no matter what
  • + 2
 Could we get a more detailed discription of this wireless shifting?
  • + 2
 Don't like SRAM drivetrain, I'd go Di2.
  • + 2
 Have fun with your expensive wire kits.
  • + 1
 @seraph: It's ok cus I use 1×11, only 3 wires~~
  • + 2
 Fake news. Nino would never use that gear.
  • + 1
 wonder if the ugly shifter Gwin has been seen using has anything to do with this?
  • - 2
 ..I always find it amusing how many "How To" Videos about bike maintenance you will find..and somehow Ninos mechanic Yanick has forgotten to lube the drivetrain.
I have ridden in Stellenbosch and that dust is hard on drivetrains.
It almost seems that this drivetrain was cleaned/polished for the photoshoot.
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 They do not use oil, they use wax to lube. Its far better than conventional oil because the wax remains inside the links of the chain, unlike the oil that runs down the entire chain and gathers dirt.
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 @AlvaroFederico
I did not mention oil..I mentioned "lube the drivetrain".
Still Looks polished AF
  • + 1
 there is some decent footage pof the wire;less shifter on the wc course preview video over on redbull.tv
  • + 2
 Pretty sure the “compute” is a GoPro Fusion camera... just a guess
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 *computer
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 Mechanical doping, Nano motors in the pulleys....
  • + 1
 Wireless bike motor in the downtube is coming, if not already being used by the pros!
  • + 1
 next up cable less brakes and wireless suspension lockouts! “ride by wire” tech..
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 Me likely Smile
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 Shimano already made one years ago....
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 Can I have one for my singlespeed?
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 E - SHIFT (The "F" is silent)
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 Stellenbosch World Cup - please more XC coverage
  • + 1
 That'll be £10,000,000,000,000,000,000 please
  • - 1
 Nino winning will have nothing to do with his drivetrain being wireless or not. He would win with an 8 speed LX drivetrain form 1999. Dude is unreal, figure it out.
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 That's clearly not what I meant, only that it'd be an ideal marketing scenario for SRAM if he did win using the group.
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 @mikelevy: that's not what I meant Mike, just speaking in general.
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 Can't wait for GX/NX e-eagle in like 5 years time.
  • + 1
 This with an e-dropper would make your bike cockpit so clean.
  • + 1
 Come on wireless actuated Pinion gearbox..... hurry up and get here.
  • + 2
 5Rot actually developed a hydraulic shifter for the Rohlhoff hub. I was thinking it'd be adaptable to Pinion's gearbox. Clean, a closed circuit without stretchy cables, and completely silent
  • + 1
 Wireless or cable actuated they still can't shit under load!
  • + 2
 Why?
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 If it's wireless, can it be hacked?
  • + 1
 Now, you have to find someone who actually gives a shit about it.
  • + 1
 JRA totally called it over a year ago! Eagle-Tap FTW!
  • + 1
 Shimano, hurry up with Saint Di2!!
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 The release date for Saint DI2 is Neveruary 31st.
  • + 1
 Dang... forgot to charge my derailleur... wont be changing gears today..
  • + 5
 I know you're joking, but it's actually really easy to carry a spare eTap battery with you.
  • + 0
 I think the only way I'd buy into an electronic shifter is if the battery was able to last a few days
  • + 4
 The Road mechs can last up to 1000km per charge on the road. With the same battery it may last slightly less than that as the mtb mech will have to overcome the added resistance from the clutch and a potentially more shifting and movement. It should last way more than a few days for a single charge.
  • + 7
 The etap stuff is supposed to give you 60 hrs of use... So unless you are doing back to back to back 24 hour races you should be fine.
  • + 7
 The di2 drivetrain lasts way longer than a few days, roadies can get 1000 miles/couple months though it all depends on how much shifting you're doing
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 @kevin267: But wireless uses more juice.
  • + 14
 They last longer than the service interval of your fork...
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 @kevin267: but its wired, giving the ability to add a larger battery. Putting battery directly on the mech limits the size a bit - both in real estate and sprung weight. I would give up wires for a smaller battery
  • + 1
 @kevin267: I had no idea the technology had come that far
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 @tkrug: You say that but in reality I think you'd be wishing for the wires.

I have Di2 and it's fine, but if I had to charge it a lot more often, like a suspect a wireless system is going to need, I'd just go back to cables.
  • + 2
 Sounds like the battery lasts about as long as a chain. New chain, charge er up. I can live with that.
  • + 1
 My road bike di2 uses most power with the front derailleur (a front derailleur is a thing that shifts between two chainrings.....oh, never mind). When battery gets super low the front D is first to shut down allowing the rear to have about 300 shifts, give or take 300 shifts.
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 2 thoughts:

1) Seriously: Do we really need another part that requires a lithium ion battery, creating more toxic waste in the bike industry and for the world?

2) Every Wireless signal can be interfered or hacked: Yay...that theorectically opens a whole new level of cheating at a competition...

But on the other hand: When at home on my tacx trainer I can tell Alexa to shift my gears...
  • + 1
 electric scooter
  • + 1
 Looks rad. I'll buy it.
  • + 1
 Let's do this!! I want
  • + 0
 I gets no love? That's cold. Ah well.
  • - 1
 Sram: "Hmmm... $300 for a derailleur isn't making us 'enough' money... hey lets do an electric one and charge $1000!!"
  • + 1
 Shimano has electronic shifting. And not a single person is forcing anyone to buy either. I can afford a Ferrari or Porsche but I'm glad they exist
  • + 0
 Dont care, dont want, gimme a freakin gearbox
  • + 0
 BlackBox EagleTap XX
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