14 Bikes From The Core Bike Show 2020

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el-nombre FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:53)

What's wrong with that Ripmo? I'm sure it didn't look that hideous in other pictures.

75 6

gravity-afrique (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:04)

Nope. Always been ugly AF.

27 4

SlodownU (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:16)

@orwa: Most XL sized frames are ugly AF, proportions are all off. Just throw that Trust fork on there to complete the look.

12 2

donpinpon29 (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:22)

Should be called ugly AF. That hump trying to get smashed by the first rock it finds

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tgent FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:30)

The orange definitely doesn't do it any favors. I'm a fan of the raw color.

2 5

erichsch (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:01)

probably also because most of the other pictures you see of this bike are carbon frames

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steflund FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:34)

I think part of it is that massive void where the bottle and cage are supposed to go. Combined with an XL frame you just get a substantial front triangle

7 0

kusanagi72 (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:00)

It surely looks like a gate.... or even worse... a Cube

3 0

Fliberico (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:34)

It looks like an old HARO - especially if you paint it in gray
the first RipMo looked sharp-on though (blue&orange version)

2 0

moity (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:40)

@tgent: that "raw" is actually silver paint, very disappointing! The orange would be my choice.

5 3

brentkratz (Jan 30, 2020 at 16:56)

@SlodownU: If that Pivot with the Trust fork made me ride like in my dreams I still couldn't! Bad 70's sci-fi movie. Ugly AF and that slack angle on the fork is just so wrong looking!

2 0

beanandcheeseburrito (Jan 30, 2020 at 18:52)

@SlodownU: I personally think my XL Yeti SB130 looks great and well proportioned.

3 0

gafoto (Jan 30, 2020 at 20:18)

@steflund: Easily the largest front triangle that still can't fit a water bottle. Definitely a jewel tapper top tube.

1 0

EvoCycles2020 (Jan 31, 2020 at 1:37)

@erichsch: lol alloy frame ONLY!!!

2 0

Shredder96 (Jan 31, 2020 at 8:34)

@steflund: looks like a walmart bike

1 0

erichsch (Mar 6, 2020 at 5:55)

@EvoCycles2020: didnt knew that

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racecase (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:03)

It's taken 2 decades to come to say this, but that GT looks alright-

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tgent FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:29)

Until you see the price and realize you're buying a GT for the price of a Yeti.

5 2

DavidGuerra (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:02)

Boring at last!

13 0

Tacocat13 (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:06)

@tgent: the Force and Sensor Frame is a killer price.

13 0

JayUpNorth (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:49)

@tgent: the entry level force is $1500cdn less than a yeti frame. what price are you comparing?

1 0

barbarosza (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:10)

Nooooo

10 0

cjgauss (Jan 30, 2020 at 21:07)

I thought the exact opposite, man that GT looks cheap......

3 0

Clem-mk FL (Jan 31, 2020 at 0:24)

But looks like he borrowed the saddle of his son.

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johnnygolucky (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:55)

I might get down voted into hell for saying this, but I don't care if that Trust fork could make me the best egg and bacon sandwich every morning for breakfast, I still wouldn't want to wake up next to it.

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kekke (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:16) (Below Threshold)

They won't make you "the best egg and bacon sandwich every morning for breakfast" because looking at mechanical perspective linkage forks are actually dumb. It's like inventing square wheel.

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stumphumper92 (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:25)

I think there's a lot of hope for linkeage forks. But there's still a long way to go before they become standardized. I would not buy one this early in development. But I am sure they will become prettier and more standardized.

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dolface (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:24)

It's def ugly but I got to ride that exact setup and once you get over the freakish looks it's fun as hell! (Still not gonna buy one though).

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UncleSpec (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:47)

Same here. Looks like you put seddle on cow

8 1

everythingsucks FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 16:15)

@johnnygolucky clearly drives a Buick and not a Porsche

2 1

friendlyfoe (Jan 30, 2020 at 20:28)

@stumphumper92: People have been saying that for roughly 20 years now. Something about the concept just doesn't solve the problem it's trying to, or it creates others in the process (more so on the moto side).

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Matt115lamb (Jan 30, 2020 at 23:39)

It’s the only fork that makes the bike in front go faster !

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Johnsterfer (Jan 31, 2020 at 0:48)

@kekke: Super excited for when we get telescopic rear suspension then if linkage is so bad.

2 1

ctd07 (Jan 31, 2020 at 2:26)

@friendlyfoe: its like the magnetic pedals for spd users who can't ride flats... fork dive under braking and on steep stuff is a problem only people who dont set up their fork correctly have, I run a lot of lsc and it simply isnt an issue if you ride hard

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rrolly (Jan 31, 2020 at 6:47)

@UncleSpec: I don't care if the English isn't perfect, I want "Looks like you put seddle on cow" on a t-shirt. That is gold!

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stumphumper92 (Jan 31, 2020 at 7:23)

@friendlyfoe: Right. As the saying goes.. "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

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cyclebean (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:17)

If there’s one thing that unites the PB community, it’s craft British steel!

12 1

Matt115lamb (Jan 30, 2020 at 23:33)

Tell that to the planks in Scunthorpe who voted for brexit , no deal means no steel !

5 1

Matt115lamb (Jan 30, 2020 at 23:35)

Can’t even say Sc*nthorpe anymore

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CrispyNuggs (Jan 31, 2020 at 8:27)

Thank Christ we’re leaving the EU @Matt115lamb:

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hamncheez (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:21)

If you're getting high performance aluminum you have two great choices- raw or don't get an aluminum frame

12 2

babymorox (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:28)

Anodized

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tgent FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:29)

I live my life by these guidelines. Raw or nothing at all...

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hamncheez (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:58)

@tgent: thats why I have two kids and another on the way!

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gapos999 (Jan 31, 2020 at 3:17)

@hamncheez: I quit raw after 3rd child ;-)

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jgdblue (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:15)

The coolest thing in this article is that stem on the NS Define! I need that!

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Ryan2949 FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:55)

I'm in the market for a stem, and I considered it when seeing it on Chain Reaction, but seeing it on that bike vs images on CRC made me finally decide on it!

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h82crash (Jan 30, 2020 at 19:05)

Although they could have either repainted the top of the steerer tube or stripped it bare since the stem has the exposed bit. Would have looked a bit cleaner

18 1

jamesendbmx (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:27)

yay cotic

16 2

shapethings (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:48)

That cotic is fantastic looking. Easy winner for me.

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T-Bot FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:56)

Lost it for me with the mega mudguard and the tyre made for hot dry and dusty conditions.

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softsteel (Jan 31, 2020 at 1:18)

Yes that Cotic is sexy...
also, a detail: isn`t odd to see a british bike equipped with Dissector tyres for dry conditions ?

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vinay FL (Feb 1, 2020 at 2:44)

Yeah from this list I absolutely love the Cotic. If I'd get a full suspension bike now the Flare would be high up (if not top of) my short list. However if I would be in the market for something like the Rocket (so not the Max version indeed), it would be a tough call between that and the Curtis XR650. Cotic uses (on paper) better steel. There is just something very cool about that Curtis. It looks like an Orange, just out of steel.

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senders-creak (Jan 30, 2020 at 18:38)

Can anybody agree the the Ragley Piglet and the Cotic Rocket Max both look pretty sick with straight lines and defined angles?

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cotic-bikes (Jan 31, 2020 at 0:08)

Yes. Yes we can

12 1

astorms (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:23)

The TT on the Mondraker.......

7 1

DuelingBanjos (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:40)

I've never seen one in person but it looks so thin.

7 0

PHeller (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:40)

That Mondraker looks rad. There is material in those thin tubes too, as the complete builds are still around 32lbs (which is still pretty good for a 160mm bike.)

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wobblegoblin (Jan 30, 2020 at 21:56)

@PHeller: that Mondraker is the first bike I’ve seen that I want to f*ck!

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Matt115lamb (Jan 30, 2020 at 23:44)

@unrooted: Mechanophilia is quite popular in some states !

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skidor99 (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:26)

Am I really seeing a Ceramic Speed Jockey Wheel on a GX Drivetrain? WHY didn't you get a X01 instead of spending that rediculus money on that stupid shit...

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notthatfast (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:49)

Hey, some people like spending exorbitant amounts of money to make their shifting poorer. And that's okay. Actually I lied, it's not okay.

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ICKYBOD (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:09)

...before you even get to the GX Drivetrain...I'm not sure I've ever heard someone on a Transition ask, "I wonder how I can save 1.6 watts?" But still, it'd give you something to talk about.

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butters1996 (Jan 30, 2020 at 17:18)

I mean, from experience shifting performance doesnt really increase with a nicer derailleur, and they get smashed up anyway. But the bike is already super pimped out so not sure why that Is the case, maybe someone rode it and broke the derailleur recently and that's all they had?

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notthatfast (Jan 30, 2020 at 19:33)

@butters1996:
I think they did it because (presumably) the distributor for Transition also distributes Ceramic Speed and they wanted to show it off. It does look pretty dumb on a GX drivetrain.

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mikemax99 (Jan 31, 2020 at 4:59)

UK mud and ceramic speed pulley... hummm I'll try this again: Uk mud and ceramic speed pulley.
No it dosen't fit together

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kittenjuice (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:42)

They tried to soften the blow by putting the ripmo before it, but holy hell that lapierre is nasty. It's like a mashup of the worst things in 2000 with the worst things in 2020.

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CrispyNuggs (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:49)

Pleased to see the Cotic is the popular choice it’s a great bike

7 0

mattmach7 (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:43)

Cotic....f...ck me!!! I ordered mine first Cotic HT and...can't wait. Outstanding.

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PHeller (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:43)

NS Synonym looks rad. Simple and capable. The NS Define in alloy looks terrible. A little too much shaping in some of those gussets and welds. The sweet fade paintjob is the only thing saving it.

4 0

JLastra (Jan 30, 2020 at 18:20)

The NS Define looks like a canyon strive.

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ROOTminus1 FL (Jan 31, 2020 at 4:59)

@JLastra: I saw it as the illegitimate love child of the Strive and a Norco Sight. It could well be a good bike to ride, but style wise it looks like an Alibaba knock-off

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SunsPSD (Jan 31, 2020 at 7:51)

That E-Zesty is the future of e- biking, and possibly biking in general.
It's an analog bike, and a perfect light duty e-bike in one.
I'd like to get my wife on one so that we can actually ride together as she'd be able to climb with me.
With so little downside, I'd be surprised if every bike couldn't be purchased with, or without the motor/ battery pack in 10 years. Same frane in both instances.

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kusanagi72 (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:05)

Is this a Maxxis advert? (minus 1)

Why do I see a picture of tyre logo with each bike? I don't give a rat's ass about which tyre is on the bike. Easiest part to exchange for your own personal favourite.

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softsteel (Jan 31, 2020 at 1:22)

You`re right..... and these ``minus 1``Hutchinson Griffus are kind of sexy, aren`t they?

2 0

rrolly (Jan 31, 2020 at 6:50)

If you really want to get worked up about something, check out what appears to be a climb switch on the e-bike.

2 1

scbullit36 (Jan 31, 2020 at 5:42)

Not knocking it but...can someone who owns a Cotic please speak to what makes it good? What kind of trails are you riding? Based on the looks of the geometry, it seems like it is a 150/160 mm park bike? What does this bike ride like on tighter trails?

I've seen a couple bikes with this geo now, Nicolai Geometron, this Cotic, and the Pole Evo Link. They all seemed to be geared to a specific type of riding and don't look like good all around bikes...to me...

Wondering what kinds of trails people are riding these bikes on and...if it is mostly park or lift accessed trails because the geometry is not suited for much anything else...why not just get a DH bike? Especially with the Cotic...it looks like the weight of that thing is pushing modern day DH bike.

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downtimepodcast (Jan 31, 2020 at 5:53)

Hey @scbuilt36 I've got a Cotic FlareMAX, so a bit shorter travel than the RocketMAX but still rocking the 'longshot' geometry. I am definitely not a park rider, and ride it on all sorts of trails, from steep tight technical riding, to faster DH type stuff, and some trail centre flowy bits here and there. I find the geometry confidence-inspiring and have never struggled to get it around corners. Also don't be fooled by the weight game... there really isn't that much in it between a well designed steel frame and a well designed (ie actually going to last you a while) carbon frame.

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cotic-bikes (Jan 31, 2020 at 8:28)

It's not a park bike at all, it's about covering ground at speed with lots of confidence, regardless of the gradient or technicalilty. I know the geometry looks a bit different to the norm, but they are bikes for riding around on, just like any other enduro bike. I use mine everywhere, but mostly our local Peak District riding, and it's amazing in the steep tech up in Tweed Valley. That said, I've had a perfectly nice time riding it around some forest singletrack with my kids. Our friends at Cane Creek have a couple of Cotic's over there and love them for Pisgah. I hate bike parks personally! The key is that the length of the bike allows a super short stem whilst keeping the rider centred on the bike. The 35mm stem gives very responsive steering, so you need to back off the head angle to balance that out, which in turn gives even more confidence to the front end. It's all about confidence. When you feel confident in the handling of your bike, you enjoy ridnig more and can push what you are capable of further.

If you get a chance to ride one of these kind of bikes, do. We're not doing it to be obtuse or weird, we're doing it because we believe it's better than conventional geometry. If you can't see it on paper, just ride it. As for weight, a RocketMAX frame is caparable to a Megatower CC and lighter than a Sentinal, to name just two that we have weighed. And weight isn't the complete be all and end all. I use steel for performance. The ride feel and traction generated by the stiffness I can dial into the frames is well worth a couple of ounces, and they are durable and can be recycled, and aren't made out of crude oil like carbon fibre. All things worth having, in my opinion.

I did a podcast on this if you want to hear a bit more. www.downtimepodcast.com/cy-turner

Cheers,

Cy
Founder and Director
Cotic Bikes

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DaMilkyBarKid (Jan 31, 2020 at 11:44)

I've got a Rocket (27.5 version of the Max) and it's just ridiculously confidence inspiring. I use it to ride DH, bike parks, to hit trial centres hard and when I just want to plough through stuff! It may be a bit heavier than other bikes but the only time I notice the extra heft is when I'm picking it up, it hides the weight very well when you're riding. As a package it ticks a lot more boxes than any of the other bikes I demo'd before buying it. For longer days on mellower trails I have other bikes but the Rocket is just great at what it does. It's not an all-round bike, the Flare is that one. This is a proper Enduro bike that can be used all day.

Ride one and you will see what I mean.

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makkelijk (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:40)

Anything with eeWings wins any beauty contest hands down..

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sean916 (Jan 31, 2020 at 8:28)

Agreed! But every time I look at those cranks I just can't convince myself to buy a square taper crank set!

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jaame (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:16)

1. Shimano is back. 2. Coil shocks are back 3. I totally want that Nukeproof or my son. It should come with plastic pedals though. Cheaper and lighter, both desirable for a kids' bike. 4. eeWings... wow. Want!

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Dropthedebt (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:47)

Choosing between the Nukeproof or your son is a tough one. Probably best check with your partner before you decide.

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jaame (Jan 30, 2020 at 23:37)

@Dropthedebt: nice one!

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chrismtb22 (Feb 1, 2020 at 1:48)

The Nukeproof doesn’t come with the Sam Hill pedals. They were just fitted to show the new pedal in the Nukeproof room at Core Bike Show.

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stoo61 (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:04)

Ragley is beeyooteefool

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fewnofrwgijn (Jan 30, 2020 at 16:10)

I was torn between the cotic and the identiti mettle, ironically the most popular and the least popular ones. That Ripmo AF is ugly though

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aschark (Jan 31, 2020 at 0:03)

For the NS Define AL:
"Featuring a solid mix of Fox and SRAM componentry there is nothing missing from this enduro-ready rig."
Clearly pedals are missing....
...
...
I'll see myself out...

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kcollins (Jan 31, 2020 at 0:37)

Scrolling down....see that Cotic........now i need new underpants.

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jasminov (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:49)

That Super Foxy is Super Sexy!

1 0

just6979 (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:43)

Cable routing on the Ibis is rough. Gonna be tough to get a water bottle in there, and the loop at the rear mech is just ugly.

4 1

OperateEng (Jan 30, 2020 at 16:16)

If I select no e-bikes, will the lapierre disappear?

3 0

chrish (Jan 30, 2020 at 16:47)

Lapierre really missed a trick by not calling their e-bike the Zest-E...

3 0

Beez177 (Jan 30, 2020 at 17:18)

The Ripmo looks like holding in a fart. Terrible looking bike.

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MtbSince84 (Jan 30, 2020 at 19:52)

I ride a Ripmo (carbon), and thinks it's a beautiful bike, but when I scrolled to the AF in this article, I went "WTF?!?". Maybe it's the proportions of size XL, combined with the color, like someone else mentioned. Yikes.

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bakemono (Feb 1, 2020 at 21:33)

Yikes exactly. The fc looks huge and the rc appears tiny.

3 0

freeinpg FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 17:41)

C'mere ya sexy little Piglet! Wait a sec....

1 0

seismicninja (Jan 30, 2020 at 23:25)

Is NS trying to be funny naming the bike Synonym and using an upside down shock? They must have been thinking "It's similar to a normal shock..."

1 0

Reg54 (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:23)

I know a little someone who would love that Cub Scout but with 26in wheels. What's the timescales on these?

1 0

thova (Jan 30, 2020 at 23:54)

My son just has a new commencal ramones, Now wishing for a scout cub. He is my son

2 0

Fpalm (Jan 31, 2020 at 0:40)

Ns Bikes Synonym is a synonym to Kona Hei Hei

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Dustfarter (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:11)

I know I'm in the minority but I love that way that Trust for looks.

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Hogfly (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:23)

Aesthetics are completely flexible. I think the Trust looks great. There may come a time well into the future where linkage forks rule and we look back on telescoping forks as looking as silly and dated as banana seats.

2 1

DavidGuerra (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:53)

Are you?? Maybe the haters are just more vocal. I think it looks amazing, although I wouldn't necessarily enjoy all the attention I'd get with it.

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tobiusmaximum (Jan 31, 2020 at 1:01)

I actually kinda agree. To begin with I was a bit ‘wtf??!’ ...but now I think it looks like a weapon. Like some kind of military issue equipment.

2 0

13en (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:41)

There only 13 bikes here... and one of then does not have a fork

1 0

DutchmanPhotos FL (Jan 31, 2020 at 1:08)

Lesson one of how to mess up your Pivot Firebird... The NS, GT, Mondraker, and Transition are all winners!!

1 0

hitarpotar (Jan 31, 2020 at 1:27)

If there's a Super Foxy with 170mm of travel, what happens to the Dune (which last i check had... 170mm of travel, too????

1 0

donny70 (Jan 31, 2020 at 2:30)

I just want to lick those eeWings cranks. Mmmmmm

1 0

luk3w (Jan 31, 2020 at 17:53)

The new fork on the Pivot firebird looks super dumb

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richsoffar (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:28)

the transition easily looks the best on this page

4 1

chrisjk (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:38)

It kinda looks like a dolphin...not saying that's a bad thing.

2 1

Karpiel073 FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:04)

Agreed!

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tgent FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:35)

@chrisjk: As long as it's not an Angry Dolphin, Evil will allow it.

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drivereight (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:40)

It’s 2020, is this the best the Industry can do? Should have autonomous bicycling by now!

1 1

drivereight (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:42)

Bicycles should be able to balance itself by now, then you can call it to you.

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fixietwat (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:12)

Anyone who votes or has voted for that Lapierre needs to go get their head checked.
And not because it’s an ebike.

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lake-st (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:58)

Flies under the radar more that most, hehhehhehhehhehhehhhh3hh3hh3h3hhhe, You would have to be using a white cane not to see that ugliness.

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DavidGuerra (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:09)

An intriguing opinion. I'm not always a fan of anodized bling, but the bike is quite to my taste.

3 0

NotNamed (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:29)

It doesnt look that bad.

All Lapierres looked/look somewhat crazy- but no other frame design was as compliant and efficient as my old DH722.

1 0

DavidGuerra (Jan 30, 2020 at 15:56)

@NotNamed: I had the previous one, the 920, nice and beautiful but it broke. Still keep the remains for show...

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tobiusmaximum (Jan 31, 2020 at 0:59)

@NotNamed: I must need therapy, I think it’s the best looking e-bike I’ve seen. Except possibly the Decoy.

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softsteel (Jan 31, 2020 at 1:27)

yeah... putting some british Hope parts on a french bike in this context of doomed Brexit is kind of awkward.

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rrolly (Jan 31, 2020 at 6:52)

Thought I saw a climb switch on it. lol.

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tobiusmaximum (Jan 31, 2020 at 7:01)

@softsteel: the only reason brexit is a problem is because they aren't going to do anything about the main reason people voted for it.

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softsteel (Jan 31, 2020 at 12:38)

@tobiusmaximum: you`re so damn right. Peace Man.

2 1

Chilliwacker (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:21)

Is that Nigel Page's house ? Where was this convention?

1 0

jclnv (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:04)

All that worn headtube paint...

1 0

ShredKC (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:06)

When did Trust release a 160mm shout? This is what I’ve been waiting for

1 0

kanasasa (Jan 30, 2020 at 17:56)

Dawg, I heard you like pivots...

1 0

ibis09 (Jan 30, 2020 at 18:56)

Where is the pinkbike bike?

1 0

friendlyfoe (Jan 30, 2020 at 20:30)

That transition looks like an ibis

1 0

Foes2001 (Jan 30, 2020 at 21:09)

mondraker ......TT omg aexy !! another color maybe

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OllyR (Jan 31, 2020 at 4:09)

Good lord, the top.... tube (blade?) on the Mondraker is Super Foxy.

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TheLocalSpokesman (Jan 31, 2020 at 23:39)

Missed opportunity not naming the Lapierre the Zest-e.

1 0

hardtailparty (Feb 1, 2020 at 7:00)

That cub scout looks like a super fun dj/pump track bike.

1 1

Freeryde7 (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:24)

GT = all day!

Trust fork = all NEVER

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hamncheez (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:22)

Are the chainstays of the Cotic aluminum? They look kinda beefy for steel

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Fix-the-Spade (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:31)

Yes, swing arm and linkages are alu, seat stays and front triangle are steel.

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markg1150 (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:16)

@Fix-the-Spade:
Ahhh that explains why there not actually that heavy. Well the one I picked up wasn't any heavier than a ally bike.
Beautiful bikes nice builds and price
I do wonder about flex tho as I hate flex.

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hamncheez (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:02)

@markg1150: isn't flex the point of a steel bike?

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Fix-the-Spade (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:22)

@markg1150: If the Cotic demo tour goes near you have a go on one, they aren't particularly flexy bikes.

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cotic-bikes (Jan 31, 2020 at 8:32)

@markg1150: Definitely get on the demo tour if you can. We use steel for the bikes to have a little flex along the length, to breathe with the trail, keep traction on cambers and chatter and 'give and go'. Too much flex is definitely a bad thing - you want the wheels to follow eachother! But, offroad, some give over rough ground is an advantage to steel. Check out www.cotic.co.uk/demo to see if we're near you this year on the tour. It's free. Come and see what you think.

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MillerTFB (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:22)

Hope rotors > all else

1 1

MTBCamerongoldy (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:30)

pivot would have been my fav except for that fork

2 1

jpwvy5 (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:37)

Cool stock Yeti. 9k?

2 1

grnmachine02 FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:45)

I heart that Mondraker

2 2

motard5 (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:23)

Whats with British full sussers and raised chain-stays?

2 3

hansonimages (Jan 30, 2020 at 14:58)

All hate for e-bikes should be immediately channeled directly towards that fork.

2 2

wolftwenty1 FL (Jan 30, 2020 at 16:02)

Wow, a good looking Transition...who would of thought.

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trollhunter (Jan 30, 2020 at 17:11)

I don’t “Trust” that suspension. Pivoting it’s a DW design, standing for: Dumb Witted.

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richsoffar (Jan 30, 2020 at 12:28)

think they can add any more cables and hoses to that Cotic???

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cotic-bikes (Jan 31, 2020 at 0:12)

Cable management can look a bit much with the OPT remote on the slim steel tubes, but we would rather has this than full ibternal routing. Because full internal routing is stupid. In our opinion.

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softsteel (Jan 31, 2020 at 1:38)

@cotic-bikes: ``full internal routing is stupid``. I completely agree

BTW: today is a doomed day with that Brex..what-you-know. Will it have any impact on your prices?
Cheers!!!

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chakaping FL (Jan 31, 2020 at 2:23)

@cotic-bikes: Totally agree, but can you have a word with them about that white spring?

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cotic-bikes (Jan 31, 2020 at 8:33)

@chakaping: The regular linear VALT springs are black to be fair

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cotic-bikes (Jan 31, 2020 at 8:34)

@softsteel: Don't know yet. Depends on what happens to the markets next week once it's actually happened. I suspect the change will be at the end of the year once whatever deal is negotiated is in place. Certainly anything in stock now is fixed on price.

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richsoffar (Jan 31, 2020 at 11:16)

@cotic-bikes: shock remotes fit in the "is stupid category"...change my mind *sips coffee

I do hate internal routing though and prefer what ya got going on fwiw

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cotic-bikes (Feb 1, 2020 at 4:41)

@richsoffar: Ordinarily on most brands shocks where the remote activates a full lockout, I totally agree. Full lockouts on suspension bikes feel awful. They don't even feel like a hardtail, they just do a weird tiny bouncy thing because they're shuttling on the IFP. Horrid. The Cane Creek shocks are different. The Climb Switch effectively just turns up the low speed compression and rebound damping about six clicks each, so it's not full lockout, it just firms things up nicely for smoother or jumpier trails. I used the switch a far bit, but ferriting around between your knees to flick the switch takes timing and you can't always switch when you want it. When Cane Creek sent me the sample OPT I was sceptical too, but it's stayed on my bike. I love it! Because both modes are usable offroad I use it all the time, even switching halfway up climbs to open the suspension for traction in tougher sections, then firming it back up again. The other thing it allowed me to do is run my open setting even more open, because I didn't have to compromise one bit on that because I could always get to the Climb Switch via the remote. My own personal open setting uses one less turn high speed compression a couple of clicks less low speed compression too compared to the Cotic Base Tune that customer get on any Cane Creek shock fitted to our of our bikes. In conclusion, if it's an OPT on Cane Creek, it's brilliant. Any other brand, meh! ;-)

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jaycubzz (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:27)

ah yes the cotic texas gate. classic.

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yerbikesux (Jan 30, 2020 at 13:49)

I don’t like bikes

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h82crash (Jan 30, 2020 at 19:00)

Is that along the same lines as I don't like reggae?

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PNdubRider (Jan 30, 2020 at 19:43)

User name checks out

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luk3w (Jan 31, 2020 at 17:55)

ok

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