PINKBIKE FIELD TEST
eMTB Enduro Round Table
For the first time in our Field Tests, we've added an eMTB category with four exciting bikes, one of which is Yeti's first step in that direction, even though they have been part of the industry for over 30-years. The weight and prices are also hot talking points with varying battery sizes, motors, and frame materials. We used the same test track as the other five enduro bikes and also mounted the identical Maxxis control tires to keep things on a level playing field.
Arguably, the biggest and baddest bike on the chopping block was the Norco Range VLT with its massive 900 Wh battery choice, making it a heavy bike on the scale, but one that surprised us for its capabilities. Progressive geometry, like a 63º head angle and gigantic 462 mm chainstays kept this tractor squarely on line, but required some effort to tuck into corners. The extra 10 mm more travel over its competitors set the Range VLT apart with its seriously comfortable and grippy ride.
Sneaking into the top spot for ultimate traction and suspension performance was undoubtably the was the worst kept secret, the Yeti 160E with a new suspension design, labelled Sixfinity. The 6-bar linkage is a workaround to incorporate a motor into the equation, but stays inline with the Colorado brand's well known Switchfinity system found on their non-assisted bikes. The 160E had the most conservative geometry in test, but was also the lightest full-powered of these eMTB enduro bikes at 23.4 kg, making the handling on the snappier side.
In timed testing, the unassumingly simple single pivot Commencal Meta Power 29 came out on top. Not only was this the single aluminum eMTB under the gun, but one which was spec'd with 220 mm rotors on the reliable SRAM Code RSC brakes. The moderately priced Meta Power 29 had the equivalent Shimano EP8 motor of the two previously mentioned eMTBs, but checks out at $6,999.
More than doubling that figure at $15,000 was the 20.23 kg Specialized Kenevo SL. So, more for less, right? Well, the reason for the slimmer figure number is the smaller motor, which produces about half the torque of full-powered eMTBs, hence the "SL" title. The integrated battery also has less juice at 320-watt-hours, but can house a sleek second power source of 160 Wh in the water bottle cage. With all the fanciest oil slick components, wireless shifting and dropper post, it does win over the showroom floor, but will fall behind on the climbs compared to a traditional eMTB with more power. So, why did we include it in our Field Test? For starters, it was available. Jokes aside though, we wanted to see how the smaller motor and lighter weight stacked up against the rest of the fleet in the real world, both up and downhill.
Some riders prefer the extra weight of a full powered eMTB, trading the playfulness for a more secure and safe ride, while others will plan their routes differently with the emerging SL e-bike type. There were certainly some surprises in the timed testing versus perceived speed. I also think there is something to be said about the price tags on all of these bikes - it's all about smiles per mile and if the most premium bikes aren't in your budget, we showed you can still have a blast and lay down some hot laps with something a little more wallet friendly.
The 2021 Summer Field Test was made possible with support from Dainese apparel and protection, and Sun Peaks Resort. Shout out also to Maxxis, Garmin, Freelap, and Toyota Pacific.
big pet peeve of mine....moto and MTBers have so much more in common than people think, I do both as do several of my buds....
Given all the geometry adjustment, it would be very cool to see the Kenevo SL with the cascade components 180mm link (assuming it might work for this bike, despite being designed for the Enduro?), coil shock, and 180mm fork.
The linkage is actually a bit different than the enduro when you take a close look
Doesn't hurt I can do a 20+ mile ride without the extender in ~1:30 and the bike is light and playful like my analog bikes. To be honest, I find it as capable as my enduro bike just a bit more active. But I can toss a range extender on it and head out for a long day, loosing a bit of playfulness in the process.
Ignoring the sticker price of all the Specialized eMTBs I'm super curious to get out on a demo of one of these (reminds me to call the local Spec store and reserve on).
My only geo complaint is that the reach feel short (likely actually EFF) which is likely on account of how much time you spend in the saddle compared to an analogue bike. The numbers themselves put it inline with most modern trail bikes though.
In a perfect world I’d have a full power bike too but the SL platform handles so much better
Really? Haven’t heard of many issues with the mahle motor system. Way less reports anecdotally than the brose stuff . What happened ?
A handful of the dealers are in the FB owners groups and post when stock is available
For a decent length ride the Specialized effectively has no bottle mount, surely it should be fired into the sun?
Do they have a Starbucks too?
I don't feel the need for having the best of the best on the E-Bike since it would be my trail checker / vacation bike, where as the regular bike would be higher spec'd.
I already own the Meta and love it.
I am most interested in owning the Norco with the huge battery.
I am most interested in testing out the Kenevo for the lowish weight.
I am most likely to ride the Yeti to the buy and sell section for a tidy profit.
Meta power - 5792 ft in 1:57
Yeti - 4569 in 1:20
So these two with the same motor in Boost (were they in boost?) and got totally different results on the same climb? The Heavier meta power got an extra 1200ish feet and 37 minutes more on the same battery? I went out yesterday to see maybe if you were doing it in trail mode, I got 22.5 miles with 4600ft in all in trail in 1:55 and the battery was zapped. I weigh 135lbs too. So how did that happen?
You should do a separate series of test on all the motors. Fire road test and single track test. Your test seems to be on different modes or different roads, cause there's no way there that far off. And make a grim-Edonut with some crazy Chinese motor, like rob rides ebikes.
Matt - Yes Shimano is reputable with more service dealers. But their warranty service is far from perfect. My ep8 went out at 518miles. The motor would spin, but not give any power. That was in March. Shimano told me I'd have a new motor in mid-September. I'm not the only one with the problem, two other local shops had the same issue, along with countless others on the mtbr forum. So keep that in mind as you buy a $5000-12000k e-bike, it might be a garage ornament for a few months. Luckily the local bike shop had a demo with a defective battery with a similar eta for a replacement.
Moto lovers- Yes you can buy xcw's sometimes two for the same price, hell you can buy 4 surrons for the price of the sworks. But having a 200xcw, segway x60, and an e-bike, I'll take the ebike out every time. It's a different kind of fun you need to try if you're a hater like I was.
The perfect ebike in my mind would be a 180/170 high pivot with an EP8 motor and midsize battery. Until something like that comes along I think I'll save my money.
Also allowing top end top dollar S-works with weight savings everywhere to line Up vs some half price competitors in a group test will of course also bias the results. Lighter wheels and rotating mass alone transform a bike. Look at the results of your downcountry field test, where a lot of the comments about the Epic Evo S-works performance could actually be referred to its 1200g wheelset, not the frame. (Yes, I have tested both the Spur and the Epic Evo and without lower weight the Epic Evo isn't the faster or better bike)
Too uneven choice of bikes for a group test makes it tricky to compare Don't let the manufacturer choose which model you test.
Test rode S in alu version - top notch for 7k
If/When that happens, then I'll evaluate things. If the price differential between bikes and ebikes has come down considerably, I may consider it.
I still like the idea of a "class 0" ebike though (more like the Orbea Rise, Levo SL, and Kenovo SL). Not sure if I'd want to ride a ~60lb full class 1.
Is it too long visually (aesthetically ugly indeed) or in action? Because on the several footages we saw, it didn't seem to be that disturbing in the descents...
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While you and I aren't going to spend that much money on one of these bikes, many other people are. There will also be many more value-minded Field Tests in the future
But that's what makes variety good, we all have our use cases. I thought it was interesting how Matt saw the Kenevo as a tool to get more downhill laps on a manageable bike, while henry saw the Range as something basic to braap around in in cold weather. Different strokes and all that.
Yeah, the lack of other company's ebikes is a thing. Would love to see a comparison of the SantaCruz, Orbea, Canyon, etc. So many to choose from!
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It’s just way too early in the tech and the cost is just way too high for most people to consider e-bikes. Then there is the unknown issue of reliability, and closely related to that… the resale market. I feel comfortable building a $6000 bike because I know what I can get on resale. I think spending $10k on an e-bike now will result in a tremendous value loss in a very short time… either due to reliability concerns, cost to repair, or advances in tech and design.
All thise whining anti eebers shooting themselves in the foot because one day, and that could be tomorrow, theyre going to want one guaranteed
Again… I think it’s cool and look forward to advancements in the tech, but right now you guys are bravely taking on that initial risk which is to say that you will not be able to recover much of your e-bike expense on resale.
Maybe you can elaborate? Lets hear it. I'll remind that its much easier to flex if youre right not making stoopid shit up that is ez to see through
close 2nd would easily be the new giant e+2, looks a bit gianty but man its an absolute weapon
This will be totally relevant if you like long rides to determine whether you suffer hike or can actually pedal if you ever run out of battery.
It seemed like a ton of energy for you guys to do reviews, videos, timed laps, impossible climbs, etc. I'd rather that time and energy being put into the enduro / trail / downcountry bike field tests and reviews. Maybe you can do a vote: do viewers want to see an e-bike field test next year?
I rode a friend's Levo SL last weekend, and even in Eco mode, it made climbing 20% grade hills completely trivial. I don't know why they're putting these gigantic motors on these bikes - I'd rather have something as light as possible that just increases my power output by like 50%, with like a 5-hour range. Even the Levo SL felt like shit jumping because of all the extra weight (it was built up to like 42 lbs).
On the lighter, half-powered e-bikes, the fact that it doesn't feel a whole lot different makes me wonder about even have a motor / battery at all - I could just go for a normal ride, and not need to hear a motor or worry about battery life. It'll be interesting to see where things go in the next five years or so.