First Ride: Merida One-Twenty - A Mountain Bike for Mountain Bikers

Sep 29, 2023
by Seb Stott  
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Photos: Paul Box


Merida pitch their latest offering as a "jack of all trades". They call it a short travel trail bike, making a point of not using "the D world" (Downcountry). They wanted it to be affordable, reliable and simple to look after, and that ruled out super-light frame materials and components, so they can't compete with the likes of the Transition Spur or Scott Spark on the scales. They want the new One-Twenty to be a mountain bike for typical mountain bikers, who aren't interested in racing XC or enduro, can only afford one bike, and maybe need to ride to the trailhead from time to time. For many customers, it could be their first full-suspension bike.
One-Twenty Details

• 130 mm travel front & rear
• Aluminum frame
• 29" wheels
• Sizes: XS-XL
• 66° head angle, 78.5° seat angle
• Claimed weight: 15.1 Kg / 33.3 lb
• Price: £1,900/€2,280 - £3,100/€3,700
• Two water bottles
• Lifetime frame warranty
www.merida-bikes.com

The outgoing One-Twenty was released in 2019 and was starting to look dated, so Merida wanted to replace it. But this isn't a cosmetic touch-up. The new bike is more gravity-focussed, with a slacker head angle, longer reach, steeper seat tube and an aluminium-only frame that's officially rated for enduro use and carries a lifetime warranty. Oh, and the One-Twenty now sports 130 mm of suspension travel at each end. Seriously.

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Geometry

Merida use short seat tubes to make it easy for most riders to size up or down depending on how much stability they're after. They say they wanted to keep the chainstays short and the head angle not too slack to emphasise agility and playfulness for what Germans refer to as "home trails" (which I think means mellow singletrack). One number that stands out is the seat tube angle: at 78.5 degrees it's about as upright as any you'll see on a bike with this little travel, meaning the rider is placed further forwards on the bike for climbing steep slopes.



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Frame Features

Merida have once again chosen to route the cables through the headset instead of through holes in the side of the frame. You can read Merida's reasoning behind this here, but to summarise, they say it actually makes installing new cables easier as the headset bearing (once the fork is removed) is a much bigger hole to aim for than the small ports found on most frames. It also allows for shorter cables and (they say) a cleaner look. The cables are housed in foam tubes, keeping them quiet and making them easier to replace.

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A tool holder on the top tube houses a spare Universal Derailleur Hanger.
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Routing cables through the headset is a controversial choice, but Merida say they've worked hard to make replacing cables straightforward.
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There are bottle bosses on the seat tube and down tube, with room for a 500 ml bottle on the seat tube in all sizes. On the downtube, a 500 ml bottle can be mounted in XShort, a 680 ml bottle in Short, and a 760 ml bottle fits in the Mid size and up. Plus, there's a tool mount under the top tube.

There's extensive frame protection on the chainstay and under the downtube. Merida offers a lifetime warranty to the original owner and has tested it at the Zeddler Institute to category 4 standard (which means it's approved for enduro racing).



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Suspension Design

By getting rid of the pivot point usually found near the rear axle of most designs, Merida say they can save some weight, eliminate parts and reduce the need for fiddly bearing swaps and maintenance for the owner. Unlike their longer travel frames (the One-Forty and One-Sixty), the aluminum seatstay does flex by a significant amount as the One-Twenty's suspension compresses, and this contributes noticeably to the suspension forces as you get deeper into the travel. As a result, Merida say they adjusted the shock tune to compensate, going for a progressive rebound tune, which means there's relatively more rebound damping when the shock is returning from deep in the stroke, helping to control the extra energy stored in the system. But at the same time, the rebound can be run faster when dealing with small hits, helping to maintain sensitivity.


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The linkage is on the progressive side. This means the leverage ratio between the wheel and the shock drops off steeply towards the end of the travel, making it progressively harder to compress the shock as you approach full travel. Combined with the extra force from the frame flex, this makes the frame quite resistant to bottoming out.

Merida aimed to keep anti-squat and anti-rise at around 100% for the typical rider. That means that stamping on the pedals or pulling the back brake won't cause the suspension to compress or extend dramatically, which should make for a stable and supportive ride feel.



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Merida One Twenty 700 - £3,100/€3,720
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Merida One Twenty 600 - £2,500/€3,000
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Merida One Twenty 300 - £1,900/€2,280

Build Kits

Merida are pitching the One Twenty at average riders so all three build kits are made to fit a tight budget. Meridas are available in brick-and-mortar bike shops (not direct sales), making the pricing more impressive.

The top-spec 700 model, which I tested, uses SRAM's NX drivetrain, DB8 brakes and RockShox Pike Select+ fork. The mid-price 600 model might be the smart money choice, with a Marzocchi Z2 fork, Shimano Deore 12-speed drivetrain and brakes, and the same RockShox Select+ RL shock found on the 700 model. At the entry-level 300 build, you're getting Suntour's XCR34 fork and Edge Plus 2CR shock, paired with non-series Shimano brakes and Shimano Cues 10-speed drivetrain.

For full specs, click here.




The Ex Enduro 2023 - Exmoor. Please credit Paul Box Please credit Paul Box
Photo: Paul Box, at The Ex Enduro

Ride Impressions

I did a lot of riding on the One-Twenty over four days, including racing The EX enduro, which involved a lot of climbing and descending. The climbing performance is very impressive. This certainly isn't the lightest bike in its category but the suspension is very stable and efficient under power, with almost no bob or slouching.

While this is easier to achieve with less travel, it definitely can't be said of every short-travel bike. Add to this the steep seat angle (I never found it too steep) and the One-Twenty is extremely capable and comfortable when tackling punchy climbs. Pricier short-travel bikes like the YT Izzo and Nukeproof Reactor may be lighter, but they have more pedal bob and a slacker seat tube, making them feel lazier when climbing in my view. My only gripe is that I'd prefer a 30-tooth chainring.

Merida 2023 - Bike Launch Exmoor. Please credit Paul Box Please credit Paul Box

On the descents, the stock Forecaster tires roll fast but made for some heart-stopping moments in loose corners, so I switched to a familiar Maxxis Assegai/ DHR2 combo. I also added a volume spacer to the fork to match the progression of the rear. Merida say they'll spec the smaller negative-volume shock air can on production bikes to make it less progressive, but with 30% sag and no volume spacers fitted, I liked the progressive rear end. I used all the travel where appropriate, but always had good support and never bottomed out harshly. The RockShox Pike fork isn't the most sensitive at the start of the stoke, but the suspension felt balanced front-to-rear and comfortable for the travel. I was also impressed by the SRAM DB8 brakes and the 200 mm travel dropper post.

At 1,250 mm in Xlong, the wheelbase is shorter than many bikes I'm used to, which has its perks when negotiating tight, flat corners (especially when tired), but there were moments when the bike felt a little out of its depth. The 66-degree head angle occasionally feels nervous when riding complicated corners with bumps and holes, or when things get loose. To be fair, I was mostly riding it at an enduro race (Merida's idea, not mine), and Merida has the One-Forty and One-Sixty for that, but I don't think the One-Twenty would be any worse if it was a degree or two slacker. But realistically, I went beyond what the One-Twenty was designed to do and it handled it all admirably.




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190 Comments
  • 328 11
 Everyone loved this until they saw headset cable routing
  • 38 148
flag NickMcB (Sep 29, 2023 at 0:12) (Below Threshold)
 I believe Merida. The headset cable routing is just fine. Time to move on.
  • 61 175
flag goroncy (Sep 29, 2023 at 0:24) (Below Threshold)
 @NickMcB: I believe Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Yemen... . Death for being gay is just fine. Time to move on.
  • 138 12
 @goroncy: what a shitty comparison.
  • 58 1
 Yes. Until I saw headset cable routing and that a bike called “one twenty” has one hundred and THIRTY mm of travel. Just call it a “one thirty”, don’t go the way of car makers keeping names derived from specs going, when the specs don’t match!
  • 49 50
 Gotta say I'm with Merida on this one. I wonder how many people jumping on the bandwagon of slating the headset routing, are actually using it. I was very sceptical, but this year I built a 2023 Scott up with their version of thru-headset - frame only, so I had the full experience.


It really was not bad at all. Its no worse than frame routing. Some asepcts are better - exactly as stated. You have a headtube sized hole to aim for. Its been reliable. Its quiet. It looks briliant as the hoses/cables are very neatly hidden under the stem. I've had my brakes on/off a couple of times and changed the inners too, all the normal maintenance.

Doesnt put me off in the slightest.



(Oh, and its also much, much, much better for fitting race number boards to a bike!)
  • 36 9
 @snotrag: Nah it's BS, replacing the headset bearing is required much more frequently than the cables (if you live anywhere with rain) so making that quick and easy should be the priority, not making it easy for frame manufacturers who can't be arsed to put proper holes in their frames.
  • 22 6
 @snotrag: I hope you like working on your bike because you will be bleeding your rear brake and retuning your gears everytime you need to swap a headset bearing.
  • 5 7
 @HPdeskjet3630: I heard Acros is working on split berings to help with that
  • 35 0
 @iiman: Acros and bearings doesn't play well in my memory...
  • 28 3
 @HPdeskjet3630: I ride all year round and haven't changed my headset once in 3 years. What are you doing to your headset?
  • 24 0
 Same, been riding for 12 years with the same headset, with lots of commuting too. It still feels the same as when I installed it, got to love Hope. Still don't want headset cable routing....
  • 14 1
 @IntoTheEverflow: try Acros for a year and you'll know what he's on about.
  • 9 5
 I stopped reading the review as soon as I saw that.
  • 10 4
 @goroncy: Very funny. Typically german humor. Given our recent very dark history and the human rights violations associated with it, i would be very quiet If i we're you or simply make Jokes about always complaining petty Krauts.
  • 2 4
 @HPdeskjet3630: Do the controls even go through the bearing at all? Otherwise can the brake lever/shifter/dropper lever not fit through the bearing? If so it's just a matter of unbolting the controls (3 bolts) and sliding it through the bearing. If they can't the next generation of cockpit controls should be sized to slide through the bearings. amazed if they can't already!
  • 4 1
 @HPdeskjet3630: I tend to only need to replace the bottom bearing on headsets, and the top can last years. So this does not sound like much of a pain
  • 3 6
 @goroncy: lmao, sarcasm with dark humor. Nicely done!
  • 9 0
 @Tristanssid: ain't no way a brake lever will fit through a headset bearing unless 3" headtubes are an upcoming new standard.
  • 8 2
 Merida is KILLING! itself with this cable tourism.
  • 7 0
 @HPdeskjet3630: I remember when I used to deal with headsets a lot...before I started buying good headsets. Once you've experienced a headset that basically lasts forever, you don't bother with anything else.
  • 4 1
 @snotrag: Your point is not really valid. Agreed, it's no more difficult to use when building a bike up, its when having to maintain your bike that it becomes a pita.
  • 1 0
 Yeah but double rainbow - er, double bottles..
  • 5 0
 I figured the first comment I would read is about the headset routing.
  • 1 0
 @Amukinado: so, like, every few years? Ya, sounds brutal..
  • 1 1
 @Notmeatall: only for PB’ers.
  • 1 9
flag OlSkoolJake (Sep 29, 2023 at 8:19) (Below Threshold)
 @goroncy: you're f*cking gross. Didn't those ideologies die in your country, in '45 when a dude ate bullet for breakfast in bunker?
  • 2 1
 @OlSkoolJake: most certainly not.
  • 1 1
 @Muckal: I've been to Berghain and the Love Parade... The "gay" is alive and strong in your country....
  • 4 3
 @OlSkoolJake: so? (Extreme) right wing ideology is still strong and growing here. As in a lot of countries all around the globe.
  • 5 0
 This is a great opportunity for one up or wolftooth to make a simple cable guide machined into a headset spacer or something similar. Eventually we are going to get forced onto this shit just like the 29ers, and we will have people with valid reasons for holding out that could be customers of aftermarket accessories.
  • 2 1
 @Muckal: Yeah. :-( It's a sad and terrible situation.
  • 4 4
 @Jedski89: you’re telling me you don’t preventively replace your headset every 3 months so you have something to complain about in pinkbike comments?
  • 9 0
 "A Mountain Bike for Mountain Bikers" with headset cable routing? Nope
  • 5 0
 This was my exact thought process. this Merida looks nice… headset cable routing? Mierda!
  • 2 0
 @speed10: actually, looking back - I'm pretty happy I was forced on to 29.. Great time to be a mtber...
  • 1 0
 "Cable tourism"... but yes.
  • 3 2
 @HPdeskjet3630: as long as can get seals off to regrease bearings don't see what the issue is. How cable is routed shouldn't be deciding factor of if you buy a bike or not and many companies now doing it so soon probably won't be much choice on that.
  • 1 0
 @BenSandlelwP: So what you are saying is, we should be happy to have to remove our fork / brake lines / headseat to remove/rebuild/regrease the bearings, then reinstall everything + rebleed brakes as long as said bearings are rebuildable?

Logic.
  • 1 0
 @Amukinado: how often do you change your headset bearings? I tube my gears and bleed my brakes way more frequently.
  • 1 0
 @trellis-opportunity-red: I just measured my guide brake levers and the widest part apart from the clamp is sub 35mm 1.375", the lower headset bearing would fit (38mm 1.5") if the clamp design was changed. Hardly any Engineering impossibly. Get ready for a reintroduction of a failed standard!
  • 3 2
 Imagine having the audacity to call this "for mountain bikers" while showing the most moronic trend in mountain biking since...well, since randomly adding standards that no one wanted or asked for.
  • 2 3
 @snotrag: By your logic, I need to shoot myself in the foot in order to know it's bad. Of course I'm not using it, nor will I ever.
It is objectively inferior to frame routing, and it's a nonsensical solution to a non-existent problem.
  • 106 5
 Mountain bikers don’t let mountain bikers endorse cable tourism.
  • 15 1
 Amen
  • 91 16
 I mean I know that in last 2-3 years everybody got on "I don't care about my weight, bla bla..." bandwagon. But COME ON. 15kg for a 130mm bike? My 170mm bike that can withstand alpine abuse since 5 years now, weights 14kg with 2x Maxxis Assegai with DH casing. 15kg is just too much for a 130mm bike. And the cable tourism... :/ JFC
  • 24 1
 According to vital, an S5 Specialized Status weighs 15.3 without pedals. Which is a 160mm, slack as hell play bike marketed towards jibby freeridey types and which is cheap and known for being heavy.

And Merida can only beat that by 200g with their short travel trail bike?

Lmao.
  • 19 4
 It's an entry-level bike. What do you expect?
  • 5 1
 @getonyourbike: It looks to be in the same ballpark as the Status...
  • 5 1
 @AgrAde: Without the NX anchor, it surely will be waaay lighter.
  • 10 0
 @getonyourbike: entry-level prices.
  • 9 1
 Hey Weight Watcher, 14kg for an alpine panzer with DH tyres is kind of... interesting, but I'd really like to check your rig and the scale you used to weight it.
  • 8 1
 your 14kg 170mm bike is prob more expensive than this budget bike and made out C and not AL right? If you are comparing things - compare apples to apples.

My "budget" Trek EX7 is 14.5kg, the Gen 6 is 15.6kg and it's a bike that meant for a little more gnar. Budget components are also heavier and that adds up. So I see no problems with this weight as long as geo is dialed and the components work just fine

P.S. - I actually think you are lying Big Grin
  • 64 4
 Oh, new bike to look at! Oh, cable tourism. Nevermind.
  • 46 0
 A mountain bike for mountain bikers?! What will they think up next?
  • 48 1
 Hopefully a mountain bike for mountain bikers that don't want to remove the fork to replace a cable.
  • 2 0
 Pretty bad
  • 8 0
 Funny that, I don't know many mountain bikers who want cable tourism?
  • 28 2
 Looks pretty good except for the headset routing. Which is a con in my book but not a deal breaker.
However, compared to some offerings in a similar segment, the pricing is still a bit on the high side. Radon Skeen or Canyon Neuron are better deals.
Also, testing this should certainly include a bunch of much tamer trails than an enduro race. Sure, it's good to know it can handle that but why would you choose a bike like this if that is your main application.
This is a pitfall of Pinkbike, the reviewers typically ride quite rough terrain and gravitate towards long low slack bikes. I remember when the field test was done in ?Tucson? with trails that were tighter than typical BC terrain and suddenly the slackest bikes weren't the best choice anymore. Testing on a variety of trails, including flattish pedally stuff and tight alpine hiking trails with rocky switchbacks, and reporting on what works well for what terrain would certainly improve the usefulness of reviews @brianpark
  • 1 0
 The Enduro race in question was also sponsored by Merida
  • 2 0
 Lookup the EX Enduro on YouTube and you’ll see it was just about as tight and twisty as you can find!
  • 2 1
 @ak-77 radon and canyon are sold online, not in shops, you can't compare. Tell a beginner buying his first full sus bike to look at geo charts online cs trying a bike in a shop for example
  • 1 1
 @Uuno: Well, actually I can compare. I realize that for some, having a bike sold in a shop is a plus that they are willing to pay extra for. It is not for me and many others I know. Canyon has several places where you can go to try out the bikes.
  • 17 1
 The qualifying language in "they worked to make headset routing straight forward" definetely does not say "the cable routing is straight forward"
  • 7 1
 Some people will say that with the 911 Porsche have spent 50+ years refining the solution to a problem they didn’t need to have!
  • 3 0
 @ChiefSilverback:
Those people would be right.
  • 18 4
 "released in 2019 and was starting to look dated"

What the hell is wrong with you guys? 4 years old is "dated"?

Then this whole site is f*cking _ancient_. Hasn't changed look in like a decade.
  • 12 0
 Personally love that the forums (and most of the site) are still giving 2005 web vibes.
  • 17 1
 @phastlikedatnascar: i might be kinda biased but i like it. There are no content blocking ads and you can read as many articles as you like without signing up and then getting 6 junk emails per day
  • 2 0
 @mior: Oh yeah I genuinely meant that^ fwiw
  • 7 0
 @phastlikedatnascar: some things about the modern web are way worse. behind the early 2000's facade pinkbike is quite modern where it matters.
  • 2 3
 @phastlikedatnascar: You can like it, but don't try to deny it's pretty dated, especially going by their own standards of bike freshness.
  • 11 0
 "but Merida say they've worked hard to make replacing cables straightforward"

So they (and PB, as well, by repeating this without contention) don't understand what's bad about that routing. It's _not_ anything to do with replacing cables and hoses. It's that replacing other things can _force_ removal of cables and hoses. They've added a brake bleed to the process of changing the headset, and that's just plain _stupid_, no matter how "clean" it looks.

"Clean", by the way, is the worst word to pick, because it literally makes maintenance dirtier!
  • 13 1
 I love my one-sixty but my god the headset routing is just trash. - looks clean but i hate it.
  • 8 0
 Is it just me or is 3700 for the build not a crazy deal? I’d hope to see at least gx or even deore for the price. It’s not terrible but doesn’t seem like as great of a selling point as they’re making it out. The frame seems solid, at least (cable tourism notwithstanding)
  • 7 0
 The Deore one is actually cheaper...
  • 1 0
 Almost can get a decked out yt Capra for that price.
  • 2 0
 @Mac1987: I know, the point being I’d probably prefer deore given the relative unreliability of nx.
  • 2 0
 @mahargetan: fully agree
  • 8 0
 re: headset routing, they say in the linked "reasoning" is that it's better "as the critical area around the headtube/downtube is not weakened by extra holes". So why do they then put holes around the critical chain-stay yoke area, for a whopping 8 inches of hidden cable? And the bottom of the down tube? Is the BB area not also critical?
  • 9 2
 Please, please, all my mountain bike friends. Keep the loud reaming of cable tourism bikes going. This one dumb feature is proof that a brand has no clue of what matters to riders or mechanics. All the brands that to do this nonsense need to be boycotted and called out so loudly that it prevents the smart brands from being pressured into this.

We can beat this: email a bike brand with headset routed cables and remind them how stupid this feature is... and most importantly, that you will not buy a bike with this feature. Email a brand that doesn't do this and thank them for not following this trend.
  • 1 0
 Chill down a peg gramps
  • 10 1
 "Simple to look after" proceeds route cables in the least simple way.
  • 6 1
 Hope they come out with a carbon model.
The frame design with the two cages is smart, and solid geo, but weight is wild (maybe it's for the base spec bike, but still, my NS Synonym is like 12kg) and the silly naming and cable routing already mentioned...
  • 4 0
 Cheaper to ditch the heavy NX parts than to make the frame out of plastic.
  • 1 0
 you mean 12.2kg at 6000 Euro right? Big Grin f*ck off
  • 7 0
 I have a mountainbike for posers. Those have a much bigger market share. My buddy has a mountainbike for dentists.
  • 5 0
 “Merida say they've worked hard to make replacing cables straightforward” it’s not about that though is it, it’s about grit absolutely crucifying your headset in no time at all
  • 8 0
 How hard is it to name a 130mm bike, the one-thirty????
  • 4 0
 I have often wondered why there aren't more short travel trail bikes made of alloy. The simple design seems perfect and there's less of a weight penalty than in more complex designs. People who think a pound or two would make a significant difference in performance for anyone other than a pro level rider....are drinking the Kool aid. I love carbon bikes but this is exactly what I want to see more of in the bike world.
  • 3 0
 @foggnm - Off the top of my head, some short/mid travel trail bikes available in aluminum:
Giant Stance (same flex stay idea)/Trance/TranceX, Norco Fluid, Kona Process 134, Specialized Stumpjumper, Trek Fuel, Transition Smuggler, Devinci Marshall/Django/Troy, GT Sensor, for stuff you would buy at a store. YT, Canyon, Nukeproof, Fezzari and Polygon all have alloy bikes in that niche as well, if you're looking for direct to consumer. I'm not sure I the shortage you seem to imply?
  • 1 0
 To echo the other reply, doesn’t pretty much every brand have an aluminium option for this bike type, with the exception obviously of the carbon only brands.

I’ll add Orbea, Banshee, and Canfield to the list.
  • 4 0
 I don’t understand why it’s built to be enduro rated. It’s a short travel trail bike, not an enduro bike. Build it lighter to what it’s designed for and let those who want and enduro bike buy an appropriate bike.
  • 4 0
 Because it's intended to be an only bike
  • 9 3
 looks like a bike to me. the UDH thing is seriously cool. would never buy because headset routing
  • 1 0
 Seems like a comment you were forced to make bc of mod
  • 1 0
 @pargolf8: not paid so im not forced to do anything. it looks like a bike, i like the UDH thing, and I absolutely despise any kind of internal routing
  • 7 0
 NX doesn't sound like an upgrade to Deore...
  • 4 0
 Not in my books...
  • 3 0
 To say something positive for once between all the negative comments about headset routing in here:

I think the bike is actually pretty cool. A robust frame with geometry that just plainly makes sense for the travel bracket and general intentions of the bike. Sounds all good to me. And once they inevitably adjust the pricing, we're looking at a fantastic and very worthwhile trail bike for people who wanna do a little bit of everything.

Merida in general have been massively stepping up their game in the last couple of years. The One-Sixty is definitley a worthy competitor to the established long travel segment.
  • 3 0
 I'm convinced that the headset cable routing is a cost cutting measure. Frames are simpler to build if you don't have to accommodate cable entry @ the headtube. Also no variants needed for moto style vs american style cable routing.
  • 5 0
 Beautiful looking bike but yeah shame about the cables going through the headset
  • 7 1
 I refuse to accept cable routing through headsets
  • 5 0
 "the D world" (Downcountry)

"gravity-focussed"

Who is editing these articles?
  • 4 0
 No one. You.
  • 6 0
 Looked good until I saw the headset routing.
  • 2 0
 It looks like a good bike. However, I don't know what's more baffling; the headset cable routing that is universally hated by consumers, or the 130mm bike called the one-twenty?
  • 2 1
 Working hard to make through headset cable routing slightly less sucky, but then cutting corners and going with a flexstay design in an alloy bike - sure clarifies where they place their priorities. And pretty much takes them off the list for me as a heavy-ish rider in an often muddy place doing much of my own maintenance.
  • 1 0
 How does one less pivot make it worse for muddy places?
  • 2 1
 @justinfoil: The cable routing does (because muddy places mean more frequent headset bearing cleanings/changes).

The flexstay is problematic for a heavy rider more so than a light one because of material fatigue.
  • 1 0
 @justinfoil: I think the concern there is the longevity of the “heavy-ish” + alloy + flexstay combo.
  • 2 0
 @g-42: Fatigue life has more to do with cycles than gross forces: big riders won't hurt it, but riding all day every day for life might possibly get close to weakening it. That's kind of the point: aluminum can be very overbuilt to handle acute forces, but too many cycles of flexing, even if it never gets near the breaking point, will weaken it. However, this is 10's of millions of cycles, gonna take a long time to get there.
  • 1 0
 @g-42: agreed with the first, but with an Enduro rating and lifetime warranty on the frame, I don't believe the second is much of a problem.
  • 1 0
 @Mac1987: Different brand, but I've experienced seat tubes on alloy frames marketed as enduro bikes breaking (right around the welds for linkages), and being told that was clearly not a manufacturing defect but must have resulted from abuse, and would I like to take them up on $200 off retail on a crash replacement. So color me a little cynical regarding warranties in the bike business.
  • 1 0
 @azureblue: and i'm saying the "heavy-ish" doesn't matter, because it's not about overloading the flexstay, it's about too many cycles. If there was any concern for the flexstays, it would apply for light riders as well, not like being lighter means the suspension moves significantly less, if it's dialed.
  • 2 1
 Heavy frame even without a rear pivot or dual link, heavy even without a dual can rear shock. Heavy with only 130mm of squish. To top it all off, cable tourism.

I’m sure this is a perfectly fine bike, without the context of any other mountain bike.
  • 2 1
 I want to state here that IF I was in the market for a new bike, and IF I could get a Merida here in the USA I would be looking hard at them.
Now this one isn't quite matching the deals from Polygon or Marin for the component spec, but it looks like a great bike. And using a flex-stay is brilliant due to reducing bearings. Well done Merida!

And I do ALL my own wrenching, all my own maintenance and I don't care a bit if it has headset routing. Doesn't bother me a bit as riding here in northwest Washington state I am in the rain regularly and after two years I only just had to service my headset bearings. Not replace, just clean and regrease. And that came with a full bike service; suspension, brakes, check all bearings so it wouldn't be a problem to bleed the brakes to remove the headset bearings.

And as someone that runs their brakes moto style it would mean cleaner routing for me.

Nice work Merida, just swap to 10 speed LinkGlyde and it'll be golden.
  • 2 1
 Try a headset topcap with holes in it and let us know how you get on
  • 3 0
 Does anyone else see the similarity between every new Merida and Rocky Mountain? Maybe I'm just seeing things wrong.
  • 2 0
 Your seeing things wrong. For one, no cable tourism on any Rocky bikes. The Element is probably closest to the one-twenty, and it is lighter with better geo.
  • 1 0
 @nnowak: To me the frames look very similar, but you do make valid points. Fair play to you, sir.
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 Nothing on that thing needs a battery...is it even a bike???
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 Fully wireless
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 Having resurrected some "older" bikes, I am not touching any frame that won't readily accept an angle headset.
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 "Combined with the extra force from the frame flex, this makes the frame quite resistant to bottoming out. " How does frame flex add to bottom out resistance?
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 Flex-stays take effort to flex, hence the frame acts as a spring within it's own system. It could be designed to where the flex occurs deeper in the stroke than earlier, therefore allowing for better bottom-out resistance.
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 The idea that a small amount of flex at chain-stay would dissipate energy that would otherwise be leveraged into shock motion seems theoretically valid… I have difficulty believing it could be perceived. For someone sensitive enough to feel such things - I would hope they also might comment on the irregularities they perceive in their shock displacement - as “flexing” aluminum is essentially undamped spring and should act both ways
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 @FlexWillard: and the spring uses damping designed just for that, as noted in the article.
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 @BarryWalstead: yes, the air spring uses a “broad stroke” progressive rebound curve. I don’t believe a spring could ever be tuned to effectively isolate and counteract an effect as erratic as a bending rear triangle. The more I think about it the stranger it seems- The length between the rear axle and the shock would actually shorten as the seat stay bends- pulling the shock out of its travel (fine).Then on recoil, would contribute to a compression of the shock (strange).
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 @BarryWalstead: but again we are probably talking a couple of mm. So still skeptical any of this is does anything in this application
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 @BarryWalstead: but did he take the frame apart to be sure that the relaxed position of the seat stays aligns with full extension? It could be the case that the stays are more relaxed at full travel - maybe they'd build it that way so that when stress from compressing the suspension is at its maximum, stress from flex is minimal. Anyhow, I'm just being pedantic really... it just seemed like an odd thing to say. Would be good if Sed took the shock out and tried moving the swing arm - get a feel for how much force the flex really adds. I bet you a cup of tea at my place that the suspension would compress fully under the static weight of the bike. Smile
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 Merida One-Twenty - A Mountain Bike for Mountain Bikers.
As opposed to what? "Merida 120- A mountain bike for bobsledders?"
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 It's clearly not for dentists
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 Really good range of sizes, shame about the 66deg head angle (and the headset cabling obvs)
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 2 Merida rides in such a short space of time, makes me think they'll be sponsoring the next season of PBA
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 Not sure they will. They really have not point in going deep into a project that relies heavily on American viewership as they have a deal with Specialized (which they own) not to sell bikes in America.
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 After looking at the header image and reading the price range, I thought he was riding the lowest spec. Almost €4k for a Pike Select, NX and DB8s is hilarious.
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 THE Merida ONE-TWENTY with ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY MM IF SUSPENSION AT BOTH ENDS....
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 Underpromise overdeliver?
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 Oh hi, looks nice! Wait, super short chainstays on the big sizes and cables through headset. That's a no for me, dawg.
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 Is it my imagination or there have been quite a few preproduction bikes or products being tested lately? Test and post what we can buy. Anyway,
Merida's seem rad. Bummer they're not available here in the States.
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 Or get a carbon fibre neuron with xt drivetrain for same price
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 It's almost like parts of the industry have not noticed the post Covid slowdown and the crapton of very recent model bikes being sold off at big discounts...
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 Called a 120 but 130 front and rear, wonder if they're hoping people says it feels like it has more travel
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 Also, NX and top spec should never be used in the same sentence without the word 'isn't'.
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 I don't know why but I find Merida as a brand about as interesting as doing my taxes.
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 So about the mech hanger. If you break it on the trail and have a spare, where do you stash your spare mech?
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 I concur with many others on this thread holy heavy 130mm bike! My enduro bike doesn't weight this much. lol
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 Looks like a bike a lot of people could love , headset cable make it a bike a lot of people could hate. I'd buy one.
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 Looks like a hei hei
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 15kg? Oof.
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 130 rear is too much to be considered Downcountry anyway, imo DC is 120 max.
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 _________ a mountain bike for road riders…
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 Looks like a Kona Hei Hei
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 @lewiscraik: I wonder if the extra 10mm is based on stay flex?
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 @tipsword:

That’s not what they mean by flex-stays
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 @Stumpclumper: (cause I'm old and have a thick skull) ~ the seat stays aren't flexing?

"the aluminum seat stay does flex by a significant amount as the One-Twenty's suspension compresses"
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 @tipsword: Like, to cycle the suspension, the seat stays flex a tiny bit up and down. Same movement there would be if there was a bearing pivot near the rear axle.

The seatstay is not bowing like an archer’s bow, sproing-ing additional travel.
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 @Stumpclumper: Thank you ~ hadn't considered the lack of rebound control if those were actually suspension.
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 66° is too steep.
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 Not for a 130 trail bike IMO
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 Why
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 the z2 is the suspension equivalent of sx drivetrain. rubbish.
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 why is it so bad? I read a few reviews, and it seemed fairly decent... maybe depending on your style of riding?
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 Still better than the cable routing
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 @saladdodger: it's not bad by itself, it's just basic. but the worst part you can't upgrade it to grip or grip2, so you stuck with this basic damper forever.
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 Still better than motion control
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 @saladdodger: A lot of them had the bushes self-destruct almost immediately. They're probably fine now... Probably?
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 @saladdodger: horrible bushings play. It's a sausage. Google this issue and you'll read so many negative experiences about this fork. The Z1 doesn't seem to have this problem though.
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 It's on bikes priced the same as having RockShox Gold 35s though. I chose the Z2
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 @lightone: the damper is okay, but it has tinytiny bushings, and the casting is so basic you couldnt even fit a f34 one in it. rs35 is no different tho, these are department store level things, shouldnt be speced on bikes like these.
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 @danstonQ: yea the z1 is a f36. z2's 10mm tall bushings are a joke, and no foam ring there.
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 I like simple forks that work (like the grip), so I tried a Z2. It's adequate. Many riders would be happy with it. Takes care of mid to big hits. Not great with smaller bumps. In other words, you could do a lot worst. I could live with it if I had to.
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 I will never buy a mountain bike with flex-stays. Sorry, guys.
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 So you'll never by a coil shock or fork? Replaced the springs in your car with airbags? Removed the sway-bars? All the same thing: designed to flex.
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 @justinfoil: 'designed to flex' - and also they wear out. I'm not saying I expect every mountain bike to last a decade, but if I find one I really love, I want the option of keeping it running longterm. Flex-stays seem fundamentally designed to make the frame disposable.

And there are designs that use bearings, so why would I want to deal with that as an issue?
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 I was just about to post to say that the aluminium flex stays worried me.

Carbon I could live with but an aluminium spring?
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 @justinfoil: Why do you think the flex stay will wear out and more than other section of any other frame?
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 @justinfoil: he could certainly say he’ll never buy a bike with an aluminum spring
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 Not gonna lie dude, that is a very weird hill to die on. Because from a material science perspective, the strategic implementation of compliance into mechanisms made out of aluminium is totally fine. You could shred the crap outte this frame day in day out for years and it realistically won't fatigue to the point where you would even notice anything, let alone a point of critical loss of structural integrity. The forces that occur just aren't high enough. Also, most alloy frames break because of singular and isolated overloading events, not because of material fatigue. But you do you I guess.
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 @BarneyStinson: Judging by the hard facts of material science alone, you should actually be more worried about the longevity of flex pivots on a carbon frame than on an aluminium one.
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 @Muscovir: There have been engineers on pinkbike that have directly contradicted what you're saying here.

Material fatigue is a real issue that could very well cause a bike designed around flex stays to become obsolete more quickly than one using pivot bearings, assuming they're ridden a similar amount and maintained correctly.
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 Flex Stays are the one area where it seems worthwhile to use carbon or steel. That being said, there are many applications of carbon and aluminum where a product is designed with flex in mind and they are subjected to millions of cycles without failure - see commercial airline wings. Perhaps the one difference is that the resin surrounding carbon fiber does start to break down, and can be susceptible to UV damage over time, where as aluminum will not. At least with metal however you can take it to the local scrap yard when it fails...where a carbon frame will end up in the landfil.
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 There is absolutely nothing wrong with flex stays, and they can be designed to have a theoretically infinite life.... as long as they are not made from aluminum.
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 @PHeller: except commercial airline wings aren't made using 6061 or 7050 aluminium, have an internal support structure, and modern planes often use carbon fiber structures in the wings.
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 Normally I'd agree, but with an enduro rating and lifetime frame warranty, I don't see much of a problem with it to be honest.
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 @AndrewFleming: I don't. I'm saying we deal everyday with many things made to flex, and it's NBD.
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 @justinfoil: Sorry, meant the other guy @jayacheess
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 Totally agree with you
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 I'm super envious of the amount of riding you do, for fatigue in the seat stays to be considered a longevity issue.







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