5 Interesting Bikes For Sale on the Pinkbike Buy&Sell - What Do You Think?

Apr 30, 2021 at 9:41
by Henry Quinney  
Art by Taj Mihelich

Summer is just around the corner and a lot of trails are running as good as they'll ever be. It's a good time of year to be a mountain biker in the Northern Hemisphere.

The Pinkbike Buy&Sell section is full of everything from balance bikes to race-ready rigs, and this week I'll be taking a peek to find a mixture of both interesting or sensible bikes for your viewing, and potentially buying pleasure. I've also listened to you in that you should decide whether something is Sensible, Interesting, or just not your cup of tea entirely. So, I've found some bikes and will make my case as to what I think they are and you can vote to see if you agree with me.

Disclaimer, this is a personal and subjective list, and also one that I don't really take price into account, but it would be great to hear your thoughts and ideas. Believe it or not, I don't actually consider myself to be infallible, however strong my opinions on cable routing may be. Shocking, I know. Maybe that's a bad example, as it's something I'm very obviously 100% correct about, but you get the picture.

There are many great bikes on the Buy&Sell and I can only feature so many. If you go looking, I have no doubts that you'll find your own stable of drool-worthy bikes but all I can say is that this is mine.

Ladies and gentlemen, if you please, here are my 5 selections.




For Sale: 2018 Antidote Darkmatter
Price: $6,750 USD
Size: L
Location: Bremerton, United States
View Buy&Sell Listing


The Antidote is a bike I have always had a soft spot for. I always considered them exotic and desirable. When I saw Reece Potter's in Queenstown in 2017 I thought that was my one brief sighting in the wild. A week later, at the Lourdes World Cup, I saw another and being the fanboy that I am I couldn't believe my luck. I flew back to the UK, went for a ride the day after landing and I saw another one in the Forest of Dean! It was this strange period where these incredibly rare bikes seemed to be springing out of nowhere.

The person riding the bike in the forest was Steve Jones, then of Dirt Mag. We chatted about the bike and how impressed he was with it. I thought he seemed particularly verbose because the bike and its designer were right there in front of him. It was only working with Steve later on down the line that I realized that it wasn't that - he genuinely considered the bike to be something exceptional. I've always really respected and admired Wildman Jones and since then my soft spot for the Darkmatter has got considerably softer. I'd love to ride one someday if ever I get the chance.

The Darkmatter's Kevlar and Vectran-reinforced carbon is hand laid in Poland, the bottom bracket junction is a work of art and the hull-like downtube is there to make sure rocks glance off, as opposed to hitting squarely. There are so many great fine details about these bikes. The closer you look, the better it gets. I think it's one of the few bikes that really does land in that "hyperbike" territory and it still looks amazing today.

Verdict - Interesting

What do you think?

Is this an Antidote to all your ills?






For Sale: 2019 Sant Cruz V10 29
Price: $6100 USD
Size: XL
Location: Mission Viejo, United States
View Buy&Sell Listing


It's hard for me to say in a blanket statement whether or not a brand is worth the money they charge, or if they're good value. What you cherish is going to be different from the next rider. Some people are very spec-driven and would take a full XT groupset thrown on to a farm gate at a reasonable price and be grateful. Bikes are a funny thing in that most bikes work and one bicycle is no more or less of a bicycle compared to a cheaper alternative. It will still roll down the hill and the suspension will still move up and down in a similar-ish fashion. It's often when living with a bike that you get a greater appreciation of quality rather than your first ride off the shop floor.

As a mechanic, some brands would come into the store and you wouldn't want to touch them with a barge pole... held by Inspector Gadget's retractable arms... through a nuclear grade protection shield... in another room. Santa Cruz was never on that list and I always found them to be well put together. If I were to buy a bike second hand, I'd probably go for a brand that was at least associated with quality to begin with and stay well away from the aforementioned farm gates.

The V-10 has travel-a-plenty at 215mm, adjustable chainstay, and the spec on this is reassuringly level headed; Hope hubs on DT rims, Shimano drivetrain and Fox suspension. The carbon cranks are a little racey for some but it wouldn't bother me one bit.

Verdict - Sensible

What do you think?

Would you Cruz this as your bike? (Sorry, that was bad).






For Sale: 2021 Trek Slash 9.9
Price: $7,500 USD
Size: L
Location: Park City, United States
View Buy&Sell Listing


If Trek were a family member, they wouldn't be the cousin who got their stomach pumped at 15 from drinking a bottle of tequila or the aunt that is an advocate of medicinal cannabis, but rather the in-law who you wouldn't mind being sat next to at a table-planned wedding. They'd tell you about their steady job, their stable relationship with well-defined boundaries and give you some really rather excellent advice on your pension, all in a friendly and affable tone.

That's not to say their bikes aren't exciting, as I'm sure they are, especially with models like the new Slash, but I think the whole point of them and the place they occupy in my mind is that they're not meant to be wild and untamed but rather "we know what we're doing, and we do it well." Sensible bikes that look great and manage to bridge the gap to desirable. The Slash even comes with a storage compartment, for tequila minis or whatever else you have in mind.

The 2021 Slash might share some aesthetic similarities with its predecessor but it's a very different bike. The bike underwent the longer/slacker treatment and features a 64-degree head angle and a roomy 486mm of reach in a large. It's also got a well-rounded spec with a RockShox and SRAM mix. I'm a big fan of the XO1 Eagle drivetrain for an enduro bike. I remember, years ago, thinking "Will I ever use a 50T?" It turns out, yes, and rather a lot. Code RSCs and the Zeb only enhance its do-it-all credentials.

Verdict - Sensible

What do you think?

Trektacular!?!






For Sale: 2019 Guerrilla Gravity Smash
Price: $4,500 USD
Size: Size 3
Location: Atlanta, United States
View Buy&Sell Listing


Pragmatic bikes, to me, are like crème fraîche to a Masterchef hopeful. So what makes a bike pragmatic? Well, to begin with it should have helped itself with geometry that was already slightly ahead of the curve. This is the most valuable type of future-proofing. Gimmicks and standards will come and go but if the bike's geometry is bad then it's a non-starter. Secondly, having real adjustment a big bonus. I'm not a fan of flip chips, I'm talking real adjustment. That could be chainstay adjustment, head angle or reach adjustment from stock, or a degree of adjustment to the feel of the suspension. The Smash ticks two of those boxes so far and I haven't even mentioned the modular design platform.

The modular design means that you can change certain parts of the frame, such as the linkage and shock, to achieve a very different bike. In Guerilla Gravity's case they sell "Seatstay Tuning Kits" to usher you bike through different intentions. I'm not saying it's particularly cheap but I do think it is a very sensible approach.

The size 3 frame, in its long orientation, has a 481mm reach combined with an effective seat tube angle of 77 degrees. The head angle, with a 160mm fork will be just a shade over 64 degrees. The spec, again, is simple yet effective although I might be tempted to put a 203mm rotor on the front and keep the one I take off as a spare. Apart from that, it looks absolutely read to rip.

Verdict - Sensible

What do you think?

Looks smashing, no?






For Sale: 1992 Klein Attitude HLF
Price: $2,800 USD
Size: 17"
Location: Nevada City, United States
View Buy&Sell Listing


Hold your hats, we've got a live one.

Klein's iconic two-tone paintwork is synonymous with the brand. Unlike similar stylings that you may see today, the execution on the Kleins meant that it really did look like two different bikes, depending on where you're standing. This bike goes from full blueberry, all the way through the spectrum of varying bouts of sunburn I suffered as a child in the fierce West Midlands heat, to a pink that really pops. As beautiful as this bike is, I have no shame in saying it's a little above my pay grade. So I spoke to PB's resident 90s expert, RC.

bigquotesWell, I identified all the items that they listed. The date is correct, and the parts are correct for the time. Bar ends are Control Tech, I believe. Pedals are Deore XT and would have toe clips installed. Mag 21 fork was the best you could get then (identifiable by the two-bolt crown). Total XC racing heritage. Check out the track style rear dropout... Stronger (pre replaceable hanger era), but nasty to get the rear wheel out for a mid-race repair. This is the perfect bike to illustrate the PB podcast we did about trends. The one piece bar/stem was a hit for Klein. Not so much for anyone else since. Klein Made a lot of money on fade paint jobs... lots of copycats resulted, but Taiwan manufacturers could not produce decent paint jobs at the time, so the imitations sucked. Klein also pioneered oversized headsets with the bearings pressed into the head tube, like we use today (Cannondale too).

Pressed in BB bearings too. A number of us did that to get larger bearings in there and to space them out farther on the shell.
RC

Can it be considered sensible? Well, that would be missing the point, surely. One thing is for sure, it's absolutely gorgeous.

Verdict - Very Interesting

What do you think?

Klein as a whistle. What do you think?






What'd I miss? Who's found a hidden gem? Can a vintage bike truly be sensible?


166 Comments

  • 163 2
 That klien is one smexy bike
  • 44 0
 The clear grips that the paint shows through are next level
  • 71 0
 I got all nostalgic for a second there then realized it was a Mag 21 fork and had some PTSD about my first mtb with the same fork. Want to keep the fork from bottoming out on everything? Just pump it up with a basketball needle until it doesn't move. Want it to actually absorb some bumps? Add a bit less air and blow through all 48mm of travel on every little thing. Want to find a sweet spot somewhere between those two extremes? No.
  • 17 0
 @mtallman2: I sent Oury a message on Insta requesting they made clear lock-ons. I loved the clear grips back in the day, I used to put stickers on my bar under the grips for that mad custom look lol
  • 24 0
 That Klein is old school gorgeous that has stood the test of time well, just like Michelle Pfeiffer.
  • 20 0
 That Klein is older than me, yet in much better shape than me.
  • 39 0
 Smoke and Dart tire combo, that was the sheet back in the 90's
  • 1 0
 @big-red: and wait for the cartridge to blow up. Best part
  • 3 1
 That Klein makes me fear for my dental work.
  • 35 3
 While it is clearly a '92, the Mag 21 didn't show up until '93.
The year correct fork would be the original Mag 20.

www.mtb-kataloge.de/Bikekataloge/PDF/Klein/Klein1992.pdf

I have no idea who that "RC" guy is, but he clearly knows nothing about vintage bikes.
He must think he is some cunning man to dick around with pb commenters.
  • 1 0
 @ebrown123:
Well said sista
  • 4 19
flag Saidrick (May 3, 2021 at 14:55) (Below Threshold)
 @ebrown123:

You do understand that the seller is the one calling it a mag 21? Also the seller mentions that the fork was painted to match the frame, which is not the same thing as being the original fork that came with the bike...

RC is Richard Cunningham, mtb hall of famer, former bike designer and editor of Mountain Bike Action...The dude is legend.
  • 2 1
 @ebrown123: It probably _is_ the stock Mag20, since they used a custom Mag20 with a 1-3/8" steerer (look at the girthy head tube on that thing). The Mag20 also had dual bolt crowns.
Of course, I am guessing, since we can't see the steerer diameter in the photo.
  • 1 0
 @enki: As the seller stated it is a Mag 21. The Mag 20 had a different crown and adjuster caps.

www.oldschoolracing.ch/archiv/rock-shox

zoom in on the pictures under 1991.
  • 3 1
 @Tormy: Kind of looks like the Minion DHF and DHR evolved from those.
  • 7 0
 @Tormy: Smoke was a good tire. Dart sucked ass.
  • 9 0
 @Saidrick:

Humor eludes you, eh?
  • 9 1
 the original dentist bike
  • 5 2
 @hllclmbr:

Nah, I thought he was serious by posting links to the catalogue. There are some people on this site who really don’t like RC, and are very vocal about it.

I thought he might be one them but, he is a more cunning man than me...
  • 6 0
 Kleins were like Ducatis, you were never sure if they were supposed to be ridden or f***ed.

The race dropouts were for a reason. If the QR came loose, the wheel was pulled in as your pedaled instead of out. Gary Klein was an old road race guy.
  • 1 0
 @Saidrick: no, she’s not.
  • 1 1
 The Mag 20 also had a more distinct shoulder in the casting at the top of the sliders from the small diameter lower end to the larger diameter top that accepted the oil and wiper seals. The Mag 21 had a smooth transition from the small diameter to the large.
  • 5 0
 Dangerholm from 30 years ago.
  • 3 0
 @makripper: pretty sure they were pre cartridge, still got a pair in the shed, Judy on the other hand, thay had cartridge and were, er, problematic.
  • 2 0
 @carym: my road bike(Storck) has track dropouts. such a PITA. lol. when you find quarky bikes with track dropouts, you 100% know the person that made it is an engineer kook. Germans and their infallible mechanical logic....
  • 1 0
 If you like older bicycles
  • 1 1
 Yes i think the Mags had a spring and a damper in each leg, but it was not a cartridge damper. The Judy was the first to use a cartridge damper... a crappy plastic one with no pressure compensator I seem to recall. They still had a spring (elastomer) in each leg. I seem to recall the Manitou TPC forks, those orange ones, were the first to have a spring on one side only and a damper on one side only. Mach 5 was it?
  • 2 0
 @jaame: Pretty sure you're right about both the Mag and the Mach 5. I remember thinking there was no way that the Manitou could work well since the combo of flex and spring-on-one-side design would just cause the legs to dive unevenly - making the sliders bind. I guess they knew better because it worked as well as anything else from the time.

Also, fun story from my mag 21s: there is no bolt on the bottom to keep the uppers and lowers together. Instead, there's a lock ring on top of the seal on each leg. To get them apart, you just deflate both sides, remove the lock ring, and pull. But pulling often enough so what you'd actually do is deflate, remove the lock ring, then start to inflate again until the air spring blew uppers and lowers apart. I put a dent in the wall of my student house once using that trick.
  • 2 0
 @Saidrick: You're all good. It takes a bigger "man" "tis" admit they missed a joke as oblique as it may have been. I was making fun of those that nitpick a tiny detail while missing the bigger one - including myself.
  • 4 0
 My thoughts: If I bought that Klein I’d have to hang it on a wall in my living room like a piece of art, so it would stay shiny, I wouldn’t put another scratch on it, and I could stare at it all the time.

Checks with wife: and, nope (with a couple f-bombs thrown in).
  • 2 0
 @big-red: Cut the plastic spacer in the lowers and extend travel to 60 mm. GAME ON.
  • 5 0
 Can't believe RC didn't mention the detailed internal cable routing done by Gary Klein or the over sized Gradient Aluminum tubing Klein bicycles were also famous for!

Their paintwork offered a large number of custom colours and patterns.The paint used was a Durethane enamel non-metallic paint that cost up to US$1,800 per gallon. The Klein logo was debossed into the frame by painting the frame in the colour of the logo, then applying a mask and painting the pattern. !

Such an incredible bike in their days. It's a shame the Trek Mofia pimped GK out of the US market!!
  • 2 1
 @likeittacky:

...and Gary Klein dumped the waste from his paint operation in the river behind his factory.
  • 1 5
flag likeittacky (May 4, 2021 at 9:36) (Below Threshold)
 @hllclmbr: Yea Riight the paint used was a Durethane enamel non-metallic paint that cost up to US$1,800 per gallon.

Source?? Your fake News! should be working for CNN!!
  • 1 2
 @likeittacky:

You sure seem to know a lot about Klein, but you’re unfamiliar with this?

Odd.
  • 1 3
 @hllclmbr: Questioning like a F.N. Journalist too and avoiding naming his source. LMAO
  • 1 0
 @Tmackstab: I love my Ourys. I hope they take on your suggestion because I have a load of stickers needing a place to be stuck.

Only problem with clear rubber is it tends to yellow.
  • 2 0
 @likeittacky: I love looking at my Klein Quantum road bike in sea to sky linear fade. 3 color fade not 2 like this one.

But that paint is super toxic and no longer sold because of that. Of course at the time it was perfectly fine. Kleins in trek era are busted on for the lame paint colors, but alot was because they couldnt keep doing what they had been doing to the paint toxins.

Trek Kleins are great ... they just stopped being innovative after the Mantra. Plus carbon bikes became cooler than Alu. Overseas made Alu bikes crushed US made due to cost. So the sales fell, but I dont think it would have mattered who owned them. There peak was the mid 90's, they where to focused on ridge bikes and didnt adapt soon enough. The Mantra came to late to the game and wasnt very good.
  • 2 1
 @likeittacky:

I’m under the impression that you think Trump was the best President, ever.

Am I incorrect?
  • 2 1
 @ExShopRat: Ahhh, the good ole days of beautiful toxic products; how they are missed!

Just don't eat the paint !!
  • 2 1
 @hllclmbr: Your still playing bad Journalist looking for smear; you guys are such slithery snakes! Hell bent on denigrating and dismantling of a Great Society. There is a special place for the likes thereof !
  • 2 1
 @likeittacky: yup. The toxins make the flavor! I felt guilt about the attitude, adroit I owned and the quantum I still own when that paint issue came out. But eating enough paint helps you forget about environmental impact.
  • 1 0
 @ExShopRat:

From what understand, there is no paint issue.

Can you expound on the said paint issue that you clearly recognize?
  • 1 0
 @ExShopRat: Attidude Race in Aztec Gold for me. So sick! not from the paint tho ha
  • 1 1
 @ExShopRat: ByPass on @hllclmbr Journalism questions he will construe and report erroneous information.
  • 1 0
 @likeittacky: Noted ... Plus I cant remember all the details any way. My friend was a sales rep for Klein and I sold them in a shop I managed in the 90's. My hazey memory remembers Klein got fined for the way they dealt with the paint waste or application if I remember correctly. It was either the paint itself was toxic or the process was, I forget the details. Either way the pre trek bikes and the early trek bike paints which where the best, where not environmently friendly. Klein moved to waterloo soon after but that was planned before the fine. The 3 color fades stopped with trek to save money. The two color fades stayed but where simpler, not the masked and blended fades of the earlier bikes.

Of course this looking back at 90's manufacturing. Bet lots of US bike manufacturing processes where not as eco friendly as they are now. I imagine EPA regs changed a bunch.
  • 2 0
 @jaame: Mags had air in both legs and no cartridge. Judy had first cartridge that I replaced with White Bros aftermarket piece and elastomers I also replaced with Speedsprings. White Bros unit held up fine but a Speedspring reparted my hair in a rock garden as it entered orbit.
  • 1 0
 @ebrown123: well played sir.
  • 92 12
 These are mostly just normal bikes I don't get what makes most of them interesting in the slightest?
  • 172 1
 They are available for immediate purchase?
  • 26 3
 The Klein is nice, the Darkmatter and the GG pretty boutique but normal, the others are definitely straight out of the catalogue. Missed a trick with the article I feel, or there is nothing interesting for sale at the moment.
  • 7 1
 That they're available for sale?
  • 4 0
 @mtallman2: exactly. That's a big bonus these days
  • 8 0
 “The Pinkbike Buy&Sell section is full of everything from balance bikes to race-ready rigs, and this week I'll be taking a peek to find a mixture of both interesting or sensible bikes.”

Seems like most people found the Klien and the Antidote interesting enough.
  • 1 0
 @paulskibum: There's always plenty of intrigue on any classifieds posting board. But only if you like getting spicy!
  • 2 0
 @TrevZ most of us have a proper 1st world problem I think. Nice bikes, 10y ago the would've been mega-super-duper.... and now they're not even "interesting"
  • 1 1
 Except of the last bike that is pretty interesting, the article looks like sponsored ad by sellers of the other expensive bikes
  • 1 0
 @stereo87: I hope you're wrong reg the sponsoring of the ads, but you're right about the 'interestingness' of the old skool bike
  • 70 3
 You may as well have said Trek only has missionary sex with the lights off
  • 28 0
 For the sole purpose of procreation, of course.
  • 8 0
 Sick fucks!!
  • 7 0
 And GG is covered in butter giving a pounding on the kitchen table.
  • 7 0
 A sex session
  • 10 0
 And the Klein is a guy with a mustache, a mullet, sunglasses and his socks on…
  • 2 0
 I'd much rather sit next to the bong-ripping, tequila-slamming cousin. It's the happy medium between the one droning on about their middle management role in accounting before airing their uncomfortable political views *ahem, trek*, and the coke snorting one picking a fight with the father of the bride who disappeared before the ceremony started *Sick*
I ride bikes for fun, there no time for boring, and bad ones just dont last.
  • 2 0
 @mikaeljc: I sold Kleins in the 90's .... I'd say more a of preppy with multiple popped collared shirts on.
  • 48 0
 Needs a Fair price vs Overpriced voting option.
  • 5 1
 I was looking for a 'yuck' button on the trek.
  • 1 0
 Yeah- I was confused as to whether the survey was about the bike itself being sensible or the asking price. I suppose in the current market any bike you can actually get your hands on is "sensible" but I think for a second hand (even if the first hand was a glancing feel and not a full clenched fist white water wristing) some of those prices feel aggressive even if they are nice bikes.
  • 28 0
 If I had more disposable cash I'd love to own that Klein. Take her out on Sundays for special rides where you just cruise for the simple enjoyment of it and appreciate a classic.
  • 27 0
 Username checks out
  • 1 0
 I think just add a "Yes, please!" option would work. Some may not be sensible or particularly interesting, but we would just love to own/ride it.
  • 28 1
 What in the hell is the guy thinking with the Slash?? That bike retails for $8000 and he's trying to get $7500 for it? And it been up for nearly two months. The guy gives Bluebook trade-in value to buyers jonsing for an immediate sell, then posts them up on PB for absurdly high used re-sale prices.
  • 14 1
 Dude you would be surprised by the used Trek market right now. I just watched some moron pay $800 bucks for a 2017 Marlin 5 (retail ~$500) the other day. People are dumb sometimes.
  • 11 0
 @TrekXCFactoryRacing: "sometimes" is the most understated way of saying "for all recorded history" that I've ever heard Wink
  • 4 0
 @blcpdx: So true. Anyone who thinks there's no such thing as a dumb question has clearly never worked at a bike shop. I love every customer I've interacted with but occasionally I think people should take advantage of the internet's vast knowledge.
  • 9 73
flag onemind123 (May 3, 2021 at 14:34) (Below Threshold)
 It's a good time for selling bikes Shops can't keep stuff in stock. People selling used are getting good returns. I bought the last 5 sights from my lbs, and resold them all privately making over 500 on each of em. Bike shop happy as I paid MSRP I am happy as I too can feed my family 5 people with new bikes are happy as they can ride as well.
  • 8 0
 It's the current model, and unless you find a shop with one on the floor you simply cannot get one of these in todays supply chain issues world.
  • 4 1
 @blum585: Funny, mine shipped Friday from Trek.
  • 37 5
 @onemind123: gotta love resellers defending their dirtbag ways by trying to make you feel guilty for their poor and starving families. The PS5 resellers say the same things. Capitalism bringing out the best in people as usual.
  • 3 35
flag onemind123 (May 3, 2021 at 16:06) (Below Threshold)
 @MegalodonMatt: but I am offering my customers free lifetime tune ups on their bikes
  • 2 0
 Buy now from that guy or wait over a year for a new one!
  • 3 1
 @onemind123: haha, well that's something. Who am I to judge anyways, I'm a semi-willing cog in the machine like everyone else...reselling in general has become an annoying prevalent practice since the pandemic shortages started though.
  • 14 1
 @onemind123: times are tough for ticket scalpers, huh?
  • 1 0
 @sloguy: But when was it ordered? I ordered one a couple weeks ago and it's slated delivery date is Jan of 2022...
  • 1 0
 @blum585: Want to buy a XL Slash GX in the grey/dark red color? Should have mine by end of week.
  • 1 0
 @sloguy: Need a Med and It's already been ordered. Thank You Though!
  • 18 0
 Can't go wrong with a V10. But that Antidote is next level nice.
  • 16 1
 The antidote is a really good looking bike. The red paint on raw carbon looks so sick.
  • 2 0
 If I needed a DH bike right now that is it for me!
  • 1 0
 @TrekXCFactoryRacing: Funny seeing it on here... I own the Antidote Lifeline that was his personal bike before building that Darkmatter. I'm happy riding an older frame at a fraction of the price lol

Absolutely agree though... the Darkmatter is gorgeous.
  • 13 0
 How was this not on there?! www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3033034
Gwins last YT!!
  • 4 0
 Ballsy move. Number right in add.

“r your arron gwin or do u now him?”
  • 1 0
 And the price really isnt as bad as I was expecting
  • 11 0
 That Klein was from the good old days when companies would add a 1/2 lb of paint to a 2 lb frame.
  • 10 0
 The Klein even has a Syncros post! Which was like the Thomson post of the day when Thomson posts were still desirable before droppers.
  • 9 0
 Who doesn't love an original Klein? We do need to see an Adroit next time though please.
  • 11 3
 The GG for me
  • 7 0
 That Klein, though. So good.
  • 5 0
 Until you ride it on anything other than a flat dirt trail, and realize how great even the weakest hydro disks and low end modern suspension is... Looks dead sexy tho.
  • 2 3
 @ReformedRoadie: weakest hydro disc brakes are so terrible i would much rather ride old canti’s any day even though they have their own host of issues. Old canti’s will last forever and fail predictably (in wet conditions) instead of blowing up unexpectedly and being completely untrustworthy when you might need them.
  • 3 1
 @OldDert: I dunno what kind of cheap discs you're running, but even the worst I've had are significantly better than any canti.
  • 2 2
 @Mngnt: when the going gets rough on long descents cheap hydraulic brakes are really unpredictable, IMO thats worse than universal weak performance
  • 4 1
 Bike sizing has come a looooong way in the right direction since that Klein. Bike paint has come a loooooooooong way too...just in the wrong direction. That thing is so cool! Way out of my price range unfortunately or I'd have bought it before it made this article.
  • 4 1
 Yes! More pretty paint, less black. Not that black doesn't look great with the proper matching components all the same color for that anodized bling-bling look... but more bright paint would be awesome.
  • 7 0
 That's a Klein that belongs on Seinfeld's wall!
  • 3 0
 Was his green, or sometimes red? And what happened to that Cannondale Killer V that was on the wall for like 5 minutes
  • 3 0
 First xc races in 92 on a Gary Fisher Supercaliber that was very similar to the Klein - flouro lemon all over. Thing is these were some of the first frames in oversized alu. and power transfer was king - the Supercaliber was an absolute hammer in the back and the Klein had a rep as the hardest of the arse kickers. Hit a 2 inch bump on one of these and the Flite saddle drove the shockwave right up to your eyeballs - or exploded the 1.5 tire (at 40 psi) or imploded the (18mm rim) wheel. Still remember the races with lines of guys beside the trail scratching their heads looking at random arrangements of spokes and rim where the wheel used to be. So buy the Klein to look at for sure, but ride off road at your peril - maybe just once at the Park to see how incredibly far we’ve come! One for the museum.
  • 7 2
 These thinly veiled "polls" really kinda make me wonder how much profiling info Pinkbike is collecting to sell to advertisers.
  • 7 0
 That V10 is my old bike . Guys selling it for more then he paid haha
  • 6 1
 man, that Klein. I feel like i need to go to confession after staring at that for so long.
  • 3 0
 You are absolved of your sins, my son. As penance you may view five Redalps, two Ellsworths, and one Huffy.
  • 5 0
 The shock on the GG looks like it has been deflated? Or a super short shock length?
  • 11 0
 It's a grower not a show'er
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 Yeah, it does look deflated and sitting halfway through the travel
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 @m-t-g: it's for that extra slack curb appeal.
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 RE: the Klein, missed opportunity to also use period Ringle skewers, love the Smoke/Dart combo despite being a Conti fan. I owned one of this vintage, requested it unpainted from the factory and had it sent to Curtlo to custom-paint. The result was pretty but less durable than Klein factory paint...that s#!+ is like dinosaur teeth!
  • 3 2
 the best part about the slash, the reason you dont own one is because you haven't tried one.
The new slash is the answer to everyones hates about "longer and slacker bikes are pigs on mellow trails" and "we need slacker, longer and lower bikes"
it weirdly covers everyone, the suspension design gives very little bob in open, can relax the compression for the fast/steep tech, can up it for mellow and flow/jump trails...
It can feel like an agile fun 29er but also be a monster truck.

Trek really nailed this bike
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 @mtbtrekracer:
Bias checks out?
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 @WoodenCrow: haha, still not my fav bike though, Recently picked up 2 marin's and they've been seriously good fun.
I Personally wasnt going to buy the new 21 slash as wasnt convinced trek got it right but i rode a friends and was sold lol.
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 @WoodenCrow: I'd say most people have some brand loyalty. Most people just don't hold it up to the fire like us! Everyone becomes biased for a reason though.....
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 I had a Klein P1 (Pinnacle in the US). Actually I had three. The first one came cracked at the seat post pinch bolt. The second one cracked at 8 months under the head tube downtube junction. The third one got sold pretty fast. Pretty crappy bikes so when you see an old one you know it hasn’t been ridden much. As a collectible though I understand the attraction but some people on the classic mtb sites think these were great bikes. And the ride them. Claim they ride like a dream. A nightmare is a dream too.
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 My 1990 Pinnacle has about 200,000 kms, including some touring and a couple XC races. I'd build it up if I felt like chasing weird parts.
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 I literally spit out my coffee laughing at those prices for USED bikes. GTFO !! Bahahahahahahhahahaaaaaaaaaa
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 That Klein makes me think I might should clean up my Cannondale Delta V1500 and put it on here for sale, especially with all the Ritchey components like the Force40 brakes. The XYZ bars were an impalement waiting to happen so I put some cool purple Club Roost bar ends on instead. Alas, the headshock blew out many years ago and Cannondale wouldn't fix it for me, or so said the shop I took it to...that location of Atlanta Cycling closed not much later, hmmmmm
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 can we sell maps to secret trails on here??

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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 I think it'd be great if you actually enforced your own BuySell rules (you know, the ones you actually wrote yourselves), rather than indulged the arseholes who routinely break them.
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 It's most likely heresy to say this, but someone should go all resto-mod on that Klein and put some oil slick pedals on it. No? Crickets?
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 I had a Klein back in those days. They were so stiff that they just wore you out on trail rides. I rode it for about a month and couldn’t get rid of quick enough. They were beautiful bikes, though.
  • 3 0
 Somehow pinkbike manages to get expensive bikes even in an article about used bikes.
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 That Turbo seat! Blast from the past!
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 Doesn't matter-- I'm watching Brandon's unclicked interview here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rncB849eguA
  • 3 0
 V-10 with a forty. REAL ORIGIONAL
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 Sweet paint job on that gravel bike.
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 its a 90's mtb not a gravel bike
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 @mior: It was a joke you plum.
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 You know what’s an interesting bike. I saw a Fezzari La Sal Peak for sale i think $4300 that thing is a deal.
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 Idk, I personally wouldn’t own one if they paid me $4300. Appearance isn’t everything but it looks like someone ran an old vp free into a carport. High, hunchback toptube and too much negative space in the front-end (grown person could fit through there) hurts my eyes. It looks like a catalog frame to me, one of the uglier ones at that.
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 You’re gonna get some bike shop employee busted for selling an EP bike too soon
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 The Klein is the only “interesting” bike
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 How is a current model year trek slash interesting?
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 Dude was just trying to dump his EP early on buy/sell and pinkbike puts it on blast
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 Need to have a look at Europe!!

www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2942335
  • 1 0
 Genuinely scrolled to the bottom of that page to see if it was Dangerholm or Kapfinger selling
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 How on earth did the bike I have for sale not make this list..?

These are just normal bikes.. haha
  • 5 4
 Guys, racing is back, you don't have to do these filler articles anymore
  • 3 1
 Rude they didn’t cover yesterday’s enduro races…
  • 1 0
 The stant in the second photo, LIKE A BOSS !
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 That GD rear dropout; nightmare wheel change.
  • 1 0
 Don't you open up that window Don't you let out that antidote
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 Been awhile since I've seen a Smoke and Dart tire combo!
  • 1 0
 “that you may seem today”???
  • 2 1
 that Klein is so under priced.
  • 1 0
 the two most sensible bikes already sold ha!
  • 1 0
 Hometown represent! Riding sucks. Don't come here.
  • 1 0
 The suspension on the antidote looks like a Wilson but with an idler
  • 1 0
 The Antidote Darkmatter all the way, damn that thing is sick. Big Grin \m/
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 Who in their right mind would pay $7500 for a used Trek...
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 WHERE TF IS THE M55 TERMINIUS
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 The Klein just makes me think of Pro-Flex stems!
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 Or stroke length I mean
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 old school FTW
  • 1 0
 That klein is so rad
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 That trek tho
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