Opinion: Mountain Bike Movies - Are You Still Stoked?

Oct 16, 2014 at 1:15
by Mike Levy  
Mike Levy

The latest mountain bike movies include insane riding, skilled camera work, and countless hours of editing that comes together to create a final product that is often equal parts art and sport, but the level of riding in them has reached the point where it's tough to relate to. I'd like to see the best in the world come together to make a mountain bike movie that has actual mountain biking in it, and I don't think that I'm the only one who'd be excited about that.


Mountain bike movies have come a hell of a long way from the days of Tread, the Kranked series, and even the early New World Disorder releases, and I'm not just talking about the shift from filming with a potato to the insanely expensive wunder-cameras of more recent times that can zoom in to catch a gnat scratching its balls at a glorious million frames per second or whatever they're up to now. The skill and courage of the riders in the latest movies has progressed to the point where one doesn't have to be a mountain biker to appreciate what they're doing, and the days of them just showing up and sending it for the camera have been replaced with shoots that are planned out well in advance.

We now have some of the best riders in the world pushing their personal limits and risking life and limb to do things that have never been done before. This often goes down in exotic and sometimes sketchy locales, all while being filmed by a camera that costs twenty times what the entire budget was for one of those 'old school' movies that first showed riders skidding down scree slopes. The internet gives me one-click access to the greatest mountain bike movies made, yet I still find myself bored by roughly the ten minute mark of any of the latest flicks. I mean absolutely zero disrespect to any of the riders or the people working hard behind the cameras, but it's just that none of the latest and greatest movies really get me stand-up excited about what's going on. Why is that? I believe it's because the things that today's top riders are doing are so insane, so mind blowing, that I can no longer relate to it, and it therefore inspires me to get out there about as much as watching the cooking channel has me running to the kitchen to whip up a batch of muffins. Likewise, I like to watch skilled freeriders send it, but what they're doing doesn't have me running for my bike.

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  I could spend hours watching Fairclough smash corners on his trail bike, even if that does make me sound like a bit of a stalker.


Don't get me wrong, seeing Semenuk or Zink spin off of a three-storey drop will always make my palms sweaty in a way that only one or two other things in this world can do, but I have zero issue admitting to anyone that it doesn't get me amped to build a lip on top of a thirty foot rock and give it a go for myself. That would end badly for me, of course, and I suspect that it would also end badly for about 99% of Pinkbike's audience although feel free to pipe up if I'm selling you short when it comes to doing 360s off of cliffs and I'll happily apologize. Having said that, the fact that 99% of us can't do the moves we see in the movies might not matter to most of you, especially if you tune into Pinkbike on a regular basis to see what's new. After all, I'm not about to say that riders tricking jumps that would make a lot of motocross guys grab a handful of brake is anything to take lightly, or that you shouldn't be inspired by it if that's what floats your boat, but I will put my neck out there and say that it has very little to do with how most of us mountain bike.

What's that? You have a downhill bike, some pads, and a few big jumps in your local forest? That sounds like a great time, but the truth of the matter is that you're in the minority when it comes to riding disciplines, with far more people simply wanting to put on their half shell helmet, some baggy shorts and worn out gloves, and take their regular mountain bike out for a rip in the woods. I think that it's these people, riders of greatly varying skill levels but who all love singletrack, that would really appreciate a movie that they can relate to. There's been a few well made 'edits' released over the years that cross off a lot of my points, with Aaron LaRocque's Rocky Mountain / Race Face short from 2009 being one that I can still watch and get stoked about to this day - I can't be the only one, can I? I'm going to feel awfully dumb if that's the case, but I don't think it is.


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I'm going to make a suggestion to the filmers out there: make a mountain bike movie that actually has mountain biking in it. Put the best riders in the world on their trail bikes and film them shredding a goddamn trail. Film them riding singletrack that we could all enjoy, but at a speed that makes us go ''holy shit, that guy is really moving!'' Film them drifting through corners, manualling for longer than seems possible, and generally have a blast on their bikes in much the same way most of us do, only better. These are things that relate to how a lot of mountain bikers ride, and it's something that I honestly believe even the most freeride-focused of riders could watch and get stoked about. I don't know; maybe I sound like an old codger who should move on to recumbents and helmet mirrors, or maybe I'm not the only one who would love to watch the best film makers in the world shoot the best riders in the world actually going for a mountain bike ride. I feel like that would be quite the combination, don't you?


278 Comments

  • + 139
 I agree completely. Not being a trick rider, I rarely ever watch the dirt jump segments with all the aerial action as I just can't ever see myself even attempting that stuff.
  • + 26
 What gersois excited is fast downhill and dust or loam with manualling , I prefer it to bikepark edits with huge tricks and bad whips ...
  • + 3
 Gets me *
  • + 17
 I don't have time to watch many videos and I find them too samey on the whole. I love it when videos have a story as well as insane skill. Road bike party and Imaginate were classics. I wish there was more to interest people who aren't necessarily big fans of bikes.
  • + 84
 Haha I'm just trying to imagine Brandon semenuk riding uphill
  • + 22
 I miss videos with variety. Remember the Collective films, they had trail, jumps, north shore, even trials. Mix it up. I get tired of guys just blasting bike parks, very boring to watch.
  • + 55
 Kirt Voreis' segment on NWD 10 is one of my favorites. On the ground just moving. No music. Just bike noise on dirt. Just the right amount of creative filming but still raw.
  • + 6
 Kirt is such a pleasure to watch, dude just rips.
  • + 12
 Yah im with SeaHag. Its kinda like If you've seen one dirt jump/slope edit you've seen them all.
  • + 4
 I love the adventure edits, for me it encompasses the true spirit of MTB. Extra points for bringing a fishing rod.
  • + 9
 I was a huge fan of the Clay Porter movies, Between the Tape, F1rst and 3 minute gaps. I love the documentary style, following my favorite racers throughout a season. I'm stoked on the new Steve Peat movie, Won't back down, it's the first movie in years that I'm excited about.
  • + 4
 Yeah I just skip over dirt jump segments. Really is boring to watch unless it's something real new or rampage style
  • + 4
 Hey Levy, FFwd to :20 just having fun riding a local trail, nothing else.
www.pinkbike.com/video/363873

+1 for Kurts NWD 10 Segment. That and the Vital RAW videos get me fired up!!
  • + 11
 vital's raw edits are great. i like the short edit format. i think the only time i'll sit to watch anything longer is world cup dh coverage
  • + 9
 Huh... I usually fast forward the trail riding segments to get to the dirt jump parts.. Corked 720 > "smashing a corner".. agree to disagree
  • + 3
 How many of us go for a ride with a bloody fishing rod in our backpack ?
I hear what this article is saying but I expect that after a short while these types of video would be even less inspiring.
  • + 7
 @A-smalls unless its a McDuff edit, then you never know what you might get. As for sheer entertainment value - one word - Silvia!
  • + 3
 And I thought it was just me.....
  • + 10
 truth be told, i'm so over watching the whistler bike park get smashed so hard i have moved that bike trip down the bucket list in favor of a trip somewhere else.
Best video I've seen all year? Danny Macaskills The Ridge. Give me some adventure!
  • + 5
 That's why I like Coastal Crew. They gave us peasant possibility to ride nice without doing corked 720.
  • + 43
 I can't bang sasha grey but That doesn't mean I don't wanna watch someone else do it. Same logic applies
  • + 14
 To British Peanut Butter: I'd be willing to bet Brandon Semenuk would destroy most challengers in any aspect of riding any sort of bicycle. I see him, Reece Wallace, Kenny Smith, Adam Billinghurst & all the boys riding trail bikes here in the Sea to Sky and they are fit as....

More on topic: I fully miss the dvd package, bonus features, directors commentaries all that!

-Cookie.
  • + 2
 Hell yes. Part of the reason the Earthed series was so awesome - besides tight editing, a complete lack of pretense, and good camerawork - is that it was just footage of riders doing the kind of stuff we all like to do, but way better than most of us. A parallel example in the snowboard world is Jake Blauvelt's doco/film Naturally. No stupid huge cheese wedges for nutcases to furiously gyrate on 15 different axes across gaps spanning four time zones in some location nobody else is ever going to go to, just one guy ripping awesome, realistic terrain better than most.

As cool as Rampage is, and as impressive as the recent freeride films are, most of that stuff just isn't relevant to me, and so if it isn't going to be some earth shatteringly insane display of crazy shit, I just don't care about it. The interwebs have become so saturated with video footage of everything imaginable that none of it holds my attention anymore unless it actually relates to me on a pretty direct level. A good example of that is this one www.pinkbike.com/news/Fresh-From-the-Barn-Kevin-Landry-in-Squamish-video-2013.html . The rider rips, but the stuff he's doing is just the stuff I like doing, except he's doing it better.
  • + 2
 The Ultramontane series on pinkbike was also really cool, with beautiful accompanying portfolio.
  • + 2
 That comment made my day lmfao
  • + 73
 I agree with you 100%. For months when Monday contes round I tend to scroll down the 'Movies list and only click on stuff with riders using single crown forks on lol which is kinda ridiculous.

The Dudes of Hazzard videos are great because they bring back the real feel of riding with your buddies. I personally don't watch any bike park vids anymore, once you've seen 100 amazing whips it gets old. Show me some amazing natural trails instead.

This generation is completely spoiled by the internet as a whole. The choice of FREE entertainment is endless. If there was less, or if it was paid for then we might appreciate it more.
  • + 37
 I'm a big fan of the Dudes of Hazzard videos for the same reason as you - they're just a bunch of guys having a good time, although they happen to be damn good on a bike. I like the lo-fi, casual feel to them.
  • + 17
 +1 of the dudes of hazard. They show what riding is all about.

This is Peaty also rates highly.

Even though these are two very different web edit series, they both share something very different than the usual dj movie - they show all aspects of riding and having fun.

I never think i get bored of watching race edits as well as they are always different because every race is different.
  • + 2
 anything from steel city media can be added to the dudes i think... that fun with your mates vibes, and the the fact that you can just tell that any of the bigger or more idiotic moves start with someone saying "I bet you can't"....
  • + 3
 I totally agree, the group edits such as the Dudes of Hazzard, S4P (Brendog, Reynolds, Wilkins etc.) and This is Peaty capture the spirit of the sport, which is having fun. Whilst I still sit there in awe at some of the highly edited slo-mo edits we see now they do tend to get a bit serious, I prefer to just watch Sprung instead.
  • + 3
 Dudes of Hazzard and This is Peaty are my favourite. I also enjoy the live coverage from WC circut. Sometimes I'm looking for helmets cams from trails that i plan to go to.
I'm not stocked anymore for bike tricks, but always checking the best three runs from FR contest :-)
From FR short movies - prefer the dynamic edits from North Shore trails or as Aggy's ride.
  • + 4
 @mikelevy I gotta ask, what did you think of Breath Easy? I'm not much of a dirt jumper but I found that it was pretty easy to watch, even if I couldn't "relate" to it. In part i think it was the cause behind it. But the riding was sick, and I love Matt's style
  • + 3
 The Shred Planet is where is at. It was fun, short, spontaneos, original, word stocked was never used and it had good riding. Is one of the only videos i could consider was trascendental after Seasons.
  • + 1
 My favorite MTB video of all time, Halfway to Nowhere, is my favorite precisely because it combines interesting filming with people ripping real trails.
  • + 1
 Yeah! The Dudes rock, they're my favorite videos to watch any time.
  • + 0
 I know Joe Barnes' riding before enduro.
  • + 2
 I love the 'This is Peaty" videos but man do they need to normalize the volume on those videos.
  • + 26
 Almost entirely agree, as seeing a fat 360 cliff drop doesn't make my palms sweaty Big Grin

I've been pretty let down by most videos I've seen in the past 6months or maybe even the past year. Even the Rampage this year didn't get me pumped. I was all ready with a few mates, beers in the fridge, pistachios on the table, but no, after 20 minutes, we all went back to talking crap and deciding how the world will turn.

Last one I really enjoyed was the latest from Danny McAskill, mainly because of the location, landscapes, nice music, and the riding that didn't seem completely coming from outerspace (it was still pretty darn good though).


And please, videomakers, stop using dubstep in ALL your videos. Use your imagination, pick something else, there are millions of musics you could pick from, so please, DO IT!
  • + 1
 Bang on
  • + 4
 agreed. especially the dubstep part. but I have to say, the tap-frontflip with a mountain bike over barbed wire was probably the most outerspace thing I recall seeing the last years... yeti's videos are good examples, these always encourage me to ride.
  • + 1
 One segment that always gets me pumped is from anthill strength in numbers with the World Cup riders. Where they're all talking about why they like to win and stuff. Idk that segment gets me Soo stoked
  • + 18
 Simply put, there is just too much FR videos running around and a lot less of others. I would certainly love to see more WC DH stuff. And Enduro, for all the hype generated recently, does not have a single segment, much less a full video, about it. The reason why I liked Strength in Numbers was that you saw perspectives from other disciplines of mountain biking.
  • + 4
 Yes. Bring back "Earthed" series with insights into the riders. Never gets old.
  • + 2
 I kind of disagree. Insights into the riders gets old for me, most movies since the collective have been that way...some personalities a great to look at but other ones are just nah...thats why i liked arrival so much...riders barely spoke or didnt even speak at all, this made the movie shorter than usual which imo it was good. We all know by now how stocked riders get while riding their bikes to the limit. Just my opinion.
  • + 1
 The On Track episodes show lots of EWS footage. That series makes me want to ride!
  • + 2
 Yes! More racing. The best are the edits put together by teams following their athletes through practice, quali, finals. Add a little drama, injury updates etc.
  • + 12
 Hi MIke, you make a lot of good points there that I can relate to. My fave movie of all time (if you don't count Empire Strikes Back of course) is Life Cycles. I haven't seen one in ages that makes me feel like Life Cycles does. I'm pretty sure I would get excited if Clay announced he was about to start working on a film like the one you're describing. However, currently, I'm really looking forward to the Digger movie even though I've only seen a really short trailer.
  • + 2
 Life Cycle is amazingly shot movie, but it doesn't push me to take off my pyjamas in 3 a.m. and put the helmet and gloves instead. I liked it, but mostly I do love movies that get me inspired to go for an immediate ride, no matter of time and weather.
  • + 10
 Fair comment. Perhaps I am more easily influenced that you? For example, My Wife does not allow me to watch Empire after 11pm anymore after the incident involving me having to explain why I challenged a Police Officer to a lightsaber duel.
  • + 2
 you cant ride at 3 am lol. You can do bulgarian split squats tho
  • + 4
 +1 on Life Cycles, that movie though pretentious at times, had my jaw on the floor from start to finish. Beautiful shots, fantastic(Though not absurd) riding, and immersive story made this my all time pick when it comes to action sports movies. Next on my list would be Art of Flight, the Horgasm a Love story, that movie is pure gold. But thats just my 2 cents..
  • + 2
 life cycles was the movie that made me start riding in the first place. its sooo good.
  • + 3
 Life Cycles and Art of Flight are incredible, two of my favourite works of cinematography for sure!
  • + 11
 Couldn't agree more, it's something I've noticed recently. All the skill and dedication these guys apply is astonishing, but I get more psyched to ride from a clip from the DH World Cups or the EWS than the more extreme stuff you refer to. I would like to see a mix though, not a big shift, because watching the likes of Semenuk and Lacondeguy ride is always going to be f****ng cool.
  • + 17
 Excellent call - the WC and EWS stuff gets me pumped.
  • + 4
 what gets me pumped is the Parkin bros edits from the DH world cup rounds - even if there's probably a bit too much super slo mo (although its always good to see Blenki's rear end flex about Smile )

What I miss is the Earthed series. I'd get the DVD as a xmas present on xmas day and watch it while everyone was fussing around me - happy dayz. I know those days will never return as we've now got amazing edits just a few hours after the loam has settled. The interspersed 4X footage also added to the experience (plus amazing earthed soundtracks)

I don't have the tech at home to watch web edits on my main tv so I'd happily buy a DVD round up say of the parkin brother's edits plus extras a la Earthed.

the last MTB DVD I bought was 3Focus which was like Earthed but perhaps soundtrack wasn't as good. Anyway, amazing round up of the 2008 season, Leihkonen and Brayton segments and a Crankworks section - what more could you want?
  • + 3
 fingerbangextreme knows what's up. His comment, that is.
  • + 10
 That first Remy Metailler Whistler video surely deserves video of the year. Ill never be able to ride half as good nor am I a big fan of park riding, but that edit still gets me pumped every time I watch it. Because it is not boring. It is simply great riding shoved right in your face. And thats the way it works.

It is simple: No one wants to see slow moving images with some slow song in the background and no bike/ambient noise. I think we can all agree on that. See theteamrobot.blogspot.de/2014/09/more-bad-music.html

The truth is: Less slowmo shots mean you need to shoot more footage overall. So its more work.for the film crew and the rider.

Or tell us a good story. Ha.ha. A good mountainbike story. Yeah right. Maybe Joey Schusler?

I love how Freeride entertainment proclaimed themselves as "game changers" although no one cares about their movies 2 weeks after release. Clay Porter said in an interview that hes basically the best (mtb)film guy in the world, I wont even comment on that. Its time for some teen with a dslr to think outside the box and show them what a game changer is. I dont have much hope for the big bike movies in the next few years.
  • + 3
 Less: taking yourself overly serious, trying to be Steven Spielberg, freeride flicks, slo-mo, generic electronic music, use of the words "stoked", "bro", "dude", "loam", "shred", "gnar(ly)".

More: fun.

Good examples: anything made by Alex Rankin, Tom Grundy web videos, most bmx videos, pretty much any skate video.
  • + 2
 Metallier's whistler video is off the chain, www.pinkbike.com/news/Whistler-Remy-Metailler-video-2013.html

Vital's RAW series from the WC, Parkin's WC action, Red Bull WC live racing, oh, and where the hell did Alex Rankin get off to?

Schusler's videos are as real as it gets, he speaks to the mountain bikers.

Levy - Wank to this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY7ukuKPKt8
  • + 9
 Mike Levy, almost every MTB film that comes out has downhill or trail bike segments in it. Open your eyes. There isn't a mountain bike considered a "regular" mountain bike either. Just bedause you ride trails, doesnt mean thats everyones "regular" kind of mountain biking. This is one of the dumest article I've ever read on pinkbike.
  • + 5
 Agreed, articles like this seriously stun the progression of mountain biking.
  • + 13
 @Brett - I meant no offense with my words, although I can see how you'd not agree with me given that it's your profession that I'm talking about. People are always going to want to watch what you guys do, just like I'm going to watch Supercross even though I can't ride a dirt bike, the Dog Whisperer even though my dog is mostly feral, or the latest ski movie even though I hate snow - it's just rad to see people killing it at what they're good at. But the point that I'm trying to get across with my article is that there's room in the top tier movie world for more than just you guys sending it, and that many people want to see something that has more in common with how they see mountain biking, even if they'll never be as fast or smooth.

The slice of pie that represents those who own downhill or freeride rigs is absolutely minute compared to those who simply mountain bike, and while me using 'regular' to describe the average rider and his or her bike probably isn't super clear, I was referencing basically anyone who has a mountain bike that they ride up, down and around - that's got to be 95%+ of mountain bikers out there, despite what Pinkbike might make it look like. You're right when you say that ''bedause you ride trails, doesnt mean thats everyones 'regular' kind of mountain biking,'' but I'd argue that the very large majority of mountain bikers do exactly that. And judging by the 170+ comments on here that seem to mostly agree with my opinion, the majority of riders wouldn't mind seeing that type of action in a high-end movie.
  • + 13
 @Paul Genovese - I'm sincerely curious as to how my words ''stun the progression of mountain biking.'' I know that you, Brett and your friends are still going to go out there and push the limits of what's possible on a bike when it comes to tricks, style and amplitude, and that there will always be loads of people who want to watch the latest action flick of exactly that. If anything, my thoughts and the many readers who have commented on here that seem to agree with me might open up the eyes of film makers, pro riders, and the companies who make the top movies possible as to there being reason to produce more content of riders pushing the progression of mountain biking in a slightly different direction.

After all, you've got blinders on if you think ''the progression of mountain biking'' only happens on massive jumps and gaps. I want to see progression in other places - people like you riding a bike fast and with style in places that the average ride can relate to. There's nothing negative about that.
  • + 5
 It seems like a lot of people commenting on here agree with Mike Levy but if the majority of bike videos were trail riding it would become excrutiatingly mundane and boring. I want to see riders doing extraordinary stuff not just rolling around on singletrack that anybody can ride. If we use Mikes logic maybe we should take all the big cliff lines and huge tricks out of ski and snowboard movies and show people cruising groomers and tree runs like the rest of the masses. Don't get me wrong, I love trail riding, but I agree this is one of the dumbest articles ever on pinkbike.
  • + 1
 Who said anything about taking all the big and exciting stuff out of the movies? There's a place for the tricks and massive moves that make up 90% of all of the video content these days, and I'd agree that will continue to be the norm. I'm simply saying that there's a place for some kick ass footage of pro riders doing things that the general mountain biker can relate to.

The NWD-style will never go away, and I don't want it to, but I want to see something that I (and apparently most of these commenters as well) feel is more relevant.
  • + 3
 Just wanted to chime in: I think the reason this article rubs some people the wrong way is all this talk of "real" or "true" mountain biking, as if big mountain/freeride/slopestyle somehow isn't really biking.

The best thing about mtb is that everyone does it their own way! You know why WTTE is my favorite bike film? Because I relate to it! It actually is the type of terrain I ride on a regular basis (not as huge obviously), I just don't ride trails. Real biking for me is pushing both your limits, and the limits of what can be ridden.

This constant division and bickering between cycling disciplines has to stop.
  • + 4
 Shandrow and Rene Wildhaber's part in Not Bad...? That's about as top of the line as MTB films come and that was a huge trail section with no tricks.. go watch it, then go ride your bike.
  • + 3
 Just a thought here; but aren't most of these athletes creating these segments for themselves as much as they are for their fans? (maybe even more so for themselves) I've had the pleasure of working with Brett and he wanted his personal attributes to influence how the web video was shot, edited, music selection etc, all riders want this because it's their take on mountain biking. Granted a giant production company will be setting up these angles and storyboarding to create the best possible movie, but you're not going to put a slope style athlete on dumbed down slope course that the general public could ride. Hell, at Highland Bike Park the slope course is open to the general public and they used to hold a contest on the same course, so I think you're maybe missing the point that the general public can't relate to it, they may not be able to relate to the tricks these athletes are doing, or the "only for film built trail" but I guarantee if you had a chance to eye up these trails you'd relate to what these guys are doing very quickly.

This article isn't the stupidest thing I've seen on here, but it's definitely not the smartest thing either. The way I see it, these athletes are creating these segments and web videos for themselves to look back on when their career over because lets face it, careers are generally pretty short....so why not go out and send a corked 720 or build a hidden trail with massive gaps and transfers, because I know if I were Brett, Paul, Brandon...whoever I'd be looking back in my mid 40s saying "hell yeah, I did that".
  • - 4
flag Royal28 (Oct 16, 2014 at 17:21) (Below Threshold)
 I agree completely with the films being an extension of the rider; I'm sure Bryceland has a laugh watching the final edits of 'This Is Peaty', but I bet he's a hundred times more proud when watching his Leogang and Windham runs from this year.

I don't think @mikelevy has much of a leg to stand on when he claims he's got comments here agreeing with his opinion - let's critically examine those comments. We've got 42 year old SeaHag, 41 year old yerbikesux, 44 year old fullbug, 38 year old old-man-eggy, 38 year old sourmix, agreeing with him - granted, a couple 26 year olds in there too, but on the whole I think the agreement in these comments is mostly coming from older riders.

I may catch a lot of flak for this opinion, but I think many older riders like these guys agreeing with Mike are happy to ride at whatever their current level is and not worry about progression; I understand that, these guys probably have jobs, families, etc., and don't want to deal with the bumps and bruises that comes hand in hand with pushing their own personal envelope. That 'current level' for many of those guys probably is riding 5 inch bikes on trails no more difficult than the 2009 LaRocque edit, so maybe these guys do struggle to comprehend how amazing some of the FMB/freeride stuff is.
  • + 0
 On the other hand, speaking as a 21 year old, when I see these guys like Paul, Brett, and many others riding at a level I can't even begin to comprehend, each and every time I think to myself that these guys started out like everyone else, and through hard work and dedication they took advantage of their talent and got to where they are today. That thought alone gets me out the door and on my bike; the thought that I can progress just like these guys - maybe never even close to their level, but progression nonetheless. The same goes for watching top level downhill; it's way beyond the realm of where I'll ever ride, but I still want to get out and rip every time I see those guys hauling.

I don't think Mike is going to step up and huck the Hafjell road gap any time soon, so how is it that he claims 'the WC stuff gets me pumped [to ride]' whereas watching Zink at Rampage doesn't?
  • + 5
 @mechanicaleyemedia - That's certainly a legitimate question, and I could understand a rider wanting to show what he's best at. I know that the percentage of riders who ride a slope style course has to be just slightly above zero in the grand scheme of things, though. Mountain biking is a hell of a lot bigger than what we see on Pinkbike.

@Royal28 - Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm personally not happy to ride at my current level, and I'm always looking to improve in some manner or another, as are the rest of us. And having been to a bunch of slope comps, ridden with some of the guys in them (not at them, obviously), and seen the progression from the mid-90s to now, I very much appreciate what they can do. But you missed my main point: I don't want to watch Joe Blow with a job and family riding a trail bike, I want to see the best riders in the world pinning it in a setting that is more familiar to the average biker.

I don't want NWD style films to ever go away, I'm just asking for more riding that we can relate to. As for your WC reference, I can appreciate how fast they go and the lines that they take, something that has much more in common with the average guy on his DH bike than what goes down at Rampage. And I'm sure I'd case the hell out of the Hafjell road gap Wink
  • + 2
 Fair enough @mikelevy - I can't see how the common rider hitting the GLC drop versus a pro hitting a Rampage stepdown is any bigger of a gulf than the common rider trundling through a rock garden vs a WC rider gapping through it.

I wouldn't personally be inspired by watching Brett slap a garden variety berm or pull a manual that thousands of other riders could, when he is capable of doing things on a mountain bike that a single-digit number of people in the world can do, but maybe that's not the case for you.
  • + 7
 It's interesting reading through the comments here and see how people interpret what was written the way they want to regardless of what was actually said.

Like someone above commented:

"I think the reason this article rubs some people the wrong way is all this talk of "real" or "true" mountain biking".

Even going so far as to put the words real and true in quotes, but I don't think Levy mentioned either of those things at all.

And below another commenter deduced from the article that Levy wants to watch videos of 'Joe blow riding enduro'. Which if you read the piece is just absurd.

I mean agree with the opinion or don't, but at least read it and evaluate it fairly.
  • + 1
 @mikelevy I totally understand that MTB is much bigger than what we see, I was just pointing out one subculture of MTB and how I feel fans may possibly relate. Thanks for the response and keep the articles coming.
  • + 5
 Disappointing reply from the pro kids,
"dumest" article?,
it "stuns" progress?

Levy never said he wanted rampage type stuff to go away. Neither do I even though I will never in my lifetime ride anything remotely close to that stuff. I think that even if rampage or slopestyle went away, it wouldn't matter in the greater scheme of things. Because people will always get on their bikes and ride up the mountain and down again. In my opinion that is what matters for most of us.
  • - 2
 Well I certainly lost some interest in the Brett Rheeder segments after finding out he likes to troll pinkbike articles.
  • + 0
 I'm gonna go with Mike Levy on this one. I enjoy the big mountain riding and the trick riding and big stuff in bike movies, gets me stoked to try something I probably shouldn't try. But I WOULD like to see something I can relate to more in a big film. Something that gets me pumped to go out there and hit a good, normal trail and shred it abnormally good...! Hopefully as time goes on I can relate to the big stuff better, but man there needs to be all levels of biking movies!!! Not just jaw droppers...
  • + 8
 Maybe there will be very much thumbs down, but I absolutely do not agree with you sir. Love watching short (1-3 minutes) one rider freeride/slopestyle/dirt jump edits. Just short, minimal form; without cooking breakfast, or waking up in the morning. Sorry, not my point of interest.
For long movies the NWD format is IMO the best ever invented.
  • + 7
 It's funny, when I watched life cycles, I actually got bored. Even though I appreciated everything about it. It was beautifully shot, the riding was mint. Nice locales. But it just bored me. It was like watching Star Wars. I would love to be a Jedi knight. But if I start swinging a plastic light sabre around and trying to pick my coffee mug up with my mind, I'd probably get sectioned. So now I only watch proper adventure films.

This one being my favourite... vimeo.com/67042197

Just some average guys on hard tails but on a mission. Half the film they seem to be touring but it still keeps my interest.
  • + 7
 If Semenuk is in it, I am watching. Call me a fan boy. I don't give a shit. That mother f*cker makes shit look like art.

That being said. I also prefer the non dirt jumping segments. One of my favorite riding scenes is in "Not Bad" the Rude Rock Scene with Rene and Shandro

Where the Trail Ends is still probably my favorite. I'd love to see a sequel to that. Gimme some Coastal Crew movies to. I could watch old Norby all day.
  • + 7
 Brad Walton was just a dude in the woods with a camera and massive testicles, yet was able to draw you in to a moody ass world better than any videographer out there today. More of this: vimeo.com/35147555
  • + 3
 One of the gnarliest dudes out there.
  • + 1
 His skills are amazing, but there's something there in his work that I can relate to, even though I suck in comparison, that makes me want to push myself and try new lines. It's not overproduced, just an excellent eye for shots, and captures the essence of people riding bikes for fun.
  • + 0
 He's honestly someone who would make a good subject for a video section - skills for days, massive balls, and he does so much of it all alone in the bush! I don't know, it's characters that are interesting. Stories.
  • + 4
 this is an excellent write up, agree 100%. A segment that comes to mind is that of the 'Strength in Numbers', a film we're all very familiar with I'm sure, the cross country style trails segment in that still has me fast forwarding to that part of the beautifully crafted film.
  • + 4
 Dirt jump videos send me to sleep, so does all that slopestyle stuff - can't relate to it at all - it's way more acrobatics/circus than mountain bike riding.
I love watching digging/trailbuild videos, there's not half enough of them, in fact there's very few.
Loved that Riley McIntosh building section in Life Cycles & really looking forward to Secco's Builder film
Love all that rooty/loamy/misty/techy British Colombia/Washington State type filming
Love seeing durty fast roosty skids and drifts; Dean Tennant, Kovarik, Savage video's- Pat Norris, Reece Wallace, Brendan Howey, Chromag's Jinya Nishiwaki and the hardtail-killers - videos with those guys/producers are quite simply, the sh*t :-)
  • + 4
 Completely agree. The T-Mo diety vid from last week is a great example of this. A trail all of us could ride in some capacity, but ridden at proper race speed. That Bryceland fox ad that's been doing the rounds is also a great demonstration of what a pro looks like on a "normal" bike.

I don't personally watch any freeride stuff outside of Rampage, and even then I only usually watch the highlights. That's not a sleight on freeriders and slopestylers, I do appreciate how much skill is involved, it's just not my thing. Note to film makers, I'm also not that keen on "adventure film" cliches, coffee grinders, boat journeys etc. This stuff is free though, so we shouldn't complain too much!
  • + 2
 Came here to say this - the Bryceland vid was absolutely immense and doing FoD a few days after seeing Tracey Moseley absolutely smash it really brought home the gulf between numpties like me and pro riders.
  • + 4
 I would kill to see a film by Chris Akrigg, the chances are it would be all pretty much self done, maybe with the help of a few friends, what would be even more beautiful is the only drink sponsor in it would be Yorkshire Tea! This guy will ride anything and everything on anything and everything, and he'll also ride it exceedingly well... I'm not taking anything away from any rider who got any sort of MTB podium, but I dont think there are many riders out there who can match the diverse and various talents on two wheels of Akrigg
  • + 3
 Couldn't agree more! Watching Akrigg ride UPHILL in his movie "Five" was amazing! I spend a lot of time figuring out how to ride UP rocky trails, and seeing Akrigg nail it on a regular mountain bike was really an inspiration. The guy makes me want to try new ways of riding I hadn't even thought about before. A full-length film featuring him riding up and down various trails and using his phenomenal skill set would be fantastic!
  • + 5
 "today's top riders are doing are so insane, so mind blowing, that I can no longer relate to it"
no shit,i'm almost fifty,way past the age of learning this stuff,arthritic limbs dont't like crashing.
  • + 4
 This is probably the best article I've ever read on Pinkbike. Thank you Mike for the excellent work, and for shining the light back on the true spirt and passion of Mountain Biking. I can definitely associate with this, nothing better then having a good time with friends on your local trails. You are NOT alone in this one!
  • + 7
 @mikelevy you will be happy with our new trail video dropping next Tuesday...Single track shredding, Kamloops style.
  • + 2
 Looking forward to it!
  • + 6
 That Rocky edit has been one of my favourites for years, for the exact reason described.... gets me stoked to ride my bike every time.
  • + 1
 It has good aesthetics, well framed shots that aren't trying to hard to impress you. One of the things I've noticed in alot of action sports cinemetography in recent years has been the over use of dynamic shots, with dollys gimbles and cable cams being so accessible now.
  • + 4
 16mm for that cinematic effect even when not on slomo. Each rider gets a slo-mo, maybe 2 sec max or maybe a slo-mo segment just like crash segments. Reggae for soundtrack, some indie maybe, and acoustic instrumentals. One segment with no music, just ambient noises, profiles ratcheting, rider's heavy breathing? Get those flying gopros to chase a rider down between those trees instead of panning quickly and cutting to the next scene. More rider bloopers, less focusing on the rider looking at the scenery inside the van. Crew prepping their equipment. Limit the amount of the word "stoked" maybe 5 for the whole film. Shandro, Simmons, Tippie, Kovarik, Hunter, Vanderham for dh,fr,trails/singletrack segment. Soderstrom, Rheeder, Godziek, Zink, some locals for dj,slope,street.

Macaskill for part 2 of the film. He can say stoked as much as he wants.
  • + 3
 I miss the Ryan Leech segments from the collective films. I was really bummed when Macaskill didn't get to film with Anthill for that reason. I love Freeride but, its like metal. If you listen to it all the time it doesn't sound heavy or fast anymore. If you listen to Enya before Anal Cunt then it sounds even scarier and makes Enya sound more peaceful as well. I just want more variety. I don't want to exclude any riding I want to include it all. I like watching Tippie and Wade snowboard mixed in as well. It's not always the type of riding or sport that they are filming its the attitude. Riding is how I live life. Watching anyone living life to the fullest gets me amped to live more too.
  • + 1
 Yeah, would love to see Ryan Leech in a full video. His riding in the collective was the main reason I got into trials and eventually street. Aaron Chase segments in the disorder films including Lenosky. Lacondeguy's raw dj skills, rocking those 24s in Earthed 3? I guess what I'm trying to say is that most of the videos being released today are more like hour long ads.

I agree with you choppertank, it's like when listening to cannibal corpse I'm like "yeah that's gonna end with blast beats and out of tune solos" but when listening to meshuggah "oh sh*t, I lost count"
  • + 1
 If you want good example of mtb movie take a look at "Where The Trail Ends". Insane level of filmmaking, color grading, narration, places.
  • + 1
 Yeah I made the mistake of watching that with non MTB people who don't get it and it wasn't as cool as I was hoping even on a big HD screen. Andreu not landing the double and I think Zink not landing the front flip were a bit of a let down. I thought it was awesome seeing their determination but, the people I was with thought they were crazy. Will have to give that one a second watch sometime. Sorge tail whipping the big bike and just the immensely high production value and cool locations and insight into travelling were definitely highlights.
  • + 3
 My favorite bike edits are the ones I relive and play back in my head. The memories of people and trails, some gone and all respected.
Here's to...
The countless hours of single tracks, downhills and switch backs.
The hot sweaty days. The cold miserable nights. The all important post ride shower.
The camp fires, the makeshift tents. Sharing pizza and beer with strangers. Lending others company, parts or advice.
The lengthy drives. The seemingly impossible climbs. The death defying decents. Freezing lift rides.
Nature and passion.
There is far more to cycling than just bike park scenes and huge jumps I'll never ride (nor care to ride)

I feel like most bids are done by people who just want to show stunts. The Entertainers. Not by the blue collar guys who actually support and make up the sport. The brick and mortar.
  • + 3
 This is why a film like BUILDER will be so special, I think. It is a different approach than what is being done. It has a different focus, and pulls your interest to looking at what goes into the trail itself and the dedication it takes to even have a trail to ride. Then, the appreciation of the riders for what has been built for them to enjoy. Sounds like an awesome formula to me, and I personally can't wait for BUILDER! Anyone else?
  • + 3
 I really appreciate this kind of article coming from PinkBike. My friend and I had a variation on this topic as our "bar conversation" a few weeks ago and it raged and raged and Red Bull Rampaged. We were on the same side of the argument so it wasn't all that varied but it centered around the short shelf-life of watching an event like Rampage. It's something I get - the athleticism, the talent, the fact that these guys are taking insane risks on behalf of "advancing the sport" or whatever - but I just can't relate to it in any way. Call me stodgy, I guess, but I'll take loamy singletrack-porn, WC downhill tracks and raw North Shore goodness any day.
  • + 3
 Their's one name who makes me stoked every time by seeing him riding. -> MATT FU**ING HUNTER.
The way how he rides and enjoys every damn trail no matter if DH or Enduro , shows me what it's all about: Having fun with your friends on nice trails in a beautifull setting, thats about to take you out of everyday life to pure joy. to your way of life.
  • + 3
 I enjoy watching riders do insane tricks in exotic locales because it's more fun than watching some guy ride a trail. I want to see people do something amazing, not watch it and think "that's cool, that trail looks fun, I'm pretty sure I can do that"

Why would I want to watch people do something I can do, but only slightly better. It's like watching a porno where a guy with a 3 inch d#*k gets it on with a a 200lb girl with bad skin
  • + 3
 I agree. Recently I bought RAD COMPNAY movie and and it was awesome but i don't feel pump...when i was younger and watched some bike movies i was SUUUUPER PUMP mostly becouse of style and skills. I remember as I watched NWD 8 Fabien Barel youtu.be/xcolY03ceWI clip... This SPEED, STYLE and TECHNICAL RIDING > This is it !

Great Article !
  • + 3
 Disagree. The example video of great riding seems to be more about eating fish. There is too much accommodation towards "family" style trail building and now you want more video of it. I want to see the rider risking it, regardless of their skill level.
  • + 3
 Makes sense.

I miss the movies where riders in the woods riding a really rad line they built. There was a video on here awhile bike of a guy riding a trail he built that was full of classic ladders, drops etc. It felt like that trial was just above my skill level so it got me pumped to ride. Basically i looked at it and said, "If i got out and ride I can do that trail in no time."

Now it seems like the bigger budget flicks are full of heli/drone shots of some ride ripping down a big face. That's cool and all and must respect to the dudes that hike up that and shred down. Takes balls of steel no doubt .. but you never get a sense of scale and it feels like we're too far removed from the action. I bet it's a blast to do but it isn't so much to watch, for me anyway.

It is always hard to get stoked for a bike movie when they're released on iTunes right away.. don't get me wrong, the access is rad and i bet it makes a lot of sense for the film makers to try and recuperate their dough but I always got stoked when my local shop put on a "premiere" in town and NO ONE in the audience had ever seen the film. Now half the people have and the energy in the auditorium is completely subdued.

I am looking forward to Seccos new flick though.

www.pinkbike.com/news/builder-official-teaser.html
  • + 6
 Am I the only Brit who finds the word "stoked" odd.
For some reason I just don't feel natural saying it Smile
  • + 9
 Even if your name was Trent and you came from Stoke-On-Trent...?
  • + 4
 It's your age mate. There should be a age cut off point for Brits using the word. Our friends over the pond seem to get away with it for some reason at, any age. How about replacing it with 'spiffing', or 'super'?
  • + 2
 I'm currently being a trail called "jolly good fun" :-)
  • + 4
 I'm so spiffed about the next major video release.
  • + 5
 That's the spirit 'old bean'!
  • + 5
 I went through a phase a few years back... If I was at the top of an epic view before descending, I used to spout Shakespeare at the top of my voice. "Once more unto the breach dear friends, once more...." Or my other favourite "Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war". Powerful stuff to get you going. I might start doing it again haha
  • + 1
 Im 32 years old and I use the term stoked all the time, but then i surf and live by the beach in cornwall and work in the bike industry so I guess I see a lot of people who use the word and Im always around "stoked" people.

if we have a particularly good session on bikes boards or whatever, then we would use stoke on trent as the superlative "such a good session at the track tonight mate, Im stoked" "yep loamy goodness man! stoke on trent!"

But then I probably overuse the terms rad and sick too I guess these terms start of in a half ironic/tongue in cheek way and then migrate into the daily lexicon.

On the subject of bike vids I much prefer just mountain bike videos, Vast and Virtuous are still two of my faves and I much prefer the adventure style edits and stuff like the dudes of hazard edits to the buck and trick filled bro fests. I Kind of feel like we're all bombarded with these big budget cinematic epics about these superhuman guys that inhabit planet rampage that it desensitises us to the big stuff. Cam zink's 100ft flip is a prime example it didn't look that big or impressive because we're all just used to seeing that stuff

Personally I want to watch stuff that inspires me to go out and have fun with my mates, rather than making me think "Im never going to be able to ride like that but I do NEEEEEED a new bike" thats not what bikes should be about as far as Im concerned more focus on fun and less triple ferit whips.

Personally Im with Mike in that Id rather watch Brendog or Ratty smash a corner than another massive flip.
  • + 4
 Me and my 15 year old son ride together and he uses 'sick' and 'stoked', and keeps calling me man all the time. What should I do? I don't want him to think I'm a knob!

Surfers are exempt from the 'stoked' ban!
  • + 7
 Apparently getting stoked has reached epidemic proportions among US college students.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgXObaM9i2Q
  • + 1
 Stoked for 52 hours? That's heavy shit!
  • + 2
 ^^ love this. I also think it comes down to localisms. I grew up in Somerset so good = gurt lush! when I lived in Shropshire man/dude became mon/monner. I just returned from living in NZ for a year and everything was "sweet as bro, I was so amped on that trail I was peaking out".

We all pick up the local lingo if you ride with the locals. It's just blending in. Ironically now I live in scotland I'm definitely more english haha.

On the video thing I want to see more real adventurous stuff that's different. Something I've never seen before. I like story and a mission/goal. My recent favourites were the yeti crew who went to do a circuit of some mountain in Peru. And the nutty dude in the 'road to karakol'. He had a shit 90s rigid piece of shit. But the video was entertaining because no ones done that before.

As for my own shit videos, you can watch a few here...

vimeo.com/smalltalesepictrails

I'm not a great rider and I only have a gopro because I like to spend my money on my bikes and traveling. I tried to make a conscious effort to not make a similar video twice. So I have adventures in different countries, trail building, heli biking, multi day epics, night riding etc. as I said to myself if I'm ever gonna put a video on line I want it to be a bit different to at least make up for my lack of skills.

More adventures that we can all do please...
  • + 2
 'Chuffed 'should suffice for any self respecting Brit over 30. I'll also accept 'made up' if you're a Scouser. :-)
  • + 1
 I've found myself and friends using it in a comedic way, if someone falls off or does something stupid we are like "ooh I think he might have been a bit to stoked there"
  • + 1
 @wordupg Did you get up to Nelson and ride maitai, 629, peaking, Kaka or fringed hill? or Queenstown hill or fern hill secret stuff? so many good tracks in South Island NZ!! sweet as bru!
  • + 1
 @eldofreeride Yeah bro I lived in nelson, so I've ridden all of those and more haha. Damn I miss nelson so much. There's just too much riding there. If you ever go back, or maybe your still there, head down to Richmond and ask about a trail called ridiculous. Proud to say I swung the first pick on that one and when I left it had already become an absolute beast. Used to work up the wairoa for a time, which is pretty much Disney land, but not open to the public. I only got to spend a week around queenstown on oil day so pretty much just smashed the park and rude rock. Chur bro!
  • + 5
 I haven't been amped for a movie since Life Cycles - personally, that movie set the bar way to high for others to compete with.
  • + 4
 My name isn t Trey but yes I m still stoked by the upcoming MTB movies !! Filmmakers and riders are such creative these days. The way it s filmed is important too, but I'm never disapointed... CAN T wait to watch UNREAL!!!!
  • + 0
 I'm looking forward to WTTE2. Also "Wont back down" is f*cking awesome, my favourite so far.
  • + 1
 So they are making a WTTE 2! Best news of the day man if so. I hadnt heard anything about it. I can't wait to see Unreal also.
  • + 1
 It's not confirmed tho, the Claw said that he is asking the big dogs for budget in a recent interview
  • + 4
 If filmmakers want to create the perfect bike movie I think they should do the following: watch ROAM or Seasons and try to do the same with the best cameras and technologies they can get.
  • + 2
 Yup, for me those Collective movies sign the pinnacle of mtb movies. Life Cycles is just a little bit to much artistic, love it though.
  • + 4
 "with the best cameras and technologies they can get"

I agree, they should shoot in 16mm again
  • + 3
 Great article - spot on. I was worried about being trolled for saying this earlier but when I saw the trailer for the new anthill film, I wondered what they'd been thinking. The challenge for filmmakers of that ilk is that every week we can hop on Pinkbike and see a well shot, well edited 5 minute piece that is better than most of the films we were paying for five or six years ago. This pushes the pro film makers to up the ante and I fear I'm not going to love the result. I loved strength in numbers and follow me as they had - at their core - a truism in that us mountain bikers ride together and that's what makes it fun. Watching wade and hunter shredding in France is awesome.
Watching anthill's new trailer and seeing riding down a glacier and riding with a bunch of wild horses just seems so far removed from reality that it's got me thinking this will be the first film by The Collective / anthill team that I'm not excited about.
Ounr stuff like This is Peaty, Life behind Bars, remy Metailler's stuff, Aaron Laroque's stuff and anything with Bas Van steenbergen or Dean Tennant in it, makes me want to go ride.
  • + 3
 Couldnt agree more. I like to see stuff that at least makes me think yes that could be me or yes that could be me but slower, not that high, not that easy looking while doing it, you get the picture. I love watching the big boys every now and then but a few minutes is more than enough. And I loved the comment with looking out for single crown forks, I do the same as I can much more relate to the style of riding. There's was a Fox add on here the other day with Ratboy riding his trail bike, that made me want to ride and his easy flowing style on that bike was just amazing to watch.
  • + 3
 Totally agree. Can't relate to big DJs, Rampage etc, these are as much circus acts as they are mountain biking. Bored of seeing whips in the bike park. I want to see great riders ripping up regular DH and singletrack. Seeing pros ride trails you have ridden is the best. Also, bin the slo mo, it's lazy and dull. And no more of the guy getting up from the party and loading his truck and driving to the trail.
  • + 4
 I am the Polar opposite to you- I don't relate to DH as i live down South- I dirt jump mainly. I think we're part of the reason that vids don't appeal like they used to. The MTB world continues to diversify and film makers are having to cover so many different disciplines to make a video that will appeal to us all. Take 'All or Nothing 2' as an example... They tried to cover so many different things it had no flow and really didn't work for me. Nowadays I think you're better off focussing on a few areas of MTB and film them rather than trying to squeeze in every type of riding ever attempted.
  • + 2
 I'll admit I did not read through all 200+ comments, so this may have already been touched on, but in addition to mixing up the ridiculous videos with some more "real" and inspirational mtb videos (most recent video that got me out the door immediately was steve peat solo/5010 clip), It would be rad to see people in videos riding something which does not cost $10,000. This is only good for bike companies, not the consumers, and is a huge contributor to the massive influx in prices. I know I would also love to see people riding the same trails I ride. I've seen enough enough A-line/dirt merchant to last me a lifetime. Relatable mountain biking on relatable bikes on relatable trails....then I'll by the DVD instead of rip it...
  • + 2
 Thanks so much for this article! I've been thinking about this kind of stuff for awhile. There's only so much of the same stuff you can watch, you know, and only so many people who can relate! Sometimes, if not most of the time, movies can just be 40-minute glorified music videos with at least 50 whips in there in slow-mo. I love it, I love the tricks, but I can't relate and I want more. Even AWESOMENESS can get old when it's repeated. I want to see a movie that really has some depth in it. Something that not just shows the tricks on jumps, but something that really exposes the reality of the riders. Those 15 second shots are literally 15 seconds from months and years of training and practice and dirty, gritty stuff - I wanna see that stuff. Stuff that shows that these pros are real people. Dirty training. Ups and downs. Emotions. Even some fly-on-the-wall filming would be incredible. You don't get to be the best without going through so much and damn, damn, damn I have so many favourite riders that I want to see that kind of stuff about! Nothing that looks like an advertisement, but more real stuff would be appreciated.
  • + 2
 Would you put $3 a month towards making epic and realistic videos happen? If there's a need for worthy content that gives you a great motivation and appreciation to watch throughout, the simple idea of paying the cost of a coffee a month to get a video made each month with a new rider, with a new spot that only those who subscribe to put the money in can watch. It happens worldwide with all sorts of content just not sports, so it could be a great step to getting that edit you can have your part in and look forward to each month. This is a serious concept as I've got plenty of keen kiwi shredders amped to do edits, we just need that extra bit of cash to make each film happen.
  • + 2
 This is somewhat related. I find myself enjoying watching the women's world cup downhill race runs more than the men because they are going a speed that my brain can almost comprehend and I can almost see myself doing, while the men's runs are like watch an x-wing fighter take out the Deathstar (So far out of my abilities it is a little depressing to tell the truth). NO DISRESPECT TO THE LADIES.
  • + 2
 As more trails get closed, I wonder that part of reason is that non-riders see the circus trick and huge drops of the latest gen mountain bike films and think that's how mountain biking is. A film like that one above could show the hikers and equestrians that we appreciate nature too and our experience is not so far removed from theirs.
  • + 2
 I don't really see it as the problem being that big banger tricks are making videos less entertaining.

Video has become a staple of marketing for brands meaning that we are swamped with content that perhaps hasn't been created simply by people who want to visualise the joy of riding and how it feels. Short edits are all over the place and if we're not wowed within that brief video then we switch off as an audience. Also, video has never been more accessible or cheap to make, meaning that there is a huge amount of extremely average content which we are all consuming every day.

It's all about craft for me. If a mountain bike movie has been lovingly crafted with a good concept and great music which fits the mood then it is more likely to get my stoke meter buzzing. I also feel it is so difficult with a short film / edit to really get absorbed. We're often watching these (sometimes on the move) on a smartphone or tablet, and even if it is on a laptop or desktop it's difficult to get the same impact as sitting down and really WATCHING and becoming involved with a bike movie.

I'll never forget the first time I watched Life Cycles. It was so beautifully made, the idea was so complete and the soundtrack was an amazing fit. It took 6 years (I think?) to make that movie and it really shows when you watch it. Even the trailer was possibly the most perfect 2 and a half minutes of video ever created for mountain biking. vimeo.com/14600175

I'm sure if you got Derek Frankowski and Ryan Gibb to make a movie about trail riding, it would make me feel just as involved without all the big rigs and the three sixties off massive drops and the like. Don't get me wrong though, I aspire to those kind of stylish big tricks as much as the next guy, and they definitely have their place in a truly great MTB movie.

It will be interesting to see how Unreal stacks up when that drops next summer. Trailer is looking good so far.
  • + 2
 This is why i LOVE "This is Peaty" edits. It cant just be about riding, I'd say 75% of what is attractive and enjoyable about MTB is the silliness of hanging and doing stupid shit with your Bro's. Getting there, wherever there is, wkd get away, weekly ride, park trip, epic back country, its all about the camaraderie! This is what Peaty captures, just with the added dimension of WC pressure and excitement. My 2 cents!
  • + 4
 If I need to be honest after watching ' won't back down' I felt way more enthusiastic to ride than afteafany other extreme movie in the middle of nowhere
  • + 3
 someone get the legends out for this, would love to see wade, vanderham, barrel, vouilloz, cedric etc in something more down to earth. Definitely as a supplement though, to the regular bikeporn thats out.
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 10min film, 6mins worth of time lapses of squirrels having sex and slow mo scenes of half of a rider pushing half of a bike up the hill. Enough with dubstep music that makes me smash my mouse in a desperate attempt to mute it asap. And enough with all the tiny pieces of dirt that flies up in a millionth of a second while smashing a berm. What movies need today are fast gnarly riding with music that soothes into the mood of riding and ears.. No slow mo crap.. no time lapses.. and for hells sake, we aint interested in watching riders push their bikes up the hill.
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 Its not special, which I want to contribute to exactly the problem of this article, when something is new and you can relate to it, its interesting...after some time when this becomes everyday routine or you exceed or reach your idols or find out you will never do it it becomes not that interesting. At that moment you will keep following the sport only when it became your passion. Anyway you wont probably be interested to watch every movie and visit every bike related party, you just ride and live in your local bike community and thats about it...
  • + 2
 I totally agree. I've never posted here before but I wanted to say something. I had been thinking the same thing for some time. I love videos of people riding the same stuff I do but better. I love that RM/Race face video because I can relate to it. Don't get me wrong, I spent my Sunday watching Rampage but watching videos like this one get me stoked to ride. For what it is worth I think footage of people climbing tough climbs is really inspiring too.
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 I don't get stoked by bike movies anymore, simply because edits like the one Mike pointed out (I also store it in my head) are just good enough. If I want to hear what a PRO has to say, I will watch one of their personal podcasts like Curtis Keens one. I don't want some reality show style faggish confessions in front of the camera, which are not true anyways, because camera makes you exaggerate things you want to say, and you will always have sponsors dictating your public relations attitude in the back of your head. To me Clay Porter was the only one able to make pros talk freely and honestly. Maybe latest Behind the Bike series on Dirt are good. The last movie I saw was Life Cycles. In a weird way, after that I did not need to see anything more. RAW series on Vital is awesome. Finaly, the most spectacular thing to watch in MTB is jumps, tricks and going big. That does not happen on an everyday ride.
  • + 1
 Edits have gotten better than bike movies of late. I wish pink bike would set up some kind of playlist feature though, like youtube without the ads, or even with them if the ads were just good edits anyway.
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 Not many people here thats mentioning Where the trail ends. Really liked that movie, not only because of the high quality cameras. But I liked that it showed real Big mountain riding. And its a mix of talk and riding, you get to know the riders a little bit, and especially what they like to ride
  • + 2
 Agree with a lot of this. You also need to factor in that they are making movies for a generation with a much shorter attention span and the sheer quantity of videos out there is enormous so you need to do something special to stand out. It's the same with surfing movies, they've gone from the old 60's Endless Summer type movies with a bit of a plot to the modern movie which is a bunch of edits of guys doing 2 pumps and a giant aerial over and over to a sound track. It doesn't even begin to resemble what 99% of surfers do. The ironic thing is that people still watch Endless Summer and couldn't even remember what happened in a modern movie 5 minutes after watching it.
  • + 2
 Agree in part.

No disrespect, but "shred movies" of any genre are really just re-hashing of Warren Miller. The content has not changed much in 10 years.

Love the Documentary Pedal Driven, because there's a story one can follow, it's not just a shred fest, and when they do get to shredding, it's locals riding things I'd ride. NOT that there's anything really wrong with the pros hitting insane lines, the riding is insane, and inspires me to push myself further with MY riding.

I'm anxious to see more rider driven content, rather than the big boy productions. Cameras have evolved enough that with a little talent, many average joe riders can produce something of cinematic quality - that is what I am looking forward to.

The Collective helped evolve the movie thing with Seasons, and to a lesser part "Follow Me". I'd like to see more story driven content from the big boys, as well as from the average dudes.

(That said, I'm looking forward to the follow up to "Where the trail ends".... Smile )
  • + 2
 There is definitely something to be said about the familiarity aspect and being able to directly relate to what's going in the videos. Case and point, I think the thing that gets me most pumped to ride are edits and vids from local riders on my local trails / parks. Even though the rides aren't the best in the world, watching guys rip trails I have ridden, and can actually pick up and go ride at any time will always get me most pumped.
  • + 1
 Yeah one of the only people I follow puts out local edits from places I ride that make me want to go ride those trails now.
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 well then shut up and film your enduro movies, we'll keep doing our freeride thing because lots of people actually do like to ride like that. Make your own videos
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 agreed
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 NO, if Im not good enough to do something I don't want to watch paid professionals do it, I DONT NEED TO GET BETTER PROS NEED TO GET WORSE
  • + 1
 Did you read the article?
  • + 2
 Yes I did read your article. My above comment was more just dicking around replying to luckynuggets comment, although I don't entirely agree with your point of view probably because I ride a lot of slope style. I can see why people who only ride 5 inch trail bikes wearing xc helmets want to watch people riding similar set ups on normal trail. for me the whole Enduro thing doesn't really cut it, it's always just seemed like mellowed out downhill in an open face helmet. I guess mountain biking to me was suppose to be as gnarly as possible rather than all trail bikey and stuff.
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 So many lack in depth. Once you've watched seasons (which I love), they all appear a bit......formulaic. Tipping point was good because there was a progression, something to follow and Minaar is a character who is easy to like.
We need more innovation and better betrayal of personalities in order for us to "buy in" emotionally. As said above, you can only watch so many whips and jumping in the red dirt of Utah.
  • + 2
 @mikelevy nailed it. been thinking the same thing myself for a while. last vid which REALLY made me wanna go ride (and watch over and over) was Evil Uprising. such a sick edit. and the following ones too.
www.pinkbike.com/news/An-Evil-Uprising-video-2013.html
  • + 1
 I actually think this is the reason why the latest Danny Mac film has had so many views (17.5M views in about 2 weeks!) compared to his Imaginate film (25M views but taken 15months to achieve)

the latest film is closer to reality than the tricks, flips and twists of imaginate... yes it still has the odd Danny flip and hop, but the majority is about the adventure of riding/carrying up a mountain that we can all relate to.
  • + 1
 I agree with what mike is saying here. I love seeing videos of dudes ripping on trails accessible by weekend warriors. What it brings to it is a different interpretation of the trail. Yes most people will just pump through all those rollers. However, when an elite level rider doubles or triples them it inspires you to look at the trail differently. Personally, I enjoy watching a lot of videos different people make of trails I ride. Not necessarily elite riders, even. Every now and then, someone does something different from everyone else and then I want to go try that line. I belief that's the point Mike was making. I think a vast majority of people will follow the trail as its been built. Elite riders can see different lines and different ways of riding that trail. Manual this, double that. Those are all things we can take to our own trails. I will disagree with mike that the videos on PB are getting stale. It could just be that you're watching the same kinds of videos. I feel like there's a big variety of content that shows up. Though, I do think it comes in waves. This year, I feel like all the short films during the summer were racing or free ride. Now that racing and fmb are over, I feel like the videos have a different vibe. It feels more laidback and relaxed for some reason.
  • + 2
 The article sounds like a push for 6 inch. Ike edits. Wtf. I want downhill shred and I want it now. I can understand people who don't dj fast forwarding those segments but to people who do dj it's beautiful xxx bike porn.
  • + 1
 This is the exact kind of film that I've been making, and I'd like to make a lot more of them. If you're a fast rider and want to dedicate a few days to shooting in the next 6 months, anywhere in Colorado, Utah, or Arizona, hit me up.
  • + 1
 Even though I love freeride I agree 100% with you on this. It's awesome to see guys sending crazy tricks in crazy locations but I know that I will never be able to do those tricks and years of trying in a skatepark has proven this to me. I get more stoked to go and ride by watching people simply riding fast on stuff that I could ride.
  • + 1
 Agreed, however, you can chose what inspires you and get the position of you riding skill level where it is and try to get better,and this skill riding level it's what makes you enjoy mountain bike, but you got to being honest with yourself
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 I'm with you Mike. I'm a fan of films like Strength in Numbers, and Where the Trail Ends, but I want to see something that relates to the riding I, and many others do.
  • + 1
 I want to see riders and filmers do something unique, creative and just different. Doesn't matter to me how big they go. Way too many followers out there. So many people seem to have the mindset of "You did a back flip"? "I'll do a double back flip" "Oh yeah, I'll do a triple" All the same to me.
  • + 4
 Watch Chris Akrigg edits man!!
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 Yep. My favorite segment in the past few years (getting older now though), and one described above, was Vories railing it in Invermere in NWD 10 ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ymYANmaZR8 )...and I think it stands out because it is relatable. The sounds of the ride, the trail, the feeling of the shots really captured many of the things I love about biking. That said though, Life Cycles did some unique and amazing things too and I'm really stoked to see what may be coming in the future from the artists at Lifecycles... And every now and then watching Matt Hunter send it over a gully into the face of a dusty embankment and some how make the geometry and physics work to ride out with his body intact is pretty awesome.
  • + 1
 Great article Mike, and right on. I'm the same with ski movies too - I can only take so many shots of steep faces in Alaska and urban rail jams before it all starts to look the same to me.

I can't say that any mountain bike movie since "Follow Me" has really floated my boat. There's the odd segment that I'll think is really cool, but generally, it all just leaves me squirming in my seat. Whereas WC downhill, I'll watch live feed all morning ...

I'm really liking some of the diary based vids I see on PB a lot more - Projeckt Roam being a fave.
  • + 1
 I get something different from each "edit", much like listening to music. Watching Lacondeguy, Nico, & Fairclough or any Huckfest clips from this year is rad and gets me stoked to go ride, but its definitely not the only thing. Catching the latest adventure that Hunter went on, a new Remi whistler slaughter or Peaty and Brother Rat in the World Cup can do the same, if not more. It doesnt matter what skill level we have, but more on who we connect with. For me, slopestyle is sick to watch but hard to connect with.
  • + 1
 I miss the days of The Collective, Roam and Seasons. I still watch those films over and over. They managed to capture the soul of riding. Nowadays all we see is the top 1% of riders doing huge whips to repetitive, unoriginal electronic/dubstep beats. These films are missing out on the biggest development in mountain biking...the development of local/regional trail systems where 99% of riders are. I would LOVE to see a film that showcases local rippers on trail systems across the US.
  • + 1
 Really, this is a concern for riders? If you complain, have you ever really learned to ride the other disciplines? Perhaps branching out might give you a better perspective to enjoy it just for what it is impressive. That said I also like those movies with a bit of everything and a bit of story, and most movies exceed my attention span. That is probably my problem though.
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 It's an Op Ed piece, so it's just a topic that I've written about rather than a ''concern''. I've been around long enough to have done all sorts of stupid jumps, raced DH at a decent level, and spent a hell of a lot of time building some 20ft drop that I only plan on hitting once anyways... but that's not my point. I'm not saying that the jump/huck/spin genre of movies should go away, just that many people would appreciate a different style of film.
  • + 1
 Great post. My favorite part of the movies are the trail segments, but they are always too short. I would love to see a 35 - 50 minute movie all trail riding. That being said, I do love watching where the trail ends, one of my favorites.
  • + 1
 WATCH THIS, this is what got me to MTB in the beginning of it, it is a mix of Europian, more exactly Southern Czech Republic guys, ridding all styles :-) but remember it is year 1999 ? :-) LINK: vimeo.com/32508275 This gets me stoked also today :-D
  • + 1
 It has to be more than just riding. There has to be something about mountain biking lifestyle, Nitro Circus style. Goofy shit all around, on top of the riding. I don't know about you guys but I don't take myself seriously when I go out riding, so I would enjoy a film that doesnt take itself too seriously either. But that's just me!
  • + 1
 I have to say that no video really makes me stoked to ride. I watch the occasional edit to maybe see some sweet jumps or nice terrain, but it never makes me jump up from the computer to get on my bike. What does that is a call from my buddies, perfect weather, or most often a dream where I can manual for miles. So if it comes down to it, I'd rather see some gnarly DH racing, bar drags in loam, or tree taps in the woods than some guy riding to his favorite fishing spot. Sorry Mike.
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 www.pinkbike.com/news/2014-huayhuash-film-mountain-bike-adventure-in-peru-video.html

On of my favorite vids for it epicness.No tricks or big hucks to be found.
  • + 1
 That was a great thing.
  • + 1
 The one movie that I can watch over and over again is "Shifted". Sure, the riding in it is still way above my skill level, but everything about that video is fantastic. There's loamy dh trails to a little bit of dirt jumping. Something Ive always wanted to do is to go on a week long trip woth my buddies and just go exploring and Shifted just gets me more stoked on doing something like that.
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 Wow because you guys cant rip a crazed jump or tirick a 30'+ cliff you dont enjoy watching it done? this all sounds a bit crazy, so you all must not enjoy really any movies since you cant fly a spaceship a fighter jet, save the world or not, especially a 007 film since a yaaa your never gonna be able to that.
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 It has nothing to do with not enjoying it... you missed my point. I don't want these NWD style movies to stop coming out, I'm just asking for more kickass riding in settings that aren't completely out of this world. Keep the hucking and spinning coming, please.
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 I actually slightly disagree, there are a number of trail riding videos out there and they are getting more and more popular with the advances enduro. Full length videos probably not so much but there is "the rise of enduro" coming out. Yeah the DH and Dirt jumpers pump out the most videos, but probably because it's the easiest to shoot because they dont have to cover miles upon miles of trail riding, they are mainly focusing on 1 to a few features (sorry in advance DH video makes, please don't kill me, i love your edits). Everyday, Pinkbike posts 5-10 new videos, and most get me pumped to ride, and are a great escaped from my desk monkey job. that's because people are cranking out tons of videos all the time. that arts fartsy stuff that we crave, takes an incredible amount of time and patients to capture; not to mention, sitting down, editing, and dealing with bogus copyright laws on songs. I digress. Even Danny MacAskill is switching to more trail while doing insane stuff that i'll never be able to do (the ridge). Yeti has been making great edits for years, Strength In Numbers was an AMAZING combo, and there have been a number that i have seen out there at random. It is also still important to show the completely insane stuff as this is how our sport progresses. Modern day enduro bikes are basically, lighter and more efficient DH bikes from a decade ago, and a lot of use are riding those trails we once deemed "insane" with ease (Love my Trek Remedy). I am DEF not saying I don't agree with the article, but it is definitely a growing trend to show more of the everyday stuff, well at least what i am selecting to watch and associating with.

Also, random side bar, Pinkbike originated as only DH videos. and Rampage totally got me stocked this year but mainly due to the "Road to Rampage" series which gave a ton of background to really build the story.
  • + 1
 I kinda agree that bike movies aren't as exciting as they once were, but to me it seems that the issue is CONSTANT SLOW-MO. Not the riding style, just trying SO hard to exaggerate everything the rider does that it takes away from the experience of watching a good rider shred whatever they are good at. Sure, I may never do the same huge jumps and tricks as the freeride pros out there, but seeing them shred gets me stoked to ride anyway, because when I see someone charging a nice trail, I want to get out there and do that too! Seeing riders in their element just makes me want to go get some myself, because even though I may not be doing the same magnitude of riding they are, I can imagine it and feel like I am really shredding anyway.
  • + 1
 Every minute watching any mtb film is a minute less dealing with most other media, which as we know, is terrible. Any MTB film, long or short any time I don't mind. I'm 'stoked' that there is more of it now than ever before. The cream will still rise to the top.
  • + 1
 To each his own. I like the "shred" and bike park type movies. I know I can't ride like that, but I also can't play basketball or football like a pro but that doesn't stop me from watching pro sports. I live in Indiana, it's flat and boring. Everyone here rides 29ers, Lycra, the entire bit. The freeride/bike park/shred movies allow me to escape the MTB scene here, and dream of much better riding destinations. Gets me pumped for my yearly trips to Trestle and Snowshoe. I say the more types of MTB genres the better.
  • + 1
 Hm, my impression was that with Enduro/EWS and the industry pushing trail/enduro-bikes there are actually a lot more videos coming out recently which show trail riding to which I can relate than ever before..selective perception maybe?
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 To me, the biggest turnoff in recent movies is usually the music. How could all that dubstep and rap ever let me focus on some riding, not to mention get me stoked. Bring back the metal&punk&rock in movies!

Also, I feel like there's way less riding down a hill or hitting sick fast jump lines like in Follow me, going all dirt jumps and triple-everything tricks. I know it's all just subjective, but I'll take watching Sam hill ride over any dirt jumper any time of a day.
  • + 1
 I'd take it a step further. My favorite bike movie is Pedaldriven. I love trail riding and it stokes me so see it without a doubt, but when there is a window into the rider's life it gets to be a video article, and that makes me feel like I am part of something instead of just being a guy with a hobby.
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 This is why I like what the costal crew does, building, riding with your dudes sharing the love of being on your bike. That being said they are still complete shredders. Also I always questioned why dirt jumping is part of mountain bike things. I feel as if that style of riding is like BMX or something you'd see at the X-games.
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 I have to say that I disagree with this article because the insane movies get me amped to ride because they show me how much I can actually improve in my riding, even though I know that I will never get that good. The other low skill cross country edits are what bore me because they are presenting a skill level that I am already at in most of those edits. I like to watch edits of people that are better than me to simply show how much the sport is progressing, and be more entertaining to all audiences like my friends who don't ride as much. But I wish there was more talking in many of the movies, because Rad Company bored me more than Where The Trail Ends simply because of no talking in Rad Company. But I have to say I hate how the insane movies keep some of the public from mountain biking because they think that is all that mountain biking is super extreme, and deadly. They do need some more popular cross country edits to simply get the general public more into the sport. Us mountain bikers however don't really need these types of edits as much.
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 I have to disagree with this post. Granted I can't pull any of the tricks or stunts the riders do in the videos it's what gets me stoked to shread harder. I don't have a DJ/Slopestyle bike but I do ride downhill and jump my bikes quite a bit.

I love to see what's possible on a mountain bike and love to see the riders pushing the envelope of the sport. I agree that a nice dash of trail riding thrown in can add a quite a bit to a video. However, I would not be inclined to purchase a DVD/Bluray that has just a bunch of trail riding in it. I'm kinda surprised to be in the minority on this topic. The last three I bought were all great and had a nice mix of riding and a major STOKE factor. That is, Barred for Life 2, Arrival and Rad Company all rocked! Keep the stoke alive Johnny Five!
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 Id like to see the videos get crazier myself. I think the direction of Danny Macskill in way back home, and road bike party 2 or the ken block gymkhana videos. I want more content and more never been done stuff on strange obstacles. I personally hate the idea of seeing everyday riding in a video. Id like to see something that changes my idea of what can be possible on a bike. My favorite segment right now is Graham Aggasiz on gnarcroft in Strength in Numbers. One example for the future is a video that combines that, and a huge crazy concept like Imaginate or Way back Home.
  • + 1
 I dnt think its just about the bike, though I could care less about DJ segments and FF them. I think everything is over done and film makers have gone to far focusing on perfection which is fine evey now and again, but I still prefer how older vids were filmed I never tire of them, NWD, Collective to some degree still the benchmark flr perfection but almost too pefect like Anthill films I feel robbed. NWD and Earthed series were value, the moive was just one lart the extras were lften even better, because it was raw! I loved Freecaster DVDs after race season and still hammer Freecaster 2011, its such a great watch, long epic Warner and raw! Life cycles was great but I feel this took MTB DVDs in the wrong direction. With so much content online, you have to give value, I still prefer mags to ipad or pc content and DVDs to webisodes! Bur for instant short gratification a short vid or news is where PB, Vital NSB Dirt are great, but anything over a minute on a eline mag and Im shuttting down, just over exposed content, my brain has about 10s before it switches off now plus the BS on sites really suts me down too, so ride more punch keyboard less thank gawd yeahaaaa Love news on race season so cant wait for that. DVD will always rule, bring back those dudes who pioneered they were legends, Il buy the next Earthed or NWD!
  • + 1
 I Started mountain biking at the age of 55 and I have done very well. The greed of the bike companies has taken the price of bikes out of the real world. No matter what anybody has to say, we are blind to the fact that no body in the real worl can afford these bikes anymore. Say what you want about my age, but I can hold my own at Snow Mountain West Virginia and am proud of it. Remember We all get older, it's how we except all of those around us.
  • + 3
 BUUUUUT!!! Where the Trail Ends is now on Netflix so I can watch on repeat. That to me, is the greatest movie in recent time-
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 The one film that still has me reaching for my bike every time I watch it is Dirt. Nothing mental in it, just a group of mates having fun on their bikes. Classic film. R.i.p JMC
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 I kind of agree, although its not that I dont like the big stuff. Its more I miss the natural raw unedited stuff. And I'm not all that fussed on trail riding either. Give me raw natural downhill like clay porter used to give us. I'm thinking sprung, earthed and films like those. They came out once a year and they were rad. If there was something documenting the full wc circuit for the year I'd buy it. Webisodes aren't enough and too hard to find anyway. Throw a bit of trail bikes in between if you like. Bring it!
  • + 1
 The stuff Stu Thomson is doing with Cut Media is bang on track, The Ridge being an easy example but try his Mojo Trail diaries with Steve Peat and Guy Martin taking in my local rides up Dumyat and at Cambusbarron.
  • + 4
 Someone should make All.I.Can. by sherpa cinema but with mountain biking.
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 Yeah I think it was life cycles
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 There is nothing more motivating than that which blend simplicity and performance. Okay see a 360-degree 70ft, but pushes you to go out ... We need more all-mountain freeride and dirt jump less.
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 two films I can think of that are relatively new that actually have riding in them, and by riding I mean shit that most of us could see ourselves doing are... 1. Strength in Numbers 2. Not Bad
  • + 0
 Totally agree! Not that I didn't enjoy watching the Red Bull Rampage. But after watching Fairclough's movie a few times in a row I was totally amped to go ride myself. I send the link over to my friend telling him that this looks a bit like our home trail and that we needed to go biking this weekend and shred those corners just a little bit harder than we normally do. This is exactly what happend. Mike, I like your opinion.
  • + 0
 That little video sums it up perfectly. What a great few minutes! I thought the same thing after I watched it.
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 I've got about 40 transferred VHS tapes from the '80s and '90s for you @MikeLevy if you want to enjoy watching riding that was once extreme, but is now average at best that even you could do.
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 I don't think that I could do half of the things in Tread FYI
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 I'm very excited for Builder Movie. Hopefully the non riding segments are little more interesting and focus on the actual building.
  • + 1
 couldnt agree more, I think we're in for a huuuuuuge treat
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 I couldnt agree more. The new videos are sick and the stuff guys are doing are so insane i almost just want to never bike again because i'll never be able to do that stuff. Chainsmoke 2 is still one of my all-time favorites videos. Its got everything from DH to XC and every segment has something in it that makes me want to go ride my bike.
  • + 0
 This article is a rant if I've ever seen one.
Do you watch prefer porn with "average" girls too?
The videos today contain riding far beyond my skill level, but I still prefer watching the best of the best opposed to joe-blow in HD riding enduro. The videos we have now are stunning. The riders, superhuman. If you no longer get amped watching these types of film, perhaps something else in your life is off. Fix your chi, get amped on riding videos, grab your bike, and shred.
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 If you must know, I do prefer porn with average looking women because it's more realistic and believable.
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 haha agree with the porn
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 "Put the best riders in the world on their trail bikes and film them shredding a goddamn trail. Film them riding singletrack that we could all enjoy, but at a speed that makes us go ''holy shit, that guy is really moving!'' Film them drifting through corners, manualling for longer than seems possible, and generally have a blast on their bikes in much the same way most of us do, only better."

I'm not sure exactly how you concluded that Levy wants to watch "joe-blow riding enduro".
  • + 1
 For me it's hard to beat the Trans Provence daily edits. Of the past three years the videos from 2012 are my favorite, as they feature more non-pros and there's less sponsor interference.
  • + 1
 you're speaking of my mind! the narrows sram video is still the f*ckin best piece of mountainbike art from the last couple years! don't get it why there arent more views.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYorg9TDeXM
  • + 2
 I like movies from Mike Hunter, Dan Milner and Hans Rey. One can relate to those adventures around the world!
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 I get stoked off my face watching Seasons and NWD 10 every time. Music maketh the movie!
  • + 1
 This is the video your looking for, or at least i am stoked to ride after watching it.

www.vitalmtb.com/videos/member/Backcountry-Trail-Addiction,27183/csteen,28416
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 No, I don't wanna see people clipping into flats.. that's as far as I got.. Ill stick with Rad Company and Follow Me when I need inspiration.
  • + 1
 Jesse Melamed ripping whistlers westside. Is one of my favs and just good solid all mountain xc. m.pinkbike.com/video/364780
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 www.pinkbike.com/news/Church-video-2014.html
This video of trail riding gets me so stoked to ride!
I can watch it over and over
  • + 2
 The vids by the cane creek guys "church" and the db inline one always get me stoked!!
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 Agreed! Church was awesome. I WISH there were more films of this style. www.pinkbike.com/news/Church-video-2014.html
  • + 1
 I agree, some of the best videos are ones like Simmons and Vanderham on 120mm trail bikes or some of the DHWC guys doing their winter training.
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 The last thing I want to watch is Remy peddling up a hill, sorry.
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 The film you are asking for is called From Where We Stand.
  • + 3
 Brendogs video from last week. Watch it.
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 This pretty much sums up what you're after. Amazing video www.pinkbike.com/video/365709
  • + 2
 bring back rankin and get rid of the slow-mo bullhonkey and then exclusively film sam hill and ill be happy
  • + 2
 I just read this thread of bitching and all I want to do is go shred my favourite trail.
  • + 1
 Earthed, Kranked 1 and The collective, they are the best films to date. I'm eager to see Aggy and company in UNREAL riding on the glacier.
  • + 1
 One of my recent favorites was Neil Donahue introducing the Santa Cruz Bronsen. Pardon the spelling
  • + 1
 "that can zoom in to catch a gnat scratching its balls at a glorious million frames per second" hahaha best part.
  • + 1
 We need more Rankin, his stuff is always bang on. Life cycles is style over substance
  • + 2
 kranked, nwd, earthed and collective series was raaaaad!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 2
 I'd be happy if they figured out how to film WC and EWC races better
  • + 2
 Nope. Not stoked. NWD stopped, "enduro" became a thing.
  • + 1
 I love the vids of guys walking their more than capable all mountain rigs uphill.
  • + 0
 That is definitely what I would watch, real mountain biking that anyone can do, maybe not as fast or as smooth but real trails on 130-160 mm bikes.
  • + 2
 The Collective/Roam/Seasons anyone?
  • + 1
 5mins of footage turned into a half hour of slow mo
Does not get my hard earned £

I'll wait till its on youtube
  • + 2
 I want to see more Matt Hunter edits. And that's about it. Nothing more.
  • + 1
 Does anybody remember the Pist-N-Broke movies? Back In The Saddle Again had true mountain biking soul.
  • + 1
 Pedalfiles! Classic.
  • + 2
 Totally agree. I need more Matt Hunter Lone Wolfe style videos in my life.
  • + 2
 Those videos are so good.
  • + 1
 I would like it so much if pinkbike put together a compilation of these kinds of short films, or as we say 'edits', in a movies for your Monday format. I already have a folder named 'bike adventures' with a few of my favorites in it and it could use more.
  • + 1
 Still love @larock take on Sin City.
  • + 1
 UK is where it's at. We're all so cool.
  • + 1
 Nailed it
  • + 1
 i remembered when i first watch this video i haven't heard of enduro
  • + 0
 I heard Royals by Lourdes on the radio yesterday and I realized most current cycling vids are trash. Except Peaty.
  • + 1
 Poppy the dog made my week! anything with trail dogs is good
  • + 1
 All sport films are sensationalized.
  • + 0
 yeah I rarely watch the dirt jump segments, I just like to see the dudes go big and fast!
  • + 1
 Trail riding is "real mountainbiking" and DH isn't?

errrr

f*ck you?
  • + 3
 That's not what I said, is it? I said that the majority of mountain bikers don't own DH bikes, which is 100% true, and that the average rider is a guy who has a bike with a bunch of chain rings, a stem that's too long, and a bar that's too skinny. There is no ''real mountainbiking'', it's all mountain biking.
  • + 1
 "What's that? You have a downhill bike, some pads, and a few big jumps in your local forest? That sounds like a great time, but the truth of the matter is that you're in the minority when it comes to riding disciplines"

"I'm going to make a suggestion to the filmers out there: make a mountain bike movie that actually has mountain biking in it. Put the best riders in the world on their trail bikes and film them"

Kinda looks like thats what you said to me....
I'm only poking fun really.
  • + 0
 Me saying that someone is in the minority isn't the same as saying what they're doing isn't ''real'' or doesn't matter. Probably was a bit of a smart ass in that second example, though, so you got me there haha
  • + 1
 Disagree, i still love watching WTTE
  • + 0
 old school rules bike movies!
  • + 0
 ride to the hills
  • - 1
 I like the ones with dogs out on the trail with the rider.. nothing corners as relentlessly as a hound.
  • + 1
 stoked for Alchemy 2!!
  • + 1
 Word. Totally agree.
  • - 1
 Agreed, current bike porn is well...bike porn.
  • + 3
 yeah, I watch it like porn too. I only need about 5 minutes of it to get Stoked.

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