Slack Randoms: MTBs in Cybertrucks, Pizza Oven-Equipped eBikes, $925 Towel Skirts & More

Nov 19, 2023 at 7:35
by Ed Spratt  
We use Slack as our workplace communication tool at Pinkbike and we have a #randoms channel that we use to share an assortment of videos and stories from all corners of the cycling world and beyond... We thought a couple of the moments from the past week were too good not to share with a wider audience, so here are some of the highlights.




The Cybertruck Will Fit Your Expensive MTB

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Photo: @gserrato

For anyone worrying that their new Tesla Cybertruck won't fit their top-of-the-range bike then you can sleep easy as the truck bed is plenty big enough to show off your high net worth and scratch up your downtube on the way to the trails.

Update

In a wild turn of events after spotting this photo shared across other platforms it turns out it originated from Pinkbike user @gserrato


Domino’s New Delivery E-Bikes Come Equipped with a Pizza Oven

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Domino’s new DXB e-bike features a temperature-controlled pizza pod or a pizza oven for anyone not writing press releases. The aim is that this will keep food warm while it is being delivered and to make sure your warm pizza arrives unharmed Domino's has also included suspension that is claimed to reduce g-forces by up to 67%.

Read more here.



Balenciaga's $925 Towel Skirt

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If you thought bike prices are too high then look no further than Balenciaga's towel skirt from its Spring 24 collection. Costing $925 the towel skirt is made in Italy and features a hidden adjustable belt buckle inside to make sure it's completely different than just wrapping a standard towel around your waist.



Anneke Beerten & Jess Hana Talk Trail Manners


bigquotesHi There! Jess Hana and Anneke Beerten here! How much do you know about Trail Manners? Not much...? Don't worry, we are here to give you a few reminders on how to behave out on the trails. The outdoors and the trails is a place we should all share together. A friendly hello, giving the right away, minding your speed, and just being a good ambassador for our sport goes a long way. Whether you're a professional, or new to mountain biking, we've put together this video with a few trail situations that might give you a refresher on trail etiquette. With a little comedic relief of course Smile Anneke Beerten



Skiing A Rail Upside Down


bigquotesGravity ain't got nothing on Mac Forehand, who stepped to a secret kicker at Sunday River in Maine to hit a custom Red Bull rail feature upside down! No one can test the vertical limits of skiing over a 50-foot gap like Mac, press play! Red Bull Snow



Racing Giant LEGO Cars


bigquotesLeave it to Travis Pastrana and the Nitro Circus gang to build (and then race) life-size LEGO cars. Nitro Circus



Building a Rocket Bird


bigquotesBuilding a DIY ornithopter that flies like a hummingbird. It took over 4 months to design this mechanical bird, and with no knowledge about drone or rocket design, I was in over my head. Works By Design




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268 Comments
  • 325 4
 Etiquette- turn off your F$&@n Bluetooth speaker ya kooks!
  • 85 15
 And leave at least one earbud at home you freaking goons!
  • 59 3
 Just get out there when nobody else does. In the cold, in the rain, in the dark, early in the morning. Enjoy the silence, like Depeche Mode.
  • 27 46
flag naptime FL (Nov 19, 2023 at 8:53) (Below Threshold)
 Land of the free?
  • 62 3
 @salespunk: dude headphones are getting too advanced, I shouldn’t have to scream at the top of my lungs at a trail runner multiple times to get their attention Frown
  • 28 106
flag jwdenver (Nov 19, 2023 at 10:10) (Below Threshold)
 been riding with music a lot more often lately, it's great. come at me bro!
  • 33 3
 @devinkalt: Whut? Can't hear you bro. I like to run with sound cancelling turned on. Can't have nature interrupting my new BTS album
  • 17 20
 @naptime: free to take my boot in yo ass!!!
  • 29 1
 @jwdenver: Sometimes around here you hear the guys practising their Alpine Horns whilst out on your bikes - it's amazing!
  • 2 1
 @salespunk: at least one.... lol
  • 10 20
flag naptime FL (Nov 19, 2023 at 20:37) (Below Threshold)
 @wobblegoblin: there's that freedumb fascism we all love
  • 1 3
 Idk where yall ride, never heard a single person playing music in my 5 years of living in AR.
  • 3 2
 @mkul7r4: It's definitely a thing in CO from time to time. I don't mind it too much, since I can't hear it more than 30 feet away from them and it lets me know they're coming or going.

Besides, I can't hear it over Miley Cyrus blasting directly into my eardrums at a cool noise-cancelled 130dB lmao
  • 25 0
 this is funny, every time when BT speaker topic comes up in a local facebook hiking group, that person gets bunch of messages that goe like

- mind your own business
- it's a public space, I can do whatever I want
- you must be fun at the parties
- this is for safety ( bear deterrent)
- headphones aren't safe

and etc etc etc

I think at the end this just shows that a good chunk of the population are just entitled asshats.
  • 8 20
flag wobblegoblin (Nov 20, 2023 at 9:32) (Below Threshold)
 @mkul7r4: With more people than Canada here in California it only takes a very small percentage of the population to really f*ck everything up for everyone else. . . Too bad it seems like ALL Los Angelina’s and most BAYTARDS are ruining the entire state.
  • 3 0
 This. I climbed the ropes at Half Dome about 10 years ago and there was another hiker blasting music from a speaker strapped to his a$$. What is still stuck in my head is "Sorry Ms. Jackson" over a decade later. At least it was memorable.
  • 4 0
 @salespunk: Went with the Shokz open ear bone conductors. I got the Open Run Pro. Pretty great, and can maintain situational awareness. Not the quality of OTE or good ear buds, but the trade-off is worth it IMO. shokz.com
  • 1 0
 @Chuckolicious: +1. You can listen to tunes and the nature at the same time.
  • 8 0
 @naptime: freedom does not denote that one should not use etiquette. You won't be jailed, but you will still be a douchebag.
  • 4 1
 @therealnobody: the difference between freedom an freedumb?
  • 1 0
 @Chuckolicious: I liked the shockz for that reason. I stopped using them when I realized how loud I listened to them in a quiet room. Combine that with an audiologist telling me they've seen multiple cases where young adults are displaying signs of hearing damage and likely contributed to my tinnitus.
  • 1 2
 @naptime: are you doing ok today?
  • 1 2
 @therealnobody: fine fanx, you?
  • 1 4
 @wobblegoblin: LOL but most likely youre just poor
  • 3 2
 @devinkalt: Mountain lion populations are getting much denser around where I live. I see it as an opportunity for natural selection to play a more central role with our species.
I imagine those runners/riders with both ears plugged will be among the first to go.
  • 3 1
 @RayDolor: LOL. Maybe learn a thing or two about Pumas. Best hearing in the world and if one is stalking you you’ll literally never know it until it’s on your back and severing your cervical spine with its teeth. Good luck.
  • 4 1
 @Chuckolicious: these unhappy comments have gotten considerably more gruesome lately. Pinkers, we doing ok? Same team??
  • 1 0
 @Chuckolicious: clever girl
  • 109 1
 Not so worried about the downtube when that poor stanchion is right on the corner of the tailgate
  • 62 2
 So? You can scratch both in one go. It's not like you gonna ever need all that fork travel anyways
  • 3 1
 THIS ^^^
  • 2 5
 Why would you be worried about either?
  • 57 0
 The stanchions aren’t gold so it’s pretty much useless anyway. A few scratches will probably lessen the insane amount of friction from the black coating.
  • 2 11
flag fucktoryteam (Nov 19, 2023 at 12:00) (Below Threshold)
 Not worried about rich spending money in poor bikeshops... It's another way of stealing rich to give it to the poors.. like Balenciaga, by the way...
  • 11 0
 buy an orange they’re box shaped plate metal too, matching refrigerator look
  • 1 0
 bro do you even drive?
  • 4 4
 Its not like the bike in that photo will ever be used for mountainbiking so who cares.
  • 1 1
 I want to know what size frame that is. Because if it's an S2 then most of our bikes won't fit anyway,,
  • 1 0
 @trifecta: check out mine!
  • 107 1
 You could use that towel skirt as a bike pad for the cyber truck.
  • 23 1
 dicktowel.com
  • 1 0
 I See what you Did there.... And i AGREE...
  • 11 1
 @WeaselSqueezer: hmmmm....not clicking on that.
  • 6 0
 @takeiteasyridehard:
It’s from Always Sunny in Philadelphia. It is a joke.
  • 5 0
 @WeaselSqueezer: Ahh got it. Thanks. Most pop culture is straight past me.
  • 2 0
 I am firmly convinced that so-called fashion isn't actually real. Like, look at this guy's outfit. Shades that look like mutated swim goggles, short and tight black zip up, and a literal towel. This from the cutting edge of fashion, for.... $2000.

Yeah, fashion isn't real anymore
  • 2 0
 @intelligent-goldfish: you are just uncultured swine and don't get it. I would pay 3k for this in a heart beat Big Grin
  • 2 0
 Don't get your cargo pants all tied up in a towel - skirt knot
  • 1 0
 @intelligent-goldfish: I wasn't at all sure that was a dude...
  • 2 0
 @RayDolor: damn, how fugly girls are in your area? Big Grin
  • 104 11
 Sick of these generic etiquette videos. Be safe and friendly. Otherwise do your thing and let others do theirs. No need to act like your local rules apply worldwide. And always go as fast as possible within control.

Here are some tips that most middle aged Karens don't think about though:

- If you find someone's water bottle/wallet/etc. don't empty it before pretending to be a good person and leaving it where they will find it. You still suck.

- speak tf up if you want to pass or back tf up. Ain't nobody got eyes in the back of their head or read minds.

- if you/your group stops, chill on the side of the trail, not in the middle of it.

- turn your shitty music off.

- don't remove features or in general be such a self absorbed twat you actually alter a trail to better fit your skillset/prefs.

- you are not the trail Police. The trails aren't your country club.
  • 6 1
 +100 for this guy. Saying the quiet part out loud.
  • 18 1
 @wobblegoblin: Not that I disagree with anything you wrote here, but I’m getting mixed signals.
  • 23 2
 Here's my etiquette hot take, since beating around the bush is annoying. Weekly MEGA group rides of over that are over 20-30+ riders consistently is annoying AF.

Golfers limit themselves to groups of 4 or less on paid for private courses, but we have regular businesses(cough brewery) sponsored rides(by sponsored i mean they don't contribute shit but the riders go and spend a shit ton of money there afterward) where 50-60 riders will rip through the open space and make every other user get out of there way even though it takes 5-10 min for the full train of riders to pass. /rant
  • 2 0
 @pbfan08: couldn’t possibly agree more!
  • 10 0
 I mean, stop blindly following IMBA rules and just be nice. If someone is ripping downhill, let them by and cheer them on. If someone is climbing a tough climb, let them by and cheer them on. If in doubt either way, just ask.
  • 4 0
 @thustlewhumber: those are US Forest Service rules, not IMBA.
  • 109 33
 Also must mention trail dog etiquette. If you ride with a trail dog: don’t.
  • 42 10
 My favorite was when somebody pulled over to let me pass (Nice!) but then their dog stopped in the middle of the trail and stared at me. The owner said "Just ride at her and she'll move!" (WTF? No, thanks.)
  • 24 3
 @barp: I know, I hate that. I got bit on the trails one time. Owner says, "don't worry, the dog doesn't bite."
  • 36 6
 I love dogs, my ex wife and I had a lot of rescues through the years (side effect of her being a Veterinary Technician). But I can't stand trail dogs. Had on chase me for a solid quarter mile, I was completely out of view of the owner before the dog finally stopped, and the owner could be heard shouting.

Also, my first rescue was dog aggressive. I could never take her anywhere. I always had her on a leash, but everyone liked to just let their dogs wander around and say "Oh, Rex is friendly!" "Well mine isn't!" And then I was the a*shole.
  • 30 1
 @JSTootell: It is a problem, the top 10% of trail dogs are fine on certain trails but about 100% of humans that mountain bike with a dog think that their dog is one on those 10%.
  • 28 36
flag covekid (Nov 19, 2023 at 18:04) (Below Threshold)
 I’ll always ride with my trail dog. He has more trail ediquette than 50% of the mountain bikers I come across.
  • 14 0
 @JSTootell: well said. I got a border collie pup two years ago wanting to make her a trail dog, but she has some aggression issues (and will at the very least bark her head off at almost everyone), so I don’t ride with her. I still love her to death, but she isn’t going to be a trail dog because I don’t want to interrupt other peoples rides because my dog is misbehaving.
  • 16 4
 @covekid: Maybe so, but other riders don't know that, and since people can't predict what your dog will be like, we have to assume the worse.
  • 56 0
 Best trail dog story. A buddy was riding with his brother when bro decides it's time to stop to take a dump. Just as he's finished, a random dog walks up followed later by it's owner. Dog is sniffing around the poo, then old mate dog owner apologises for what he thinks the dog has done, scoops up the human poo in a bag and gets going again leaving my buddy and his bro dumbfounded as to what just happened.
  • 6 18
flag trillot (Nov 19, 2023 at 23:27) (Below Threshold)
 @Jdricks: feel sorry for your dog. Do you know how much exercise a border collie needs? Just walking at the dog park is almost cruel. All these people that knew a guy, who had a sister, who dated a guy, who read on facebook about some kid that got chased by a dog... and now want dogs banned. Wow, guess haters gonna hate. What do these people do when they run into a bear on the trail or ???
  • 14 15
 Yeah nah. Good trail dogs are cool AF. I just rode with my mates one an hour ago and she was rad. Welcome on any of my rides
  • 19 5
 Broke my elbow in half (and some ribs) avoiding a dog that ran out in front of me on a bike trail. 8 years on and I can't fully straighten my arm and I get still pain while riding. So yeah, if you're riding public trails leave your dog at home
  • 13 0
 @loganbeck: I have a set of permanent scars from a dog that doesn't bite. It was a pretty good ride until I came across his two dogs from Hell.
  • 20 9
 @Karlos97: another trail dog story. Riding a couple days ago, and this puppy comes running up the trail at me. Of course, going uphill, they had right of way so I pulled over and said hi. Dog was so cute and excited, just being out in the woods, free (kind of like riding a bike), with his people - seemed like best day of his life; probably happier than I've ever seen someone out riding a bike. Funny, it was best part of my ride. Makes you think - sometimes you need to stop and smell the roses. Otherwise you just become a crusty old fart - grumbling about trail dogs, kicking puppies and drowning cats in the river, thinking about no one but yourself - then you wonder why you don't have a girlfriend.
  • 7 3
 @coney: ok, but that means your mate is inviting his dog on my ride as well. Have him give me and every other trail user a call to make sure it's cool next time
  • 7 2
 Trail dogs are are amazing until they ain’t.
  • 7 21
flag covekid (Nov 20, 2023 at 8:03) (Below Threshold)
 @Fill-Freakin: Assume away. My pup is still
coming with me every ride. No laws against it.
  • 2 1
 I think part of trail dog etiquette is you have to accept the delays caused by people who love dogs and are gonna stop and pet your dog and tell him he's a good boy.
  • 5 0
 There are some dog owners who trained their dogs to be great on trails and one of my friends actually picks up the poop and rides with the poop in the bag through the whole trail ride. This is what I call responsible dog owner who actually cares for the trail and for others. I see so many dog owners that let their dumb dogs run like crazy or dogs that aren't friendly and I have to get my bear spray out. These dog owners also let their dogs shit everywhere and their shit aren't picked up or if they're picked up, the bags are left on trailside for someone else to pick them up.
  • 14 0
 I think the problem is not dogs...or music... but rather empathy and trying to exist in space in a way that doesn't negatively impact the experience of others regardless of your assumed rights. If you can ride with a high likelihood of not negatively impacting others experience and no major risks than less of an issue. If your assumption is others should cater to your use of the public space in a way that negatively impacts their experience- whether it's dogs, ebikes, music, trail braiding etc.- to me it is all spokes from the same hub and you are the issue. I ride with a dog from time to time- but am very mindful of his potential impact on others and have worked hard to keep him out of others way, happy to have him heel and pull off the trail with me for other users. We also spent a lot of time training him to ride safely with us and live in an area where I can pick trails mindful potential impact on others with lots of space and low likelihood of high traffic (bump into one-two groups on the trail typically). He loves biking potentially more than me and am happy he gets to enjoy it. More than happy to leave him at home though. Ride your bike and don't be a d@#k.
  • 5 2
 @JSTootell: oh look, their dog is off leash, must be fine for all dogs
  • 59 6
 Hey! That’s my cybertruck photo haha
www.pinkbike.com/photo/25878338
  • 50 0
 You forgot your tailgate pad
  • 37 17
 @devinkalt: he also forgot his modesty
  • 30 0
 Hey at least you've got a nice bike
  • 32 2
 @pipomax: Drive a cybertruck and ride an S-Works...modesty already out the window.
  • 6 54
flag bothebiker FL (Nov 19, 2023 at 8:45) (Below Threshold)
 Hey Elon your not a real MTBer if your not driving a GAS truck.
  • 11 0
 Why's it a different bike?
  • 3 5
 @RusMan: to show different bikes will fit. That's not clear to anybody who owns a Cybertruck.
  • 22 3
 @RusMan: I had two bikes at the time. The enduro was up for sale. I took the photo to get some buyer attention. Instead it went viral and I sold it to a guy who contacted me before I even took the photo lol
www.pinkbike.com/u/gserrato/buysell/sold
  • 6 2
 Looks sharp!
  • 12 2
 @gserrato: What's funny is that it went viral because people thought you couldn't fit a MTB in a cybertruck. I guess there's a lot of people that don't realize that's how people put their MTB's in a truck.
  • 14 8
 How are the panel gaps my guy lol? Is the interior creaking like on an american car from the 90s?
  • 4 1
 @pipomax: and his good taste.
  • 5 1
 @bothebiker: dude, it’s you’re (x2).
  • 44 15
 @Fill-Freakin: it went viral because the Cybertruck is so dumb and ugly.
  • 14 1
 I want to downvote you for buying that monstrosity. But also upvote you for calling out photo plagiarism. So it's a draw and I'll leave your votes alone.
  • 2 0
 You have a Cybertruck? Have they started being available to the public?
  • 3 0
 @barp: I'm in the same boat, but if he likes that truck then he likes it and I'm not the one that has to drive it. Pretty cool that it's his photo being internet famous for a hot minute.
  • 42 2
 @barp: the truck isn’t available yet. Drops on the 30th of this month. I’ve got a friend who works at Tesla and part of his role is testing. So I said let me throw my bikes in the back for a photo next time you have one. Yadda yadda yadda, viral photo with almost no credit given lol
  • 1 0
 @gserrato: Hey, Did your friend let you drive it? If so, was it dual motor or Tri?
  • 7 1
 @PHX77: I didn’t drive it but I have been in a couple of them now. And to be honest I was too excited to just be cruising in one to ask.
  • 19 20
 @gserrato: that’s awesome man. I’m jealous. I am order number 250,000 and I can’t wait to get it.
  • 12 10
 @PHX77: You don't know the price or the range, must be a real Elon stan if you really are dying to buy one.
  • 22 28
flag PHX77 (Nov 19, 2023 at 17:25) (Below Threshold)
 @Snowytrail: I have to admit IlI don’t know what an “Elon stan” is, but I’m guessing you’re calling me some sort of fanboi, which is accurate. My current Tesla is the best car I’ve ever driven. it was the price of a Toyota Tacoma, accelerates as fast as a 2014 Ferrari 458 and cost me $30 a month in electricity to run. I don’t think I’ll ever have a non-electric car again. Tesla Uber Alles! The approx price has been leaked and it’s about what I figured it would be. The battery size (100kwh) has been announced a while back in one of the company filings, and the range from that will be good enough for me.
  • 14 6
 People said the Model 3 was gonna fail too and now they feel as common as a Civic.
  • 22 18
 @PHX77: Here comes Godwin's Law, but you're literally praising a beneficiary of Apartheid by using the slogan of the Nazi party...
  • 10 23
flag PHX77 (Nov 19, 2023 at 19:48) (Below Threshold)
 @barp: Tesla's are f*cking rad!
  • 15 11
 @Snowytrail: I have to apologize to you, Old Chap, my last reply was too wordy. I do know the price and range.

Price: I can afford it

Range: Enough
  • 15 24
flag KickFlipABike (Nov 19, 2023 at 22:38) (Below Threshold)
 @barp: This probably will seem crazy to you, but its very possible to praise someones achievements and enjoy a product their company makes, without participating in woke virtue signaling to try to score internet points because you have massive insecurities in your life and this is the only way you feel like you are doing something right.
  • 28 15
 @KickFlipABike: Feck off about my supposed virtue signaling; he's a horrible person whose "achievements" are dubious, and I'm not giving him any of my money. Or are you just signaling that you have no virtues? Your own insecurities and projection are shining brightly through your comment.
  • 2 0
 Even the guy with the first Cybertruck runs GX AXS.
  • 2 2
 @barp: he gets it. You're of higher moral standing.
  • 18 6
 @barp: Bought Twitter valued at around $30 billion for $44 billion and its now worth about $19 billion in addition to being absolutely swarming in misinformation. He's smert.
  • 3 2
 @Adamrideshisbike: That's a great way to sarcastically dismiss anybody who makes you feel bad about acting immorally, ain't it? Good job.
  • 3 8
flag Adamrideshisbike (Nov 20, 2023 at 9:13) (Below Threshold)
 @barp: you know nothing about Musk's background but take a high moral tone while getting angry that someone points out your high moral tone. Sins of the father, guilt by association. You'd fit right in with the Puritans and McCartyites.
  • 9 7
 @barp:

>Feck off about my supposed virtue signaling

>Proceeds to literally virtue signal in the next sentence.

Me personally? I mean, I COULD take the position that I disagree with Musk, and chose to not buy a Tesla on ideological reasons (and there are valid points one could certainly make).

But all that gets me is some minor points with people who pretty much DGAF about me on every single level, DGAF about all the workers that take home a salary that Tesla employs, DGAF about supporting cleaner forms of transportation, and DGAF about nuances in lieu of desperately trying to point out how shitty people are and how they are better then that.

Or I could make the much smarter decision to get something that is very useful in day to day life.

I mean you are never going to see it this way because you live in Portland and are surrounded by people like yourself, and if you don't adopt this groupthink you are going to feel very lonely, so its totally understandable why you would feel this way.

Looking forward to more virtue signaling from your next comment.
  • 1 0
 @gserrato : You forgot to use the towel skirt to protect the paint on your bike!
  • 2 1
 @Fill-Freakin: @Fill-Freakin: The normal media was all over this angle. Obvioulsy those people that hate free speech and are too tribal to consider individual things on their merits if they originate from the "wrong" camp.
  • 2 4
 @barp: @barp: You're reminding me of the end of a bell for some reason
  • 3 10
flag jaame (Nov 20, 2023 at 10:52) (Below Threshold)
 @KickFlipABike: I've never wanted a Tesla or any other electric vehicle UNTIL NOW! The hate the Cybertruck has received from all the absolute cocks of the world is making me want one so badly!
  • 9 4
 @Adamrideshisbike: I guess I need to be more specific when I'm talking to people who are ignorant by choice. He inherited racism but also continues to encourage it, or at least allow it, at the businesses he runs. Look it up if you dare.

You fit right in a dunce cap. Or a Klan hood, perhaps.
  • 1 0
 @gserrato everyone is focused on the cybertruck, but kudos for selling that Enduro! Looks slick, but the market is sh*t today and Specialized dropped prices like crazy. I have a similar bike (but no cybertruck), and it will have to die on the hills of Whistler someday...
  • 1 5
flag Adamrideshisbike (Nov 20, 2023 at 12:45) (Below Threshold)
 @barp: dang! You play hard! That's the last time I'll try to insult you! Ouch!
  • 6 2
 @jaame: To be fair, F150 Lightnings are coming down in price (at least in US), and they are objectively better. You can use them as backup power for the house, the suspension design is more standard so you can throw a leveling kit with 34 tires which are great for offroad, the bed is way more useful, and they are on the second year next year so any issues are likely resolved.
  • 1 1
 @noapathy: did you not read how this pic came about? It’s not his truck, a buddy works for Tesla. How about getting informed before mouthing off
  • 1 1
 Why would anyone drive an e-truck when you can put an electric motor on your mountain bike and drive it directly?
  • 1 1
 @KickFlipABike:

Yeah, and then you can hook up a travel trailer to it and travel 90 miles on a charge....
  • 1 1
 @KickFlipABike: I would love an F150 but they aren't compatible with the UK. Danny Hart once quipped that when he puts his foot down in the F150 he can look in the mirror and see all the pound coins flying out of the exhaust!
  • 1 2
 @jaame: Hahaha, that's probably the reason why Musk is such a dick recently. The market for Model 3s is saturated. Now he needs a new customer base, voila Cybertrucks for the other camp. I hope no offense taken, I would by a Cybertruck right away if I had the money.
  • 2 2
 @noapathy: isn’t modesty an opinion?

Globally, something like a $50k usd annual income puts you in the top 1% of wealth. Thats $24 an hour. Not nothing, but also not a whole lot for most areas in the states. In some places, you’d be living in a tent at $24.

If someone makes $500k a year or has inherited millions, is it unreasonable to drive a $100k vehicle and ride a $10k bike? That would be the equivalent to making $50k a year and driving a $10k vehicle and riding a $1000 bike. I know lots of people making less than $50k driving $20k tacomas and riding bikes worth more than $1000, and you do too.

So what is modesty? Isn’t it subjective? You’re telling me that if you won the lottery, you’d live your life exactly like you do now and your spending habits wouldn’t change at all? I doubt it.

We all participate in a niche sport that is generally only available to those with some expendable income. Our basic needs are met; we have food and water, and enough free time to recreate. The fact that we ride bikes alone can be easily argued as “not modest”.
  • 1 2
 @andrew9: deliveries start November 30th
  • 1 2
 @KickFlipABike: I think what you meant it say is Ford is now losing more money on each F150 Lightning sold and there is actually nothing better about the F150 Lightning. Hence why the production of them recently ground to a halt
  • 2 4
 @silvanoe: Yeah, It’s called being smart and I think you’re referring to the Osborne effect, but in fairness the Model 3 and Cybertruck are different markets. The sales of Model 3 keep going up with low overall inventory and Model Y is on the most sold vehicle in the world list. I’d say he’s doing pretty well and he’s a philanthropist by definition regarding your dick comment, but you’re entitled to your opinion, just like the Swedish union haha
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 @straight-shooter:

- More standard truck platform. Easier to do modifications. For people that go offroad (which would be useful for shuttling more challenging access roads), bigger tires are easy to fit and have enough clearance. Level kit at the front gives you ability to run 34's

- Can be used as a house power source if you lose power (with the specially installed charger) This is not confirmed yet for Cybertruck.

- More useful bed with bigger dimensions and standard shape. Cybertruck has less tiedown points for starters. F150 can take a camper shell, at which point you just need a blow up mattress and you have a very good camping setup, with outlets right in the bed.

- More dealer support across US. You don't have to live close to a Tesla service center.

- Code keypad entry. No longer do you have to bring your keys with you.

- Not first year anymore, unlike the Cybertruck.

The only thing that really Lightning really lacks is the Extended cab, where you get the 6.5 foot bed. If you don't carry people in the backseat often, this would be much better.

Overall, F150s in general have been the smartest truck to get for quite some time, if you actually need truck things, and generally, unless you have the need to go all electric, they are still the trucks to get. Get an XLT with the 3.5tt engine and FX4 package, youll spend less on it than a Tacoma and have more truck for the money.
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 @KickFlipABike: most of your argument are moot points. Go buy a Ford and keep suckling your thumb hahaha….

Looking forward to more uninformed comments coming from your way
  • 53 6
 Instead of 'Slack Randoms', this should be titled 'Stupid S#!t for Morons'.
  • 44 0
 What the hell man, I just bought that towel skirt!
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 @PtDiddy: oh but it looks good on you…
  • 8 0
 @everythingsucks: can’t not read that as Rodney Dangerfield
  • 3 0
 I just bought the truck and 4 bikes…liked the colors. Are they any good?
  • 5 0
 @leadsledpaintrain: looks like the type of skirt you get a free bowl of soup with.
  • 41 1
 I sucked at metalwork in Jr. High, but I'm pretty sure the misshapen box I made looks better than the Cybertruck. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.
  • 47 0
 Yup. It’s the Pontiac Aztec of our generation. I’d argue the Aztec was actually better looking. Nothing uglier on the road at the moment….
  • 12 0
 Someone was playing too much Minecraft when they designed that thing.
  • 13 0
 @MOBrules: Minecraft and LSD. You'd have to be on some serious drugs to buy one as well
  • 60 0
 I designed the cyber truck in the 80's. I was 4 years old and drew a triangle sitting on a rectangle with wheels. It too was bulletproof from Megatrons lasers
  • 1 0
 @SacAssassin: hahahah! Beautiful
  • 9 0
 It looks like an industrial kitchen on wheels.
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flag PHX77 (Nov 19, 2023 at 15:27) (Below Threshold)
 @covekid: the cyber truck is so rad. I cannot wait to get mine!!
  • 1 0
 @covekid: 5,000 Battlestar Galactica fans say you’re wrong.
  • 11 0
 Funny how people still get turned on by this, when the Rivian actually exists.
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 @JSTootell: the rivian looks like a Nissan cube turned into a pickup. No thanks.
  • 4 1
 @JSTootell: The Rivian is rad too!
  • 4 0
 Cyber truck = Tesla / Pole collab
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 @SacAssassin: You just described the exact design process that resulted in the cybertruck. Just replace the actual 4 year old with a mental 4 year old.
  • 2 0
 It's unfortunate that the Cybertruck won't fit under my counter to wash dishes!
  • 18 0
 Surron in the bed would be more appropriate
  • 2 0
 Nah, you need more support when hanging the Surron back on the wall after taking Insta pics.
  • 16 2
 Cybertruck: Gen Z El Camino
  • 9 1
 El Caminos had good years though.
  • 6 0
 Can we just get an electric rusted out El Camino?
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 @everythingsucks: They did, it wasn't a bad concept just poor execution.
  • 2 1
 @wobblegoblin: Gen Z can’t afford a cyber truck.
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 @TheR: Yep, and Elmo Mush is from Gen X (hey, that's his favorite letter!)
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 @Rhymer: There are shops that will do that for you.
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 @everythingsucks: My friend's dad had a black 70 SS 454
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 @everythingsucks: Remember, that's Spanish for "The Camino".
  • 2 0
 @danger13: Just like Ford's "Ranchero" is Spanish for "Ranchero"?
  • 2 1
 Cybertruck‘s a virtual penis enlargement and looks like a buch of half-drunk metal-shop trainees welded it together out of scrap sheets of stainless steel.
All in all a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.
  • 1 0
 @barp: I take it you never watched "That 70s Show"?
  • 1 0
 @danger13: I did, but can't say it made much of a lasting impression on me.
  • 1 0
 @barp: No sense of humor, eh?
  • 1 0
 @danger13: I hope you're wrong, because I was also making a joke.
  • 11 0
 You're telling me that Dakine haven't released a Cybertruck tailgate pad yet?
  • 7 1
 Ghosted elon face camo pattern
  • 1 0
 Towel skirt beat them to it!
  • 9 0
 Ahh, it's the MTB version of iPhone without a case
  • 7 0
 Next up: anonymous facebook post shows a cybertruck with a Domino's temperature-controlled pizza oven, showing the truck bed is big enough for whomever is hungry.
  • 8 1
 And then a cyber truck cruising down the street with the bed converted to a hot tub and everyone wearing $1,000 balenciaga towels, while they toss slices of dominoes pizza to the poors as they pass by.
  • 4 0
 @Muckal: driven by two Karen's that like to tell everyone else how to act up don't follow their own "rules".
  • 1 0
 @boopiejones: Hot Tub Time Machine!
  • 8 0
 You’d think with a cyber truck and e-bike there would be some kashima in there.
  • 5 1
 All the Kashima flaked of voluntarily, upon seeing the lack of a tailgate pad
  • 2 4
 Kashima is the way to catch attention of big pockets who don't know anything about Our sport when they enter in a bike shop... Don't know why but Works wonders
  • 2 0
 @blueH2Oj : and a gold Eagle cassette. Must be a photoshopped on S-Work logo Wink
  • 4 0
 Kashima coat the whole cybertruck?
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 Balenciaga is a disgusting trashy company. Go through their marketing ads and you won’t want them anywhere around your kids. Shame on PB for giving them any screen time. Do your homework then apologize for not taking the post down sooner.
  • 4 4
 They sell ridiculously expensive stuff, but why would my kids not be allowed to see baggy sweatpants for $1,400 or the "deconstructed jacket" for $6,450? I didn't see any scantily clad models either. Company seems fine for kids.
  • 15 0
 Won't somebody please think of the children?
  • 17 6
 So tired of this cancel culture BS. Just don't spend your money there and STFU.
  • 11 1
 Everyone in the comments was making fun of the Cybertruck until you posted this. Shame on you for giving disgusting and trashy Balenciaga the attention they want. Do your homework then apologize for not taking your comment down sooner.
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 @shagolagal: I’ve already done my homework. Spend your time worrying about $hit that matters unlike a dumb cyber truck. Don’t hate me for pointing out what PB posted. Maybe they didn’t know but now they do. And come on…. Can’t you be more creative in your personal attack than stealing my lines.

@cmi85: I’m tired of cancel culture too but when they run ads targeting young kids in a sexual way, that’s when I have a problem. Hopefully it disturbs you too.

@mi-bike: You may want to look into it a bit further. Last year they posted an ad with a young female child holding a teddy bear dressed up in bondage. Nope, doesn’t seem fine for kids regardless of the price.

My apologies for trying to inform all the PB users of their disgusting ad with kids. You do you, Live and let live, whatever. I think it’s disgusting and I just won’t buy their stuff (@cmi85).
  • 11 1
 @mi-bike: They literally made an S/M themed commercial with children.
  • 1 0
 @RevedOut: Thanks
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 @mi-bike:
No problem. There are PB users that have kids and a lot of kids are on this site. No need to be promoting companies that take advantage of kids. Let’s keep the content centered around biking and some fun slack random stuff.
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 @RevedOut:

Its honestly amazing to me the immaturity of most adults, and the lengths that they go do to "protect" the kids against anything sexual, instead of actually being an adult and sitting down with your kid and having in depth discussions of what it means to be human (sexuality included), so that they can contextualize stuff that they are going to be exposed to anyways.

And then those same adults wonder why their kids are making shitty decisions later on in life.
  • 3 0
 @KickFlipABike:
I understand and agree with what you’re saying. There is however a time in a child’s life that is appropriate to have those conversations. If you see how young the kid is in the ad, it’s easy to realize that she isn’t ready for that conversation.
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 @RevedOut:

>There is however a time in a child’s life that is appropriate to have those conversations.

Yes, and that time is when a child has access to the internet.

Seems like the vast majority of parents out there basically get memory loss as soon as they have a kid, forgetting about how they were curious when they were a kid, and how all the taboo things were exciting. Your kid is going to be exposed to this stuff sooner or later, and the more context he/she has around it, the better he/she will be able to process this. There is plenty of evidence in different cultures that prove this.
  • 4 1
 @KickFlipABike: Regardless of the trueness of your statement I don't think it is ok for a company to promote the us of kids as objects of sexual attraction/attention.
  • 2 1
 @KickFlipABike:
I’m not disagreeing with you about being good parent and getting ahead of the game but that doesn’t mean putting your young child in a bondage themed ad. I’m not trying to be a smart a$$ but I would really like read any evidence that supports your point. Message me any links you have. All we can do is educate ourselves and do the best for our kids.
  • 1 0
 DoubleCrownAddict back in disguise. You're hilarious.
  • 1 0
 @opignonlibre: You are right.

But that doesn't mean that your kid isn't going to be exposed to stuff if he/she is on the internet.
  • 1 0
 @RevedOut: One example is teen sexual health in Netherlands, where sexual education in the family is way more prominent, where parents discuss sexual things with kids at an early age, as a result teens have way fewer sexual partners than the rest of Europe and overall better sexual health.

The reason for this is simple human psychology in 2 effects, and applies to all things developmental with kids.

First is desire for self autonomy that seems to be intrinsic to healthy mental state. When you can do something that someone else tells you is forbidden, especially when that something gives you a dopamine boost, it makes you feel good.

Second is leaned behavior from other things like candy, entertainment. When you know those things are good as a kid, but your parents forbid you from eating them, you learn the association between things that are forbidden that are also good.

Because parents in Netherlands are very open about sexuality, and encourage kids to participate in sexual behaviour, there isn't as aspect of "forbidden fruit" to it, so the above two effects don't apply, which means teens can contextualize this a lot better.

And you can extend this to other things as well. Engage in your kids curiosity, establish yourself as a source of trust. Instead of forbidding your kid from viewing things when they express curiosity, encourage discussion, build thought patterns around contextualizing things. Kids aren't dumb, and the neuroplasticity in their brains is way higher than adults. The difference between someone engaging with anything sexual in good ways versus bad is dependent on repeated learned behaviors, which you as a parent have very good control over.
  • 2 0
 I wonder if the pinkbike tech admins have a way to make a graph of pinkbike users who, after clicking watched more of:
Racing Giant Lego Cars vs Building a rocket bird

I'd have more faith in humanity and the users of this website, if it leaned more towards rocket bird.
  • 3 0
 One data point for Lego cars. I assume that generalizes to all pb users. Sorry about your view of humanity
  • 5 1
 How do you feel about people like me, who watched neither?
  • 1 0
 I didn’t want to be stuck watching an ad for a product I have no intention of buying, so I clicked neither.
  • 4 0
 That cybertruck picture is from the buy/sell here… dude sold the bike pretty quickly.
  • 3 0
 Pretty impressive work on the rocket bird. Also impressive is that leonardo da Vinci designed an ornithopter in the 1480s'!
  • 3 0
 Insects use their wings quite differently to how birds use them. With the exception of hummingbirds possibly. Back when I started my studies in 1999 there was a student called David Lentink who put little insects in the windtunnel to learn how they actually fly. Not that much later they started the Delfly project (www.delfly.nl) where they indeed build simple, small and lightweight flying robot-insects. One thing they're experimenting with now is for them to fly in a swarm. This way they can for instance inspect a collapsed building and even though a few of them won't make it back, they'll still be able to deliver a more complete picture than you'd get with fewer and more advanced drones.
  • 6 0
 Birds aren't real. Proof
  • 2 0
 @twozerosix: Wait until they put ChatGPT into this thing!
  • 4 0
 That Dominos eBike does wicked wheelies!
  • 3 0
 I think Anneke meant "giving the *right of way* ", but I'm sure her English is still better than my Dutch.
  • 3 0
 So - you use the Balenciaga towel as a tailgate pad on your cybertruck...problem solved.
  • 2 0
 Funny that a road bike site used that same photo to prove that it doesn't fit a bike. Not sure if they're aware that's how people carry bikes in trucks.
  • 3 0
 Etiquette 101 - when approaching a circle jerk in the woods just keep riding , no pics or video . Thanks
  • 1 0
 What's the polite way to try to join the circle? Or is this an invite-only situation?
  • 2 0
 According to Tesla the CT bed is half a foot longer than an F150 short box.
  • 2 0
 So 6.5 feet.
  • 1 0
 Sorry. 6 feet or 1.83 meters.
  • 7 0
 @generictrailrider: yeah but it's not the size of your CT bed that matters, it's how you use it.
  • 1 1
 @generictrailrider: missed opportunity for twss
  • 2 1
 @mi-bike: nah not really. That saying is so played out and pretty stupid. Cheers!
  • 7 5
 Does cybertruck mean high net worth, or negative net worth with all the debt?
  • 8 0
 I guess it has to do with the persons assets minus debts.
  • 2 0
 Probably dependent on the individual, bud.
  • 2 0
 Phew, glad I was able to get my Towel Skirt order in before Christmas. Bargain!
  • 3 0
 Timber bell y'll, Timber Bell
  • 3 0
 Who buys a Cybertruck and 10k bike but cant afford a tailgate pad?
  • 2 0
 for sale...... heated dew rag $525US. Just insert heat packs between yer hair and rag. Accepting orders now!
  • 2 0
 Ebike pizza oven?

Call me old fashioned but I like my pizza 30 minutes late and stone cold.
  • 3 0
 Its impossible to make the cybertruck look cool. Dumbest thing of all time
  • 2 0
 All he needed to land that upside down rail was a swig of Red Bull.
  • 2 1
 Blue tooth speakers and ebikes blowing out corners and trying to pass on tight singletrack..beat it.
  • 1 0
 Bath Towels don't stay soft forever, especially after cleaning up dog throw-up.
  • 2 1
 I’m just here to see how many idiots (often from a certain country) write Legos, when it’s actualy Lego!
  • 3 0
 Hilux>cybertruck.
  • 1 0
 Would anyone be upset if the publication format just switched completely to pizza oven reviews?
  • 3 2
 that bike wont last very long without padding on the truck!!!
  • 2 0
 From what I understand from the public release of that truck, the truck is pretty vulnerable too. Wouldn't the bike damage the tailgate?
  • 1 0
 Wonder what the rear headroom is like in that beast.
  • 2 1
 This is what I come to Pinkbike for!
  • 1 0
 I mean it’s free content.
  • 1 0
 Pretty sure they modeled the cybertruck after a drawing I did in grade 1.
  • 1 0
 PinkBike trail police need to not
  • 2 0
 April already?
  • 2 1
 Ok I’m interested in e-bikes now
  • 1 0
 Balenciaga's $925 Towel Skirt
Fein IKEA
  • 1 1
 Balenciaga, the company that makes ads with sexualised infants/childrens, right?
  • 1 1
 Just want to say Tesla makes the best vehicles! Which means this will be downvoted and soon hidden.
  • 8 8
 Why am I not surprised that the towel skirt is being modelled by a man.
  • 2 4
 Ever heard of kilts ya dingus?
  • 3 4
 @A1990ToyotaHilux: yes, they are for men, a skirt is for women.
  • 1 1
 @watchtower: Bro, what's the difference? A kilt has every aspect of a skirt, it IS a skirt (it actually is defined as one)
  • 1 1
 @A1990ToyotaHilux: yep, and he ain't wearing a kilt. I've enjoyed your teachings, bro.
  • 1 0
 steam roller
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 clickity click click
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