The cheapest forks in a given brand's lienup often go ignored as something relegated purely to value-minded OE builds and aftermarket bargains, but there's nearly as much design and development behind those models as the flagship ones. With the goal of providing as good a ride as possible to the riders at the lower end of the cost spectrum, RockShox has reworked their Domain and Psylo forks, with new internals and chassis that match their higher-priced compatriots.
The Psylo is the 35mm stanchion option, with the Domain occupying the beefier 38mm bracket. Both cost less than $600 USD, weigh about 200-300 grams more than their Signature series alternatives, and contain the new Isolator RC damper.
Psylo Gold RC Details• 140-160mm travel
• DebonAir air spring
• Wheel size: 27.5" or 29"
• Isolator RC 3-position damper
• Offset: 44mm, 37mm OE only
• Weight: 2,320g (160mm)
• Price: $539 USD, €645, £580
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rockshox.com Domain Gold RC Details• 150-180mm travel
• DebonAir air spring
• Wheel size: 27.5" or 29"
• Isolator RC 3-position damper
• Offset: 44mm
• Weight: 2,501g (180mm)
• Price: $579 USD, €695, £620
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rockshox.com The Isolator RC damper takes a lot of cues from the Charger 3, using a similar spring-backed IFP system thanks to shared ideation between the two projects. Where the Charger aims to offer a pared-down yet effective range of adjustment, the Isolator offers only one: Open or Closed. Yes, there are three positions, but Pedal and Firm feel too close to really differentiate, and Open is where everyone is going to be spending most (if not all) of their time. Don't worry, there's external rebound adjustment as well - you've got everything you need to get the fork feeling set up and ready to ride in short order.
The overall simplicity is key to the Domain and Psylo's appeal, with overall cost obviously taking a front seat as well. Making the system act in a similar way to Charger 3 while keeping cost low led to the system being a non-cartridge based approach, meaning the damper is pretty much baked into the fork. RockShox will be selling the Isolator damper as an upgrade for people who get the lower tier Domain Gold R forks. Those will be OE-only, but keep that upgrade in mind if you purchase a value bike in the coming years.
The air spring side of things is a standard RockShox affair, with a DebonAir spring similar to that on the Signature series forks. You won't be seeing Buttercups on the Domain or Psylo, but the remainder of the equation is essentially the same.
Ride ImpressionsI mounted the Domain up to my Frameworks trail bike, a frame more familiar with the steer tubes of fancier Fox 38s, RockShox Zebs, and the like. The first ride proved surprising, as I found myself loving the fork from the get-go. No, I wasn't immediately convinced it was identical to the counterparts that cost 2x, but the demerits weren't quite that pronounced either.
The Domain is a stout fork, with a very progressive air spring and effective damping in the 170mm travel configuration. My settings ended up pretty dang close to the recommendation chart for my weight, with about 69 psi in the air chamber, 8 clicks of rebound, and the damper set to Open. That setup felt supportive and active, especially on higher speed trails where you're not bearing down on the front so much. In those situations, the fork does move quite a bit, but the ramp-up in the latter half of travel keeps things feeling composed enough.
The overall feeling I'm getting on the Domain is
comfort. The little trail chatter is dulled to a minimum, larger hits are taken care of nicely, and the simplicity of the setup keeps you complacently thinking things couldn't possibly be better.
Heavy, simple, effective.
Of course, there are some downsides, namely in the form of weight and topout. The latter just seems to be a factor regardless of my rebound speed, but is most notable at higher speeds as you might expect. It's not sharp or particularly noisy - in fact, the fork is nearly silent - but you do feel the dull thwack through your hands as the fork returns out of compressions. The weight is a given, and unsurprising considering the price of the Domain. At about 200 grams more than a Zeb, I'm not terribly upset at the end result. My Frameworks is far from a light bike as is, so the added grams don't tip the scale too drastically, but I do think lighter chassis will be effected more negatively by a fork that weighs five and a half pounds.
Overall, I'm very impressed so far. This fork will remain on my bike for quite a while, and I'm keen to see how things age change with time.
And why are there so many kids on MY damned lawn?!
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It used to be Recon I think was cheap Pike but that's changed.
As long as they don't bring back the Indy name we're all good (unless they also intend on bringing back elastomers and as much back/forth flex as up and down).
As far as I understood it -
Recon -> Sektor
Reba -> SID
35 -> Revelation -> Pike
Yari -> Lyrik
Domain -> Zeb
Now it's just -
Recon
Reba -> SID
Psylo -> Pike/Lyrik
Domain -> Zeb
Amazingly they still work!
could just buy a pike/lyrik from 2015 onwards
m.pinkbike.com/news/first-look-marzocchis-new-super-z-38mm-fork.html. Then they show off their latest colours which is a copy of the old pyslo....
Then rockshox off a similar fork for ~$400 less, minus the spandau ballet colour.
Bravo Rockshox.
Apologies.
I only ask because I'm now over 2 decades into this sport and sometimes like to shake my cane at all this new fangled stuff. It really is amazing how much better suspension is, budget to baller, these days in general though. I feel like the progress both in mtb and dirtbike suspension in the last 5 years alone has been more dramatic than any other time in the last 20 years.
2014 Fox Factory 36 Fit 4 vs 2024 Fox 36 Performance would be a good test
Alternatively,
2010 RS domain vs 2024 RS domain
My first bike had 2010 Fox 36, I didn't know you need to service it, I didn't even know you need to lube a chain... seriously... I just though you ride a bike and that is it.
Anyway, 3 years later getting into MTB, riding in Kickin Horse and etc, washing it with pressure washer, my 36 were still working absolutely fine. All this while foam rings disintegrated, inside of the lowers was water mixed with oil and sand, lowers were corroded from inside ( gross AL corrosion that looks like mold), stanchions started to sand down the walls lol.
As I am thinking about it now it was pure nightmare. But forks were still working, because they worked like shit brand new, and continue to work like shit even after they started to run water\oil\sand mix
But I might be wrong
Otherwise, yeah, new stuff is amazing. I had a paper route to buy a Manitou 1 one summer, though, so I'm a dinosaur. Everything even vaguely modern feels great to me!
2003-ish I had an original Psylo that was good fun for about 1 day until the U-turn adjust stopped working and it started bleeding oil and then lost all rebound damping. Lasted less than 1 year until it was basically unrideable. At least it looked cool at the time.
2004-ish I had a manitou black that was solid until the travel adjust stopped working and then it got stuck in the compressed position. local shop said it was either unfixable or not worth fixing, that was after about a year
2006 ish I had a marzocchi drop off that lost all rebound damping after less than a year and turned into a heavy cool looking pogo stick
2008-ish had a manitou sherman that looked awesome, rode great, travel adjust and all then it just turned into a brick stuck in the compressed position after less than a year riding (bought it used)
In the 'modern' era I've abused, and been unable to break a Lyrik, Pike, and 35 Gold. All going well past their regular service intervals without complaint and still running strong.
So in short the early 2000's stuff was hot trash and the modern stuff works better, more reliable and does fine with minimal attention
those budgetforks are way better than people assume
My Pike Base with Rush Damper has better off the top than the Ultimate I used to own but nothing beats a DVO for small bump pleasure!
Have you torn your forks apart? Initially I was super unimpressed with my Pike RC forks, but had a vacuum problem or clogged equalization port between the negative and positive chambers. After breaking a sweat to equalize pressure by pulling up on the bars and pushing down on the brake arch I got them to equalize, followed by a service which included a new seal head/design in the rebuild kit, and I had a totally different feeling fork
The grip2 34 on the other hand was great. Just enough progression with really supple beginning and nice mid stroke support.
"RockShox’s new product addition is the Psylo, replacing the Revelation, Yari, and 35 series forks."
So it's a good disposable fork
I assume these prob are gonna have same issues
Who knows, maybe I was doing something wrong.
I think I could have gotten the charger rc to work better, but I got a wicked deal on a charger 2.1 damper.
new DH bike will have a formula nero C which i hope will be much better.
This is a great move on their part and definitely will be taking a swing at companies in those lower brackets. Marzocchi/Suntour, etc.
I like it. Now wheres is Fox's entry level 38?
No hint of coil options for these then?
Revelation is the only one that doesn't seem to have an association...
As a long time Christian, I don't see any wierd themes in the names. But t was fun making up some.
Some other use the word abrahamic religions to mention judaism, christianism and islam as they all have the same common yahwist/judaist root.
It might not seem obvious because both Judaism and Christianity have evolved for 20 centuries afterwards. The judaism we know today is not the same as 2000 years ago.
Judy - from Judea, Judah, Jude, Judaism
Tora - the Torah, Hebrew religious text
Zeb - Zebadiah, Biblical character
Duke - David Duke, massive wrong un but identifies as Christian
Pike - Albert Pike, massive Freemason foretelling a WW3 based on religions
Revelation - the last book in the Bible
Boxxer - er, the occupation of Samson in the Bible
Sorry if that offends any Christian folks out there, I'm sure you'll forgive me though.
You really had to reach far for the Boxxer-Samson comparison. Samson was not a boxer; he was a warrior that fought against the Philistines. He was in his share of brawls, but in no way was it "boxing". There is literally no meat on that bone.
You did mention "Freemason". We all know that is associated with Christian conspiracies. It least, that is what the History Channel tells us.
Don't worry about offending people. You’re not being rude; you’re just making your point. But yes, I probably would have forgiven you.
At almost every point in my riding "career" low cost alternatives were always worth the first look. Stupid road bike is an exception.
I have neither the money nor the skills, to explain myself to a man who rides and tests under the blanket of the very journalistic duty his employer provides, and questions the manner in which I spend either of said money or skills.
(Edited movie quote prompted by some unsolicited strong feelings about lower tier component value. Sorry-ish.)