Hardtail Roundup: 17 Compelling & Progressive Options

Jan 17, 2024 at 14:25
by Dario DiGiulio  



There's always something new and interesting popping up in the hardtail market, and the current crop of new bikes is no exception. It's been a couple years since we last did a hardtail roundup, so here's a fresh lineup of frames and bikes for the more masochistic out there.





Pipedream Moxie

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Features

• 29" or 27.5"+
• Steel frame
• 64° HTA, 77.5° STA
• 64mm BB drop
• Sizing: Longish, Long, Longer
• 140-170mm fork optimized
• £795 (Frame)
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bigquotesThe Moxie is a quintessentially modern trail hardtail, with good geometry, sensible features, and simple (yet bright) styling. The sliding dropouts are a nice feature, as they allow the end user to adjust chainstay length to their preference or run the bike as a singlespeed, all within a range of 425-441mm. I've spent some time on a Moxie, and though the Long size's 470mm reach was a bit tight for me, the bike was still quite impressive. Overall it feels like a bike meant to be ridden hard, with a beefy tubeset and geometry to match.



Banshee Enigma

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Features

• 27.5" or Mixed Wheel
• Aluminum frame
• 63.5° HTA, 75° STA
• 42mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, L
• 140-160mm 27.5” / 100-130mm 29” Mixed
• $1,149 USD (Frameset)
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bigquotesTrue to its name, the Enigma is a truly unique hardtail in the field of options out there. Focused around small wheels, but with the capability to be run as a mixed-wheel package, the bike combines a very short rear end and slack head angle to make for something quite aggressive and descent-focused. The reach numbers are surprisingly short, but perhaps that was done in the name of agility, in order to offset the otherwise stretched-out package.



Chromag Doctahawk

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Features

• 29" wheels
• Steel frame
• 62.5° HTA, 76.5° STA
• 48mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, M/L, L, XL
• 160-180mm fork
• $1,796.55 CAD (Frame)
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bigquotesWhen the Doctahawk first came out, it just about broke the internet with its extreme geometry, which was pretty much unprecedented for a production bike at the time. Somehow, that wild head angle has started to normalize a bit, with other hardcore hardtails starting to fall in line with the precedent set by this bike. That said, it's still amongst the most extreme, partially because of other distinctly Chromag features, like very short chainstays and fairly low stack height for a given fork travel.

I'm not completely sold on long-travel hardtails as a concept, but the Doctahawk has proven itself on some of the most intense trails in the Sea to Sky, so it might be the ticket for the right rider.



Cotic BFeMax

2020 2021 Hardtail Check Out

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Features

• 29" wheels
• Steel frame
• 65° HTA, 74.5° STA (140f)
• 60mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 120-160mm fork
• £495 (Frame), £1495 (Complete)
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bigquotesWith angles that may seem conservative on paper, the BFeMax draws more from its long wheelbase to achieve stability at speed. That then allows for a slightly steeper head angle than you'd expect, keeping steering a bit sharper than some super-slack options. Top tubes get quite long per size on these, due to the relatively slack seat tube angle and long reaches. A good option for folks who want a more traditional fit feel, versus the more upright and vertical feel of steeper STA bikes. The BFeMax sports a wide range of build kit options, all sporting very good value for the frame quality. Even the frame-only option is one of the better deals going right now.



Radical Grim Ripper

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Features

• 27.5", 29", or Mixed Wheel
• Steel frame
• 63.5° HTA, 77° STA (130f)
• 55mm BB drop
• Sizing: Regular, Long
• 120-140mm fork
• £695 (Frame)
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bigquotesWith a short rear end, sliding dropouts, and a very aggressive front end, the Grip Ripper has quite the name to live up to. Things look pretty compelling, with a slack head angle, short fork travel, and two reach numbers to choose from. They quote the frame as being compatible with any 27.5/29 wheel arrangement, but it's worth noting that there isn't any geometry adjustment to compensate for the changes - you'll just be altering the static geo as you would on any of these. Still, an option worth playing with.



Marin El Roy

2021 Marin El Roy Photographer Andy Lloyd

2021 Marin El Roy Photographer Andy Lloyd
2021 Marin El Roy Photographer Andy Lloyd

Features

• 29" Wheels
• Steel frame
• 63.5° HTA, 77° STA
• 65mm BB drop
• Sizing: Regular, Grande
• 140mm fork
• From $699 (Frame), $2,399 (Complete)
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bigquotesI spent quite a while riding an El Roy, and it still stands as one of the most capable hardtails I've ridden to date. The geometry is planted and fast, with a solid wheelbase per size and a low BB to keep things hooking in the turns. The rear end may look spindly, but it's as stiff as any other hardtail - I'm never one to mention the alleged compliance of a rigid triangle of metal. Luckily, you're hurtling so quickly down trail you'll probably skip over a few of the hits you'd otherwise slam into. The extreme geo of El Roy is certainly biased towards descending though, as the climbing position can feel almost comically upright and a bit cramped for technical sections.



Bird Zero 29

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Features

• 29" Wheels
• Aluminum frame
• 64.3° HTA, 74° STA
• 71mm BB drop
• Sizing: M, M/L, L, XL
• 120-140mm fork
• $583 (Frame), $3,000 (Complete)
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bigquotesI've always been curious about the Zero 29, as it was one of the first aggressive short-travel hardtails to hit the mass market. The geometry has held up for the most part, though a steeper seat tube angle would probably be welcome for most. The a-la-carte build options mean you can go any direction with the build straight from the factory, or simply pick up a slick alloy frame to build yourself. The static BB drop on this is one of the lowest around, which bodes well for some fun corners.



Rocky Mountain Growler

Rocky Mountain Growler 2021 Field Trip

Rocky Mountain Growler 2021 Field Trip
Rocky Mountain Growler 2021 Field Trip

Features

• 29" Wheels
• Aluminum frame
• 64° HTA, 75° STA
• 55mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 130-150mm fork
• $1,119-2,299 (Complete)
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bigquotesRocky's take on the hardcore hardtail is sensible and well-specced, with pricing that still feels reasonable compared to some of the more boutique options in here. None of the geometry numbers are the most extreme, but that's probably to the benefit of most people, as the majority of folks don't have access to the wildest terrain around. This bike tested very well against the pack in our 2021 Field Trip, so rest assured that it packs solid bang for your buck.



Norco Torrent

Norco Torrent S1 review

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Features

• 29" Wheels
• Steel or Aluminum frame
• 64° HTA, 76° STA
• 45mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 150mm fork
• $899 (Frame), $1,519-2,999 (Complete)
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bigquotesSimilar to the Rocky option, but slightly more Norco flavored. The differences between the two are slight, mostly revolving around the rear center length. The Rocky has 10mm more chainstay length on average, with a constant 435mm across the board. Keeping to their Ride Aligned ways, Norco's stays change length per size, with a 420 or 425mm option depending on your frame fit. There are steel and alloy options, and a wide range of prices to cater to your needs and wants.



Nukeproof Scout

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Features

• 29" or 27.5" Wheels
• Aluminum frame
• 64.5° HTA, 74° STA
• 70mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 130-150mm fork
• £500 (Frame), £1,400-3,000 (Complete)
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bigquotesWith a super-low bottom bracket, size-specific chainstays, and otherwise well-rounded geometry (that's three hyphens folks, count em), the Scout is one of the more compelling options on the market if you're looking for something dialed straight out of the box. The alloy frame has a simple layout, the components spec is solid for each price point, and the two wheel size options mean no preference is left out. The Scout has long been a part of Nukeproof's lineup, and the evolution is apparent.



Whyte 909X

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Features

• 27.5" Wheels
• Aluminum frame
• 64.5° HTA, 74.5° STA
• 61mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 130mm fork
• £3,500 (Complete)
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bigquotesIf you want a high-end build kit, excellent geometry, and are committed to the small-wheel lifestyle, then the 909X might be the Goldilocks pick from this bunch. It's far from cheap, but Whyte's "enduro hardtail" looks to be a pretty killer package if you're looking for excellent downhill performance in a quality alloy frame. Like a few of the options here, the availability is a bit questionable, but assuming the full-suspension price range and internal routing are okay with you it could be worth a look.



Priority 600HXT

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Features

• 29" Wheels
• Steel frame
• 65° HTA, 75.5° STA
• 60mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, L
• 140mm fork
• £3,500 (Complete)
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bigquotesThe 600HXT is the first hardtail (and one of the first bikes, really) on the market to feature Pinion's Smart.Shift gearbox, the newly evolved version of their fully-enclosed drivetrain system. The geometry is pretty neutral, but well-suited to varied terrain and hard riding. The sliding dropouts are critical to tensioning the Gates drive, so don't expect to get additional chainstay length out of them like you would with some of the other options here. While the price of the 600HXT is rather high, it is a novel option on the market, catering to a specific niche.



Kona Honzo ESD

Kona Honzo

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Features

• 29" Wheels
• Steel frame
• 63° HTA, 77.5° STA
• 62.5mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 150mm fork
• $699 (Frame), $3,099 (Complete)
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bigquotesWe've already touched on the ESD a number of times, including in a First Ride where Kaz shared some thoughts: When gravity takes over the Honzo ESD is in its element, and at times I found myself forgetting I was on a hardtail... that is, until I was reminded by the vibrations coursing through my bones as I carried too much speed into a rocky section of trail. ... If you're hardtail aficionado who's lucky enough to live somewhere with easy access to steep trails, the Honzo ESD might be the ticket. The standard-issue Honzo is going to be the way to go for riders looking for more of an all-rounder, something that's more manageable and engaging on mellower terrain.



On One Wrekker

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Features

• 29" Wheels
• Titanium frame
• 62° HTA, 77° STA
• 50mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 150mm fork
• $2,697-4,153 (Complete)
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bigquotes458mm chainstays, 62° head angle, long reach numbers, 150mm fork. All ingredients adding up to the most outlandish hardtail on this list, with a massive footprint regardless of size, and angles that are firmly meant for the steepest terrain. I really want to ride this bike (stay tuned to see if that works out), but you'll definitely want to make sure you have the terrain to warrant such a wild creation before pulling the trigger. You could temper the geo a bit by reducing fork travel and downsizing reach accordingly, but overall it does seem like a fairly fleshed out package ready to get rowdy.

If you don't want titanium, or want to save some bucks, then the Hello Dave is a similarly aggressive steel option out of the same warehouse.



Starling Roost

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Features

• Mixed Wheels
• Stainless steel frame
• 64° HTA, 76° STA (140f)
• 69/50mm BB drop
• Sizing: M, L
• 120-160mm fork
• £1220 (Frame), A la carte builds available
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bigquotesAs one of the few dedicated mixed-wheel hardtails out there, the Roost is dedicated to the setup, with optimized geometry and build kits to match. Though you can run a wide range of fork travel, things are optimized around the standard 140mm, which strikes a great balance for most people. The frame itself is built with stainless steel tubing, which not only looks excellent, but should withstand the test of time as well. There are clever build details all around, which helps the value proposition when you're investing in a fairly boutique option. With only two sizes available, the fit range is fairly narrow, but hopefully there's one in there for folks who may be interested.



Haro Saguaro

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Features

• 29" Wheels
• Aluminum frame
• 64.5° HTA, 76.5° STA (140f)
• 70mm BB drop
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 140mm fork
• $1,900-4,000 (Complete)
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bigquotesFreshly released, and representing a major comeback for a recently dormant brand, the Haro Saguaro is a very modern option for those looking for something decidedly downhill-oriented. The geometry is great, the frame has some nice touches (though internal routing is a bummer), and three build kit options hit three distinct price points. See more in the First Look here



Pace RC529

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Features

• 29" or Mixed Wheels
• Steel frame
• 64.5° HTA, 77° STA (140f)
• 65mm BB drop
• Sizing: M, L, XL
• 140-150mm fork
• £789 (Frame), £3369+ (Complete)
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bigquotesAnother newbie, the Pace RC529 sports a modular frame for multiple wheel size options, chainstay length options, and chain tensioning. There are plenty of mounting points, should you need such a thing, and you can even run a Transmission drivetrain on their custom UDH dropout. The geometry is solid, and in line with most of the others here, but like every option in this list it's the little details that are going to draw you in.




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314 Comments
  • 149 2
 i love hardtails
  • 11 3
 Me to..
  • 27 5
 I love trails hard
  • 3 3
 @Hamburgi: me to..
  • 9 10
 i'm hard...i mean...i love hardtails
  • 3 1
 Add me to the list.
  • 1 2
 @Hamburgi: Hardtails, hard trails.
  • 4 1
 Ad me too the list to
  • 2 1
 Yeah, thank you so much Dario Truffle. Hardtails haters are gonna love that!!!
  • 2 1
 Sorry for the late reply, can i still be added to the list?
  • 2 1
 Hard for Hard tails and hard trails tails hard trails hard
  • 1 1
 Me too !
  • 1 1
 Ditto!
  • 3 1
 Didn’t think I did, but then I bought one and I do too.
  • 2 1
 ich auch
  • 1 1
 @ullsen: moi aussi!
  • 2 1
 Yarp.
  • 2 1
 I love/hate hartails.
  • 1 1
 I also, love hardtails.
  • 2 1
 I like lamp...
  • 2 4
 Sickest / sexiest / WTF aggro hardtail on Vital mtb right now
www.vitalmtb.com/community/pepps/radical-all-mountain-grim-ripper
  • 1 1
 Cheers !
  • 57 5
 RSD GOT ROBBED! Good geo, prices and they all have sliding dropouts which should probably be mandatory on all hardtails. I've had an MC and 291 and would buy one again, but am on a Wildcat now cause HTs hurt 
  • 9 1
 Yes to sliding dropouts on all hardtails. Versatility is what makes them so great.
  • 7 0
 Devinci Kobain is on sale everywhere pretty good spec too (deore 12s option of course)
  • 2 0
 You talk like your old or something. Get back on that pain pony.
  • 1 0
 @Slackerdude: Halfway to 90, bro, ancient! haha. Any bike that makes me ride my trails slower is not a win for me. I still like hardtails, but mine just sat for weeks sometimes. The wildcat does the job of giving me something that offers more trail feedback and pop without feeling like something is gonna crack when going fast over rock gardens etc.
  • 1 0
 Agreed!! Where is the RS291?
  • 1 0
 @jesse-effing-edwards: , Good it keeps you riding and having fun...I'll be 60 in a month...still resisting tasting the candy of a fully, Ht still treating me good. Cheers !
  • 2 0
 @Slackerdude: rear suspension is a helluva drug. Ride that hardtail for a couple of weeks, then hit up the squish and ride like you always dreamed you could, haha.
  • 49 3
 If you're making a hardtail frame that costs more than $1k you are missing the mark. Be more like Cotic.
  • 10 0
 Same, Esker Japhy should be up here at less than $1K for a frame. Quad-butted tubes, geo that's spot on with the most balanced of any of these hardtails, perfectly designed sliders for SS/UDH, etc. If you can get past their bikepacking/adventure branding, it's as good a hardtail as anything else.
  • 1 0
 Cotic released SolarisMax with new price of around $1200. Luckily I bought a frame before the price increase. Love it.
  • 2 0
 @GTscoob: love my japhy, way less overbuilt than a Kona esd, etc so you actually benefit from it being steel
  • 37 0
 starling roost mulleted 64 degree HTA stainless steel with not a drop of paint on the whole thing.......mmmmmmmmlemmegetthat
  • 3 0
 So good.
  • 37 2
 Missing the updated Transition Trans Am.
  • 6 0
 TransAM is nice HardtailMTB!I like too!
  • 1 0
 Right? I’m really enjoying mine, really fun “big trail bike” feel to it. Happy camper over here
  • 32 0
 Knolly Tyaughton should be up there, IMO
  • 26 1
 RSD RS-291 Chromoly or Titanium.
  • 18 0
 Or middlechild at that. Really disappointed to not see any RSD on here
  • 7 0
 My RS-291 is fantastic. I'm actually trying it out now with a WolfTooth geoshift headset in the +1* position and the fork set at 140mm to liven it up on flatter trails. Slam that chainstay all the way back and it rips.
  • 12 0
 @Keegansamonster: I own a SERGEANT V4, quite the winter sled w/ 29 x 3.0 tires.
  • 8 0
 RS-291 owner here... Definitely a rig that should be on this list! That steed is is beast and she ripps hard!
  • 7 0
 @FrankS29: I've wondered if a 291 or MC with a shorter fork might workout as a mullet. I had to sell mine to help fund my Wildcat, but regret it even though the Cat gets way more rides in. Steel hardtail is such a thing.
  • 6 0
 @jesse-effing-edwards: Alex has the geo numbers on the chart for the MC to be ran in a mullet configuration.
  • 6 0
 @Keegansamonster: Just in case anyone cared running an MC with a 120mm fork and mulleted would give almost identical geo as stock. I think this could be really fun.
  • 3 0
 @jesse-effing-edwards: That is exactly how I run my MC.
  • 2 0
 @jesse-effing-edwards: I have a 291 frame, but haven't built it up yet. Was going to try it as a mullet...

Whats the worst that could happen?
  • 1 0
 @Canadmos: I'm sure you'll survive, haha
  • 21 0
 Why did you stop at 17? Here's an 18th one...

www.18bikes.co.uk/2021-18-bikes-9-frame.html
  • 2 0
 Thats a pretty sick bike, not a bad price too!
  • 1 0
 By far the best!
  • 1 0
 @danstonQ: I want one of those too ha. I just bought a steel FS bike though and if I get another bike the ole wife will pack her bags for sure ha.
  • 30 9
 Yeti arc punching the air rn
  • 19 0
 I don't know if I'd call the Arc very progressive... The number one comment in reviews of it is "put a longer fork on it so it's slacker"
  • 22 1
 New Ragley Big Wig should have been in this list.
  • 11 2
 I would say any Ragley > Nukeproof Scout if talking about being progressive
  • 7 0
 Or Big Al - have wanted to try one after HP's review
  • 3 0
 @DaveRobinson81: Ragley's are going to be tough to find over here with the CRC/Wiggle challenges.
  • 1 0
 @plyawn: fingers crossed they were turning a profit and someone will keep them going. Not confident though with the prices that Chiggle shoved them out the door for
  • 3 0
 Absolutely love my Marley, so much fun.
  • 1 0
 @plyawn: Yeah, will try to get one next time I am on that side of the pond... or find the factory that makes them - probably lots in stock there!
  • 1 0
 @DaveRobinson81: worth trying one, even better if it has been tweaked from stock.
  • 19 1
 I like how some of the bikes have the head angle in fahrenheit as well for the American readers.
  • 7 1
 Always a Canadian.
  • 13 1
 I got one of the first BansheeEnigmas in Canada, and built it up as a ultra playful bike for Ontario riding. It's basically a dirt jumper with a dropper post.
It's my first banshee (won't be my last) and I wS totally staggered by the quality of the frame. The rear triangle flex points make a noticeable difference in overall ride comfort.
Only comment is that you definitely need a tire insert in the rear, because you can rip berms so hard that without, you'll regularly be peeling your tire off trhe rim.
10/10 would reccomend.
  • 4 0
 Rode one for most of last summer. It is best as a full 27.5 bike. Loved the playfulness and was a blast on the descents. It was just ok climbing for me and not great on flatter rolling terrain. Loved the engineered compliance and the build quality of the frame. Work of art. I might try a Paradox some time.
  • 3 0
 I want to try the Enigma. I built a Paradox with basically the build from a 2020 Fuel Ex (but with a 140mm Marzocchi Z2) and it was probably my best looking and most fun bike. I also built a 2023 ESD which I didn't find as fun.

My only problem with Banshee's is I'm short... Their 430mm seat tubes are long for mediums at 5'6". The Enigma is the only one that is shorter at 410mm which would be perfect.
  • 2 0
 @Ryan2949: if you ever head this way to ride the hydrocut, send me a dm and you're welcome to take mine (a medium) for a spin.
  • 13 0
 Every hardtail thread ever: ‘remember some of these HA numbers are sagged, not static’

Pinkbike hardtail review: reports HA, doesn’t specify

…but thx for the roundup!
  • 4 1
 Pick your bike, pick your fork travel, estimate sag, revise HTA.

This ^ is not that hard.
  • 2 0
 Had to scroll too far down to find this comment. That said, Cotic gives all their geometry numbers for sagged suspension, so this isn't for hardtails exclusively.
  • 4 0
 @sanchofula: my point was that many (esp UK) mfgers are using sagged HA’s in their docs. You appear to be assuming that all the HA’s listed in this article are unsagged (which is not the case).
  • 2 0
 @vinay: Yeah, and the BFeMax is a 64HTA when spec'd with a 160mm. The pics also shows two color ways they don't offer anymore (I own both those colors coincidentally). Such an incredible bike. I still have no desire to go full suspension. Building both mine and my wife's from the frame up was an absolute joy.
  • 1 0
 @soaklord: Cool! I always loved Cotic ever since they came with the first BFe and they're great to chat with. I don't think they'll ever let you down should you ever run into issues. Eventually I ended up riding a BTR Ranger (which I don't regret by any means) but I always loved what they were doing and can definitely see myself having a good time on one of their bikes. Enjoy yours!
  • 16 1
 That headtube badge on the Radical wins. So dope.
  • 8 0
 I do like that one but the Honzo ESD headbadge is my personal favorite.
  • 10 0
 I'd say the Neuhaus Metalworks bikes are progressive for having stack numbers that reflect how hardtail geometry changes when actually being ridden. And they offer 16 sizes.

www.neuhausmetalworks.com/store/p/hummingbird
  • 4 0
 I’ve got a Solstice Mullet that I am absolutely in love with. The integration of frame components made from additive manufacturing is noteworthy, but the overall craftsmanship and smart geometry and construction really make the Neuhaus missed from this list.
  • 3 1
 Agreed, I have a Solstice on my 2024 wish list - what an amazing looking bike with very smart geo. The Binary Maniak also deserves an honorable mention as well, designed by/in collaboration with Steve from @hardtailparty
  • 3 0
 I have a solstice 29 running a 140 Lyrik. Puts the hta at 64.5. I’ve ridden it all around the Oregon trails from steep shoots to mellow trails and this bike just keeps asking you for more and baiting you to go faster. I’m running downhill super soft tires and the whole rig weighs in at around 32 pounds for a steel bike. Cannot recommend this bike enough to anyone looking for a hardtail that’s custom and will last them years since the geo is dialed.
  • 3 1
 Ridiculously expensive
  • 3 1
 Also ridiculously good. And made in America, fwiw.
  • 12 1
 As a lifelong hardtail rider.... I approve of this content! As a lifelong hardtail rider...... Not one mention of Canadian brand RSD Bikes on this list.... I disapprove of this content.
  • 2 0
 You'd expect an exhaustive list of all good hardtails out there? Surely RSD would be in the list and it would take you forever to find it. Riding a BTR Ranger, isn't on the list either, doesn't bother me.
  • 13 0
 I heard there is a Canadian company with a Steel and Titanium hardtail called the "Tyaughton"
wink>
  • 1 0
 Love mine!
  • 15 1
 Canfield Nimble9, duh.
  • 10 0
 Definitely missed the Stif Squatch in this round, absolutely progressive ripper!
  • 10 1
 Wheres the commencal meta ht???
  • 8 0
 The HT is not dead! Nothing better than riding a HT smooth and fast through chunk. You cant fake it
  • 8 0
 Canfield Nimble 9. Most fun hardtail ever.
  • 11 3
 my eyes love most of them. My 45 year old back, not so much.
  • 8 0
 My 47 years old back chooses the ESD for 2 rides out of 3. My 47 years old ankles sometimes question that decision, mainly right after poor line choices.
  • 2 0
 @AProulx: ROFL 100% - my slightly younger Back, Knees and Ankles have that same complaint after hitting the 'Slash lines' on my Meta HT - scary how quick these modern hardtails are....
  • 3 0
 My almost 47-year-old back loves my Cotic BFe Max...until I fractured it in many places riding HT in the bike park...dang! These modern HTs are almost too capable lol.
  • 4 0
 @freeinpg: 57 And still riding the same
  • 2 1
 @freeinpg: better a fractured frame than fractured body.
  • 1 0
 Oh, my back is 44 years old, just like my ankles. Is something really bad supposed to happen within the next few years?
  • 2 0
 I do every other ride on the Honzo. Maybe next year, at 50 I'll wise up.
  • 9 1
 Missing my 2008 Nashbar 853. Obvious winner here
  • 1 0
 That frame was such a bargain when it went on sale. But the head angle was so steep..
  • 1 0
 @oldschool43: Fox TALAS forks solve this issue. I have a 2005 Iron Horse Warrior Comp that I still ride, and the 90-130 TALAS makes it great on the up and down. Not as confidence inspiring as my 2021 Growler with a 150mm Pike, but still fun. Makes me appreciate how the incremental progression in bikes really adds up.
  • 1 0
 @woofer2609: I've tried adding travel to older bikes that I still have, because they were so much fun to ride back then, but it throws everything off when seated. I have a early 90's Specialized M2, even at 100mm, it's odd anytime. My brother gave me his very progressive for the time, 93-ish Iron Horse MT30 (or 50, repainted) it's a steel 16.5 frame, 24" ETT, 1.25" headtube, rigid, but could take a 50mm fork. Though it ends up with 68 hta with a 100mm fork, (I have a Fox coil Vanilla, 80-125mm, not Talas) it will kill your knees because the seat is so far back. Great bike back when though.
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 @oldschool43: I had a 90's S-Works M2, I think it was designed around a 50mm travel fork. I tried it on a trip to California with a 100mm travel marzocchi and it absolutely sucked for climbing. Super frustrating. Not because of knees, but the front wandered everywhere. The Iron Horse is designed around a 100mm travel fork stock, so the TALAS at 90 makes it climb even better than stock, and when the fork is at 130 it is really much more confidence inspiring on the way down than if I leave it at 90 or 100mm travel. Yes, it is a cheap frame, old technology, and not nearly as bombastic as my latest gen RMB Altitude, but it's still fun. Other bikes come and go, but this one isn't even worth selling. I drilled a hole in the bottom of the seat tube for an internal routed dropper, and it actually fits a 200mm dropper. How do you adjust travel on the Vanilla?
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 @woofer2609: Yeah, I loved my M2. To adjust the travel on the Vanilla was pretty easy. It wasn't on the fly, but you adjusted it by taking the top caps off and rearranging spacers. Took like 5 minutes tops. No oil leaking or pulling the spring shaft. I still have two Marzocchi Bomb Z-2's. The original 50mm (or something) forks. I have a "long travel" kit in each that brings it to 72mm.
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 I didn't check the other bikes, but Cotic states their head tube angles at 25% sag, so the unsagged number would be slacker than 65°.
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 It is. And also depends on what size forks you use..
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 @Trowel1: This is true for every bike though.
  • 3 0
 Yeah I made this general comment too. The article is a mixed list of sagged and static HA numbers but doesn’t specify which.
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 @frorider2: Almost like this may be a listicle thrown together in the course of a afternoon rather than well-considered buyer’s guide.
  • 5 0
 Not featuring a Kingdom Vendetta is almost sinful! They were pushing geo and doing hardcore HT’s over 10 years ago! Plus it’s not only gorgeous, it’s great value for money in comparison!
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 Just came her to say that slack hardtails are the most fun you can have on a bike. Something about being at the edge of grip all the time is exhilarating and it's nice to have the instant response going uphill. I've been riding a Honzo ESD for the last 18 months and never cease to marvel how much fun it is.
  • 5 1
 这真是硬尾山地车爱好者的盛宴!看来HardtailAM/trail车型并不会消失,还是有很多厂商在不断的开发新产品,对于这一点还是感到很高兴的,因为这样才不会让Hardtail Fans失望。
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 Google translation:
This is truly a feast for hardtail mountain bike enthusiasts! It seems that the Hardtail AM/trail models will not disappear. There are still many manufacturers that are constantly developing new products. I am very happy about this, because this way Hardtail Fans will not be disappointed.
  • 4 0
 **Just a heads up, the listing info for the Priority indicates STEEL FRAME, but on their website, it shows: "Frame 6061 Alloy Frame with Internal Dropper Routing"

I'd love to test ride one, still riding a 3 x 9 bike, and still skeptical about having only 12 gears. Only way that's going away is to actually try one and see for myselfSmile
  • 3 0
 Priority HXT has been excellent for getting me motivated and out the door to ride aggressive terrain in very bad weather this winter. Great riding bike and no worries about destroying my drivetrain with snow, mud, salt, sand which is a big concern for me otherwise.
  • 1 0
 Do you have a production version of the bike? Didn’t know they started shipping. Is the down tube kinked or is it nice and smooth like it was on their initial release
  • 2 0
 Too bad they only have a picture of that one that's obviously crashed and bent the down tube - oh wait - it's supposed to look like that? huh...
  • 1 0
 @plyawn: yeah don’t know why they did that design change… the launch article showed a nice straight down tube.
  • 1 0
 The most interesting bike in this list for sure. Notice the drag from the gearbox at all?
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 Nice looking bike, reasonable geo, reasonable outfitting, fair price for the e shift Pinion. I paid 3k for a Nicolai frameset with Pinion C12, and it was a PITA to get it from Germany, but Priory is waaay easier and a better deal.

Since PB is opening the doors to gearbox reviews, perhaps a full suspension gearbox "ride off" is due?

Zerode
Nicolai
Kavenz
Instinctiv
Others?
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 @Crossmaxx: pinion drag is not an issue in my thousands of miles of experience. I find it funny that it’s the number 1 topic people mention about gearboxes
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 @senorbanana: Wondering if it's size specific (smaller frames?). Trek and others have done this on smaller frames to be able to clear the full wheel travel
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 @marcoaml78: I emailed them, they said it’s a final design change for all frame sizes. Lame
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 @senorbanana: it looks like an old photo. The website has a different hydroformed looking downtube.
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 @bc308: nice catch! Still not so hot however
  • 5 0
 I was scrolling through this, drooling over these lovely hardtails. One even sexier than the other. And then I saw the Priority 600HXT.
  • 3 0
 As a semi-pro geometry geek and hardtail enthusiast - beware the different ways that different companies quote their geometry. Some show static, some show sagged. Obviously fork travel (A2C length) changes that too. Chainstay length and ETT barely change with this but reach, stack, BB height and angles change a lot - and if you're comparing one bike with a sagged 140mm fork vs another bike with a static 160mm fork, even though both bikes are designed for 140-160mm forks, then you'll not be making an accurate (or useful) comparison.

Also, seat tube angles are sometimes true (straight tube to BB) but most seat tubes nowadays are bent and/or offset, so the height they quote the effective seat tube angle at will make a very big difference.

Once I'd figured all this out I realised the Pipedream Moxie wouldn't have too steep a seat angle and would have a slack enough head angle and not be too long - and it's fantastic. Had it almost two years, as a singlespeed so far which I'm really loving.
  • 4 0
 The head tube badge on the Radical is one of the raddest I've seen. I wish more manufacturers put more thought and creativeness with their logos/branding.
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 Ragley aren't as "gnar" but have a classic, regal crest HT badge I've always liked.
  • 4 0
 Orbea Laufey is missing IMO
Lightweight and low BB ... a dream for cornering.

And you can ride kind of Enduro with it > www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2OvPnwA8ds
  • 1 0
 Orbea Laufey looks really good. A hardcore hardtail with internal storage. Shame it doesn’t use an UDH.
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 @BarneyStinson: I am talking about the "old" 2020 Laufey.
The 2024 Laufey has Storage and UDH. Smile
  • 2 0
 I have the On-One Wrekker, also had its predecessor frame Titus Loco Moto for last 21/2 years. Its an absolute hoot to ride, yes uphill tight switch backs can be a challenge (I relish that challenge), I've ridden it on all terrain, XC type stuff, Bike park Wales, local off piste Bristol trails, it works better in some locations than others, but its especially brilliant when pointing downwards.
  • 5 0
 No Canfield? No Nimble 9, no Yelly Screamy!?! You are hurting my feelings, Dario!
  • 5 0
 Every part of me (except my ass) is enjoying my new ferrum NV-HT. what a ripper
  • 1 0
 How do you have your set up?
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 @pb-kg: running a 160 fork, 27.5 all around, and whatever parts were laying around - including a seat bent at 10 degrees to the right lol
  • 3 0
 You can never go wrong with a Scout! Especially for US riders, who might have a hard time buying one right now, it is good to see the other options out there.
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 It's gonna be a rough couple of years for us North American Nukeproof riders, but I'm pretty confident the brand and bikes will survive and we'll start to see them better respresented.
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 Only problem is that they seem a bit fragile. I had a 2020 that I just had to retire from a crack in the seat stay / Seat Tube weld. Rode it moderately hard on occasional chunk but mostly Trail. Alum bikes have a lifespan. I will miss you Scout, RIP.
  • 5 0
 Nordest bardino is also a rad bike
  • 1 0
 yeah it is!
  • 1 0
 It's a bike with an identity crisis, in my opinion
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 @Marcignano: hmm how so? I dont believe in HTs with less than 160mm travel so it feels perfect to me lol
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 @phazedplasma: i realize now that I've been quite cryptic... Sorry! I mean "identity crisis" in a good way, because of geometry. I find the bike quite slack, and has long front center, but has stubby rear end and high bottom bracket. To me, the bike is hilariously (literally, I laugh a lot at end of the ride because it's a shit ton of fun) unstable at high speed, but is undoubtedly a bike that likes to party. That bike has undoubtedly its attitude
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 @Marcignano: oh i 100% agree. Perfect description
  • 1 0
 I want that frame so bad...
  • 2 0
 Where's the cliff notes for the best "budget" HT that can run singlespeed? While I understand the niche market of a hardtail the prices just seem so out line with what a FS would offer while being a "better" ride.
  • 1 0
 Gravity Deadeye. It's $350, the frame is good, the seat is OK, the wheels are acceptable, everything else needs upgrading.
  • 1 0
 Soma Riff or Soma Juice. If you want more traditional geo.
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 I know this is like kicking a digital bee hive but ‘modern’ ht geometry is taking the piss. For the kind of stuff you’d sensibly choose a ht those numbers are way too extreme. I’d take a ht (ridden a 2013 honzo for years) for playful, zippy riding, where a sub 65 degree head angle and ridiculous reach figure only take away from the bike’s character. This kind of geo only makes sense on steep, high speed tracks, ie the kind of riding where you’d use an enduro or dh bike.

My ideal ht would be carbon, 66 h/a, 445 reach (I’m 1.78m), 425 cs and 40 bb drop. Light parts, grippy front tyre and a faster rolling one at the back.
  • 1 0
 The headtube angle on a hardtail is constantly fluctuating though, at sag its going to be steeper than on the spec sheet, and when deep in the travel on a descent it will be wayyy steeper than advertised.
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 That's kind of the point of a hardcore hardtail. It's for the stuff you shouldn't sensibly ride
  • 7 0
 For every person who looks at the geo of progressive hardtails and says “those bikes must suck” there are ten owners (including me) saying “i’ve never had more fun”.

if it’s flat where you live, don’t buy one. If you have steeps, you’ll enjoy it.
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 Hardtails are bloody great! My Meta HT gets all the parts that I don’t love from other bikes and it’s a seriously fun bike. It currently has a Fox 38@160mm and its blast. $/smiles it’s the best bike I own.
  • 2 0
 Currently on a Scout 275 v3 with 29x2.5. Great all around geo for most terrain, and excellent value and build quality. A bit stiff feeling though. Looking forward to my Grim Reaper frame arriving.
  • 3 0
 What about the Ferrum NVHT?

Ridiculous geometry, fun as hell to ride, chromoly frame hand made in the USA... I mean what's not to like!?
  • 1 0
 I love mine, Zeb 180, 62 HTA, 200mm dropper, mullet with some xt 4 pots, it rips!
  • 1 0
 @Frankenbike42: Tell me more. I have one on order and have a Mezzer ready to go for lots of different configurations. I'm guessing the relatively high BB and big ass fork makes that reasonable. What length cranks are you running?
  • 1 0
 @pb-kg: 165 canfields! short cranks ftw.
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 Used to own a Doctahawk, I loved everything but the seat tube angle. With a 180 fork and 27-30mm of sag it was too steep and was rough on the hands. 150-160 fork with similar seat tube angle is my personal sweet spot. Much happier doing longer rides on my Stylus now instead.
  • 2 0
 The Grim Ripper gets my pick every day of the week! That thing is built, and the quality and geo is second to none, especially at that price! Also a great company to deal with which makes a huge difference...
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 Saguaro's Routing through the chainstays seems...not wise.
YMMV, but I don't think I had a worse time trying to route a frame than a MY21+ Specialized Fuse M4. And they seem to have copied the worst aspects of that while exposing more hose for the rear brake...how?
  • 4 0
 Not enough horizontal dropouts!!!!!!
  • 5 1
 WTAF- lead photo is the Stanton, but it's not in the review?
  • 2 0
 My Honzo DL (non ESD) is way more fun than it should be , 2.6 tyres, 140mm bombers, its only really big drops where I think my full suss could do better.
  • 5 0
 hardtail = best tail.
  • 4 0
 There's better tail
  • 1 0
 Dario missed out on the Stif Squatch!! Meets all of his categories for his recent build. However!!!!

IF YOU WANT A STIF SQUATCH XL W/ 36 GRIP 2

www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3785858
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 As a man who's ankles can't handle a proper hardtail anymore, I envy those who can as I ride my FS carbon bikes... Nothing looks and rides better than a good, simple steel or titanium HT.
  • 1 0
 Not sure if you've ridden the Bird Zero from the post, but the STA feels a bit steeper than 74º. Their newer Forge is has a 75º HA and is slightly longer and slacker (and is available in stainless).
  • 3 0
 Calling out the berks at pinkbike for leaving out Commencal, what a fucking travesty.
  • 1 0
 I'd love to have one of these but can't justify it. I convert my Blizzard (65-66hta) into a 120 29er in the summers and I absolutely thrash it. NFG. I even bent the rear triangle slightly but still no cracks. I'm impressed.
  • 1 0
 I mean no surprises, the newer Blizzards are basically a fat Growler.
  • 2 0
 No ❤️ for my Nimble 9 up in here??

That’s fine cuz I ❤️ it. SS FOR THE WIN!

51 year old back, knees, and ankles all like it too.
  • 1 0
 update: broken chainstay = broken heart

outta warranty by a few months looking to replace, soooo may options
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 I just don't get it. I am a longtime fan of hardtails. I have owned many of them over the years. This current trend of long travel hardtails with slack geometry seems silly though. The bike industry has lost its mind. Strange trends get started and everyone jumps on it because it is the cool new thing. If you need that travel/geometry for what you ride, there is almost certainly a full suspension that would serve you better. I was in the bike industry for a long time, and if you knew how the manufacturers view the consumers, you would not be so quick to jump on their silly trends. Go ahead and fire up the flamethrowers now Smile
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 Where do you ride mostly?

I live ride in the Northwest and mostly the Sea to Sky corridor in the summer months. Having a long, slack, long travel hardtail is pretty nice in those zones. Yes, I could own a full squish, but we all know there’s something special about a hardtail.
  • 3 0
 A full sus may well serve us better, but would we be having as much fun?
  • 2 0
 Love my Canfield Nimble 9!
I've bike-packed and raced enduros on it.
Everyone who can, should get a HT to play on!
www.pinkbike.com/photo/23305653
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 as it was one of the first aggressive short-travel hardtails to hit the mass market.

You haven't been biking that long Dario have you?!
  • 4 0
 Ferrum bikes NVHT
  • 2 0
 The Wrekker wanted to grow up and be a DH rig. Plans changed, life got in the way, and before it knew it, it had a 9-5.
  • 1 0
 I wonder who makes a fairly light steel frame with modern geometry. Any ideas? Most steel models here are 2.5kg and more I would guess.
  • 4 0
 My large Doctahawk frame is 3290g with a seat clamp. Not easily or often confused with "light".
  • 1 0
 @husstler: that's scary, LOL, fits this monster of a bike though
  • 1 0
 Not a Ragley Big Wig. Mine weights 33.5lbs built.
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 Me too - with a Fox Factory 36 and varying wheelsets - I seem to be BTW 31.5 lbs for stupid carbon XC wheels/light tires up to 35.5 lbs set up for a bone rattling day at the bike park on DH tires and heavy wheels. Nice to have choices!
  • 1 0
 No idea what my cotic weighs but I do remember in an interview Cy the founder of cotic saying if he made his frames out of carbon they'd only be something like 200g lighter
  • 2 0
 Loving my Ragley Mmmbop - unbeatable in terms of fun per $/€/¥/... Would love to try a good steel HT one day.
  • 2 0
 I had an Mmmbop for a couple of years and now ride a Moxie. Both good bikes. The Mmmbop is a reasonably stiff frame (well, mine was) compared with a steel frame.
  • 3 0
 Commencal Meta AM HT . . .
  • 1 0
 The 18bikes no.9 is absolutely fantastic as well, it genuinely makes me question if I even want to bother with the full sus…
  • 2 1
 Wanted to like the smaller brands but liking the Marin and the Rocky Mountain the most. Seriously asking, how does one ride a 180mm hardtail?
  • 2 0
 The Doctahawk is built for Whistler. If DH runs on a hardtail doesn’t sound like your cup of tea, that’s fine, don’t buy one.
  • 1 0
 One pedal at a time
  • 1 0
 I'm kind of looking for a bike that is good for DJ/pump track action, and is decent as a bike path/ gravel bike. A Pumpcountry bike if you will. Anyone have any suggestions?
  • 2 0
 Damn you Brexit, all the excellent hardtails from UK got so much more expensive thanks to you!
  • 2 0
 If there manufactured in the UK no additional import taxes for the eu
  • 2 0
 @briain: Cheers, I wasn't aware of this!
  • 3 0
 Not sure that Rocky Mountain know what a growler is over here?
  • 1 0
 The Moxie does it for me, if I have the money at some point would be great to build one of these up from scratch, half the fun/appeal of hardtails is ‘the build’ itself.
  • 2 0
 My Moxie is super fun, you definitely should dude. Got me into MTB as a whole and through my first few enduro races, it can handle it all, still take it out from time to time and I love it.
  • 1 0
 I found it quite hard to buy one they were never in stock. But if I had to replace my bfemax it would be top of the list
  • 2 0
 Kingdom Vendetta, Stif Squatch, BTR Ranger/Belter... come on PB, we need a part two to this!
  • 3 0
 Hardtail Fieldtest please?
  • 3 0
 Ferrum NVHT. Steel, American made, on sale for $700.
  • 2 0
 Rootdown has been my primary bike for the last 3 years and it’s been an amazing ride.
  • 4 1
 Pole Taival?
  • 2 0
 Tii Turner bikes:

Turner Nitrous and Turner Scrub
  • 1 0
 I love my Pipedream Moxie 3 Put a 170 fork on it, Enduro Races, Bikeparks... This beast takes it all!
  • 2 0
 Great stuff! Thanks guys!
  • 1 0
 What about the san quentin? That thing is so much better than the el roy surely
  • 2 0
 And no mention of the BTE Steely Dan? Come on Frown
  • 3 1
 My brain loves hardtails, my back does not.
  • 3 0
 Production Privée Shan!
  • 1 0
 Man, if I looked at this list I would think nobody in the world rides XC anymore. Maybe there's a bit of bias...
  • 3 1
 Evil needs to reissue an updated Sovereign
  • 1 0
 *imperial
  • 2 0
 Come on, you are teasing us with the pinkbike pink bike field test!!
  • 2 0
 Holdup. Banshee still makes bikes? Nice!
  • 2 0
 Rulezman loves em
  • 1 1
 Wish list for a hard tail, and no company seems to offer: SuperBoost rear spacing, ZS56 straight head tube, adjustable rear dropouts
  • 1 0
 Why superboost?
  • 1 0
 C'mon GT!!! Bring back the RUCKUS with 650b wheels!! You are still at time!!! www.pinkbike.com/photo/17341499
  • 2 0
 Bird Forge reporting in...!
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 IMNSHO, a good hardtail needs to cover country very well and the idea of hardcore hardtail or enduro hardtail is only good as a winter, shitty conditions enduro steed, or as a second, loaner bike. Instead, a really good hardtail to have as part of the stable, is essentially a beefed-up version of a gravel bike, or monstah cross bike; you know a good ol' fashioned xc hardtail that can do everything pretty well, but nothing great. Make gravel biking great again, by just riding your old xc hardtail as a winter trail, gravel, and road do it all mileage crusher!
  • 8 0
 I think part of what's so rad about hardtails is that even the beefiest, burliest hardtail will still be a relatively efficient tool to cover a lot of mileage, simply by nature of it being, well, a hardtail.
  • 3 1
 Hardtails are bloody great! My Meta HT gets all the parts that I don’t love from other bikes and it’s a seriously fun bike. It currently has a Fox 38@160mm and its blast. $/smiles it’s the best bike I own.
  • 4 0
 I've always kinda been of the mindset that you can ride anything on anything. case in point, I actually picked up an On One Hello Dave (the steel version of the Wrekker mentioned above) to try out longer chainstays. I'd been loving my chromag stylus, but somehow the 40mm stretch really didn't feel that crazy. I've ridden it with a suspension fork at the bike park, and with a rigid fork in the woods with my friends on Surlys. It's really incredible how versatile a hardtail can be, this thing is a (probably, I refuse to weight it) 40lb dh weapon, but with a little tweaking I'll happily ride gravel, xc trails and commute on it. There's nothing like not having suspension soaking up your energy to really let you ignore stuff

@ethanshredz: yeah what you said
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 I do XC rides on my singlespeed Pipedream Moxie with a 160mm Lyrik up front. I wouldn't do a serious XC race on it, but it's great for long pedals. (If my local annual XC race restarts then I will enter with the Moxie!)
  • 1 0
 @ethanshredz: For really, I have done a bike packing trip, gravel rides, runs to downtown on my heavy ass Ragley.
  • 2 0
 No Ragley Big Wig on the list?
  • 3 1
 Pole Taival still holds up
  • 2 1
 Lovely bikes, But I think I'll stick with my Marino Custom Hardtails. Hecho En Peru > Taiwan
  • 2 0
 Commencal Meta HT . ...........well until it cracked
  • 1 0
 LOL. Sick Bikes had more extreme frames than most of these. Extremely likely to drain your bank account and piss you off.
  • 5 0
 The On One Wrekker/Hello Dave literally was a Sick.
  • 3 0
 The Hello Dave was originally a rebranded Sick Bike. When Sick Bike went bust, Planet X (owners of On One) bought all their old stock. The Wrekker looks like a titanium copy of Hello Dave. I have a "Dave" and it is bloody awesome fun!!!! Its great to see On One represented here!
  • 1 0
 Congrats on navigating the Planet X website to come up with an On-One that most of us Brits hadn't even heard of.
  • 1 1
 HT cuts heavy into fun gnar factor, 10' hucks nope. Broken body yup. My steel HT is parked since forever, maybe corner store with sandals.
  • 1 0
 Sell it to someone who will use it for what it was made for?
  • 2 0
 Thanks for the shout out @dariodigiulio
  • 3 0
 Commencal Meta HT?????
  • 1 0
 Oh these are different bikes? I thought it was just 17 pictures of the same bike in different colors from different angles.
  • 1 0
 Nimble 9 not on the list is a big miss. Not one bike on there I would buy over a N9.
  • 1 0
 the build kit on the ricky martin growler is shockingly bad for the price .
  • 1 0
 Stif Squatch, BB is silly low (-80mm), corners like nothing else I've ridden.
  • 1 1
 Ive got to put it out there...... My BTR Belter, the HT that rules them all!
  • 1 0
 Canfield yelliscreamy should have been on the list.
  • 3 2
 @hardtailparty where you at?
  • 1 0
 Its been a while since I've been on pinkbike. There are some great bikes on this list.
  • 1 0
 Noooo @dariodigiulio you missed the stif squatch!!
  • 2 0
 That was in the last roundup.
  • 1 0
 one of the originals - nn9 - not here? wth!
  • 2 0
 Why stop at 17?
  • 2 0
 Banshee FTW
  • 2 0
 BC Podsol!
  • 1 0
 I built one of these up, and the frame is just really elegant and has a great geometry for trail riding. My only beef is the cable routing along the down tube. Just a bit odd to work with.
  • 2 0
 Orange P7 gang rise up
  • 1 0
 The Marin El Roy is almost half price at the moment
  • 1 0
 I’ve had my Doctahawk since 2019. Still going strong
  • 1 0
 Thanks Dario, rad collection of cool steeds.
  • 1 0
 TiLenol would be a sick hardtail name
  • 1 0
 Hardtails. so hot right now! Hardtails
  • 1 0
 Banshee just hasn’t changed at allllllll. Still kinda cool
  • 2 0
 NO CARBON 4thewin
  • 1 0
 I just love my chromoly ht pole taival.
  • 1 0
 A lot of these bikes look SICK! Also why no Production Privee!?
  • 1 0
 It seems that 'progressive' means designed for people with orangutan arms!
  • 2 1
 No Stanton! Shame...shame...
  • 1 0
 Rootdown and ESD... that is all
  • 1 0
 Knolly Tyaughton???
  • 1 0
 Nordest Lacrau!
  • 2 1
 Rå .410?
  • 1 0
 Deleted
  • 1 0
 Yesssss
  • 1 1
 Are we getting a 27.5 full sus version of this? Are we? Are we? Huh?
  • 1 0
 Turner Scrub.
  • 2 0
 Have you ridden the Scrub?
  • 1 0
 @ryseyer: Unfortunately, no. Looks like a “compelling and progressive” option, though. I’d definitely give one a try. What about you? Anything to report about it?
  • 1 0
 @TheR: I’ve ridden the Turner Nitrous, their XC frame. I rode the one that was reviewed by hardtailparty. Really loved that bike, but really only for flowy green/blue type trails. So I’ve been looking at the Scrub. They only have the larger size available right now and talking myself into it. Currently on a Chromag rootdown and that bike is pretty rad too
  • 1 0
 @ryseyer: I really want a cyclosys. It’s just a little more money than I’d want to spend right now, though. If we are talking hardtail mountain bikes, that scrub would be at the top of the list, though, followed by a Canfield Nimble 9 and a Kona Honzo ESD.
  • 1 0
 Main San Quentin
  • 1 0
 Hello dave!
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 Hardtail wussies
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