Field Test: 2023 Yeti SB140 - The Traction Finder

Dec 6, 2022
by Mike Kazimer  

PINKBIKE FIELD TEST

Yeti SB140



Words by Mike Kazimer; photography by Satchel Cronk


The new SB140 is the middle child in Yeti's 2023 lineup, sandwiched between the SB120 on one side and the SB160 on the other. It's essentially the evolution of the SB130, the most popular model in Yeti's lineup for the last few years.

The bike's 140mm of rear travel is paired with either a 150 or 160mm fork depending on the build kit – models with the Lunch Ride designation get the longer travel fork, along with more powerful brakes and Fox's Float X piggyback shock instead of the inline DPS shock found on the 'regular' version.

When it comes to geometry, the SB140's head angle sits at 65-degrees, the reach is 480mm, and the seat angle is 77-degrees, numbers that aren't too far off from SB130 it replaces. That bike's numbers were on the cutting edge when it was launched in 2018, and there's a reason Yeti didn't need to change things too drastically for this iteration.
Yeti SB140 Details

• Travel: 140mm / 160mm fork
• Carbon frame
• Wheel size: 29”
• 65-degree head angle
• 77-degree seat angle
• 440 chainstays
• Reach: 480mm (L)
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL, XXL
• Weight: 32.7 lb / 14.8 kg
• Price: $10,200 USD
• More info: yeticycles.com

One number that has increased by a noticeable amount is the chainstay length – it now varies depending on the frame size, starting at 436mm for a small and increasing in 2mm per size, all the way up to 444mm for an XXL.


Along with a few small geometry tweaks and a little more travel, the SB140 also received a new downtube shape that provides more clearance – when the frame alone costs $4,500 the last thing you want to do is ruin it by smashing it into a rock. The Switch Infinity suspension system (the two Kashima coated rails located above the bottom bracket) has also been revised, with updated bearings and seals on the higher end Turq frames.

Speaking of high end, our test bike isn't the top-of-the-line model, but it's not far off. The SB140 LR T3 is priced at $10,200, which gets you a SRAM AXS wireless drivetrain, Fox Factory 36 fork and Float X shock, Code RSC brakes, and aluminum DT Swiss XM 1700 wheels. All of that adds up to a total weight of 32.7 lb, or 14.8 kg.






Climbing

The SB140 is an impressive climber, due in large part to how much grip is available at the rear wheel. It's not quite as supportive as the Santa Cruz Hightower under hard pedaling, but it tracks the ground very well, and the slightly softer feel of the whole package makes for a very comfortable ride. And when I say 'softer' I don't mean over-active and mushy – far from it. The SB140 does a great job of delivering traction while also remaining calm, even during those out-of-the-saddle moments.

Somewhat surprisingly, in the efficiency test it ended up putting down the slowest time, although it doesn't feel that way on the trail. Despite what the clock said, the SB140's handling makes it a good option for riders who regularly find themselves faced with tricky, technical climbs. The head angle is a little steeper than some of the other bikes we had in this test, which speeds up the handling a touch, and makes it easier to tip the bike around corners and pull off slower speed maneuvers.

It's worth noting that the head tube is fairly short, resulting in a low stack height. Even with the 160mm fork I found myself wishing for a higher rise bar, and a shorter stem to improve the fit. Of course, that's a matter of personal preference to some extent, and some riders will get along just fine with the slightly more stretched out climbing position.



Descending

The SB140's easygoing nature carries over onto the descents. It's not a brute of a bike, something that demands an aggressive rider to get it to come alive. Instead, it's a bike that can easily change directions and find the right line with minimal coaxing, all while making the most of the 140mm of rear travel.

However, even with the 160mm fork up front there were times that the SB140 lost some of its poise, typically on steeper, rougher trails. The quick handling that makes it a great climber and an entertaining ride on slightly mellower terrain isn't as beneficial when a trail points straight down the fall line. Compared to a bike like the Scott Genius, which has a 1-degree slacker head angle, the Yeti didn't feel as composed on those rowdier trails. It's not that it can't handle them, it's just that going fast and dropping into those trickier moves requires more concentration; you can't just hold on and plow through whatever's in the way.

Keep in mind that we were testing on trails that, while certainly appropriate for a bike in this travel bracket, are also likely a little rougher and rowdier than what many riders have in their backyards. For areas with slightly mellower terrain the SB140 could be a great all-rounder, a bike that can comfortably cover a bunch of ground while delivering excellent suspension performance on the climbs and descents.

I do want to mention just how satisfyingly quiet the SB140 was - Yeti's chainslap protection and cable routing does a great job of keeping the noise levels down to a minimum.




Pros

+ Well rounded, capable in most terrain
+ Great technical climber, with plenty of traction
+ Comfortable overall feel


Cons

- Not as surefooted in the steeps compared to some of the other bikes on test
- Some riders may want higher rise bars, especially considering the short headtube & low stack





The 2022 Fall Field Test is presented G-Form





359 Comments

  • 513 9
 The question is, would you rather have this bike or 2 Norcos and a 2004 Corolla?
  • 65 19
 You must not have shopped for a used vehicle recently, a 2004 Corolla with low mileage is pushing $10k on its own.
  • 218 4
 @jmd07aa: if you’re spending $10k on a 2004 Corolla, you’re living life wrong.
  • 56 0
 Seriously though my 05 Element, mountain bike, gravel bike and BMX combined were around the cost of this bike...
  • 46 96
flag Endurahbrah (Dec 6, 2022 at 8:27) (Below Threshold)
 PB needs to create a filter for bikes over $10k. Hell, make it $6k. I'll likely never buy a bike for that much, so wouldn't care about reading the field tests.

This way I can sort through the BS. It is fun reading the comments though lol.
  • 156 7
 @Endurahbrah: cant you filter it yourself? The photo is of a yeti with a factory fork. It’s going to be over 6k.

I can’t afford a porsche 911 but I enjoy watching reviews of them.
  • 27 0
 @jmd07aa: i bought a 2006 1.6 corolla this year for £1200, which coincidentally is exactly the same price i paid for my cannondale habit
  • 31 17
 @Endurahbrah: so most PB audience. I bet 95% of people here do not ride a single bike over 6k... but they bitch in every review. I just would like to see budged bike tests... I don't care how 10k bike rides, I will only get one if I win a lottery or PB advent calendar Big Grin
  • 25 2
 I already have 2 Norcos and I still don't want this.
  • 12 38
flag tprojosh (Dec 6, 2022 at 8:56) (Below Threshold)
 @mick06: you can buy a used porsche 911 for less than this yeti though.
  • 20 64
flag MiloRiderMTB (Dec 6, 2022 at 9:08) (Below Threshold)
 I can't be the only one that thinks PinkBike has a serious brand bias. I get it, PB is a company (even bigger now with Outside as its master) and they have sponsors they must appease. That said, I would have bet a breakfast burrito this review was going to be somewhat unfavorable.

PB generally gives high praise to Orbed (obvious as a sponsor), Santa Cruz, and Trek (why tho?). Just like GMBN thinks Nuke Proof is the jam.
  • 40 0
 @Endurahbrah: The reason to read these reviews of $10k bikes is so you know what to look out for on the used market in a few years. There's no way I can afford a $10k bike, but I just bought one - 3 years old, for $3500. Needs a little service work, but nothing I can't do myself.
  • 9 4
 @MiloRiderMTB: This sounds like something a YETI RIDER would say. Complaining about bais from an obviously biased position is pretty hypocritical.
  • 35 1
 @MiloRiderMTB: I heard PB actually hates all their users and they make these reviews just to piss us off and hopefully drive us to another website.
  • 134 4
 @MiloRiderMTB, there aren't any sponsors to appease here. We ride the bikes back-to-back, and then hop in front of the camera to report our findings. It's a simple as that. If a bike's great we'll say so, and if it's not we'll say that too. We wouldn't be doing our jobs if we were hyping up a bike that didn't deserve it.
  • 45 1
 @MiloRiderMTB: In all my years on Pinkbike, I’ve never noticed any negative bias toward Yeti. They gave rave reviews to the last generation that came out in 2018 or so (especially the SB 150 and 130). As for the other brands you name, they’ve given “meh” reviews to certain models of Santa Cruz (Megatower) in the last couple years, with the exception being the new Nomad. They also loved the New Specialized bikes a couple years back. I think if you’re seeing biases, you might want to look into you’re own.
  • 4 16
flag MiloRiderMTB (Dec 6, 2022 at 9:43) (Below Threshold)
 @Benjamin97: Spot on. I do ride a Yeti but it's not the only bike I ride and it's certainly not the only bike I've ridden
  • 3 8
flag MiloRiderMTB (Dec 6, 2022 at 9:43) (Below Threshold)
 @warmerdamj: Mike Levy is that you?
  • 5 0
 @tprojosh: Not sure about that, but you can buy a used porsche cayenne for less than this. Which shouldn't surprise anyone who's seen a cayenne!
  • 7 25
flag valrock (Dec 6, 2022 at 9:47) (Below Threshold)
 @TheR: well Spesh owns PB ( or whoever owns Spesh also owns PB). Not sure about Yeti... maybe a sponsor. Would actually be cool to know where PB gets money from and how independent reviews are.

P.S. That being said I owned two Spesh bikes and they are amazing. Not better than others or anything like that... but they ride good, very solid quality and took more beating then others I know before breaking something.
  • 1 0
 @valrock: I guess my point is, they spread the love.
  • 4 1
 @valrock: since when does spesh own pb? I believe they address their advertising and independence of reviews in a podcast somewhere
  • 47 0
 the real question is why do they keep letting poor people comment , surely an outside subscription will sort this problem
  • 9 1
 @tprojosh: You haven't looked at used Porsche 911 prices recently have you?
  • 8 4
 @93EXCivic: who the f*ck looks at used porsche prices?
  • 59 5
 @Compositepro: Exactly, poor people have been ruining the comment sections for yeti reviews for years. I'm surprised most of them can even afford internet to connect. They must all be leaching off coffee shop wifi from outside on the sidewalk.
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer: thank you
  • 14 0
 @Compositepro: People who frequently make bad decisions when buying cars (says the man who has owned 3 MG Midgets, 1 Triumph Spitfire and 2 Yugos).
  • 3 1
 @93EXCivic: a triumph spitfire in good nick ….. id be on A Yugo faster than I would Kim kardashian maybe eeven a trabant
  • 4 0
 @warmerdamj: here here mi lord
  • 5 1
 @mikekazimer: Pinkbike regularly shits (nicely) on products that don’t perform, I don’t understand how someone could have that opinion here.
  • 18 0
 That’s an easy answer for me, of course I’ll take a bling bike with a dank purple paint job over a 2004 Corolla. This is “pinkbike” not “beige practical commuter bike”.
  • 21 6
 @Marquis: Great point.
I'm 62 years old and yes, at this point, I can afford $10K bikes. I build top-of-the-line, frame-up, custom builds and I replace them every 3 years.
I just sold my 3 year old dentist build Ripmo for $6K.
  • 1 0
 delete
  • 2 0
 @kcy4130: I was looking at a used Cayenne S and it did not have a sticker on it. Drove it. Fell in love with it. The guy gave me the price $108,000.00 USD for a 2020 with 10k miles. I went to a Ford dealer next lol. You must be looking at really old used Porsches?
  • 2 0
 @jmd07aa: The Toyota is a better value
  • 2 5
 @thechunderdownunder: You can find early 2000s Cayennes for under $10k pretty easy. Same with early 2000s Boxsters.
  • 14 1
 @93EXCivic: And how much are you budgeting for maintenance on an early 2000s Cayenne? Lol
  • 3 2
 @valrock: “ Spesh owns PB ( or whoever owns Spesh also owns PB).”

Wrong. Did you bother to validate that by doing even 2 minutes of googling?
  • 2 0
 @Marquis: The Yeti isn't a good example, but Trek and Scott both offer sub $4K versions of the bikes included in this field test so why wait 3 or more years to buy a used $10,000 version?
  • 3 4
 Uh... I'm pretty sure the "Lunch Ride" nomer pretty much sums it up. Docs, Dentists and Attorneys - ENJOY! Have a splash of bourbon before the ride. The Senator's gonna be on this ride!
  • 11 0
 @mikekazimer: Soooo much grumpiness over cost. I say, juice boxes all around, followed up by a nap or a ride.
  • 10 1
 @valrock: According to the '21 pinkbike survey ~32% of people who submitted an answer, their primary bike is over $6k... If you drop it to $5k, its ~47%. (7.6% were bikes over $9k (considering $9k to deal with inflation from '21 to now...) just to put some context on it)

43% put down household income over $100k, 12% were over $200k... There was another 14% with prefer not to say, and at a guess I'd suggest at lease a few % are in those higher brackets.

While it isn't the majority, almost half of PB readers appear to be effing loaded, and spend that cash on bikes.
  • 10 6
 @valrock: so they do a shit bike test. Then everyone commenting complains of shit builds, bad geo and prices. They do a sweet bike test and everyone complains about price, availability and geo.

You want shit bike reviews? go check the Walmart brochure, maybe they got a good review there for you all on a sweet huffy.
On a serious note. I'm not interested in cheap bike reviews. I break cheap bikes and cheap parts pretty fast and prefer to not be fixing or replacing shit continously. I learned this a while ago. Cheap rims die, cheap shocks dont work, cheap forks go theough all their travel cheap derailleurs bend, cheap chauns stretch and lets not forget if they dont break then youll wear them out. Also cheap shits heavy.I'd rather grab a ex demo or some rich old guys bike then get a new cheap bike.
  • 3 0
 I would rather just have the Norco and save the rest of the money. The review said the Yeti was last on the efficiency test so you know the Norco best it in at least one category sans the price.
  • 1 0
 @93EXCivic: yeah but those are 20 years old now!
  • 2 0
 I'll take the 2 Norcos and keep my 1990 Toyota pickup, with the 22R engine. Since I have extra money, I'm buying Tacos. Mmmmm
  • 3 0
 But this looks like candy,
  • 4 1
 @MiloRiderMTB: as a yeti owner, I kind of feel like the crowd is right on this one. Overpriced (and a crappy warranty).
  • 6 0
 i'm a proud owner of a manual 2007 toyota corolla sport. oil is optional. it doesn't have a backup cam. it doesn't need one. I have a damn head that can turn. it's boring grey but i think its hot AF. i work at a dealership as a mechanic and every day I thank my blessings that i drive something as old and beatup as my corolla. oh, and did i mention i spend under 200$ a year on it (not counting gas) and bought it for $2000 with ZERO issues. and it gets 36 miles to the gallon. no one needs a yeti but everyone needs a corolla. i rest my case.
  • 5 0
 @zeusdreadbeard: I bet the corolla is lighter....
  • 1 1
 @Endurahbrah: PB should make a filter for cheap broke asses like you
  • 14 0
 @Dangerous-daveo: a $100k income in the US is far from loaded, especially if there’s kids
  • 1 0
 @thechunderdownunder: the old ones cost a lot more than 108k!
  • 2 0
 @jsnfschr: I never said a 20 year Cayenne (or Boxster) was a good idea. Just that you could.
  • 1 0
 @Marquis: This!
My sb150 costed me near the same as my friends Norco Range after he swapped to Fox factory suspension. The only difference is he's got new bike, while mine rear triangle has been used a season.
  • 1 0
 @warmerdamj:
You sell that optic yet?
  • 1 0
 @mtnsnap: this is amazing
  • 1 1
 @mick06: I guess I'm just annoyed that $10k is what used to be a $6/7k bike.
  • 1 1
 @Endurahbrah: Everything is more expensive than it used to be, inflation brah
  • 1 0
 @MiloRiderMTB: quick thought,
All bikes from a brand have a particular flavour lets say, you can feel it in the advertising, the colours, the component spec, and the ride charter of the bikes. We all have a preferred flavour, be it vanilla (Giant), strawberry (Spesh), or double chocolate espresso caramel (Nicolai). Those flavours correspond to where we ride, what we ride, and so on.
You can see why the guys in the PNW might gravitate toward a bike that performs better in, I dont know, the PNW?

Just food for thought
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: Do you guys giggle to yourselves when we get pissed that you dont like our particular brand of mountain bicycle, or has it gotten to the point of eye rolling?

Maybe we need a PB bingo of users that make the same silly comments, or have bruised feelings that you haven’t directly mirrored their experiences, or my personal fav, “please review this bike that I already own so I can validate my feelings to my wife and buddies”
  • 1 0
 @onawalk: stop right there buddy at involving wives in bike decisions it cannot end well
  • 2 0
 @Compositepro: shit,
My bad, I’ll edit my post immediately
  • 1 0
 I’ll have the 79’ Corolla instead!
  • 125 5
 "One number that has increased by a noticeable amount is the chainstay length". No, that number would be the price.
  • 2 5
 and don't forget the short head tube ...
  • 5 0
 @sanchofula: that looks pretty average length to me...
  • 120 4
 15 kilos for a 140mm travel bike that cost 10 grand is a bit of a joke though.
  • 43 0
 You can get enduro bikes that weigh less for less money. I don't get it
  • 32 0
 @blackpudding: Switch Infinity bro!
  • 4 0
 @blackpudding: links please!!!! LINKS!!!!!! I am here for the knowledge like this, but you can just throw such claims with no proofs Big Grin
  • 6 1
 yeah why is it so heavy? My deore spec 2022 Instinct is 32.2 lbs.
  • 2 19
flag valrock (Dec 6, 2022 at 9:33) (Below Threshold)
 @toddball: less money is 6k, not 9+
  • 17 0
 Presumably they got sick of all those warranty replacement demands and put some actual material into the downtube and chainstays.
  • 17 0
 @valrock: $880 and 1.3kg less, while having 20mm more travel. In my opinion the remark was warranted.
  • 1 20
flag valrock (Dec 6, 2022 at 9:54) (Below Threshold)
 @Mac1987: 8% price difference and "morrer travel is betterer" is nothing special. I was hoping for some real difference considering how "overpriced" YETI is claimed to be here. Also these 9300 USD is something that customs will need to be paid on top of. I bet that 10k yeti will also be 12k yeti in EU is not more.. isn't it?
  • 15 1
 @valrock: this thing is a grand more than the yeti frameset and weighs the same: us.yt-industries.com/products/bikes/capra/core-4/418/capra-29-core-4/#tech3

It isn't difficult to find an enduro bike under 15kgs for less than ten grand man, come on
  • 14 1
 @valrock: No one says more travel is better. You're the one who asked for examples of lighter, cheaper bikes with more travel and you got them so not sure what you’re trying to argue about.
  • 5 10
flag TucsonDon (Dec 6, 2022 at 14:24) (Below Threshold)
 @toddball: It is only a single-pivot though (so lower weight expected) and seemed to have some weird suspension characteristics under test. I'm not sure if I'd want a 160mm flex-stay single pivot. I wonder how much the suspension stiffened under braking? It wasn't mentioned on the test, but in the rocky areas I ride it's pretty important. Maybe not so much on BC flow trails.
  • 1 0
 Had to scroll till here to find this so obvious Con...
  • 5 0
 @TucsonDon: you think bc trails are tame compare to Tucson?
  • 1 0
 ..
  • 1 0
 @valrock: "huh hup cheya-hyaaat!" - Link
  • 4 4
 15kg is a fair weight for a 140/160 bike.
So the question is whether the price is fair. It's almost as if there are massive diminishing returns on bikes at this kind of price.
I know it's almost fashionable to moan about these halo bike prices, but I really think PB and other media outlets need to take a firmer line with bike companies and insist on reviewing the models riders are going to buy.
It won't be the 10 grand ones.
  • 1 1
 @chakaping: "15kg is a fair weight for a 140/160 bike" - is it though? I reckon most people that own a 140mm travel bike would disagree, especially one at this price. Mine weighs 12.5kg and cost half the ticket price (ok it's 27.5 so not a fair comparison, but still - who in my position wants to drop 10k to gain 2.5kgs?)
  • 1 0
 @blackpudding: I'm not saying it's the optimal weight, but 15kg (33lbs) is kind-of the default weight for all-mountain style bikes these days in my experience. I'm surprised this one isn't more like 31lbs, but I can also see why not. Throw money at a bike spec and you can only really save weight with a few components (drivetrain, wheels, maybe handlebar), otherwise it just gets more blingy for the same weight.
  • 1 0
 @blackpudding: it depends on the 140 bike, I have an offering v2
Coil, 36, enduro 305 wheels, super gravity tyres, mt7 with big rotors and it’s 15.4kg
It is worth it, climbs amazingly good and descends better than my previous enduro 29 from specialized
  • 4 0
 My 140/160 bike is over 16 kg, which is why I try to eat plenty of fiber and drink a strong coffee every morning.
  • 1 1
 My 21 sb150 is 17.5kg no water bottle. It goes. Light bikes break. So a light cheap bike....well you can guess how that ends.
  • 85 3
 Slowest and least efficient with handling that doesn't instill confidence for eleven grand? Where do I sign
  • 49 1
 Oh it's just 10,200. I'll take 2
  • 4 4
 Just look at it. And I don’t mean that in a good way. That seat/linkage/BB area. Omg. Looks totally shite!
  • 10 0
 Slowest up the hill, slowest down, least confidence inspiring and a cool five figures. The Yeti marketing team has their work cut out for them.
  • 5 1
 @ocnlogan: and yet people will buy it
  • 2 0
 @ocnlogan: Pink should do it.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: It's a quagmire - has a traffic jam esthetic.
  • 4 4
 @njcbps: I don’t get it. Does anyone really believe those two silly little gold bars with the 4.5mm of travel actually make a discernible difference to the ride vs everyone else’s designs that don’t have them, whilst also managing to not look like a ten year old made them with play-doh?
What were they thinking when they pressed the big green button on that design?
LOL.
  • 1 4
 No bullshit, if that was in a “weird stuff we found at the Taipei show” article and it wasn’t a Yeti, everyone would be in stitches.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: There's an elegance in engineering simplicity - think Honda compared with Mercedes Benz.

But it's subjective, and I'm driven by pragmatism and would always favour Japanese engineering instead of German–at least in autos.
  • 75 13
 Why would you get a Yeti, that isn't Yeti colored, how will all of my dentist friends know I ride a yeti?
  • 14 3
 The classic dentist turquoise is not exclusive to Yeti anymore (looking at you YT Capra!), so better get it in some other new kind of elitist colors than risking the chance of people thinking you're some kind of plebeian riding some poverty bikes.
  • 14 0
 its a great color
  • 15 0
 @rick26: doesn't fezzari have a similar color of purple? i think Salsa too.

I know we're supposed to hate Yeti for being too expensive, but that purple is beautiful. don't care if it's an "elitist" color.
  • 3 0
 I´d definitely go with the purple instead of turq or the grey I actually have now
  • 4 0
 must be those guys that buy ferraris in yellow
  • 4 0
 Because we already have a few Yetis in Yeti color, like the e160, so we welcome a change in our Yeti fleets.
  • 1 0
 #YetiPeptoBlu
  • 2 1
 @TheRamma: this purple is definitely a Salsa colour!
  • 5 0
 @bishopsmike: God, I saw that salsa in person at a shop, in my size, and couldn't help but start unconsciously going for my wallet. this bike looks similarly stunning.

color selection is not a reason to complain about yeti
  • 1 0
 You'll tell them. Duh.
  • 1 3
 @jclnv: I like purple bikes, but when I look at this Yeti it feels like purple bikes are over.
  • 33 0
 Wow, alloy wheels and gx chain on $10k + bike...

Value aside, I don't see why you guys didn't just install a shorter stem and higher rise bar for the test. As a tall guy I appreciate you highlighting the low front, and I understand you're trying to test the bikes as they come stock, but most people dropping 5-10k on a bike are going to change the cockpit anyways. It seems like the bulk of this review is whining about the long low cockpit, IMO 10mm of stem length and/or 20mm of bar rise affect handling more than 0.5 degrees of HA.
  • 6 0
 Totally agree. If you buying a bike, you should consider additional 5-10% of bike budget for some small upgrades: tyres, grips, saddle, stem.
  • 4 0
 I agree as well. It's why I always buy the frame and build the bike with components I prefer.
  • 11 4
 @wyric: For $10K I'd expect a reach around, not having to spend another $500-$1000
  • 2 1
 @ChiefSilverback: with $10k I would look for $9k bikes and be ready to spend $500-$1000 for some modifications
  • 1 0
 @wyric: you don't get a reach around with a $9k bike...
  • 33 4
 Just here to say auto play still sucks.
  • 31 10
 Why do bikes cost as much as used cars now
  • 181 4
 Because used cars cost as much as new cars now.
  • 2 0
 @bouj: good)))
  • 37 9
 @RockyFish: A Bugatti costs a few million for a car though, what is your point, that expensive versions of things exist?

Very expensive bikes don't mean the reasonably priced ones stop existing and its a non essential luxury item - for those that can afford a Yeti and are happy to spend the money, good for them.

Yea this thing is expensive - I think its frankly ridiculously expensive but Yeti must sell them or the brand wouldnt exist.
  • 5 3
 @justanotherusername: I think stuff got cheaper in a way. If you want the same performance as you had a good while ago, you can get it from the lower end versions. Microshift gets you wide range gearing for much less than it used to. Lower end suspension is much better than it was back in the days. And now that standards don't change that much nowadays (like axle standards and shock mount standards did a while ago) you don't have to replace that many components when you do replace your frame. So yeah, the price of biking has dropped a bit if unless you feel the need to replace parts/frames/bikes often and unless you want the latest and greatest. Wireless shifting, wireless dropper, lots of carbon, electronic suspension control... If you would have bought that years ago, it would have been expensive too.
  • 3 0
 @justanotherusername: just buy one second hand after it cracked, half price and no warranty, only ridden on sundays by a grandma, don't look at the switch shafts though they're uh... supposed to be silver....
  • 2 5
 @vinay: I can confirm this, rode 2010 SPesh Enduro in EVO config with top-of-the-line FOX 36. Got Trek Fuel with bottom of the like ( well second from the bottom) RS Gold 35 and this basic fork is better!!!
  • 6 3
 @vinay: For sure - Cheaper bikes are better than ever, standard changes have slowed down, geometry changes are levelling out.

Getting mad because someone makes a very expensive thing is odd, unless you get mad about brands making other expensive things of course.
  • 6 3
 Why do people complain about the most expensive bikes made? go buy a fluid fs4 for under 3K.... or a polygon, or a marin, or a giant, or even low spec ANY OTHER BRAND. hell Rocky makes a under 3K bike even. cry about it. You need the highest spec like you need a high compression v12.
  • 1 0
 @RockyFish: So does every bike in this test except one. Feeling it wont be as big an issue when they are reviewed.
  • 4 3
 @ridingofthebikes: I think moaning about the price is OK - this thing is stupidly expensive for a push bike when we are realistic but people say 'why are bikes so expensive' which is a nonsense, this one is, other bikes are not like you say - just because cars with V12 engines exist it doesn't mean we all drive them.
  • 3 0
 @vinay: absolutely, who needs wireless? Low end tech is as good or better than high end tech of a few years ago.
  • 6 1
 @justanotherusername: but the Bugatti doesn’t come with off the shelf aluminum wheels. and it has a significantly better power to weight ratio than any run of the mill car. My point being that a $10,000 bike should have something significant that sets it apart from a $5,000 bike - carbon wheels, weight savings, etc.
  • 1 0
 Always has been that way. Back in the early 2000's a friend bought a $3+K DH bike that cost more than my car at the time.
  • 2 3
 @justanotherusername: someone did this when i said i got 11mpg out of my ferrari ....if i go slower i can get 16 it turns out and swedish doom troll is happy
  • 5 1
 @Compositepro: double figures in a Ferrari is pretty impressive to be honest.
  • 6 2
 @boopiejones: terrible argument - a Bugatti is not double the price of a good car, it’s like 50x more expensive.

And anyway it doesn’t need to be any better to cost more - why do people buy luxury watches? Handbags that do the same thing made from the same materials?

The Yeti is expensive, so go and buy a bike just as good from elsewhere for half as much, upto you.
  • 1 3
 Because the federal reserve like to print money all willy nilly Smile
  • 2 0
 In high school and the years following (2003-2010) we used to laugh at how our bikes cost more than our cars. So I don’t recognize the validity of your question.
  • 3 1
 @justanotherusername: I get what you're saying but a Bugatti will hold it's value...a bike won't. So every time I hear the argument..."Well Car and Driver rates/tests Ferraris because that's what people want"...Its an apples to oranges comparison. I'd spend the extra $$ on a USA Fender guitar because if I go to sell it 5 years later I'll get most of my money back...5 years later the Yeti...not so much.
  • 2 0
 @ivemadeahugemistake: IN high school 79-82, mt first cars were $1500 (1969 Triumph Spirtfire SCCA Prepared) and $2000 (1969 Chevy Camaro SS/RS 396).

I sold my BMX bike (1978 Redline custom) to buy my first car, the bike sold for $400 new. To extrapolate, a mountain bike of the same caliber as my BMX bike would have been roughly three to four times as much, which could have easily cost as much as my first car.

So yeah, high end mountain bike can be as valuable as a use car, and always has been.
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 Because enough folks open their wallet and pay whatever these clowns mark as MSRP, so it turns into a rich man's sport.
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 @sanchofula: You're missing the economies of scale. MTB's have become considerably more popular since that time, and we'd expect prices to come down.
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 @preach: no, you don’t get what I’m saying and you are changing the point.

The point is that expensive things exist and sometimes they do nothing better than the cheap things do - you don’t need to buy them and they don’t mean that all things are expensive.

It matters not one single jot if the thing ‘holds value’, completely different argument.

My point is people need to stop saying biking is getting more expensive when it isn’t.
  • 2 1
 @njcbps: Prices have come down, are you being deliberately obtuse?

Go look at bikes from Norco, Kona, Propain etc - a Yeti is a luxury high end item - that doesn’t mean prices are going up, just yeti prices.
  • 1 0
 Ok, let's compare. My first hardtail mountainbike in 2001 had a Judy TT fork with a coil spring and no damping whatsoever. V-brakes, 3x9 drivetrain, everything Deore. I spent the equivalent of 750 euros at the time. For the same kind of money you can now get a bike with reliable hydraulic disc brakes, viscous damping in your fork, a rear mech with a clutch. Every single improvement there is going to help you so much controlling your bike. On the contrary, if you buy an aluminium hardtail with v-brakes, a suspension fork without damping and a rear mech without clutch, it will cost you a fraction of what I paid back then. Sure, you can spend more on your bike and enjoy even more improvements. But if you want to compare the cost between now and then, this is how you should do that. It makes no sense to compare the cost of top of the line now to top of the line back then.
  • 2 0
 @boopiejones: @boopiejones: Of course a Bugatti comes with Off the shelf wheels idiot , they come off Bugattis shelf which is more expensive than Nissan or Toyotas shelf ,
  • 2 0
 @njcbps: go buy a $1500 polygon and quit with these lies already
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 @justanotherusername: thank you for clarifying, yessir.
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 @justanotherusername: Norco, for instance, is up about 10% from 2020 to 2022.
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 @njcbps: That would actually mean that prices have come down when you take inflation into account. The USD has inflated by 15.15% since 2020.
  • 1 2
 @gnarnaimo: It's not equal since wages did not match inflation - IE our buying power is less because less disposable cash.
  • 16 1
 Almost funny how Yeti can’t shake off the dentist and price point jokes and discussion while Santa Cruz and the likes have long left them in the dust regarding the ridiculous pricing.

But: how is nobody the absence of headset cable routing?! Cheer up guys! : )
  • 2 0
 depends where in the world you live in the UK santa clause riders get tagged in the AUDI driving camp AUDIs are or can be associated with complete nobbers, have a similar rep to BMWs not having indicators (turn signals for our american friends) so stigma everywhere depends how lower class you are suppose
  • 20 5
 This has gotten stupid.
Within about 30 seconds I understood it was a test of very expensive top-end bikes. No one forced me to read any farther.
If you're not interested, click the "back" button.
A month back or so, PB did a whole series on affordable bikes.

Do you guys email complaints to Car and Driver for testing Ferraris because you can't afford them?

As far as the "bikes have gotten so expensive" thing, I call BS.
$3500 today buys a bike that is 10x more capable than a $3500 bike 10 years ago.
  • 2 3
 My Canyon Spectral from 2015 weighs 12.5kgs (and cost 4k). I'm genuinely curious to know if this is any faster - or more fun to ride
  • 3 0
 @blackpudding: These are my two criterias for buying a bike. Price and weight ;-/
Because it is the only thing I can meassure?! :-))))
  • 2 0
 Agree. And people forget, flashy parts don’t fully mask a lousy design/geometry, and so based on this review you can assume the more “affordable” Yeti options are even more compromised. I actually just assume the reviewers are harder on the super bikes, which helps me decide which brand/bike to go with when I’m ready to purchase. Enduro s-works got great reviews - I found the lowest package that had components I knew were really good, and I spent 5k on it and am pleased. The S-works review of the bike during the enduro field test helped me narrow down my choices and ultimately decide. So I say keep ‘em coming, and be tough on the super bikes, PB!
  • 15 0
 Haha, the Norco is definitely going to be better, isn’t it?
  • 19 0
 We'll it's already faster on the efficiency test and the timed downhill...
  • 13 2
 Holy cow this isn't the top of the line model at $10k?
I have owned 2 Yetis and while they rode well and the switch infinity is cool...it drove me nuts with how often I had to maintain it. The 165 Especially, since you have to remove the rear swingarm to access the rear grease port on the switch infinity. Looks like this frame is the same.
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flag valrock (Dec 6, 2022 at 8:49) (Below Threshold)
 grease port? Like on tractors? You just pump grease into it? ahahaha.... ahahahaha... I really want to know but too lazy to google Big Grin
  • 7 0
 @valrock: yep, grease-gun job
  • 7 0
 THIS! I wish they would have made the second grease port more accessible.
  • 4 2
 thats cringe.
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 @valrock: Generally, grease ports are a good thing, as they can ease maintenance and prolong the life of high-stress suspension components. SC has traditionally had them feeding the lower linkage bearings, and famously Turner used them in their absolutely bulletproof bushing designs.

That said, I know suspension bikes, not tractors.
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flag valrock (Dec 6, 2022 at 9:43) (Below Threshold)
 @Grizzly134: I have a grease port on my bike... it's called full strip down every winter and regreasing every bearing Big Grin
  • 2 0
 Gease ports are not my favourite. I still don't get why SC still uses them. It's a messy job and imo the bearings don't last that much longer compared to proper enduro bearings.
  • 2 2
 Yeti needs to pull a Scott, and hide the switch infinity/ make the system waaaaay more reliable. There's really no reason to leave it totally exposed.
  • 5 0
 @Glory831Guy: on a second Yeti now, never had issues with reliability of switch infinity.
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 @dennis72: I wouldn't imagine they're super unreliable. I'm just the type of guy that puts a Mucky Nutz fender XL (or 2) on every bike I ride to keep dirt and sandy grit off of MY PRRECIOUS (suspsnsion stanchions.)
  • 2 0
 @bok-CZ: And if Scott can hide a whole freaking resevoir shock inside a frame, then surely Yeti can cover a measley pivot.
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 @Glory831Guy: I've tried to cover it, haven't find a way how not to damage other parts and you know what? Water hose works on it just the same as on suspension link for example. Again, its not an issue. Honestly most troubles with switch infinity have been recorded by people who rides other bikes
  • 8 0
 If you want to be the Ferrari/Porsche/McLaren of mountain bikes, you probably shouldn't be DFL going up the hill and DFL going down. It seems like the Yeti product manager pushed for an overly linear suspension design, because the target demographic wants "traction" and a "lively feel" for puttering around blue trails. Aggressive riders should look elsewhere because a 14% progression is not going to cut it.
  • 13 5
 Getting a bit tired off people comparing a top of the line bicycles with low end motorized vehicles. In what other sport with wheels other than bicycling can the ordinary man or woman buy the same bike as the best people in the world rides at world championships.
  • 9 1
 Roller disco competitions
  • 1 0
 @mick06: Should be a section on this site
  • 5 1
 I’d disagree. Factory downhill and factory motocross riders are generally riding tweaked versions of the top spec models with the most custom work done on suspension. Also motorcycle brands have been offering essentially WSBK road legal versions over the recent years. You can find the KTM “factory Edition” 450 for 10-11K.
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 @SvenNorske: "The most custom work" yeah sure, some guys in downhill test new and different stuff, but thats part of their job sort of, test and leave feedback to the engineers, and hopefully some of it will see production, thats all part of r&d. But a lot of guys are on actually oem parts, some with the factory shim stacks, some with custom tunes. You can still get it as a Joe. Moto guys are on much more special and expensive stuff. And not alot of it will see production. A mxgp bike is 100k+ USD from what I have heard.
  • 16 9
 Can I purchase 6 or 7 replacement switch infinity shafts and bushing sets, I know its gonna need one every 4 rides or anytime it comes near a toothpaste not certified by the dental association. Atleast I can get a second hand set of dental tools to get the seals out for cheap.
  • 11 1
 Dang, the heaviest, slowest, and most expensive. Truly a triple threat
  • 7 1
 If I was paying over $10,000, I would want a set of good carbon hoops. XX1 chain, too. Ridiculous.

I'm fine with PB reviewing high end bikes, but I do wish they'd review the lower-spec'ed ones. For example, review the Trek Fuel EX 9.8 XT. NOT the Trek Fuel EX 9.99 XXX1 +++ Flight Attendant Super Gold.

I know they do value bike field test - but just include these in the regular field tests.
  • 5 1
 It would be a good standing rule for PB to review the middle bike of the each range. Make the brands sweat a little by seeing who builds a good mid-range bike and who's putting the XT mech on a no-name drivetrain.
  • 10 1
 pretty certain its not entirely up to PB on the build but rather what the brand gives (aka wants) them to review. The person looking for a Yeti is already willing to spend 7-10k on a bike, makes no sense for the brand to send them lowest spec model to review if that's not the target demographic.
  • 11 5
 I think that someone at Yeti hired a market research firm and have been told that people are willing to spend $10k on one of their bikes and they are going for it. Car makers do the same thing. $10k for a bicycle is obscene.
  • 2 0
 Same with personal computers.
  • 1 1
 @mtb-journal: Absolutely. Apple has done that math and knows exactly how much they can ask for their stuff before people refuse.
  • 1 0
 @jmhills: First year of business/marketing school. Make an afordable computer but also make a maximum expensive computer to pick up the customer who are willing to pay that much for a top shelf computer (even if it isn't). Why should I sell a computer to you for 5k if you are willing to pay 10k for it. I sell you a computer for 10k. Everybody is happy. You are welcome :-) So simple.
  • 8 0
 Expensive, heavy and slow. Pick two?
In this case I guess you're stuck with all three.
  • 9 1
 Yeti absolutely has the worse website.
  • 4 0
 I still don't see how Yeti thinks it will compete with other brands that have integrated storage and adjustable geometry (and arguably lower maintenance). Paying a premium needs to be more than the name because there are tons of great bikes out there.
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  • 6 2
 They'll be just fine. Now that geo has stabilized, storage compartments seem like the latest fad the industry came up with to make you feel like your bike is outdated so you buy a new model (and also misguided headset cable routing for some reason) - a fixed size frame cubby with potentially awkward access does nothing for me that my gear strap didn't already do in a more flexible way. I'd rather have a downtube w/o an extra hole in it. It's not like adjustable geo is a new innovation - some people care others don't. My old bike had it, my new one doesn't - doesn't matter at all since new bike's geo is already dialed. As the review mentions, Yeti's have a unique suspension platform - some people love it, others don't - that's offering more than a name. If you want something like that, you can get a Yeti, SC, etc.

Where people actually seem to be paying for the name is with all the very similar 4-bar bikes - if the suspension is largely the same, all you're really paying for is the name and maybe geo and components. Is there anything really that unique between the way a Specialized, Canyon, Commencal, YT, Orbea, etc. etc. etc. all ride? Not in my experience.
  • 1 0
 @Chippps: Not sure it is a "fad" as much as a useful update to frame features. The two bolt "accessory mount" I've seen on my bikes in the past couple of years is about the biggest waste of two bolts I've ever seen in my life. But there's a huge difference between an accessory mount and being able to stuff a tube, pump, water bladder, etc in your frame. And I'm a minimalist that pretty much has never strapped much stuff to myself or my bike. But I'd much rather put some stuff in a SWAT box then my bib pockets or with a velcro strap to the downtube. I've owned 4 yetis in the past few years. I enjoyed them a lot. But in 2 years they went from being more or less priced similar to other premium companies to raising their frame prices about 30% without really any big improvements. The only thing I'm happy to see on their new models is a threaded bb. But yes, people will continue to buy them. I'm just saying, imo, they don't live up to the price. If you want to charge $4500 for an SB160 frame...well it better darn well be something incredible.
  • 7 0
 I'm not mad at the colour.
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 Can someone Explain why such low stack/short headtube is a good???

I've ridden bikes with low stack and ive hated every single one, even with high rise bars(They end up feeling flexy and vague as)

I wanted a Fuel ex - the new one, but its stack is to low. otherwise its a perfect bike for me
  • 3 0
 If you spend 2x - 3x your time pedaling up to the top of the hill, the more aggressive position can be good. With a longer reach, lower stack will encourage you to keep your weight on the front wheel while descending. I'm not saying that's necessarily what every rider wants. It's just my understanding of the rationale behind the design.
  • 4 0
 Short head tubes typically allow for more customization of your set-up. BUT, they need/should be paired with a fairly long reach for this work. 485 (Large) isn't the longest to work from but... Anyway, if you want all the reach and that low forward position, you just slam your stem and go. Want less reach and higher stack, add spacers, the more spacers you add, the shorter your effective reach gets. Want the reach but larger stack, add a higher rise handlebar as high rise bars don't affect your effective reach very much. Want less reach and even more stack... add spacers and a higher rise bar.

But, these newer longer reach bikes do work better with a more forward and aggressive position... too many spacers and shortening the reach too much can put you back a little too far and make it hard to weight the front of the bike. You might want to try and adjust before playing around too much.
  • 3 1
 Short headtubes let people who could be on a medium frame ride a large if they want to. It's not a great trend IMO but as long as complete bikes don't have the fork steerer cut super short it's not a huge deal.
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 @PhillipJ: with a longer reach you automatically end up putting more weight on the front without weighing the bars because your center of gravity is less rear biased so a shorter medium rider should have even more rise bars to get them closer Wink
  • 1 0
 @HeatedRotor: you can squeeze a little extra reach into a shorter wheelbase. Lower bar height uses a little extra fork travel so you can brag while doing your next root canal how you had to up your fork pressure because it’s just too easy to bottom out.
  • 1 0
 @LDG: Sorry, but physics disagrees with you. No matter your position on a bike, you may look like an alien but still you transfer your weight throug pedals and handlebar, both of which stay in the same place in relation to axles. So, it you want to put more weight on the front wheel you must increase force on the handlebar. Tha's why ultra long reach is a BS with a short stays, you simply ride on your hands and not on your feet like ou should (of corse still most of your weight is supported by the feet).
  • 1 0
 It is for people that are shorter or like shorter/lower bars or people with shorter legs that have lower saddle heights. For longer-travel bikes (and me having long legs) I find it just to mean I end up needing more spacers under my stem. But while you can always add spacers under your stem (or a high rise bar), you can't make your head tube shorter. On bikes that use long travel forks (say 170mm) it can also be an issue for some people to get their stem/bar low enough. So basically just gives people more flexibility to go low up front.
  • 1 0
 @foggnm: but what about average sized people on correct size frames, ie me on a large at 6ft, (i fall in the middle of a large size guide) id need alot of spacers and in this case a longer steerer tube but then they get super flexy same with higher rise bars.
  • 1 0
 @HeatedRotor: Flex is not such a big deal, but the fact that you cannot compare bikes sizes is.You have two L sized bike both with 480 reach, but one has 470 reach really Smile So it gets super confusing for the customer. And it looks stupid. And as a bonus, those upsizing folks ride actually bikes with longer reach then those correctly sized (cause they shorten the reach with 4cm od spacers...). There are no reasons for short headtubes in 2022 anymore, all bikes are almost too long, no sane people would upsize.
  • 8 1
 My alloy banshee prime weighs about the same, cost less than half.
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 And looks a lot better doing it.
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 About 90% on that being my next bike.
  • 5 0
 Less efficient than the Norco even tho it weighs less Slower downhill than the Norco even tho it has more travel Costs 2.5x as much Tough decision
  • 6 0
 Interesting choice in hoody @mikelevy
  • 9 0
 Tourist-mode engaged
  • 10 0
 @mikelevy: Just wanted to thank you for an amazing post. Great video, Great article for those of us that like to read instead. Amazing photo's to drool over. Really good information and an excellently thought out review.

Well done PinkBike!!
  • 5 0
 My impression of this review is, that guy Kaz is a damn good rider. Loving the photos too. Props to whomever that is.
  • 4 1
 It seems that it's once again feasible to build your own bikes. Not sure how you get $10K for this and not even get carbon wheels! I just picked up Stumpy EVO frame on sale for $2200! $4300 for the Yeti frame? What?
  • 3 0
 This is awesome, Yeti has a new area on their web site that will accept human flesh or functional organs as payment ~ who wouldn't give a kidney to own such a fabulous bike right?
  • 1 1
 Due to inflation they now cost your first-born child. Your second child is to pay for the Switch Infinity servicing...
  • 2 0
 @korev: I did not give birth to that child (its good for the environment) and I bought a Yeti instead. Or more :-)
  • 4 0
 I’ve made over six digits for a few years now and I still won’t buy a bike new that costs over $10K. Used like-new save yourself 30-50% if you learn to negotiate
  • 10 5
 Why does Dyson charge so much for a hair dryer?
  • 10 1
 because it is actually brilliant and the tech to make a motor spin at 80k rpm costs a fair bit to make robust enough to survive is pretty well though out unlike their stupid handheld hoover which literally does not suck....and for the wrong reason
  • 5 0
 Because it does something better then the competition... you think we'll find that in this case?
  • 5 2
 @Compositepro: Is that the same Dyson who said the UK needs more engineers and then shut the British factory down or the one who supported Brexit and then moved the company to Singapore?
  • 3 1
 @korev: what your point is is anyones guess in relation to what was written above
  • 2 0
 I used to love yetis but this batch of bikes from them seems totally unappealing: even more outrageously expensive than their old models, extremely heavy and consistently “meh” reviews
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer - Would you say the bike was too small for you? The geometry looks a size down to previous bikes and you looked so cramped on that bike.
You look so squashed going into corners and on the downs when i watched the video. Knees close to bar and over the front too much on the downs. 3.50 just made me squirm.

It looked like you needed the size up which would give you a higher front end and longer reach.
  • 1 0
 No, I wouldn't say it's too small at all. I would have liked a taller front end, which higher rise bars would have helped with. The size XL has a reach of 505mm, a number I've found to feel too long in the past.
  • 2 0
 you guys were trying so hard to say something remotely positive about this bike even though it was the slowest up and down. Not great value for the money and slow, yeah, I'd definitely look elsewhere for a new bike.
  • 2 0
 You don’t buy a yeti for the value. You’re never get a good value per dollar yeti. You buy it because you just want a badass bike. At 10,200 it should have carbon wheels tho
  • 1 0
 The only way to slack the head angle is to install a 9POINT8 headset, the only that works with fully integrated cups. I did that on my SB150 to steepen the HA since the chainstay are too short to get traction on front wheel otherwise. Definetely Yati has something with GEO
  • 1 0
 I do not get the critics on especially downhill handling. The bike was not really changed a lot from the 2019 SB130LR in terms from geometry e.g. the head angle is the same. Back in Dec 2018 PB said: "The SB130 hits out of its league on descents, so much so that I've consistently found myself questioning the safety of the speeds I feel comfortable riding this bike." I know time goes buy and the comparisons are now different. But the jumps in geometries since than has not been that big anymore...

On top everything I heard from the SB130 and SB150 line up in the past was, that on these bikes you have to overcome yourself to lean to the front to get everything out of it. Hence more bike for the Pros than for normal people. More or less the opposite to "over the front kind of a feeling" what was mentioned here. A 180 degree twist although geometry almost the same.

And when I hear, "I would prefer a higher stack", "shorter stem" and something into the direction of "head angle to steep" (=front hub not far enough in the front), why not taking a size bigger??? Stack goes up, front hub goes further out to the front and as compensation for this reach/length increase use a shorter stem. Front hub more to the front an stem shorter is a good combination to fight the "over the front kind of a feeling".

To make a long story short. Were all the weaknesses mentioned a result of a to small (short) bike???
  • 1 0
 What I absolutely dont get here is that they are showing the "new" SB140, the new Model after the SB130... as everyone forgotten that the SB140 is out since years??? This one is just the Facelift version of the SB140, a comparision and showing all the improvements would have been nice.
  • 5 1
 The color is amazing! I'm very happy to see color on bikes.
  • 8 5
 My theory is you North Americans have Stockholm syndrome for expensive ass bicycles.
  • 7 0
 Uhm, do you know what Stockholm Syndrome is?
  • 1 1
 @roxtar: A song by Muse isn't it? /s
  • 2 0
 @roxtar: the brands hold people captive with expensive bikes yet they are bought and loved
  • 1 1
 @samanual: That definition is really reaching but I'll concede.
Not sure how brands are holding us captive, however. Especially since there are more choices than ever for high performance bikes.

Mountain biking has always been an expensive, gear intensive, sport.
  • 5 1
 It is a beautiful looking bike!
  • 4 1
 Geo and category wise, this seems very similar to the Ibis Ripmo. Anyone been on both of them to compare?
  • 4 1
 Well, you can get an X01 AXS Ripmo with carbon wheels for about $1300 less. That's a comparison.
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flag bikewriter (Dec 6, 2022 at 18:36) (Below Threshold)
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 @bikewriter: I mean... it's pretty close, right? Head angle off by half a degree? Yes, the sizing points are different. I think my question would be, why would you ever pick this bike over a V2 RipMo?
  • 1 0
 @bikewriter: That appears to be the 150mm forked version rather than the 160mm they're reviewing in this article.
  • 2 0
 Exact same reach, exact same effective top tube, STA same, HTA differs by 0.1 degree, stack by 1mm, wheelbase by 2mm, chainstay by 3mm, BB by 1mm. The 7mm of rear travel difference is actually the biggest I see across the geometry chart. They seem very similar bikes to me geo wise.
  • 3 0
 @packfill: Or maybe you could buy a Ripmo AF and then when you've worn the tyres out buy a second...
  • 4 2
 It’s Yeti’s halo model, the status and prestige helps sell their cheaper bikes. It’s the high volume sales of their sub $3,000.00 bikes that is the real money maker.
  • 4 0
 If you don't think that bike is beautiful you're full a crap
  • 3 0
 32.7 lbs? Damn thats heavy for a 10K carbon frame build. My knolly fugitive build comes in at the same weight.
  • 2 0
 I’d love to rip around on this bike, I’m sure it’d be amazing. I had a 5.5 and loved it. I def wouldn’t (couldn’t) pay this for it though, so I’m out.
  • 2 2
 The Yeti’s are quite firm when applying a pedalling load. I bet the reason for the lower efficiency is the frame flex. The rear end wags like a dogs tail under pedal loads. It’s also what gives the bike traction and stability everywhere.
  • 1 0
 For me the mane questions are not answered. Why you tested with different tires and why you made the bikes not your own by fitting the cockpit? In this way, it seems you testing specs in the front and bikes in the back.
  • 1 0
 Sorry, about the tire question. You tested of course all bikes with the same tires. Smile
  • 4 0
 This entire thread is full of poor people
  • 1 1
 Does that make you feel better about yourself?
  • 6 3
 What's with the mismatched shock decals?
  • 3 1
 Can't expect that from a 10k Yeti, lol.
  • 5 0
 It is the attention to detail that you are paying for...
  • 4 1
 Because it sinks its claws deep into your wallet.
  • 4 2
 Not a glowing review. 4K for the frame and they don't like it. Yikes for Yeti.
  • 3 1
 I think it's 5k.
  • 3 0
 Autoplay on videos is terrible, always has been
  • 4 1
 CONS - 32lb $10,000 trail bike
  • 4 1
 transfer post will need warranty 10 minutes after unboxing
  • 2 1
 Perfect bike in need of some minor tweaks:
-1.5 degree angle set
+10mm lower headset cup
A shit load of volume spacers and then some more to fix the 14% progression
  • 3 1
 All of those things sound terrible to me.
  • 2 0
 @pmhobson: Don't be afraid to experiment. Sometimes adding dry leaves and grass inside the shock can be just the ticket to give you that supportive feeling. Your Yeti can be "improved", even though it already costs $10,000.
  • 1 1
 Had mid stroke support problems on sb66 and now sb150. I guess the x2 has a bumper, so that’s been my progression on anything more than 3’. Vpp is damn efficient, but it it is not the most fun. Santa Cruz solved something with the low shock mount I first rode on a nomad, but I’m sure it bobbed a lot more.
  • 2 3
 When discussing to steep or too slack head angles on a given bike I would at least appreciate a mention as to whether the frame has headset cups will accept anglesets Also, I would appreciate if reviewers would discuss whether they were using clipless or flat pedals for most of their review.
  • 2 0
 They don’t, clipless
  • 4 1
 Is the autoplay their way to boost YouTube views?
  • 1 0
 Wow that price tag makes me look at another brand even though I can buy this bike id shop around just to see what 10k would get me with another company
  • 1 0
 I'm totally blown away that for over $10k you get alloy wheels and an almost 33lb bike. I really want to know who the F is buying these.
  • 3 0
 Damn boi he thicc!
  • 1 1
 Is a 580 reach really too short for a Large size?
Some of the most popular trail bikes offer less than 580 for a L size like the YT Izzo or the Orbea Occam.
  • 6 0
 Do you mean 480?
  • 1 0
 @pmhobson: yep sorry, 480
  • 1 0
 Depends on the rider. Personally I like mine around 460. But 480 is on par for this bikes intent.
  • 2 0
 Love all the reviews this year.
  • 2 0
 Imagine paying $10,000 and only getting alloy wheels.
  • 1 0
 Bike is great and all but I want to know where I can get the hoodie @mikelevy is wearing in these videos.
  • 8 0
 At Mt Rushmore
  • 2 0
 The only Yeti i can afford to ride is a bigfoot.
  • 1 0
 Since the Propain Hugene came out there is no need in looking at other trail bikes. Perfection achieved!
  • 1 0
 Nice to hear there were no component issues on a couple of weeks of riding on a 10k bike
  • 1 0
 Looks the same as every other Yeti model, do their design department just copy and paste?
  • 1 0
 I with all these expensive bike reviews were behind the pay wall. I’m sick of the same comments over and over about price.
  • 1 0
 9:40 close up of improperly installed fender..... plastic washers were supposed to be removed...
  • 1 0
 Yeti bashing is more popular than the world cup. At least here in 'merica.
  • 9 10
 No mention of wheel size in the article? Do we just omit that now because everything will be a 29er? Seems weird to not even list it since this bike was 27.5 last version
  • 4 0
 Both versions are still selling -- check Yeti's website.
  • 7 6
 Can I roll this into my loan for Dentistry school?
  • 6 5
 So, a bike for the non-shredding dentist
  • 4 3
 Love the purp. Honestly most Yeti colors have been .
  • 3 2
 Just give us the Norco already! C’mon Mike. Let’s see it pal
  • 6 9
 Great review guys. Look forward to the others in the test. Seems like most brands don’t want to make an AM bike with 150/160 travel as a do it all bike and rather have separate categories. I’m all for a one metric system universe but I think mm in rear travel duped us from thinking that we just need more with bigger set of numbers. Used to be that a AM 5.5” travel bike could handle it all with a 36 up front. Pretty sure it still can! #MakeAllMountainGreatAgain
  • 4 3
 Still no frame storage? Or 2 frame bolts?….trash
  • 4 2
 Frame storage = rattle can. I can only keep gummy bears and beanie babies in mine.
  • 2 0
 @MiloRiderMTB: only rattles if you don't wrap your tools up
  • 5 0
 Don’t be a fool, wrap your tool.
  • 1 0
 @nateb: haha!
  • 3 3
 I could get two dental implants for the price of this bike easy! Four if I go to Mexico. And a full face helmet.
  • 4 4
 Given the price they could have at least colour matched the fork decals to the frame colour
  • 1 0
 Very good climber? 15 kg... Ouchhh
  • 2 0
 I like it.
  • 2 1
 Yawn…. A overpriced bike. I will buy a Norco.
  • 2 1
 Video stopped when he said $10K
  • 1 1
 “There’s no even close to affordable option” thanks for saying that out loud.
  • 1 0
 How does it compare to a Pivot Switchblade? Smile
  • 1 0
 $10000 and it has good traction? It Should be the best at everything
  • 2 1
 The valve stems are not lined up.
  • 13 14
 Switch Infinity is kind of an ugly overengineered looking mess. I hate yeti. And dentists. Especially dentists.
  • 19 2
 Ain't that the tooth!
  • 3 1
 @tprojosh: a purple dragon with dirty gold dental implants
  • 3 0
 @Edgibson: I just see the Dutch Wonderland dragon with @mikelevy smile from the one field test intro with he smiles.
  • 2 0
 @tprojosh: What a biting comment...
  • 3 3
 Dentist, Expensive, Corolla, Turquoise!!
  • 3 0
 I'd rather buy the Poorco
  • 1 3
 came on for the Yeti bashing, was not diss-appointed. Older Yete I demoed 2019?, super bad climber and not the best descender either. Sounds similar
  • 3 3
 I really want to visit C*nt rushmore
  • 2 1
 Got four cunts on it
  • 3 3
 I stopped reading at $10400. Just WTF!?!
  • 2 3
 Double the cost, same speed and now more weight. Makes about as much sense as switch infinity.
  • 1 1
 Uninspiring. Churlish and insubordinate
  • 1 1
 Cons: You may have to take out a second mortgage.
  • 1 1
 Heavy and slow, just like their target demographic.
  • 1 0
 27.5"+ ain't dead
  • 1 1
 berp
  • 3 4
 Wow 10000$ bucks for a slow heavy piece of poopoo...
  • 2 4
 I'm glad my dad just died; with his inheritance I can finally afford a mountain bike.
  • 1 2
 Looks like a bike for an elf who does not like to make toys.
  • 1 2
 I want a 160/140 mm bike, but not a Yeti.
  • 1 2
 4 vitus mythiques, or one of these.....
  • 1 1
 Revel wore it better.
  • 1 3
 YETTESLADENTIST.
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