First Ride: The 2019 Cannondale Habit is Shockingly Normal

Oct 9, 2018
by Sarah Moore  



It's been over three years since Cannondale released the last version of their Habit trail bike. With modernized geometry, 29" wheels, 130mm travel, a new Proportional Response suspension design, droppers across the board, and traditional forks, this is a very different bike from the one introduced in 2015. Cannondale says that their goal with this new bike is to deliver more control, more fun, and more efficiency.

The new Cannondale Habit is available with a carbon, a carbon/aluminum blended, and a full aluminum frame, with six different men's and three women's models, in sizes ranging from XS through XL. All models come with a flip chip and can be ridden with 29" or 27.5+ wheels. Cannondale has also launched a new version of the "Bad Habit" alongside the Habit for those who want their bike to come with the 27.5+ wheels.
Cannondale Habit 2 Details
• Intended use: Trail/all-mountain
• Wheel size: 29" (27.5"+ compatible)
• Head tube angle: 66 deg.
• Rear-wheel travel: 130mm
• Boost 15x110mm & Boost 12x148 spacing
• Carbon & Aluminum available
• Size: XS - XL
• 30 lbs. (no pedals, Medium)
• Price: $2,100 - $7,900 USD
www.cannondale.com



Cannondale Habit
Cannondale Habit


Construction

BallisTec Carbon front triangle:: The Habit 2 we feature here shares the same structure, lay-up, and shape as Cannondale's Hi-MOD carbon, but the stiffness and ride feel are dialed in with multiple layers of intermediate-modulus fibers, rather than the more expensive high modulus fibers. Cannondale says that the additional material adds a slight amount of weight, but delivers similar stiffness and deflection as the Hi-MOD versions.

SmartForm C1 Alloy swingarm: C1 uses every technique in Cannondale's arsenal to eliminate excess material and create optimized tube shapes. This includes hydroforming, swaging, mechanical shaping, forging, ultra refined taper butting and smooth, double-pass welds.

Cannondale Habit

Asymmetic Integration Offset Drivetrain: This offsets the drivetrain by 6mm so that the rear-wheel's spoke angles and tension are symmetric. The Habit has clearance for 27.5+ wheels and the offset also assisted designers to achieve their desired chainstay length. In this case, 435mm chainstays across the board for all sizes.

29 or 27.5 Compatible: A “flip-chip” allows riders to convert the Habit from 29" wheels to 27.5+” wheels.

Directline Cable Routing: Internal cable routing that uses a carbon tube to direct the cable exactly where it should go.

Water bottle mounts: Find your bottle exactly where you would expect it - easy to reach, on the down tube.


Cannondale Habit
Cannondale Habit


Frame Options & Build Kits

The Cannondale Habit is available in nine different build kit options, in both carbon and aluminum. They all have Maxxis tires, wide bars, powerful brakes with 180mm rotors, and dropper posts.

The top of the line Cannondale Habit 1 comes with a Kashima-coated Fox Float Factory 34 fork, a Fox Float Factory DPX2 EVOL rear shock, a Shimano XTR drivetrain, XTR brakes, a 780mm carbon handlebar, and a Fox Factory Transfer dropper. It sells for $7,900 USD.

The Cannondale Habit 2 that I rode had a Fox Float Performance Elite 34 fork and a Float Performance Elite DPX2 EVOL rear shock, a SRAM GX Eagle drivetrain, Guide RS brakes, 780mm carbon handlebars, and a Cannondale DownLow dropper post. It retails for $5,300.



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Cannondale Habit Carbon 1
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Cannondale Habit Carbon 2
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Cannondale Habit Carbon 3

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Cannondale Habit 4
Cannondale Habit
Cannondale Habit 5
Cannondale Habit
Cannondale Habit 6

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Cannondale Habit Women's 1
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Cannondale Habit Women's 2
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Cannondale Habit Women's 3

The women’s models come in XS, Small and Medium, while the rest of the models come in Small through XL. The women's models have women’s saddles, shorter crank lengths, and smaller diameter grips.


Geometry

Cannondale Habit


The seat tube angle on the Habit is 74.5 degrees. It's partnered with a 66-degree head tube angle, which is 1.5 degrees slacker than the previous Habit. The reach on the size-medium we tested is 430mm, which is just 10mm longer than the previous generation that came out in 2015. The sizing ranges from a tiny, 366mm reach on the XS, to 490mm on the XL. The seat tubes are long at 440mm on the size medium.


Suspension

The biggest change from the previous generation of the Habit is Cannondale’s new “Proportional Response” suspension system. When starting development of the new bike, the design team found that feedback on each bike varied based on the size of rider that was testing it. That discovery made them look more deeply into how a rider’s center of gravity influenced suspension performance.

The “Proportional Response” suspension system uses a four-bar, Horst Link suspension platform, configured around the average rider’s center of gravity for each frame size. The designers have adjusted the kinematics to react the same for each size so that every rider enjoys similar suspension performance. Most companies have one suspension design for all different frame sizes, so having a specific suspension kinematic for each size is unique.

Cannondale Habit
Cannondale Habit

bigquotesAll other bikes use the same pivot locations across their size ranges because it’s easier to design. One-size-fits-all is not the optimal approach for suspension. A rider’s center of gravity has a big impact on how the suspension reacts to inputs like braking and pedaling. With Proportional Response, rather than simply changing the stack and reach dimensions of the frames, we’ve custom tailored the suspension pivot locations for each size bike and rider, so no one is left behind. They all get the perfect ride.Luis Arraiz, Cannondale frame design engineer





My first ride on the new Cannondale Habit was in Whistler on a variety of singletrack. When setting off, the big thing I noticed was the tall seat tube. I’m 5’7” with a 27" inseam, and I couldn’t use the 150mm dropper at full extension. There are plenty of medium-sized bikes out there with shorter seat tubes, so there’s no excuse for this.

Once I started climbing, I found myself leaning far over the bars to make sure my front wheel didn’t lift. I moved the saddle forward and didn’t have any issues after that. In fact, I really liked the way the Habit's suspension sucked up the small bumps while I was climbing. I had tons of traction and not much pedal bob. I felt like it was a really reliable climber and I could trust it not to go off line or spin out. I also liked that it came with a 30T chainring for the steep climbing around Whistler.
Cannondale Habit
Sarah Moore
Location: Squamish, BC
Age: 28
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 160lbs
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @smooresmoore

When the trail turned downward, I was confident on the 130mm Habit. There was amazing small bump compliance. The bike felt super plush going over small and medium roots and rocks. The one thing I noticed was that, under braking, I found that the front end would dive initially and so I found myself riding farther back on the bike to compensate.

Overall, the Cannondale Habit 2 had a great component selection, especially when it came to the tire selection. I think the seat tube height could be lower, and the seat tube angle could be a touch steeper to put more weight on the front tire, but I'd feel comfortable taking this bike out on a long pedally day and even doing a marathon event like BC Bike Race on it. The Habit 2 might not be the lightest, fastest bike out there, but it's a reliable climber, has a good aggressive spec, and is able to take anything most trail centers would throw at it.

Cannondale Habit



337 Comments

  • + 147
 Rat boys new bike.
  • - 6
flag marianodh21 (Oct 9, 2018 at 7:18) (Below Threshold)
 how come?
  • + 26
 Haha I thought the exact same thing, 50to01 fender and Santa Cruz Reserve Wheels in the video. I wonder if Cannondale is sponsoring the full 50to01 crew.
  • + 14
 The IG promo is so 50to01 inspired. First clip is skating. All jumps and jibs. Then watched the video for the bike here and it’s the kid from the fabric whistler video.

Seems like a good plan. Make a bike people wanna ride and get your hands in the current “coolest scene” in Mtb’s as much as you can.
  • + 17
 What was that Linkin Park song... breaking the ... ?
  • + 15
 Max Nerurkar/'3dumb' is the rider, he's a 50:01 gentleman.
  • - 5
flag iqbal-achieve (Oct 9, 2018 at 8:12) (Below Threshold)
 @badbietz: at least Loose will stay with Santa I think. Not too sure about Craig, Sam etc.
  • + 2
 @dingus: Max is wildly talented, I'm watching this guy. He's going to make a mark.
  • + 15
 @Nathan6209: I had to stop following him because I got bored of watching people squaring off berms and making dust clouds. He’s very good on a bike no doubt but watching people ride park jumps and corners gets old quick. Maybe I’ll hit follow again, I guess he’ll be back at wharny by now and I’ll witness some variety.
  • + 9
 No Lefty.
  • - 19
flag freeridejerk888 (Oct 9, 2018 at 10:23) (Below Threshold)
 I hope not. Idk why'd you leave a bike comply with a reputation for impeccable quality for one that's just horrible
  • + 1
 @iqbal-achieve: what did you just say? How dare you?
  • + 3
 @thenotoriousmic: lol it comes from a good place. The guys clearly creative. I’ll come back when he starts skating into caveman drops again. And it wasn’t just him. I got tired of gram scrolling and all I saw was berm slide after berm slide.
  • + 2
 @dingus: I think you'll find it's Max is clayspades mentality with a 50-01 mix
  • - 5
flag thenotoriousmic (Oct 9, 2018 at 15:34) (Below Threshold)
 @iqbal-achieve: you’ve got a haters mentality. I’ll never tire off a berm slide.
  • - 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Breaking the habit by Linkin Park
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: hahaha well played waki!
  • + 1
 @Longroadtonowhere: Gnarly to think that kid was sending it that huge on a 140/130mm travel bike
  • + 101
 "Cannondale says that their goal with this new bike is to deliver a product that people will finally purchase."

- fixed
  • - 3
 "Driiin driiin.."!! Canyon called: they want their Torque design back !!
  • + 63
 looks like a...Jeffsy?
jokes apart, solid looking bike, must be fun as hell to ride. love the dual color rocker link / yoke in green / black..
  • - 26
flag rrolly (Oct 9, 2018 at 6:21) (Below Threshold)
 I'd hold off on the "solid" part right now. I watched my buddy snap his 2018 Habit's rear stay off a 2 ft drop.
  • + 14
 @rrolly: flex stays on the old Habit. This one has a real linkage
  • - 19
flag marianodh21 (Oct 9, 2018 at 7:18) (Below Threshold)
 capra
  • + 6
 @marianodh21: this looks almost nothing like a Capra.
  • + 5
 If anyhing, it looks like a Hightower front with a Stumpy rear. Not a bad mix.
  • + 45
 Wow Cannondale stepped it up! That bike looks dialed.
  • - 81
flag properp (Oct 9, 2018 at 6:12) (Below Threshold)
 Looks just like another sell-out company to me. One that puts profits over customers.
  • + 79
 @properp: you need a snickers bar today, huh?
  • + 17
 @properp: you're just not yourself
  • - 12
flag Whipperman (Oct 9, 2018 at 6:25) (Below Threshold)
 Such an original bike
  • - 1
 @properp: Grow up.
  • + 10
 @properp: what company sold you a bike for no profit if that were the case than bikes would be sold at cost to everyone. Why is Cannondale a sell out vs insert your preferred brand here.
  • + 4
 @loganflores: Cannondale was bought by Dorell around 10 years ago
  • + 6
 Actual seat angle. Pass.
  • + 4
 @powderturns: definite fail on STA.
  • - 12
flag burnadette (Oct 9, 2018 at 10:19) (Below Threshold)
 @properp: agreed, cannondale seems to get a free pass for some reason...

People do not realize Cannondale is run by a marketing department and has the same level of investment in the industry as Walmart.

Dont believe me? just look at who owns Cannondale. you might find yourself asking who is "Dorel industries?"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannondale_Bicycle_Corporation
  • - 13
flag freeridejerk888 (Oct 9, 2018 at 10:25) (Below Threshold)
 Cannondale sucks and they also treat their employees like slaves as well. I'm not sure how gt managed to do anything cool while being owned by the sam company @burnadette:
  • + 13
 @burnadette: I would love to see the standards you set for yourself and which do you live up to in order to call out Cannondale for whatever the fk you think is wrong with it. Because all I see is you playing identity politics typical to people with IQ of sub 100. It doesn't surprise me at all that your pen pals today are properp and freeridejerk.
  • + 24
 @freeridejerk888: As a former cannondale employee of the past four years, I did not feel like a *slave*. GT was always the cooler brand to work for, cdale is slowing trying to earn it's cool back. Most of the struggling bike industry brands are lucky enough to have a large conglomerate buy them out to keep them alive. With that always comes a price of being part of a portfolio brand.
  • + 11
 @burnadette: free pass from who? Nobody’s given a shit about Cannondale since they dropped everyone about ten years ago and stopped making dh / freeride bikes.

I like how everyone’s hyped on this bike now that they think ratboys going to be on it though.
  • - 4
flag yzedf (Oct 9, 2018 at 19:59) (Below Threshold)
 @thenotoriousmic: have you read the last two puff pieces on here about them?

That aside, there's a strong contingent of Yeti lovers out there, the only reason Rude races enduro is because they don't make DH bikes anymore.

Not to mention all the Santa Cruz lovers... And they are sellouts too.

It's just business. If I gave a shoot about history, I'd never have bought half the bikes I currently own....
  • + 2
 Missed the steep seat angle memo..
  • + 2
 @freeridejerk888: damn boy, you got nothing but negativity, go out and ride
  • + 2
 @thenotoriousmic: everyone who? It’s yet another Country Duro bike and also, why would anyone give a sht what bike Ratboy rides? Does that mean we should throw crap at cannondale and lick Santa Cruz balls? What’s bright about that?! It seems that it is the negative crowd that are loosing their sht over Bryce on Cannondale. Maybe Josh should ride a steel 26” hardtail with old Marzocchi?
  • + 1
 Wow. Cannondale now makes a generic Horst-Link bike to get lost in the sea of Horst-Link bikes, just like everyone else. I guess this is the big change all the internet whiners wanted?
  • + 0
 @ka-brap: never! You have fun with that you here.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: It probably sucks to see people other than yourself having an opinion about a bike company. You are a 37 year old pinkbike troll and you are trash! Stop campaigning for Cannondale, they don't need your help to save their brand.
  • + 1
 @burnadette: Campaign for Cannondale? Congratulations you lost your mind.
  • - 3
 @WAKIdesigns: I have read some of your comments... Im pretty sure you dont actually know how to read English.
  • + 3
 @burnadette: it is fine, I do not assume malice where stupidity is the obvious explanation. Take care Cheers!
  • - 8
flag burnadette (Oct 10, 2018 at 8:28) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: I am laughing at you. You are a clown. Be a more productive and humble person.
  • - 1
 @burnadette: really? You know nothing about me and my productivity.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: Yes really, I think it is a good policy to laugh at people who talk down to others. I also do not assume productivity where I encounter dissonance.
  • + 0
 @burnadette: Are you f*cking out of your mind on a world’s mental health day? You spewed a hefty belch of bullshit about company and it’s employees you know nothing about, which basically qualifies as talking down on them and you will accuse me of the exact sht you did yourself? That is being non humble bulsshit spewing nose sticking ahole.
  • - 2
 @WAKIdesigns: You probably have me mistaken with one of your multiple personalities. Look into cannondale and do some research!

Secondly, I was never talking down to anyone, I was agreeing with another comment on the post. (You basically just hijacked the convo and inserted yourself.)

And finally, YOU HAVE ZERO humility and have done nothing but namecalling since we started tagging each other in responses. Just re-read what you have typed. You have called me and everyone else who disagrees with you and idiot in some fashion or another. You are as embarrassing as you are shameless.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: mate have you any idea how many Santa cruz’s that lads sold? He’s sold more bronsons this year than luca shaw will sell in his life. My point is that a lot of people (not everyone) has a whole different opinion on Cannondale due to the ratboy link.

I’ve got a judge frame in my garage still. My arse is covered when I slink back to Cannondale on the quiet.
  • + 0
 @burnadette: I don’t look down on you, I try to look away since we started.

@thenotourismic: it is hard to determine the numbers how many Bronsons Ratboy sold but considering that at least in Europe most of them ( as well as Yetis and Intenses) are bought by people in German and Swedish SUVs I cannot imagine Ratboy speaking to them in any way. The whole concept of 50to01 riding shiny carbon Santa Cruzes seems alien to me. It’s like Chris Froome racing at Malverns, it just doesn’t work.
  • - 7
flag burnadette (Oct 10, 2018 at 14:35) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: You're trash bud.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: yeah it’s hard to put an exact number and how many he’s sold but are you serious telling me he’s not selling bikes?
  • + 2
 @burnadette: he’s alright don’t be a hater.
  • + 6
 @nojzilla: I know that I worked for a shop that sold gt. What you seem to miss is that if major company’s didn’t support bike brands that sell entry level bikes those company’s would disappear and so would the industry. boutique bike brands cater to hardcore fans but you buying a 4500$ Bike every three years pales in comparison to selling tons of 500-800 Entry level bikes. the amount of riders total greatly affects trail advocacy if we have more people joining our sport it doesn’t matter if they are hard core or moderates. Your hardcore riding is subsidized by all the entry to mid level riders. I don’t necessarily like big company’s owning bike company’s but I understand the necessity for it. If you don’t like huge corporations I’ll ask you this what device did you write this on? And do you use amazon? Nothing more hypocritical than bitching about corporations on an iphone.
  • + 0
 @loganflores: who's bitching? You asked about selling out..
Cannondale where a big successful company before they where bought but, they made all types of bikes. DH DJ trail XC. I had a Chase that was awesome, I really put that bike through some shit an it held up for a good few years.

When they where bought out, they dropped DJ an DH/FR an dorell used the Dale name as s brand to focus mainly on XC then later Enduro when they could make a buck. Its mass marketing, its the dictionary definition of selling out.

You asked, I offered an opinion, an no. I don't use amazon.
  • + 4
 @nojzilla: with all due respect to our many conversations that I enjoyed, people can whine on someone selling out when they themselves have been in a similar situation and haven't sold out. Because I assure you that if you are in front of a prospect of getting 6 numbers for your company you'd be thinking about it very long. Especially if company is on the way down and somoene wants to buy it. So it is easy to be a smart arse about selling out when you are young, dumb, broke with no responsibilities like some twats here. Also Santa Cruz is also a "sell out" furthermore making mostly 120-150mm plastic bikes for owners of SUVs with business package, Syndicate just stopped being golfer boys club after Peaty left, so saying that it has more soul than Cannondale is a stretch.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: oh I understand big business, even from my bargain basement, sale rail, BMX point of view. Thing is I've never claimed otherwise, I know i'm a hypocrite. Big Grin X
  • + 0
 @nojzilla: help a brother out, I can manual a DJ for considerable distance (getting tired being limiting most often) changing direction with minimal or sometimes no use of rear brake, which makes me profficient I guess... now I am playing with race BMX, damn hard for me to get used to and the rear brake is crap. I ended on my bum way too many times. Should I find a better rear V-brake/lever combo or just fkng learn to pull it more gently? Which seems counter-productive because i want to learn to play with BMX to be more confident when pulling hard on BMX track
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I would say I find personally MTB an BMX differ in manual style in that, I manual an MTB quite upright an high with my body wieght closer to center (more like a wheelie position) while BMX I (used to) lean waaay back with my bum a LOT closer to the ground. An not just cos of the smaller wheels.. kinda like the balance point on BMX is looser an lighter but, faster to effect.. if that makes sense??

kinda.. MTB has a finer balance point so less movement once its found, as apposed to with BMX you can really play with the balance point but its gonna flip out quicker

hope that makes sense
  • + 1
 @loganflores: try and get discount on a high end bike and you’l piss yourself at how much they’re willing to knock off to get the sale. In fact I don’t ever look at prices of anything I’ll just ask the shop keeper how much he really wants for something and they’ll knock something of at least. Try to do the same with a specialized hard rock or something similar and you’l literally get laughed at. They sell like hot cakes or did last time I bought one.
  • - 1
 @nojzilla: yeah, movements must be faster and more precise. And side to side balance is fkd up on BMX... I literally think with my buttcrack if it's in line with tyre patch before I pull. Then if you get that wrong on a set of doubles on BMX track, you fly sideways and it ain't a good thing Big Grin amazing how aware one has to be of side to side pitch on the kids bike.
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: meh doesn’t count if you use a brake. Might be acceptable in the mtb world where there no standards or principles but in the Bmx world it’s not really acceptable to use a brake to do manuals. Why do you even have a brake anyway take it off and learn to manual properly. Also I can’t really manual a mountain bike can’t get the pull right after years of manualing bmx’s But once I’ve got a mtb into a manual they’re proper easy to keep going in my experience rally hard to loop out on.
  • + 0
 @thenotoriousmic: when I roll at 20km/h or more I really do not give a sht about etiquette. It’s like, riding X kind of bike in X kind of place is “cheating”, well go Eff yourself. In my short life I met too many sad fks who had often self made etiquette who never got very far in anything, and then I met too many happy and relaxed genuine shredders. And then those people come to me and say: ooooh you rode that sketchy sht on a DJ?! You climbed that on single speed?! And the answer always is: just get your head out of your butt and try it. It’s not hard at all once you commit. What I mean is: there are no medals for ascetism because that is much easier than delivering your best.
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns: ride your bike however you want but it’s not really the correct way of doing it. If you want to improve you’ve got to use the correct technique of nailing the balance point your doing yourself no favours in the long run because you haven’t actually acquired the skill your just going past the balance point and pulling it back with them brake and mimicking a manual.

www.instagram.com/p/BXgRLjsgrqW/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1fbzx58tmgkdb
  • + 0
 @thenotoriousmic: you miss one thing, he does it as his main thing. I run BMX as a side thing, even more side thing than the gym. There is nothing dumber than getting injured in your side show. Also once you pull a brake on a BMX your front wheel lands down so I don't know how the hell is that applicable? You can't coast brake a BMX. I would never learn to manual at all if not the rear brake. Isn't rear brake a good tool to learn to manual without a brake? Rather than not be able to manual at all? Nothing stops development better than purism. A thought of you have it or you don't. Check out Amish people how it worked out for them.
  • + 0
 @thenotoriousmic: rad manual post. Thanks for the link I enjoyed it.
  • + 1
 @nojzilla: did it occur to you that dj and freeride bikes are hard to sell I always thought of Cannondale as an xc brand with some extras I’m always disappointed when company stops making djs or freeride bikes but I can understand why. You also have a plethora of dj specific company’s that arguably offer better bikes with less generic geometry.
  • + 1
 @loganflores: so how come dorell still had other companies they owned at the time still making jump bikes.......
Like I said, it's mass marketing of named brands. Aiming products at target demographics etc etc....
  • + 1
 @nojzilla: gt and mongoose are known bmx brands it’s easier/ expected for them to sell djs. An 09 chase was 1200$ at the same time gt made 600$-1200$ Not really a fair comparison if you offer bikes at a lower price more people will buy it a brand like Cannondale isn’t known for dirt jumpers. Also the chase was always a vertical drop frame with a generic geo. Who really wanted a vert drop dj in 09. Look at the last chase vs every other dj made the same year it was not an innovative groundbreaker it was outdated and overpriced. I did like the 1.5 head tube though should be standard.
  • + 1
 @loganflores: I loved my Chase, rode 4X, DJ, trail an as far as I could push it at park type DH an FR. At the time it was my only bike. Old school RS Pike with the motion control 95-140mm in 5mm increments. A VERY versatile hard tail. It held up to some HARSH slams too! couple of times I expected it to be in two parts. And that frame was LIGHT!!! under 4lb!!!
Loved it Especially as at RRP of £1200 I picked it up for £700 same year model but end of season sale........
This was back when Dales where US made. All the £ was in the frame.
As for the Geo.. how many other DJ'ers came in 4 frame sizes? I'd put the frame quality up there with something like a Santa Cruz Jackal
  • + 1
 @nojzilla: I owned Gemini DH Replica, everybody suck my balls.
  • + 1
 @nojzilla: the chase much like the stp had generic do it all geo I didn’t say they weren’t nice bikes I wanted a chase since I was a kid but they do everything well enough but nothing really well at least vs a dj specific frame vs a hard tail freeride frame or a 4cross frame or a street specific. If you look at other company’s at the same time like ns they had a specialty frame for all those categories. While perhaps not as light as the chase an ns bitch or majesty would probably hold up better learning 360s and tailwhips while having a better geo for tailwhips and other highly technical tricks. I mostly ride a hard tail freeride bike or a dj have for over ten years I have a few freeride frames I should probably put together but my hardtail usually beats it out. Ironically I had a similar setup in 07-09 130mm freeride hardtail 9x1 later had the same fork. And now I have a similar setup as a commuter. We seem to agree on some points but I think the sellout part is more not being able to afford to make unprofitable bikes. Djs have such a small market people think we are crazy.
  • + 1
 @loganflores: oh agreed totally. I also had an NS Majesty (dirt) Smile an it was, at the time THE most BMX like geo I've ever ridden on a jump bike.I REALLY regret selling it! Frown NS undeniably LED the way in quality well thought out, smooth sleek looking an functional jump bikes when most companies where making frames like tanks with wierd tubes an gussets all over.

Though.. If I was going into the woods for more MTB style stuff I'd rather have the Chase....

Thing is... (as far as I know) NS are still NS, from their early DJ hard tail roots to thier modern DH,FR an Endurbro bikes. They've sucseeding in coming a LONG way as a company an all the time put out quality products at all price points. Octane One was NS's budget brand? If I'm correct? And they've done that, like I said as far as I know . Without selling out..

I guess that's the best way I can say as to why I'd rather put my £$£$ into a company like NS. Than Cannondale
  • + 1
 @nojzilla: sounds like we are cut from the same cloth I had a soul cycles rosco wish it wasn’t stolen best hartail freeride bike I ever had. I’m a huge ns fan first new frame I bought was a ns bitch then the ns traffic when that was stolen. I’ve never bought a Cannondale new or a trek or spec or anything other than a gt bmx years ago. On a spank now a bit heavy that 4 pounds is sounding nice right about now.
Cheers. Happy hucking
  • + 33
 Is it possible that we see some short travel bikes comparison in near future?

This bike, GT Sensor, Norco Fluid FS 29er, Stumpjumper ST etc...
  • + 10
 seconded and i'll throw in the Knolly Fugitive LT
  • + 5
 @wowbagger: And a Ripley
  • + 11
 And Giant Trance 29er..
  • + 4
 Add the Occam TR
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 GG Trail Pistol
  • + 5
 @wowbagger: saw a fugitive TL in the flesh awhile ago and it was loooooovely
  • + 18
 @Brdjanin we have lots of these coming in our Field Test, plus a boat-load of other bikes. Smile
  • + 1
 @Kickmehard: that Gulf livery...
  • + 2
 Transition Smuggler
  • + 1
 @brianpark: l would be keen to see the last clay in the mix, it's done pretty well in the european bike battles.
  • + 29
 Looks like a jeffsey slept with a spectral.
  • + 32
 We shall name it the Canyondale Jefbit
  • + 2
 @moonraker: I like Hoffsy more.... Or Hobsy? Big Grin
  • + 7
 Or a Ripley and a Spectral? Rect...
  • + 0
 Jeffsy with Spectral? We'll call her Spesy.
  • + 20
 I'm a bit sad to see them not employing any weird stuff on this bike. They had always been willing to try something different even if it looked like nothing else on the market. I never bought any of their more unique designs though so thats probably why they are putting out something so normal.
  • - 11
flag Whipperman (Oct 9, 2018 at 6:27) (Below Threshold)
 Assymetric rear triangle is annoying enough
  • + 21
 Clearly you've never worked in warranty.
  • + 21
 @HsawAknow: clearly you've never worked at a mcdonald's in florida on a hot summer day
  • + 0
 Conforming is the new cool thing apparently.
  • + 1
 They should call it the Camry
  • + 18
 Why is this bike 30lbs without pedals? Carbon frame, Fox 34 (not 36), 130 travel, $8k, medium...so there is an HR-2 and a DHF...still seems heavy. Must be boat anchor cranks, bars, seat, wheels?
  • + 18
 I am skeptical when I see a weight under 30 lbs unless it's an XC race machine or $8k. This might just be an accurate weight.
  • + 1
 @husstler: my cannondale habit SE with an alluminium rear end is at under 28lbs... but it is a bit more xc geo and smaller wheels!
  • + 6
 Seems to me that even the nicest of consumer carbon bikes just don't weigh less enough than their AL counterparts to justify the price difference. Pound or two difference at most seems to be the norm. The cost to weight isn't there for me. My AL jeffsy is 31 pounds without pedals and lists for $2600. Over time, I'll be putting carbon and lighter bits on it and expect it to be under 30 lbs, but I'll still come out ahead on price and I'm not extreme enough to need the extra strength that carbon delivers.
  • + 5
 Yes 30 lbs does seem heavy. If that extra weight is carbon in the frame for durability, that would be ok.
  • + 1
 Full carbon and 8K is for Habit 1. The weight listed here is for the Habit 2, which has a carbon rear.
  • + 21
 Haha you weight weenies kill me - seriously, if you think a couple extra ounces here-and-there will effect your riding at all, I have news for you - if you suck on a heavy bike, you're going to suck even more on a lighter bike. Stop counting ounces and start smoking them.
  • + 10
 @NYShred: 2018 we on that 710 vape life brobra, but you ain't lie.
  • + 3
 @Poulsbojohnny: what extra strength that carbon delivers? There’s a reason why the majority of companies still run alloy swing arms for strength or durability if you want to use the marketing from the latest Process.
  • + 2
 "Why is this bike 30lbs without pedals? Carbon frame, Fox 34 (not 36), 130 travel, $8k, medium"

The weight was given for the Habit 2 which costs $5.3k. The $8k bike will be significantly lighter on swingarm, wheels, groupset and dropper before even diving into smaller components.
  • + 2
 Most bike companies are making their frame heavier to combat the beatings that people are putting on bikes. Not a lot of trail bikes under 27lbs these days which is unfortunate.
  • + 2
 @husstler: Yep, I reckon some manufacturers stretch the truth and when people weigh their own bikes they have dodgy scales or forget to re-weigh after they've added pedals and a dropper and heavier tyres. One of my bikes is a Norco Revolver FS with XTR, other pretty nice bits and lightish tyres, and I regularly see people saying how their trail bike with minions is only a pound or two heavier than it weighs on my scales.
  • + 1
 @markinator: I can relate to that. I had a carbon Devinci Django 29r, a lot like the bike reviewed here, and it was just over 30 lbs with pedals, or closer to 32 lbs with proper tires. Any of my riding buddies saw the carbon and picked it up, telling themselves it was lighter. Not always the case, that the bike is lighter when carbon.
  • + 2
 im totally fine with bikes being heavier. I run dh tyres and a coil it want my bike to be able to take a beating.
  • + 1
 @husstler: Trek Fuel EX 9.8 size Large is 28lbs and is around $5K new...
  • + 19
 That's what 3_dumb has been riding! he 360'd it. www.instagram.com/3_dumb/?hl=en
  • + 1
 In before RAT BOY comments
  • + 17
 Holy shit Cannondale went Horst link! No more single pivots here. Looks like a good bike though. Just strange to see them drop their old school designs. For best I'm sure.
  • + 15
 When I used to work in a LBS, Cannondale would always try to talk shit on FSR. A horst-link 4-bar is clearly one of the leading suspension designs, it's why everyone is utilizing it now that Specialized's patent has expired.
  • + 5
 @ka-brap: Yeah. It's funny seeing companies talk-down other suspension designs, especially Spesh, and then copy it later. Are we getting to a point where for trail bikes we are going to see horst, DW, and VPP. How long does Trek hold out on ABP before switching to horst?
  • + 6
 @dhx42: They won't as there is no reason to. The ABP though technically a single pivot has almost all the advantages of the Horst link system and some advantages the Horst link system does not. Both ABP and Horst link allow the suspension designer to limit anti-rise which is the main sticking point with a "normal" single pivot design.
  • + 3
 @ka-brap: and now Specialized has a single pivot bike in their lineup.
  • + 1
 @lccomz: They have 2, if the P-slope is still kicking around Wink
  • + 15
 30T with Eagle ? The whole point of it was to be able to run a bigger chainring.
  • - 14
flag WAKIdesigns (Oct 9, 2018 at 8:31) (Below Threshold)
 Mountain Biking is the new White People. #shitmountainbikersdo #onlyinmountainbiking #gearjerryoftheday #brorange
  • + 5
 Pretty common. Haven’t found a bike sold with eagle that comes with an appropriate sized chainring yet. The intention was to run a bigger ring, but in reality, I guess the average person just wants an easier gear or two with the same high end.
  • - 12
flag WAKIdesigns (Oct 9, 2018 at 10:11) (Below Threshold)
 @komodo1: exactly one should not assume malice when things can be easily described by stupidity or lazyness or both
  • + 24
 I don't get this attitude/gripe. For the vast majority of buyers, this bike/spec won't be raced in a high-level XC race or whatever. So why not spec a gear that works well for regular folks climbing up to the top of the mountain?

Anybody who regularly needs a 34x10 top gear knows exactly who they are and what gearing they need Smile

Meanwhile I do love my 30T ring with 50T cog while making that 3rd ascent of the day up the 18% section of forest road.
  • + 37
 I heard if you run 28t + eagle the bike goes backwads
  • + 10
 @wubbalubbadubdub: dude your comment just makes so much sense. These gear ratio snobs are always going to put their noses in the air and claim grinding the tallest gear makes them a king. BS, people who pedal trail bikes with real tires capable of real decents up big mountains will utilize the whole range. I’m taking about normal people here.
  • - 5
flag LOLWTF (Oct 9, 2018 at 20:52) (Below Threshold)
 @northshoreshred: or maybe you're the one who's not normal... 30x50 is ridiculous
  • + 2
 Have a friend who runs 24 front 50 back Smile Ofcourse, vertirder.
  • + 2
 Most people with 5000 plus dollars aren't 24 years old, brah.
  • + 14
 Why so little reach and so much seat tube?
  • + 5
 Yeah, slightly wierd sizing. If I want more than 460mm of reach I also need to have a 520mm seat tube? Hard pass!
  • + 2
 yup, seem "old" style geo. but actually im pleased they have at least 49cm on XL, im 6.3" FSR on rear is bonus Smile
  • + 0
 Orthopedic bike for the older riders. Don't want them moving about to much and keep them sat up straight.
  • + 9
 Seat angle looks a little slack compared to today's trends, but I'm sure it rides fine. Sometimes they're a little out there, but c-dale engineers tend to think things through. And at least this one doesn't need a proprietary shock.
  • + 10
 Looks like a specialized, which should mean it will be a great trail bike. Good for Cannondale going for a more traditional layout in lieu of a pull shock etc.
  • + 3
 Same thing I thought when I saw it, Santacruz front triangle, Specialized/Commencal link and rear triangle. Looks good to me!
  • + 1
 @asboites: argh, specialized and commencal employ different linkages. The Jekyll has a commencal-style linkage, which is to say a single pivot. This reminds me more of a Canyon Spectral really, and that's a good thing
  • - 6
flag yonibois (Oct 9, 2018 at 7:59) (Below Threshold)
 @spaceofades: the Commençal isn't a single pivot. Look closely, it's the same as this one but the link is hidden behind.
  • - 5
flag yonibois (Oct 9, 2018 at 7:59) (Below Threshold)
 @spaceofades: the Commençal isn't a single pivot. Look closely, it's the same as this one but the link is hidden behind.
  • + 4
 @yonibois: Technicaly it is a single pivot as it's a faux-bar design. The pivot isn' placed on the chain-stay but on the seat-stay.
  • + 2
 @vid1998: @spaceofades: The rear wheel does not follow a single pivot path, as the pivot is on the chainstay. If the pivot was on the seatstay, indeed it would be faux-bar, but this is not the case with the Cannondale.
  • + 1
 @g-monster: I was talking about Commencal's suspension design I know that Habit has a horst link.
  • + 8
 An undersprung fork will feel great over the small bumps and dive instead of support while braking, a frame size too large will cause you to not have enough weight over the front wheel, plus the seat tube is shorter on the small.

27 inch inseam? Sounds like the frame is too big and the suspension setup is incorrect. Not blaming her, we all know new bike/ suspension setup is not always easy or quick to find what works.
Instead of leaving it up to just anyone they should have a factory tech on hand to assist in optimal bike setup for the reviewer so the reader doesn't leave the review with more questions than answers.
  • + 9
 when the reviewer says the suspension was nice and plush, and then complains about fork dive as if it is governed by anything other than the fork being too soft.....
  • + 10
 Looks like an exact copy of the new Cannondale Habit.
  • + 1
 It is the new Cannondale Habit
  • + 8
 Digging the lack of writing all over frame, cannondale just at front top tube nice touch and that blue is right colour.
  • + 4
 So among other things, the reviewer complained about no weight on the front wheel, but stated she was often off the back of the bike to avoid initial fork dive with a plush setup. Add in the "unacceptable" length of the seattube, which prevented a short person from fully utilizing a long dropper. Check other bike companies. There's a reason why droppers correspond with frame size... 100mm, 125mm, 150mm, 175mm, S, M, L, XL, etc... unacceptable seems a little harsh. This article was a little strange, but I guess it was a first ride...
  • + 4
 And I forgot that the swingarm is alloy! They have different CF molds per size, but couldn't be bothered to do different jigs for forming and welding size specific rear triangles?

Even the tester discovered that the chainstay length is important: "Once I started climbing, I found it was a bit hard to keep weight on the front wheel. I found myself leaning far over the bars to make sure my front wheel didn’t lift."

Guess what would help that? Slightly longer chainstays! And that's on a Medium. The L and XL are going to be a huge pain to climb steep stuff on!
  • + 3
 All that effort to stage the wheels just perfect for the cover shot, logos lined up, rolled to the perfect position to be same/same on both tires, mid range on the cassette for aesthetic derailleur position.... and someone forgot to put a valve cap on. Oops!
  • + 4
 Even worse, two different valves!
  • + 1
 @simoncoopmans: saw that after as well..
  • + 6
 5'7", 27" inseam, and complains about not utilizing full extension of a long dropper? Lol hmmm...
  • + 3
 I am 5'4.5" and the size small looks perfect for me. I run my saddle at 66.5cm, so I am pretty sure I could run a 150 dropper by most manufacturers. I like this bike a lot.
  • + 3
 'There are plenty of medium-sized bikes out there with shorter seat tubes, so there’s no excuse for this'

Rather than citing this as a negative, I'd suggest this bike simply didn't fit the tester well. At the other end of this statement, the continuing trend for lower seat tubes means that, for me at 1.97m tall (about 6'6ish), most XL and XXL bikes now have seat tubes that are too short, even with a 170-200mm dropper. Doesn't mean they're bad bikes though.
  • + 3
 Very surprising they're talking up size-specific anything, but continue to have the same size chainstays on all sizes! Perhaps the big folks feel the pedalling effects because they're automatically more over the back tire and weighting the rear suspension more, and the small folks feel scared braking because they're automatically over the front more and that much closer to OTB.

Medium reach is 430, very close to the 435 chainstay, so riders on M frames should feel well centered.
XL reach is 490, about 2 inches longer than the Medium reach and the chainstay, for automatic backseat riding relative to the Med.
Meanwhile, XS reach is only 366, about 2.5inches (!) shorter than the medium reach and the chainstays! Riders on the XS are going to feel like they're going OTB much easier than a rider on the Med.

Norco is one of the only companies doing actual size specific geometry (and geo is more than just head & seat angles and reach & stack), with different length chainstays to match the different reaches, and they're made in Canada, both of which are reasons they're high on my list of next rides.
  • + 2
 Worked in a shop that sold Norco. Having seen their manufacture quality, I'd never buy one. I can't count the number of times we had to call them because a brake mount was welded on slightly off angle. Carbon rear ends seemed to be the next issue. Their DH rig seemed pretty reliable, but the Sight and Range had problems. --I agree with you though, their sizing/geo reasoning is spot on.
  • + 3
 Looks like my Jeffsy, my buddies’ Hightower, that new polygon that just came out, and a canyon. They all seem to be great bikes.

Is Mark Weir still with Cannondale? Would love to see him crush a field on this bike. I would als like to ride it.
  • + 3
 Wow... so much hate on this bike. I know Cannondale has been all over the place with their stuff for 20 yrs now (remember their dirtbike and ATV?) & they've been innovators and have contributed a lot to the evolution of this sport. I remember how badly I wanted a super v back in the day.

For me, this does look like a fun bike that mear mortals could afford to ride and enjoy. Isn't that what it's all about at the end of the day anyway?
  • + 2
 Have you seen the pricing? It is pretty high when compared to other brands. Apples to apples at the 5k range between this and a hightower, this still has an alloy rear end.
  • + 2
 You have to look at the back of the bike but if you want to see nice welds? These are nice welds!
Double pass oh yeah. Quality.
As for the bike over all. It's missing something.
Cannondale is notorious for doing things thiere way.This bike looks a tad too much like every other plastic bike in this catagory.
  • + 2
 This is the first Cannondale that I've liked in.. ever. For sure it conforms to the standard picture of the trail bike, but let's face it, they all look pretty damn good these days.. no weird shock or fork to boot. If it doesn't live up to the "Crack'n'fail" namesake they have a winner.
  • + 2
 What marketing genius thought that the best lauch video for a bike they should really be pushing as their “everyday, every ride bike” is all jibbing and groomed jump trails? I like cannondale bikes and have had 7 of them in the last 8 years, but I don’t see a 130mm 29er as the best choice for a jibbing bike. Their pricing also seems extreme for what you get.
  • + 2
 I was thinking this too but he certainly had no trouble sending some large lines in that video. Everyone else on a downhill bike just watching.
  • + 2
 @santacruz-ing: no doubt but I bet he could hit those same lines no problem on a 100mm 26 inch hardtail. I just think it doesn’t make sense to launch their first real trail bike and only highlight that it can jib. I don’t see the people buying this actually jibbing much.
  • + 4
 Like a lot of bike release vids, I wonder what their warranty department thinks of the launch video.... Gonna be hard to say stuff was abused when the promo material clearly shows it being ridden harder than they're hoping consumers will.
  • + 1
 @Austink: “their first real trail bike”!?!
Are you serious???
  • + 1
 @rokboy: first proper trail bike in a long time. The jeckyl and trigger have been more AM than trail and the previous habit and scalpel se have been just beefed up xc bikes.
  • + 4
 DAMN IT! Would love to ride this bike but cannondale never seems to offer their bike in a frame, only a full build. PLEASE MAKE JUST A FRAME FOR THE HABIT AND JEKYLL 29
  • + 5
 specialized nailed their bottle cage so much every one uses them. even their competitors
  • + 5
 Pretty impressed with Cannondale stepping up their game. First one in a while that I actually want to be seen on
  • + 5
 Sounds like balllztec to me.
  • + 0
 Came here to say this.
  • + 4
 Wow a bunch of those shots were right out of the last 50:01 edit. if that dont paint the picture, im not sure what does.
  • + 3
 straight up ! fabric , too...I guess the Rat will bring out the 160 mm version.
  • + 5
 That First Ride report could be the poorest writing I've ever seen on PB.
  • + 0
 that is more like a first look to me. Whit Cannondale bikes is always that way. Maybe they ride only 10 minutes
  • + 4
 I completely agree, it’s seems like a 12 year old wrote it for their homework.

“The one thing I noticed was that, under braking, I found that the front end would dive initially and so I found ....”
  • + 1
 Great looking bike! Too bad it has a bb30 bottom bracket Frown
After rebuilding the one on my bike I realized what a bodged system it is, plastic press in cups, thin bearings, plastic shims between the bearings and axle, preload adjuster and sometimes washers and wavy springs to remove slack. It's a shame they put all the great work in designing a frame with great geometry and suspension linkage then they put this bodged bodged system on it.
  • + 3
 You might be confusing BB30 with PF30. BB30 has no plastic cups: the metal bearing races are pressed directly into metal bearing bores in the frame. The rest is the same tho...
  • + 1
 It makes sense to change the suspension kinematic as the size of the frame changes. But why didn’t the rear centre also increase as the frame size goes up? Norco and a number of other manufacturers do this but not that many. It’s more costly to make different length swingarms of course but I think it would make better riding bikes for tall riders.
  • + 1
 Looks good. I will be purchasing the entry level Habit 6 when it becomes available. Considering I can hold my own on my low spec entry level Cannondale 29 hardtail (with a stunning 100mm of travel) I believe this bike will take my riding to the next level and the fun factor will be off the charts.
  • + 1
 Damn, that thing is only a pound lighter than my Firebird 29, and mine was weighed with 350 gr. pedals
Heck, my 2014 Enduro 29"(carbon) weighed 28lbs without pedals , and it had 160mm Pike forks and 155mm travel.
Why does this short-travel, carbon-framed, what...$6k(?) bike weigh so much [for what it is]?
  • + 1
 Cannondale marketing meeting:

"No one under 45 and outside of the XC market cares or respects our brand"
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"Let's get some of the 50:01 crew on board!"
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"Brilliant... but what about the Lefty and our weirdo propietary pull-shocks etc? They are panned at best"
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"F it... just do horst link, make it look like the YT Jeffsy"
  • + 3
 A Santa Cruz 5010 with a very slightly nicer build is $300 cheaper than this. Cannondale the boutique brand?
  • + 3
 Well Santa Cruz certainly aint no boutique brand. SC are part of the mighty pon group mass produced in asia along side all their other brands
  • + 1
 more of a tallboy
  • + 1
 not bad at all imo. but , they should have outfitted one with a full GX eagle drivetrain to compete with the treks that are spec'd with GX. NX may be alright but , it doesn't use a XD driver on the hub.
  • + 0
 Another bike with an unusably slack seat tube angle and a BS 'effective' STA. The worst part is that they know it too - take a look at the photos of the 9 bikes and how the dropper post is slammed in the frame on every one of them - do you ride with your saddle at the same height as your handlebars? Even with that, the nose of the saddle is still at or behind the crank centerline - what's going to happen when you get the seat up at a height where you can ride it? The saddle will be way too far back, that's what. I'll give them a D- on this effort.
  • + 6
 @NateForrest
I don’t think you should buy this bike.
  • + 1
 Love this! Congratulations Cannondale for the courage to sponsor the non common bike rider. This is what WE want to see more! Racing shouldn't be banned from the sponsorship plan but this should be included for sure!!
  • + 3
 It looks like the love child between a Capra and a 3rd gen Nomad... not bad Cannondale!
  • + 4
 it honestly looks a lot like a stumpjumper
  • + 1
 Looks cool, but man those buzzwords and custom naming convention. Didn't anyone ever tell bike manufacturers to keep it simple?
  • + 1
 first time I've ever seen someone look really good ripping and jumping a 29'er. First one I've even slightly thought about purchasing.
  • + 2
 Looks neat, Would be nice to see one more entry level model below the habit 6, but im a bottom feeder.
  • + 3
 So the seat tube is too long and too slack. 66deg actual is terrible.
  • + 3
 That's the headtube. Slight difference.
  • + 0
 @mtbikeaddict: Dimension E, Seat tube angle : 66.3deg
so if you have long legs, your ass is going to end up very rearwards very quickly.
  • + 2
 @Konda: you need to look at the effective seat tube angle! 74.5 is inline with most manufactures so before you start talking shit do your reading.....
  • + 2
 @sponge1990: no holding back there.
  • + 2
 @sponge1990: taken at which point? usually level with the stem.
So as I said, if you have long legs, you ass is going to end up very rearwards very quickly.
The fact that most "First look" articles mention the front wheel being light on climbs confirms this.
  • + 2
 @Konda: the whole point of having a seat tube with an angle of 74 ish (the same on mtb road everything except TRI bikes) is so that you can have correct leg extension and correct knee placement when your cranks are level. As you get taller you need to get you seat back further as surprisingly extra height comes from your upper and lower leg.
the reason the seat tube has an angle of 66.3 is becasue thats the angle of the seat post, however if you measure it from the center of the BB like you would measure your saddle height and saddle set back from, it measures as an EFFECTIVE SEAT TUBE ANGLE of 74.5.
if you look at pretty much any full sus mtb the seat tube is offset forward of the bb to allow for a shorter rear end.
i think this should answer any doubt you have on the issue of seat tube angles. if not perhaps this might help www.bbc.com/bitesize/guides/zx9qh39/revision/1
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  • + 1
 @sponge1990: I'm well aware of the difference between EFFECTIVE and ACTUAL seat angle.
However, the EFFECTIVE seat angle is taken with the seat at a specific height.
This vaires with manufaturer, so can be anywhere from the top of the head tube (ie level with stack) to the stem.
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Lets say it's taken from the top of the head tube as they have listed the stack height and we can run some numbers...
Size L has a stack of 625mm. and an assumed EFFECTIVE seat tube angle of 74.5 at this point.
Rider A has longer legs than 625mm, and runs his saddle approximately level with his bars. He runs 25mm rise bars and a 50mm stem with 10mm of spacers underneath. A Renthal Apex has a 40mm stack height, with 6 degrees of rise... Coupled with the 66deg head angle gives 61.7mm height ( www.pinkbike.com/photo/16447007 )
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So 25 + 10 + 61.7 = 96.7mm.
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Since this is at the actual seat angle, you end up with 2 triangles. one with an angle of 74.5deg and one with 66 deg. Combine the 2 of these and you end up with a larger triangle with an angle of 73.3deg.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/16447025
This is a pretty moderate example and it only gets worse with longer legs, hence my earlier comments.
The fact a light front end under climbing is mentioned on more than 1 first ride article across Bike media confirms it's too slack.
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So simmer down and pucker up.
  • + 1
 @Konda: An angle doesn't change as the length of the terminal side does. Scaling a photo, whether enlarging or shrinking, doesn't mess with the angles... or maybe I'm misinterpreting your comment
  • + 2
 @mtbikeaddict: the Effective angle is measured by drawing a line between the BB and saddle, with the saddle at a specific height and measuring the angle of that line from the ground.
The Actual angle is the angle the tube in the frame really is. Because the tube is offset forward (ie not in line with the BB) it creates an effective seat angle which is steeper than the frame tube.
With a slack Actual angle, the more you raise the saddle, the slacker the effective angle becomes.
This is because as the seat tube extends above the height where effective angle is measured from, it does so at 66 degrees because that's the angle the tube is.
So the longer your legs, the higher you need your saddle, the slacker the effective seat angle.
  • + 2
 @Konda: Ah... I was wondering if that's what you meant. Thanks.
  • + 3
 LAST WEEK LUIZ WAS A GT ENGINEER. I'M SO CONFUSED.
  • + 2
 Soooooo maaaannnyyyyy ccccooooommmmmeennnnttttssss !!!!!! Well done Cannondale.
  • + 3
 Look everyone! It has a pressfit BB!

#grabpopcorn
  • + 1
 People are too busy freaking out over it being a Cannondale to worry about PF.
  • + 2
 It's a yes for me, since the decals are not screaming. Subtle colors... Classy...
  • + 1
 Any one notice the first black and white shots appear to show either a carbon fiber rear or all the welds were completely ground and filled in?
  • + 1
 Top end frame is fully carbon, shown in those pictures
  • + 0
 Looks like a Spectral. At least it has a whole fork, Cannondale usually only gives you half of one. Can't imagine buying a bike with a 520mm seat tube though, that's ridiculous.
  • + 2
 Not to me. That’s actually something I'm looking for in a frame.
  • - 1
 30lbs for a Medium in Carbon is "meh", unless the author was riding (and weighing) an alloy model, which she doesn't specify. $4000 for the Habit 3 Carbon is pretty decent, though, and $2100 for the Habit 6 Alloy is pretty darn good (although nobody seems to challenge the Specialize Stumpjumper 29 ST Comp Alloy at $1700.) One that is frustrating is the fact that Cannondale doesn't tell us just how big of a 275+ tire this flip chip was designed around. If the flip chip allows the bike to be comfortably run with 275x2.6 tires but can also run 3" tires, that'd be useful information.
  • + 3
 WOW its a Specialized Hightower
  • + 1
 Nope, YT Spectral
  • + 2
 Kind of annoying that only the top of the line builds are getting the longer travel fork from so many bike brands.
  • - 1
 Cannondale: Used to be a great innovative company.

Now a Dorel shell that makes decent riding bikes but screws over customers and routinely refuses to honor their lifetime warranty. Simply by calling clear manufacturing defects and poor frame alignment "crash" related despite the bike being free of any crash related damages. But they will offer you crash replacement on your brand new bike that was poorly made... a new full bike at an amazing 20% off of MSRP (read basic retail)

I have owned 8+ Cannondale bikes 2002-2013 but I am done with them. I will never own any dorel bike again and cannot recommend them to anyone who is not a sponsored pro who will get unlimited free replacements.
  • + 3
 That is true. Cannondale refuses any issue...That lifetime warranty worth nothing, I ride Cannondale bikes for a while and I may be very lucky but never have a serious problem with the bike. My bike lost some paint(acid red color is very fragile in some bikes) around shock eyelet,Cannondale response was, OK send me back the frame to repaint it. That is 1 month my bike is out. The chance of Cannondale missing my bike in Netherlands is huge,my LBS got 2 guys with new bikes this year cos they lost the frames,both Acid Red color. Other brands take care of the customer,Cannondale not.
  • + 1
 I was looking at it on Instagram, without reading the text earlier today and could not decide if it was 2019 YT Jeffsy or Canyon Spectral. Nice bike anyways Smile
  • + 3
 nevermind the bike, I like his tracky bottoms
  • + 3
 Looks like a mini Ibis Ripmo.
  • - 1
 The big S wins again. They secretly wanted their patent to expire so that every unique company eventually gets sucked into the Horst link black hole where there will be no appeal to leave your Stumpjumper.
  • + 0
 Dunno, but 480mm seat tube on Large frame seams a bit excessive for moderate 460mm reach.. Especially considering Mondraker and alike...
  • + 1
 It sounds like a cool idea, but that pic of the asymmetrical rear end slightly bothers me.
  • + 2
 My Jekyll is like that and the stiffer rear wheel is very noticeable(jekyll is only 3mm,not 6 like this new bike). You can abuse the rear wheel very badly and still rides OK. If you broke some spokes the wheel is not so f*ck up. For a 29 I think it would be even more noticeable. This weekend a buddy on a new 29 Transition was friking out about a soft rear wheel when pushing really hard in Ainsa. I never own a bike with a rear end that robust and so predictable feel and the suspension design IMO is not the best in the market.
  • + 1
 A revolutionary suspension system: PROPORTIONAL RESPONSE Suspension System alias FSR, Horst Link...
Marketing power.
  • + 2
 I liked it better when it was called the Hightower LT
  • + 2
 Looks good to me, that's the first hurdle out the way...
  • + 2
 No Dyad, or Lefty, or something unique? That's not very Cannondale-like.
  • + 2
 If it doesn't have a lefty is it even a cannondale???
  • + 2
 First Cannondale not beaten with the ugly stick. Novel thinking.
  • + 1
 Geometry now added to the database to compare...
geometrygeeks.bike/bike/cannondale-habit-2019
  • + 2
 First good looking Cannondale for years in my opinion.
  • + 3
 Looks like a specialized
  • + 2
 Looks like a Specialised. And a YT Jeffsy.
  • + 2
 “Droppers across the board”
Except the two models without droppers
  • - 1
 I hope it rides better than the launch video, That was so dull, the kid has skills, but riding groomed jumps is such a tiny part of what mountain biking is about. Especially for this style of bike
  • + 1
 Huh, this is very Process 134 -esque. The linkage is eerily similar aside from this being Horst Link.
  • + 2
 please stop with the asymmetric rear dishing. pleasse.
  • + 2
 A Cannondale that doesn't look like it rides the short bus?!
  • + 2
 Male or female, is every reviewer 160lbs, + or - 2 inches from 5'9"?
  • + 1
 Sponsored rat to try to lose the crack and fail identity we all know oh so well (at least if ya work in a shop).
  • + 1
 Looks like a YT Jeffsy. ... oops, wait, I mean looks like a Specialized FSR.
  • + 0
 Looks a lot like a YT Jeffsy and Canyon Torque! I guess everyone is moving away from the “looks like a session” design lol
  • + 2
 Introducing the new Cannondale Stumpjumper
  • + 2
 what? no hamster jokes? habit trail/habitrail...c'mon people!
  • + 0
 We lost some good habits...
  • + 1
 Rat on a 29 makes me a sad panda
  • + 1
 why?
  • + 1
 hightower?
  • + 1
 first bike I would actually ride from Cannondale
  • + 1
 Racist cable routing. Shame.
  • + 1
 Its a Special Cruz HighJumper
  • + 1
 Wait, what happened to superb lefty??
  • + 1
 Looks like a mix between a Jeffsy and a GT Sensor.
  • + 0
 i like how at 1:09 it comes out that cannondale has no idea, and they are grabbing for straws at this point.
  • - 3
 "The women’s models come in XS, Small and Medium, while the rest of the models come in Small through XL. The women's models have women’s saddles, shorter crank lengths, and smaller diameter grips."


So, Cannondale is short changing tall women and short men (no L/XL for women, no XS for men)....
  • + 10
 The extra small will be renamed the Cannondale Hobbit.
  • + 1
 Thought it looks like a Canyon/Polygon/Jeffsy/Stumpy
  • + 1
 Back to the roots cannondale? was the cut so bad?
  • + 2
 Good Looking Bike
  • + 1
 It looks like... oh wait, nothing!
  • + 1
 I'm cracking up here.
  • + 1
 The original dentist brand.
  • + 1
 so no leftys? hwell then.
  • + 1
 its all the same. take your pick
  • + 1
 wooooooow! it looks like......every other bike out there!!!!
  • + 0
 Looks like an identical 4 bar linkage from the Jeffsy/Stumpjumper/Enduro very original
  • + 1
 looks like my salsa horsethief 2014 -loved it and hated it
  • + 1
 prolly sent you the 2 cause cannondale can't get the new xtr either!
  • + 1
 Available at your local monastery. Whoopi would ride it!
  • + 1
 Specialized Bronson?
  • + 1
 old stumpy?
  • + 1
 cannondale jeffsy
  • + 0
 Not in my price range. Yet. (currently aiming for ~$1500 second hand)
  • + 18
 best stop reading new bike reviews then mate!
  • + 0
 I'm sure you guys will blame trump for this too!!
  • + 1
 CANYON-DALE
  • + 0
 so Cannondale can actually look good without a lefty :-D
  • + 0
 Probably made a million times, but looks like a jeffsy
  • + 0
 seat tube angle effective 74.5
  • + 0
 Hahahaha, yeeees. Another one goes Specialized style.
  • + 0
 What's new? 29", FSR, Boost 15x110mm & 12x148... Stop, what's new?
  • + 0
 Kind of miss the lefty now it's gone
  • + 0
 wow, yt tues and canyon torque fell in love and made a baby!
  • - 2
 cannondale carbon is the weakest frames i have ever rode. Their frames break quite easy. This is my experience.
  • + 1
 You've got to be getting lemons. I'm a 245 pound gorilla shaped man and I have road cannondales almost exclusively for a long time and have never had any of their aluminum or carbon frames crack on me.
  • + 0
 Looks like a YT
  • - 2
 Cool Hightower.
  • - 2
 8k and you get a fox34? Cannondale missing the mark yet again.
  • + 4
 the highest end fox 34... didnt hold him back in the video did it? i dont know why everyone thinks theyre so good they need a fox 36...
  • + 3
 @santacruz-ing: didn't hold him back cause it wasn't in the video...
  • + 0
 @underhawk: hm what fork is it
  • + 0
 @santacruz-ing: they talk about how they vary frame thickness for the XL frames to make them stronger but don’t give you a stronger fork for a frame that 200+ lb. people will be on. Counter-intuitive. Also most guys in the video not on a 34.
  • - 1
 Keep downvoting all you twinky boys. Bunch of short lads that weigh 160 lbs
  • + 4
 @stonant: You're the one missing the point. This isn't an enduro bruiser. The 34 is perfect, and not all tall people are built like refrigerators. I'm 6'3+ and closer to that 160lbs than you'd think.
  • + 1
 @mtbaddict ok stick figure man, you’re missing the point. I didn’t say more travel, I said bigger stanchions for bigger people
  • + 3
 @stonant: Still missing the point. I didn't say more travel either. But for short travel, slightly smaller stanchions work fine. If it were 160mm or so? 36 all day. Otherwise, why aren't there 100mm 40's?
  • + 0
 @mtbikeaddict: 140 is 'short travel'? Are you going to arbitrarily say that at 150 you are granted permission to use a larger stanchion? What type of equation/relation are you implying? 140=34, 150=35, 160=36? This is absurd. Are you the authoritative figure on what is short travel, and what requires a thicker stanchion? 100mm 40 stanchions is hyperbole. Guys on DJ forks use anywhere from 34-36 sized stanchions depending on size, weight, and how big they go. This is a much better indicator of short travel needing at least 34 if you're going to be sending it, and up to a 36 if you're sending it big or are a heavier. A SC Hightower is a comparable bike, and guess what? They DO NOT SPEC IT WITH A 34!
  • + 0
 @stonant: lol Wow, triggered much? Take a breather buddy. I'm not insinuating I'm some authority... I'm certainly not super massive myself. I'm just noting that virtually every review that I've read that has referenced the 34 vs 36 has agreed that the 34 is underrated, and awesome for trail-to-(arguably lighter)-all-mountain, and the 36 is only really NECESSARY for some combination of long travel, hard riding, and heavy weight. If you feel you need it, great, get a 36. It was Cannondale's choice to spec a 34, and I think for a trail bike that will be fine for the majority of the target audience.
  • - 1
 Looks like a Jeffsy
  • + 1
 It looks almost identical same linkage?
Chad
  • - 1
 Cool Canyon Spectral
  • - 3
 Why are there so many Jeffsy look alikes now? Looks like a Jeffsy is the new looks like a session now I guess.
  • + 5
 No no. Jeffsy is Stumpjumper look alike.
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