Are You Going Electric? - Pinkbike Poll

 I heard your mum switched over to electric a whhhile ago *brrrrrrrrrrrr*...

 I've only just gone 1x10..... we'll be on hover bikes by the time I'm on Di2...

 Where's the "Its cool but not for me" option? I understand for general trail and XC duties it would be great, and if I rode less aggressively I might try it, however it just isn't practical for downhill applications considering cassette sizing and the derailleurs being expensive and vulnerable.

 I'm a huge fan of don't care either way, I'll buy whatever is good when I need the parts, cables/batteries inconsequential

 For me, bike is a symbol of pure mechanic simplicity and freedom. I don't want to lose its spirit and beauty. I'm not gonna get into electric...

 It would be awesome to see more bikes with a gearbox instead of a deruiller. Then electric shifting would be more useful.

 It adds a complexity to my bike I don't really want. When I finish a ride a wash it down and put it in the shed. Recharging it isn't going to be the end of the world but if I forget to do it then it could ruin a perfectly good ride. I'm also concerned about long term durability. Little electric motors attached to a derailleur that's getting knocked about on my bike are going to be put through some pretty extreme forces. Cables are not causing me any real issues and I have put hundreds of thousands of kilometres on cable equipped mountainbikes over the years. I would much rather the investment went to gearboxes and other solutions rather than incremental changes for the sake of getting something new onto the market more regularly.

 I'm sitting on the fence on this one. As it currently stands I will not be upgrading to an electronic mech but do see the potential for gearboxes.

 Next up: anti-matter rear derailleur. We will NOT make a gearbox.

 Electronic = more problems !

 Option 7 Waiting for when it's in a gearbox

 This survey paired with the comments is very revealing about pinkbike in general - as it stands the (small) majority are positive regarding electronic shifting yet the comments are massively negative. Those negative comments are based mainly on ignorance of the product - how you could go 6 months on a charge and then forget to charge it despite blinking warning lights for probably a month resulting in it running out is beyond me. Yet still we have people saying they wouldn't touch it with a barge pole because it could run out on ride...

Saying that I do love the tin foil hat, anti-progress comments on here, its why I'm here...

 Wait a minute.. slow down bike industry.
gonna race my 26" 10 speed this weekend. I still have to go 1.5" steerer, then tapered steerer, then 15mm axle, then 29", then 11 speed, then 27.5 then fat bike then plus bike.

 My 2 cents I find there to be something fundamentally wrong with plugging my bike into the socket in order for me to go ride. Just jars with what mountain biking is for me. Just me, the bike and the outdoors. Hell, I ride to escape technology not to use it...

 No. I'll stick to my good old fashioned mechanical stuff please. Bikes are going the same way as cars and i don't like that.

 It's all fun and games until the government sues Apple to find out my poor shifting patterns.

 It is a cool concept, but I really don't see the benefit in it for me. especially since it is a closed system and you, For example, can't mix DI2 class components freely.

 None of the above. I'm waiting for a bullet proof gearbox. If it happens to be electric so be it. I feel that is the future, maintenance free, smooth belt or chain line, better rock clearance. DAMN! Sign me up!

 I make my living in tech and part of what I love about bikes is the mechanical elegance. I like wrenching almost as much as riding. I like being able to disassemble and reassemble a trigger shifter (even if I hope I never have to do it again) to fix it. I'm wary of batteries to power anything but lights, not because I'm a luddite, though because I enjoy being able to work on and repair my bike, and ride to get away from operating computers...

 What happens when moisture gets in the screen, mists up and you can't see the information in front of you? You shouldn't need to be told what gear you are in, you should just know. I guess knowing the battery life is important but at the end of the day, if your going to run out of battery on a ride, you're going to run out no matter if you know or not. Mechanical FTW!

 I've tried Di2 & was fully prepared to hate it, as I hate most electrical items in life. After actually riding it, its awesome. The finger effort is minimal more important than you think if you're logging 9hr xc rides like me> & it shifts under any pedalling torque with total precision.
However I still wont buy it, its still really expensive, the vast majority of bikes arent designed to cleanly & securely store the battery & route the cables. But most important for me, its not user bodge/repairable in the wilderness, where I dont want to chance being stuck in a single gear, miles from home.

 Nah, I'm sure it's lovely, but my mechanical XT M8000 system works so beautifully I don't feel the need to spunk a fortune (even half the fortune it was before) on an electric set-up and gears yeah you need 'em - but they're not really very exciting - I've never come home saying "oh my shifting today was awesome".

Another thing, if/when they go wrong I've always been able to MacGyver up something to carry on, or at least limp it home, but electronics, they work, or they don't, and there will be that one time I have to say to my mates "sorry lads, can't make it today, I forgot to charge my gears".

 I've put 3000km on Di2 Ultegra 10spd with no issue. The front derailleur auto trim feature is great. Everyone once in a while I'll throw the battery on the charger just to be sure. The most common issue I have is forgetting the battery on the charger.

 To be completely honest, electronic stuff and wireless components will be the way forward. As of now, will I go out and buy di2 or that magura dropper? No. But when I next get a bike, or a seatpost, or a drivetrain, maybe. If long term reviews can prove durability and this is stuff that can operate for more then a few hours at a time, not at some terrible run time before needing charging, I'll switch over eventually.

 The roadie reviews of it not working well in cold weather due to the battery have put me off. Being stuck in a single gear miles from home in cr*p cold weather isn't appealing. I'm waiting for the the internal gearboxes to refine and come down in price!

 I don't think electric is a bad idea. My biggest reservationis with damaging the mech, as I have put a few derailers in the grave in my day. I hate shelling out for a new one and the idea of a higher monetary penalty really puts me off. That being said, I think this argument is like talking about auto vs. manual transmissions. Most people are going to take auto because of it's consistency and ease of use, not to mention that it will always shift faster and cleaner when operating correctly. But some of us still love the tactile sense of physically shifting the car - it feels more engaging and as a result makes the experience more satisfying. Di2 is amazing and great at what it does, but I don't know if I prefer it over the hard ka-chunk of a positive Sram shift, or if I ever will.

 Di2 = perfect shifts every time, no matter how much pressure your putting on the pedals. no dropped chain, no broken chains.

Di2 = equal pressure applied to the shifter every time. no missed-shifts, no cable stretch. When your on epic 4 hour rides, you thumbs don't go numb.

 I already have to check tire pressure, shock pressure, and fork pressure before every ride. The last thing I want is to have to make sure my bike is charged. I can't really see any significant advantage by going electric, only negatives.

 No option that says "im still waiting for the price to drop further"....


We all know prices will go down a lot since several companies such as Microsoft and some other ones stepped into the electric shifting game, and they will be competing by selling them at low price.

 Would be rad if you could turn the pedals and charge the battery. Just have a training/charging day every 3 months, press a button, adds a little more resistance, but juices up the battery. Also excellent in dead battery scenarios.

 Im an old man...and I think the opening comments are hilarious. I scroll down to read the funny sarcasm more than the sober inputs. Trust me folks....My professional life is nothing but serious crap 24/7.........life is too short not to be goofy. Its part of the essence of mt biking and being a mt biker....to be goofy, play and have a good time. Cheerio.

 I went to Di2 on my enduro bike and it was outstanding.

I am going with the Magua Vyron and Di2 combo this time on my hard tail build.

Most of the Di2 cables will be internal, and the battery in the seatpost tube.

The shifting of a Di2 is better than XX1 and is simple to work on/adjust.

 Check out the mobile pictures i just posted on a Kingdom Hex and see how it can be done mostly internally. The rear mech cable run from the BB into the chainstay and came out the back. Battery and Junction B is inside the frame and can be charged from the display unit. Never need to fuss with it again. But If I want it out, I can pull it out easily.

 New di2 looks great and I have talked to firsthand users that say it works brilliantly. Still not in my budget range. I'm sure there is still room for the price to come down more. I can wait. I have a new XT M8000 drivetrain and a toolbox full of housing and cables. Patience will pay off as there will be adjustment in price now that drive trains have entered the electronic tech realm. You can count on improvement, innovation, better efficiency, and lower prices every 6 months like my gps watch.

 Does anyone know how much the battery, display and extra plus size derailleurs weigh compared to mechanical and cables?
Seems like there are a lot of new ways to make our bikes heavier between dropper post, wider rims, bigger wheels, heavier + size tires. Thanks goodness I can't afford every new idea.

 So I have had XTR di2 for a while now, I run 1x11 using the sram 10-42t cassette and I love it, main advantages are it shifts perfect every time no matter what, even when it's thick in mud it still shift effortlessly, there's quite a few little details like the fact you can't just hold the shifter to shift multiple gear and the second you let off it stops in that gear. It would be good on the DH bike but I wouldn't have it until a rear mech is cheap enough and the advantage is minimal, in all honesty the advantage is minimal on any bike, but I just love the fact it's pretty much fit and forget other than a charge once a month or so.

 Technophobia (from Greek τέχνη technē, "art, skill, craft"[1] and φόβος phobos, "fear"[2]) is the fear or dislike of advanced technology or complex devices, especially computers.[3] Although there are numerous interpretations of technophobia, they seem to become more complex as technology continues to evolve. The term is generally used in the sense of an irrational fear, but others contend fears are justified. It is related to cyberphobia and is the opposite of technophilia. Dr. Larry Rosen, research psychologist, computer educator, and professor at the California State University suggests that there are three dominant subcategories of technophobes- the "uncomfortable users", the "cognitive computerphobes", and "anxious computerphobes".[4] First receiving widespread notice during the Industrial Revolution, technophobia has been observed to affect various societies and communities throughout the world. This has caused some groups to take stances against some modern technological developments in order to preserve their ideologies. In some of these cases, the new technologies conflict with established beliefs, such as the personal values of simplicity and modest lifestyles. A number of examples of technophobic ideas can be found in multiple forms of art, ranging from literary works such as Frankenstein to films like Metropolis. Many of these works portray the darker side of technology as perceived by the technophobic. As technologies become increasingly complex and difficult to understand, people are more likely to harbor anxieties relating to their use of modern technologies.

 I'm all for change especially if it leads to better products with longer lifespan. Cables stretch, get muddy, housing breaks and can tangle you up when your flung off your bike. I see the benefits and LED displays are awesome...

 Where is the button "I don't know and I don't care to figure out yet as what I have now is doing just fine. I'll figure out by the time my current system is dead and I'm in the market for a replacement"? I'd click that.

 I am waiting for Sram's e-tap version of 1x drivetrains, than I will wait for the price drop. A wireless shifter and a derailleur with changable battery would be so simple and light. Di2 is still too complicated for me.

 I have di2 on my road bike (yeh, I Tarmac brah...) and it's awesome. It's easier to change gear so I change gear more often which means I get tired less quick.

It'll be better when it's wireless, and it will be awesome on my next mountain bike. Oh, and auto-shift already exists for road bikes, it's still quite new, gd reviews though.

 I don't know, it seems pretty intense. Personally, unless I'm riding up a mountain, or a legitimate hill, I've always been one to keep my slopestyle bike in a single relatively hard gear. I just added gears back to enable mountain riding from the previous single speed arrangement. Back in the day we'd always ride steep hills that you could only push your bike up anyways, or we'd mess around on streets or ramps, basically all locations where chain slap wasn't adventageous, and pedalling hard uphill was pretty well negated.

 waiting for bluetooth dropper and suspension, shifting is no so critical for me, however I assume the are lots of benefits going wirelessly, also it would be awesome to have recuperation process implemented

 That's a bit like asking what do you prefer 26" or 27.5" a couple of years ago. The answer is it don't effing matter, in a few years, if you want top to mid tier equipment from the big manufacturers you WILL be buying electric, like it or not.

 I have tried XTR D12 and it was lovely, shifted almost telepathically. Too expensive for me but impressive none the less.

I like my main bike to be XT level on the drivetrain so if that means going Di2 next time I buy a full build then that's fine by me. As long as there is the option of mechanical or electric aftermarket I'm fine with that too. As long as it fits on/in the frame without issues then it doesn't really bother me. If the downside of having to charge a battery every 6 months or so is less than the problem of snapping a gear cable mid-ride every now and then (average 2 a year) I'll be happy.

 I have no problems with a 30T chain ring, 11-36 cassette, and a derailleur. It ain't broke. The problem with mountain bike gears is the derailleur, not the cable.

 Whatever anyone is going to say, and it's true, you have to decide if you want it or not. But Di2 works perfectly in any condition. Sure Trailside maintenance is not possible, but on the other hand there's a lot less that can go wrong. The chances that the syshem will fail are very low. And for everybody else who i continuing to hate, there will always be mechanical versions of the groupsets, no worries. Be easy and give it a try, not everything new sucks.

 I'm just waiting for the price to drop...

So I'll probably be "jumping in" long after they've become standard on most high end bikes, and I can get it second hand, or on a smoking deal from CRC (or whatever the new hot spot is at that time).

Hell I just got a 10 speed cassette last year, to give an idea of how "behind" I am.

 Id rather work on my bike. tune deraillers, change cables..than to charge my shifter batteries like a smart phone. My bike is my freedom and should be super dependable. Id sacrifice "precise" shifting of the claimed Di2 any day to just have a fun, no bullcrap ride!

 Some of these comments are hilarious. They remind me of the "You ain't gonna put that git dern fuel infection on my ve-hic-le" There will be growing pains at some point, sure. Electronics aren't the boogeyman they were in the 80's.

 Where is the "I like the idea, but it is STILL to expensive for me to adopt yet" option?

I can't have a rear mech that costs that much hanging off the back of my bike as attempt to weave through, over and around the rocks.

 I had RockShox's Ei System on my Lapierre Spicy before. I had to change the system 3 times. Ended up replacing the shock. It was a nightmare....a costly one that is. Wonder if this is more reliable but I guess I'll be more cautious about electrical stuff on my bike in the future.

 I'm going to switch, & here's my reason why: multishifting. as we've crammed more & more gears in the back of the bike, we've made it so that you have to cross more gears to get a big change, when hitting the end of a downhill, or the end of an uphill. Front derailleurs suck, & I'm glad they're gone, but one thing I do miss is the ability to hit one button to go from a fast descending gear to a climbing gear, especially in Arizona where you often hit washes that have steep chutes followed by steep climbs. It was already noticeable in 10 speed, the two gear faster jump you get on a shimano shifter vs a SRAM is really noticeable at the top of a hill when trying to get up to speed.

I've tested Di2 XTR, & being able to hold the button down for multiple changes blows every other option away. it's fast, & easy to do in the heat of the moment. with any luck, at retail the derailleur will be $100 or less, but even if it's $150, I think I'll be buying it.

 I have DI2 on my cross bike. People saying it needs charging all the time are mistaken. I bought the bike in September and have charged it once and it was still showing green at the time. The batteries really do hold enough charge for many many rides. In that same time I would probably have had to change the gear cables at least once. More often than not when people say "it is too complex" they are really saying "i don't how it works and am afraid of it" like I read about hydraulic brakes versus some POS mechanical. Really they just have never thought about it. An Avid BB7 has a lot of parts for example compared to a hydraulic brake that has two moving parts. Two.

I will say that the electric does not shift much better than mechanical as I also have a Dura Ace equipped road bike. The difference is more in the amount of finger movement needed to actuate a shift. I am fully capable of mis-shifting either system. Some have claimed that because electric works perfectly every time that they shift more often. Not me. I have always shifted often. One thing about electric though, once you click it shifts perfectly. And.Never. Misses. And the front derailleur automatically trims to avoid chain rub. And set up is a breeze. A monkey can do it.

Another thing to consider is full suspension bikes and the sometimes torturous cable routing required that can lead to a heavy shift feel. never an issue for electric.

I am not going to ditch the current mechanical setup for electric though. Once it is tired and worn though I will consider it.

 I will give Di a shot when it cheaper, if it ever make me walk 10 miles back to the car, I'll switch back to xtr without hesitation. I ride MTB for decades, the mechanical drive train system never fail to the point that I cannot b repaired on the trail or having any temperature issues.

 I'm generally not an early adapter, I'm gonna let you all go first, and then when I hear the product offers superior performance and is generally reliable, that's when I'll jump on the bandwagon.

 The older and fatter I get . I am only looking for larger rear cassette cogs and smaller front CR's for my 1X. I am pretty sure I may need something with an electric motor if this situation keeps progressing.

 I enjoy the simplicity of a cable. Electric sounds cool and who doesn't like running the newest and fanciest gear, but I'm going to have to pass. I don't need to worry about having my batteries charged up before each ride and I don't need to worry that the system will fail while I'm a hundred miles into the forest!!!

 The bike has always been a beautiful invention as in itself it is a self sustaining machine. Adding electronics and batteries to it makes it less I feel. Not to mention the hugely negative environmental impact that batteries cause. It is inevitable that electronic gears and power assisted bikes will become more and more mainstream, but I think it is a shame.

 I have had an ingenious idea that may interest the drivetrain companies. Gearing is all based around the minimum cadence we are willing to push before the motion becomes too inefficient to be reasonable, and we then change gear; the opposite is true for changing up a gear. Why then, do the manufacturers not set their electronic groupsets to allow the rider to preset a rough cadence window whereby once this is exceeded in either end of the tolerance, the groups changes gear automatically? Maybe have a trip-out feature for the odd occasion where excess torque is being applied to prevent changing under load

 I love shimano but di2 is not for me. I don't want to charge my bike before I can ride it or have that thought of it dieing on me mid ride. Sometimes I go on last minute rides can't do that if I need to charge my bike.

 I don't see the point in swapping cables for wires, especially when I have to find somewhere to stash the battery. I like the idea of electronic shifting, but I'll wait till it's wireless.

 Why do some people fight progress? If there is a better way to shift, I am all for it. IGHs rock, but are heavy.

First is Di2 with wires, then SRAM is going wireless, then Shimano will have to go wireless, and we will all be able to enjoy the progress.

If you are worried about gear range, you can go 11-50 with Shimano right now. If you want two more usable gears, use the front mech with two rings and it will do the shifting for you. It is simply amazing and nearly faultless.

 I have posted a large amount of information, pictures, bikes and videos relating to Di2 on mountain bikes.

Check it out in the Forums "Di2 Information". A lot of people seemed to be misinformed or lacking basic knowledge of how it works and why it is superior to conventional cable operated systems.

 I want to be the only power source required to ride my bike. Electric gears is too close to electric bike for me. I have a motorbike licence, if I wanted to ride something with a power source I would.

 If it finds it's way into the mainstream I'd probably end up with electronic shifting eventually, but I'm in no rush.

 I'll go straight electronic for my next bike but will keep my old one for some reason.
But there is nothing wrong with the cable for deraileurs as they wont rip of most of the time, but if here is any offer for electronic brakes i'll jump head first as no one wants a ripped hydraulic hose in middle of nowhere, but hey which one is better: ripped hose or empty battery, off course we can charge batteries with the old school tire chargers or just a power bank.
Electronic all my bike except the pedaling power, ill leave that for my older me.

 When it's wireless and as cheap as SLX 10x is now then I will probably get it when an old derailleur wears out. But I am a cheapskate.

 I answered on the cable side, but come to think of it, if an XT Di2 pops up second hand and I can afford it, I can clearly imagine myself going for one Just the rear, of course, as I am a simple man

 I dont want to recharge by bike by any means. I even hate recharging night lights.

 Cables are the work of the devil, all this technology and engineering going into your bike and then you go and change gear by pushing on a clockwork gear shifter, which pulls a bit of wire inside a shit rubber tube, which then pulls a spring mechanism back and forth?

 I was out for a spin the other day with a lad who was riding one of Greg Callaghans cubes, batteries went and he only had 3rd. Feck that, ill change a cable every now and again!

 I think for me the reason for not switching is that I love to run SRAM 1x11 X1. Would love to be able to fit the Di2 to that but I prefer SRAM cassettes with the wider range, without an odd looking 42t,

 Electronic shifting?!? Pfft! What's next? Engines on bikes? What will you call it, a motorbike? Ridiculous.

 Electric shifting seems pretty awesome to me, and I agree there's a lot less angry trolls in the comments whining about it. In a couple years when I actually need a new group set this looks like a great option!

 I'm thinking the freeride guys who do tailwips and barspins will like electric shifting. no more cable stretch when you turn the bars all the way around! bring back 9 speed though.

 As soon as no charging is involved I will have no problem going to electronic shifting. I just don't want to charge my bike. If there was a solar panel on the display that could adequately power the device and store a descent amount of charge I would be all in.

 The bicycle is by definition a perfect machine..what the fuck you gotta start adding electric this and that do hickeys and what nots. That's a shit ton of razzamatazz and rigmarole I don't need thanks.

 I want internal cvt gearbox, auto shifting, simulated 13 speed, upgradable to 14 speed. And boost spacing. And integrates with google glasses, backwards compatible with iphone4.

 It's missing the option, of let's see. I'm interested but haven't seen enough yet to make decisions.

 For long distance (marathon) keep it simple and repairable.
I don't want more gadgets on the bike that could die and can't be repaired.

 Most negative comments are by those who have never tried it. I have and I will not go back to standard cables. Now, I do love my Rohloff...if they made that lighter and in Boost 148, I would be all over it. Shifts like a dream. They display lets you know when the battery is low, but that takes months. It is now in XT at a lower price point. I bet if many would just give it a shot, they would love it. Especially with a front mech. Then it goes from great to unreal.

 Its only gears, its not like strapping a motor to your bike. I dont know where the resistance comes from. if its good and reasonably priced people will buy it.

 I cannot wait. No more shitty cables, or tension issues. I love my Zee with a clutch, but hate how firm the lever action is to shift. Sign me up.

 less cables is good... imagine when the brakes will be without cables too ... FINALLY stem & handlebar will be able to live free ! a bike without cables, I vote yes !

 I'll be switching to electronic when it becomes wireless.

 consumerism 101

 I'm the who cares camp, I see most of you aren't. We did have the option of going Di2 on my sons Time Trail bike but chose to stick with Dura Ace as we didn't really see the advantage of hefting extra weight about for a millisecond saved although I'm sure at UCI level it will help. I'm very anal about maintaining the drive-train so the self indexing is pointless for me. By all means if you're a Luddite that doesn't have a clue what a limit screw is or want an easy low maintenance solution for your laziness spend away.

 I'm going gearbox

 I have plans for a Di2 E-bike

 This seems like its about a year too early to me. I mean XT Di2 isn't actually available to purchase yet, which means that MTB Di2 is essentially not available yet. That said, i'm not planning on buying in, however I know I will someday, and it's entirely possible that when i'm looking for upgrades next offseason, the mood could strike and I could end up with an electric drivetrain.

 The same people saying no are the same people who said carbon fiber wasn't strong enough for mountain bikes, air shocks didn't work, and tubeless wasn't reliable.

 I'd rather clicked this: "Waiting a couple of years until all the guinea pigs get the kinks out.

 Like I sais before...mtb will only be for doctors, dentists, & lawyers. Like what happened to hunting & fishing gear.

 I'm holding out for SRAM's version. Their road version is all wireless and really elegant. I'll definitely be in line for some XO1 eTap goodness when it's released.

 It would be nice to display what tooth cog you're in rather than display what gear you're in. You'd have to program it, but teeth means more to me than just what gear.

 WOW if you want to fix that better carry a soldering gun and some spare electric wire But is it solar EMP proof and water resistant.

 My thumb never runs out of batteries. Modern shifters are pretty sweet, even if the electric stuff is "perfect" all of the time.

 That is damn cheap for electric shifting IMO. However not sure what I would want, although I'd love to try it out on a demo bike one day!

 i just love the idea I can fix my bike without any major knowledge in technology. I don't want to call an IT guy to fix my bike.

 no i don't believe in all this di2 crap i think thay should stick with what works it costs too much and is more prone for problems

 Cables will go the way of carburetors. And only mechs with missing front teeth will know how to adjust them.

 Where's the "I would love to go electric but it's still too expensive for me" button on the poll??

 I'd love to go electronic, but need to see more reviews on issues/relibility in the long term. And will wait for SLX Di2

 I'd be surprised if the next saint stuff isn't di2. I can't wait for the xt stuff.

 For me this is some kind of cheating. Bike idea is that this is mechanical machine not electrical even if it is just about electrical shifting.

 Basically the first 2 options are "Yes" and the next 4 are "no". "No" is winning.

 Will it work with a gearbox?

 I hope bike brands build in battery areas woth easy quick access rather then a pain to fit and swap.

 We need market research to sell to Shimano, hurry up and click damnit

 Just a question of time when SRAM and Shimano will fit the lower gruppos with their electronic systems. I'm fine with it !

 Nope, I have a gear box on my current bike not going back to derailleurs anytime soon.

 I'm seriously considering going electric as buying a new SRAM drivetrain is so expensive compared to Shimano's top of the range.

 Absolutely never it's a money grab for a product that cost no more to make than a cable setup.

 if its lighter than the cable one, and the battery last long.. i might considering it..

 So I can add cost and a timed failure to my drive train! where do I sign up?

 Still running a 1x9 xo. Waiting to go to a 1x11 cable setup before anything else

 mine keeps flashing 12:00A.M.... is there a Shimano Bar somewhere..? please advise.

 I'm jumping in on the 1x36 Di2 mech with my 173.2 mm fork and the 700 mm dropper

 I'd buy DI2 if there was no such thing as 1x11. Shifting is already so easy and maintenance free.

 I'm all for evolution of technology.. However this better not become the new "standard".

 If it still drops 200 I can afford it maybe. Or maybe I can wait till they start beeing around as used ones

 Don't be fuc""@@ stupid!!

 When they make it for dh or even a 10 speed short cage then I will. Not going to buy an enduro bike for a lonnng ways off.

 If someone else foots the bill every time I crash and damage my derailleur, I'll maybe consider it.

 If I had the money it would either be a pinion gearbox or Acros hydraulic shifting

 those mechs are bloomin expensive for items that will probably get ripped off by a lone rock

 Nice but a bit heavy , I wouldn't run it on my nomad for fear of smashing it and it's a bit portly for a xc bike

 None of these answers reflect my thoughts. I'll go electronic when it's wireless... and when I need a new drivetrain.

 hell no...

 S5.5c with Di2 id in my sights..

 It's ok for those who rides XC but i ride DH no points

 I can pretty much rig my cable derailleur to get me home, Di2 do I have to call the geek squad to come out to fix it?

 its unnecessary but inevitable

 Waiting for wireless 1x with decent gear range!

 Watch out someone don't hack that stuff, and is it solar emp proof.

 Yes but only when its wireless and says SRAM on it. Long live the LBS.

 I just made my own di2 10 speed xtr

 Internal hub shifting where are you??....battery or not.

 Not until SRAM makes a wireless Grip Shifter. And no,I'm not joking.

 So when is the saint di2 group coming out?

 No thanks

 No need for an armchair expert pretentious load of waffle answer ... it's a No !

 Lots of money for slow shifting.

 The neexy thing would be electric cable and chanless drive terrain..lol

 looks like my cell phone after 1 call

 Oh Pinkbike. Your polls have an amusingly unscientific charm.

 I would actually like more info. How even do you adjust it?

 Di2 Pinion should be nice!

 Looks awesome!
I wonder how good it is?
But, my current set up is A-Ok!

 My Shimano airlines are still holding up.

 Wheres the "Hell nah" button

 Exactly

 I feel like a lot of these answers overlap.

 Still waiting for the price to drop honestly...

 Yeah I'm jumping in but the price has still to get lower than that.

 maybe if the added this to their saint lineup id consider it

 I want a wireless version.

 If the price continues to decline, I would consider it.