Every spring there is an influx of riders keen to get into mountain biking, and at Pinkbike and Outside, we know that these newcomers are often overwhelmed with information and opinions. So, we’re launching a seven-part series called MTB Explained, where we help new riders navigate some of the basics of our sport. If you’re new, welcome to the best damn sport in the world, and if you’re a long-time rider let’s welcome these folks to the club.E-bikes have evolved rapidly over the last few years, morphing from ungainly (and in many cases unsightly) contraptions into much more refined electric machines. There's still plenty of room for improvement, but it does seem like many of the initial issues, things like limited battery capacity, awkward controls, and odd geometry, have been figured out.
E-bikes remain a contentious topic, especially in North America, but I'm not going to delve too deeply into that here. The purpose of this guide is to explain the difference between the various options on the market, and hopefully make it easier to decide which one makes the most sense for your riding style.
Of course, there's also always the option of buying a regular, non-motorized mountain bike – going that route is much less expensive, and you won't ever need to worry about your battery dying in the middle of a ride. For riders interested in going down that path, we've put together a
helpful guide to help explain the various options.
Let's start with the absolute basics – what exactly is an eMTB? At its core, it's a mountain bike with an electric motor that provides pedaling assistance, and a battery to run the motor.
There are three different classes of e-bike, but we're only focusing on Class 1 bikes, ones without a throttle and which only output power if the rider is pedaling. These bikes are also limited to 20 mph; you can certainly go faster than that, but the motor won't be providing any help above that speed.
Battery capacity: Battery capacity is measured in watt hours (Wh), and varies depending on the type of bike, ranging from around 320 Wh all the way up to 1000 Wh. The greater the capacity the longer the range, although those bigger batteries do come with a weight penalty.
Torque: Torque refers to how much assistance the bike will provide when you're pushing on the pedals. (There's more to it than that, but that's the extra-simplified version). A bike with a motor that provides more torque will require the rider to exert less force on the pedals when climbing a steep hill compared to one with lower torque. Mid-power eMTBs typically have motors with 35 – 60 Nm of torque, while the motors on full-power eMTB's put out 85 – 100 Nm of torque.
Types of Electric Mountain BikesFull Power eMTBFull power eMTBs have the most powerful motors, largest batteries, and as a result they also have the highest overall weights, typically in the neighborhood of 50 pounds.
All of that power makes it possible to climb up features that would be impossible on a regular bike, which can lead to an entirely different riding experience. This style of eMTB is great for spinning up fireroads to get to a rowdy descent, but they're also a blast when it comes to getting up technical climbs.
The overall ride experience is different than regular mountain biking – bunnyhopping and making sudden quick maneuvers is more difficult due to the higher weight (lifting the bike up onto a bike rack can be challenging too), but the flipside is that this style of eMTB feels the most stable, especially while cornering.
The bigger batteries also allow for a longer run time at full power, increasing the distance that you can travel at the highest level of assistance.
Examples: Specialized Levo,
Trek Rail,
Yeti 160EMid-Power eMTB The mid-power eMTB category has grown rapidly over the last couple of years, thanks to improved battery technology and new motors that make it possible to create bikes that weigh around 40 pounds. The 10 pound weight difference between these bikes and their full-powered counterparts is very noticeable, and riding one feels much more like a regular bike when descending.
The typical power output ranges from 35 Nm to 60 Nm depending on the motor, which means this style of bike doesn't surge up the hill the same way the full-power options can. There assistance is still noticeable, it's just more subtle, closer to a gentle yet steady push rather than a hard shove up a hill.
In order to keep the total weight down, the standard battery capacity of a mid-power eMTB is typically somewhere around 350 Wh, which does limit the maximum range compared to the bigger options with 750 Wh or more capacity. Several of the available models do offer the option of a range extender, an external battery that can be slid into the water bottle cage to eke out even more run time.
Examples: Orbea Rise,
Trek Fuel EX-e,
Scott LumenThings to consider when shopping for an eMTB What are your friends riding? Unless all of your rides are going to be solitary affairs, it's a good idea to consider what your style of eMTB your closest riding buddies are on. It turns out, full power and mid-power eMTBS don't mix that well together on a group ride – the riders with all the power will constantly need to wait for the mid-power riders, or at the very least drop down into a mode that offers less assistance.
It's obviously not the end of the world, but if you end up with the same style of eMTB as your closest riding partners it'll make ride logistics a whole lot easier.
What type of ride experience are you looking for? Do you want a bike that can act as a replacement for a shuttle vehicle, one that makes it possible to knock out the most vertical in the shortest amount of time? The full power route is the way to go.
If you're looking for something that's easier to handle, the mid-powered eMTB is a more mild-mannered option that can still knock out a solid amount of climbing in a short amount of time.
Features to Keep in MindBattery size: bigger is better, up to a point. These days, batteries in the 700 - 750 Wh range seem to sit in the sweet spot for full power eMTBs, giving riders the ability to get out on long, multi-hour rides without incurring as much of a weight penalty as the 900 Wh options.
Cockpit controls: There are a wide variety of cockpit displays, some that look like they'd be better suited to the inside of a spaceship, and others that are much more minimalist. Personally, I like the smaller, less obtrusive options – Specialized does a good job with integrating their display into the top tube, as does Crestline with the way they've integrated Bosch's Kiox display.
Key components: On an eMTB, powerful brakes and tough tires should take top priority. Splurging for an extra fancy shock isn't typically worth it, at least in my experience - I've found that the extra weight of the bike can make middle-of-the-road suspension feel excellent. Going with an aluminum frame will help save money at the cost of additional weight, although don't forget that there's a motor to take off some of the sting.
Maintenance: Unfortunately, e-bike motors aren't that easy to service at home. When something goes wrong it's typically time for a visit to a bike shop, so it's not a bad idea to consider what type of dealer network is available for the motor in the bike you're looking at.
There you have it - a quick primer on what to look for in an eMTB in 2023. Jumping into this world requires a substantial investment, even for the most budget-oriented models, which makes gathering as much information and trying as many options as you can before making a purchase even more important. If the cheapest e-bikes are still too expensive for you, don't worry - regular mountain bikes are a lot more affordable and just as much fun.
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being miserable
That you don't like the answer doesn't change that fact.
They should be labeled "commuter vehicles" and bunched in as true "mopeds". Put brake lights on them, turn signals, a two-person seat, passenger foot pegs, and racks for your groceries. E-bikes don't belong on trails with human powered mountain bikes (just like dirt bikes). You're a poser anyway, www.pinkbike.com/u/afrauenglass
But besides that it is time to realize that we should not be buying new bikes. The manufacturing of a new bike, and especially a e-MTB, is a small environmental disaster, and a MTB can easily last 10-15 years. Use the one you have and help save the planet! Or if you are new to the sport buy used!
You gotta remember though, Moto is basicaly dead in a lot of areas where it used to thrive. Me and lots of my neighbors all used to ride, and now hardly anyone does. Noise complaints and no new riding areas has killed moto everywhere outside BFE.
Moto OEM's need to get off their ass and offer an electric bike already. E-MTBs are taking their lunch and they are asleep at the wheel. And before you mention it, I am familiar with the Alta MXR, and Stark Varg
Here are some basics you can toy with on your own...
A gallon of gas has ~33.7 kWh of energy in it.
An electric motor is ~90% efficient
An ICE is ~30% efficient
This means my KTM 300 which has about 50 miles of range (I often carry gas on longer rides btw) via 2.6 gallons or ~87 kwh. Given the above assumptions, you need about 1/3 of this due to the efficiency of an electric motor so say 30kwh. Maybe 2 stroke engines are extra inefficient so lets say 18-20kwh is required to match that 50 mile range of a dirt bike. That is going to be one monster-heavy dirt bike.
To translate this my model Y has an 81 kwh battery which weighs 1168 lbs. 1/3 of this would weigh 390 pounds. 1/4 of this would weigh 292 pounds.
This is why the Starks and Altas aren't actually viable alternatives and this is why the OEMs aren't actually aiming to "disrupt the space" with e-motos.
They are well aware how impactful going electric *really* would be. Unfortunately, they won't make the big shift (pun intended) until the batteries get 2-3x as dense for their weight. At this point, things will get really really interesting.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
I can afford more toys because I don't have a car payment because I bought a 10 year old dodge ram for $7000 5 years ago and I'll be driving it for another 10+ years. I don't pay for a mechanic as I know how to turn a wrench, have tools and a garage.
You too can have this on a middle class income if you learn to manage your money well.
TC250 OR 300 Would be my ultimate dream bike, but brand new smokers(or mx thumpers either) don't even qualify for a sticker anymore in CA. So it's either old-smoker or E-bike now, really.
"So, we’re launching a seven-part series called MTB Explained, where we help new riders navigate some of the basics of our sport."
Previously there was a "what Mountain Bike should you buy in 2023". They're covering things that people are interested in and eMTB is something that people are interested in. Get off your high horse and get out riding.
That's not for them to judge, and if anything, rational reasoning would be to advise to not buy new bikes (unless you really need a new bike and other options aren't suitable for you).
You seem kinda defensive like you're offended that they're telling YOU that you SHOULD buy a new bike. That's simply not the case that they're making. You should focus on your own life and not be obsessed with other people wanting to buy a new bike.
Anyway, I don't care that articles like these are written. They are not for me, but I assume they help some people finding the right bike for them, and that's good.
My only gripe here is the way they formulated then title of this article. 'What e-bike should you buy in 2023?' totally skips the matter of whether you should actually buy an e-bike in the first place, and therefore, yes, it does make the assumption that we should buy an e-bike.
It doesn't take a genius to decipher what the purpose of the article is. As its stated in the opening of the article.
"The purpose of this guide is to explain the difference between the various options on the market, and hopefully make it easier to decide which one makes the most sense for your riding style.
Of course, there's also always the option of buying a regular, non-motorized mountain bike – going that route is much less expensive, and you won't ever need to worry about your battery dying in the middle of a ride. For riders interested in going down that path, we've put together a helpful guide to help explain the various options."
What part of that sounds like they're trying to tell you that YOU NEED to buy an eMTB?
"My only gripe here is the way they formulated then title of this article. 'What e-bike should you buy in 2023?' totally skips the matter of whether you should actually buy an e-bike in the first place, and therefore, yes, it does make the assumption that we should buy an e-bike."
It doesn't make that assumption. You're projecting that assumption onto the title. How can you tell that it's not a statement that you need to buy an eMTB you might ask. Because it's ended with a ?, it's a question not a statement. How else can you tell that it isn't a statement that you need to buy an eMTB? Because of the content of the article ya ding dong.
Why did I say that you should stop obsessing over other people wanting to buy a new bike? Because you're hung up on what other people do with their money to the point where you're responding to a comment I made to another inflamed a*shole.
zephxiii (Mar 4, 2023 at 20:02)
Granted the title is click bait for the clicks...but damn F U, you shouldn't be pushing e-bikes as things "we should buy in 2023". F U Pinkbike!
lokbot (Mar 5, 2023 at 20:32)
@zephxiii: Maybe you missed it... the article state
"So, we’re launching a seven-part series called MTB Explained, where we help new riders navigate some of the basics of our sport."
Previously there was a "what Mountain Bike should you buy in 2023". They're covering things that people are interested in and eMTB is something that people are interested in. Get off your high horse and get out riding.
WhateverBikes (3 days ago)
@lokbot: You missed the point. Both are annoying, because they imply you SHOULD buy a new (e)bike.
That's not for them to judge, and if anything, rational reasoning would be to advise to not buy new bikes (unless you really need a new bike and other options aren't suitable for you).
A you felt so offended by the idea of other people buying a new bike that you needed you chime in and brosplane how illogical it is to buy a new bike and that other people shouldn't be doing that "unless you really need a new bike". Dude seriously get off of other people's jock. You shouldn't be so worried about what other people do with their money nothing good comes of your aggravation.
I’ve actually been building trails for over 20 years.
Look, the only part that matters of your whole comment is this:
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"My only gripe here is the way they formulated then title of this article. 'What e-bike should you buy in 2023?' totally skips the matter of whether you should actually buy an e-bike in the first place, and therefore, yes, it does make the assumption that we should buy an e-bike."
It doesn't make that assumption. You're projecting that assumption onto the title. How can you tell that it's not a statement that you need to buy an eMTB you might ask. Because it's ended with a ?, it's a question not a statement. How else can you tell that it isn't a statement that you need to buy an eMTB? Because of the content of the article ya ding dong.
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I only commented on the title, not on the article itself, as I clearly stated.
And you are wrong about that part. The title is a question, yes, but that question contains a statement. It doesn't ask IF one should buy an e-bike, it asks WHAT e-bike you should buy. if you don't understand that that implies you should buy an e-bike than this discussion is pretty useless.
Anyway, I'm gonna rebuild a nice nineties mountain bike now, better way to spend my time.
The parr that really matters from my comment is
"The article is likely titled to work well with SEO, as well as let the reader know what the content of the article contains (A comparison of different types of eMTB). The title achieves these goals very clearly. The downside for the title is that some sensitive flowers are going to get triggered by it because they're too insecure and are projecting their insecurity at the comment section on pinkbike. It's a good title for an article, you're just too sensitive and easily offended."
You have to be a complete moron to think that a title directed at another demographic is actually Pinkbike telling you that you SHOULD BUY AND EMTB IN 2023. Also it's easy to clear up the intent of a title by reading a paragraph in the article, but you're already so revved up an pussy hurt that you couldn't bring yourself to perceive any greater context.
You're delusional my friend.
I think the title is crappy, that's all.
Of course I understand it's written for SEO, almost everything is nowadays. That doesn't make it less crappy.
But hey, if it makes you happy to think I am all worked up about that title, be my guest. Can't wait for you next looooooong reply.
1. Old person (70+) - good on you mate for getting out there, an ebike is perfect for you
2. Older person (50-70) - just a rich person who can't ride OR it's okay because you have health issues
3. Anyone aged 30-50 - you are just a rich person who is lazy and ruining the trails
4. Under 30 - scum of the earth
5. Have a physical disability you can see - isn't ebiking amazing! Great on ya!
6. Have disability but can't see it - again you are the scum of the earth
7. Fat - lazy and no point riding a bike if you can't power it yourself, eat better and get fitter then you can enjoy our sport
8. Olympian - also not allowed to ride an ebike because you will lose your fitness
9. Commuter - god bless you, but really I think you should be using an analog and you are lazy
For instance, if you're just pedalling up fire road I can see it being similar. But on a single-track trail loop with a decent amount of technical climbing I find I spend way too much time at/close to my max heart rate if I'm on my enduro bike (arguably the wrong kind of bike but it's what I have). I could only replicate that it I was in eco mode on the emtb, but that's just not fun so I don't do it - I'm usually in tour+ or emtb modes (rarely use turbo).
You're right though, a lot depends on effort you put in, even in similar riding modes. I did two pretty much identical trail centre loops a week apart in January. One trying to keep up with a mate, one not. My heart rate data was pretty different
Solo: Average 139; Max 168
Duo: Average 159; Max 183
Don't have data to hand, but I'd imagine the same ride on MTB would add another 10bpm to the average. What I find on this trail is I am only capable of one pace on the ups because they're tough so I'm close to max effort always. Was the same 20 years ago when I was actually fit.
Other things you can do would be pedal at an amount of watts that would put your HR in zone 2 and let the motor do more work for you and still get up to the top of the hill pretty fast.
P.S. I have a simple hub-driven e-bike for commuting and only ride a single track on a regular MTB. I am not an eMTBer but will say f*ck YOU to fellow MTBers hating on eBikers.
There is only one type of eBike scam I want to be gone - those who don't mark their rides as such on Strava.
Ryawesomerpm (Mar 4, 2023 at 11:19)
Great comment, totally nailed it on the ‘judgemental’ attititudes here and when the ‘exceptions’ are allowed for who should be able to ride an ebike and not be shamed. I’m just over 40 so I fall under the rich category (I assure you I’m not), and lazy (also I’m not), but that’s totally the mentality a lot of people have about them on here. I get my heart rate up on it as much as I do on my regular bike but people can tell me i’m lying and that’s not possible, as that’s another judgemental thing some love to harp on about.
russthedog (Mar 4, 2023 at 15:00)
@Ryawesomerpm: sounds like you actually are just rich and lazy
lokbot (1 days ago)
@russthedog: this guy thinks a middle class worker is rich. You must be too lazy to dedicate yourself to a job, or you're broke because you're to stupid and don't know how to manage your money so you can buy nice toys.
russthedog (2 hours ago)
@lokbot: the fact that I'm on here should tell you that I'm probably also middle class as well, and therefore also proportionately rich - well at least rich enough to own a bike or two!
Ahh so you're saying that anyone who owns a bike or two is rich.
Honestly, just get out there and ride whatever bike you like. If it's an v-brake equipped 26-er, boutique full-sus mullet or eMTB.
I (ve) owned them all and loved them all. If you put a gun to my head and I have to choose one bike, it would be the eMTB hands down.
1. As there is so much development in this field, resale value will be relatively low.
2. Wear on parts will be high.
3. Whereas you can learn to work on nearly everything of an unassisted bike (except for maybe a rear shock), you will most definitely not learn to work on the electronics of an e-bike. So whenever it needs work, it implies money and downtime.
You're right that you'd still have downtime, but that's not unique to eMTB. When you dent a rim, crack a chain stay, rip off a derailleur, you end up with down time. It takes time to order a rim and spokes and have enough time to build a new wheel. Or in my case, submit a warranty for my rim I bought that has a lifetime warranty.
Not buying something that you'd enjoy just because there's a potential for needing service down the line leaves you missing out on a lot of fun.
All of the other maintenance parts of the eMTB are identical to MTB and could be done in your own garage just like an analog MTB.
I'll gladly sell you one. That helps keep me in a job and keeps the lights on. The downside is that I'm almost fully occupied with warranty issues. Despite the fact that E-bike sales only make up a small percentage or sales, they make up a large part of the warranty claims I'm putting through on behalf of customers. The added complexity of these ebike systems adds so much bloody opportunity for faults it's not funny. I'm seriously worried our best mechanic is going to walk out because he's sick and tired of all of the problems we see over and over with some ebikes, and I'm talking about a couple of the biggest brands here. We don't even touch anything with a Bafang system or similar.
Until these things are more reliable and I see bikes with +10k price tags that aren't constantly f-ckin up I'm riding my Amish bike and happily doing less laps. I know my legs will be ready for my next Chilcotins trip
But you know what? I still can go ride, and I don't need to charge my bike to do it.
The sport of mountain biking is entirely what you make it to be.
People who have been riding a MTB for years and decided to get an eMTB do pretty well at riding where they are allowed--they understand and respect the trails. On the other hand, I've ran into more than one weekend warrior type who bought one because he needed something to burn off all the Bud Light he drinks while on his boat. These guys will never show up to a trail day in their life, and give f*ck-all about trail etiquette. But it's not all of one type or the other.
A lot of Colordado doesn't allow ebikes from my understanding, and that's likely due to trails being crowded enough as it is. But there are plenty of places where ebikes are allowed to be ridden. Unless posted otherwise, ebikes are allowed by default.
Having said all that, I have a (low power) ebike which I bought last year for health issues. I also have friends with ebikes. Walking contradiction that I am.
To be fair, not everyone advocates for trail access, or shows up to dig days. But the 'natural order' used to dictate that the individual at least had to be fit enough to climb and access the trails, and have more hours in the saddle developing handling skills. That can now be circumvented by going the ebike route.
Friendly comments and funny discusions are happening on pretty much all climbs for me, but you do have to be polite and respect the other riders out there.
Pinkbike gave these people an Ebike Filter but they refuse to use it so they can exprese their own displeasure of Not wanting to have fun only in MTB, they cant handle the fact someone just wants enjoy themselves instead of slogging their way to the top for no reason. - They've also written these comments whiling Compiling a List of Bike parks with chairlifts they wish to Ride this season.
Hating on ebikes is like refusing to drive a car because your horse was good enough - wheres your horse now? dead.
People who downvote my original comment only prove to themselves that they agree that they are one of the 8 examples of people I gave - its a shame we cant see who downvotes and upvotes, because then we could choose Whether future comments by said people had any real value or some ego opinion that reflected their low IQ.
Im going to "assume" you dont like ebikes, why do you feel like you need to come onto these and post you dont like them?
People who are fit an enjoy the climb have a Weird Ego about the fact they had to spend timing getting fit to get to the top quickly - then an ebike fatty zooms past them. for whatever reason that upsets them.. while they are puffing alot and sweating while the ebiker has big grin and has done 2 more laps(anther reason why ebikes are so good, more laps MORE fun)
The point i made is Ebikers tend to have more fun as they can complete more laps for longer, thus a longer time having fun.. hence MORE fun.
Sorry you cant understand what im saying and im sure this will make you reply but go hop on your steam/acoustic bike and have fun.
(for relative sake, i dont own an ebike anymore and i have to slog my way up these days.)
I ride basically all types of bikes (e-bike and not) and they are all quite a lot of fun.
Other than that let people ride what they want.
It’s like you haven’t actually ridden an e-bike. No wonder you’re complaining about problems that don’t exist
What does that have to do with the original comment? How’s your reading comprehension? Clouded by your anti e-bike anger? Lol.
It's a every broad statement you've used. Could you please cite references/studies you've 'gleaned' this information from or is it just the auditory hallucinations in your mind? Or is it just a "look at the big brain on Brad" moment.
no mocking going on as there's no humour in the statement you made, just contempt for anyone you perceive as disabled.
It may have been meant differently but it didn't come across that way so my apologies for calling you a karen, especially since i was being contemptuous.
ok i gotta try it now
Also, "never" is a pretty final word. Your mileage is nice, but here's to you never getting injured, getting a disease, needing a hip replacement, wanting one final attempt at a trail you can no longer do, going on a cycling vacation with limited time...whatever. I hope things never change for you...
About the motor; AFAIK even “permanent” batteries can be removed. Just perhaps not conveniently. My new eeb has a permanent. We’ll see how it goes!
Mountain biking has strong culture to it, like any specialty sport. People find comfort in understanding themselves through their identity as a mountain biker, surrounded by familiar people, stories, places, etc.
Then e-bike people come along and co-opt that identity for themselves - in some cases, without any appreciation for the history, the traditions, and sometimes without the concern for the future viability.
It's the cycling equivalent of "the illegals are comin' for yer jobs". That's why it gets so political and hostile.
I rode half nelson three times. Once on an ebike. once on a tow strap being pulled by my wife on her bike. once on my enduro.
HR/effort from my Garmin HR monitor told me I did effort of 25, 250/300. Max 120/191/180.
I used to argue that I could pedal just as hard on an bike and get just as much exercise but cover more ground. My heart tells me otherwise.
They're handy for towing kids up mountains, or for conserving energy for more laps, or for entry into the sport (injuries, disabilities etc).
The opposition comes across as petty.
E-bikes offer huge benefits - whether that’s recovery, age, disability, commute or fun based. However as a species we are getting fat.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-64831848
As a survey… how many e-bikers are over weight vs. those who don’t ride e-bikes.
Enjoy biking in all its forms. But E-bikes don’t give the same cardio workout. A lot of the E bikers I see… fat. No point sugar coating it. They’re not commuting. They don’t look like they have a disability, or recovering from injury. They do look like they are having fun. But they’re not getting the workout they think they are. Yup their heart rate might be jacked. Bloody pressure too. But that’s mainly down to their weight/underlying health.
The people complaining about having to "earn your turns" have never touched a shovel in their life. go back to your shitty XC trails. We have been on DH bikes way longer than your dinky little trail/enduro bikes have existed.
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2. Life of crime
3. Sell organ/s
4. Refinance house
5. Go to dental school
You buy a eMTB for 10k, post it on on marketplace for 6k, with 500 miles that’s $8/mile.
Yikes
No problem with my shop also at the end of warranty.
He's not making things up, it's an opinion gained from experience. Have you seat time in any of the above mentioned bikes?
And here's another one of me flicking it around quickly: www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7GKlG61Lg
If I had a digital I would have blasted some fire roads or looked for the gnarliest thing to climb and still had fun
It's a bike... Pick a bike and be a dick about every other bike, wheel size, head angle, seat angle and bar width.
I have a crf 250 too and i ride one full tank and more a lot . i am 51 years old, perfect health , no sore bones or ligaments.
Ebike is the best toy i can really enjoy those days. Can t be bothered with Purists telling me a acoustic is the real deal. Lazy, boomer, or green save the world exemples . rock your own bike and get to your life, my new bike is a modern horse, and i thank the assistance and smiles for miles.
i never joined MTB for taking on that big climb and show anyone how fit and lean i am, or going 40 miles, Now i do it twice.
Turbo mode all the time. Don t mind to ride on my own too, Full power.
If your physically able and ride on mtb specific trails its lame. If you go out on cutblock/ enduro moto trails and explore farther and further than a mtb can, thats cool. If you use your ebike to get more laps in vs a shuttle truck. Its cool. You are not using your motor going down anyways.
From what I understand you should be prepared to replace off the shelf ebike motors on the regular (and hope the OEM doesn’t make the motor/frame obsolete).
This option seems to be an effective counter to that.
Bring on the downvotes bitchez!
Just for the sake of My Perspective…
If there were no anti e bike commenters the
Pro fake bike crowd would just sit around
keyboards and have kumbaya feels beteeen
Masabtorial watt counts.
The tech is still a bit young.
I promised myself. I won’t buy one till I’m 70
-you missed a very important point that people who don't own an ebike need to seriously consider. The drivetrain on full power ebikes gets chewed up really quick and that includes rear hubs that get destroyed on the regular. It is very important to consider these parts when buying an ebike. The hub should be ebike specific and/or one that is bombproof. In regards to drivetrain, would you buy top of the line drivetrain parts if you knew they would done in 3 months if you ride a lot?
-I also think for the wear and tear that people should consider buying a rear tire with thicker casing than their normal MTB and that tire should be a harder compound than your typical Maxxis 3C as you will burn that tire so fast your head will spin! adding an insert should also be seriously considered as you will flat more regularly as you tend to hit things with more force than when you are riding a regular mtb
-currently there are also electric conversion kits for regular MTB, there are also rear hub motors that should be touched upon as to why they exist and why it is a bad idea to take it on a trail. There are also really powerful ebikes that are legally not an e mountain bike and a quick explanation would be very useful ( tell that to Simon Cowell)
-as for rear shock, I agree fancy is not necessarily better but if you are going to ride an ebike up and down and drain your battery because you love doing laps, you will discover that a coil shock is a really good idea as a regular air shock is ok but the added weight of the bike and the longer rides affect the air shock significantly but the performance on a coil shock is consistent from the first minute you ride to the end of your day and since you are riding an ebike, the extra weight is worth it. My ebike came one and my friends have been looking to upgrade or have already done it!
-one part that is also overlooked are the cranks as most of us find that the stock length (usually 165-170 mm cranks) causes most people to bang them a lot more regularly with the new long long slack geometry and switching to a 155 or 160 mm crank really helps with cornering and doesn't affect the climbing abilities very much since you have a motor to help.
These are the sort of tips that newcomers to the ebikes should be told as people who ride ebikes know this because they have experienced it.
Also, this article could have been written by AI and it would probably have done a better job at motivating people to buy an ebike. I don't know how much riding Mike has done on an ebike but his clear lack of enthusiasm in this article will not gain support for ebikes. Saying that ebikes are a blast when going up technical climbs is completely missing the point about ebikes. They are game changers everywhere you take them and sometimes the most fun you can have is flat singletrack that zigzags and you don't need downhills to experience the thrill and the speed of a downhill on a regular bike.
In regards to cost compared to a regular MTB, yes you will realize that parts are not as high end as the regular bikes we see but if you are investing $6k or more into a regular Mountain bike, there are a few ebikes that would be at that price point that will bring a lot more joy and fun than buying the best components/carbon frame on a regular MTB.
To me it's all about the smiles per mile and an ebike does that in so many more ways than a regular MTB.
Some of that stuff is in the hands of sales/service at the LBS, but key things are in the hands of the product manager and that can start a bike in the negative for sure.
I am pretty passionate about ebikes and I find that PB is doing a piss poor job at writing articles about them.
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