Gee Atherton Air-Lifted from the Red Bull Rampage Course After Crash in Practice [Updated with Injury Report]

Oct 10, 2023 at 11:15
by Brian Park  
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Gee in 2022. Photo: Jack Tennyson / Atherton Bikes

Gee Atherton has been air-lifted from the 2023 Red Bull Rampage course by helicopter after a crash on the first attempt of his massive mid-mountain drop. Gee is conscious and we hope that the unconfirmed reports of him being able to move his toes on the stretcher are a positive sign.

Gee s drop at Rampage 2023. Photo Izzy Lidsky.
The 60+ feet vertical drop is especially difficult because there's very little distance out.
Photo Izzy Lidsky
Gee was quickly evacuated off the mountain and is now in hospital care.

Gee's drop has been highlighted by competitors as especially difficult and terrifying. It was quite windy when he sent it this morning, most other riders weren't planning on riding at the time. He hit the drop with a lot of speed, drifting a bit back seat and to the right in the air, and landing deep before crashing.

We are gutted for Gee, who has been fighting to recover from a crash in 2021 that left him with multitude broken bones and other injuries. Healing vibes to Gee, and we'll update this as we get more information.





Update 4pm: Gee's posted his crash on Instagram with the caption "Heavy day at RedBull Rampage, this one was always going to be a beast. #lightweightbaby. Injury update to follow."

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Update 10/11 According to Gee, his injuries aren't too bad, but for most humans "some fractures to vertebrae and a few skull fractures" would count as quite serious.




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  • 469 3
 Damn, this guy is always pushing himself so hard. He comes back after insane crashes so good, his mental game is insanely strong. I love watching Gee ride but won't be too crushed if he "retires", seeing him get injured this much is tough.
Hoping for a good and speedy recovery for Gee, we know he'll put in the work to be right back where he was.
  • 530 4
 At this point, I would be relieved if he retires...
  • 67 0
 You captured my feelings as well, his Dolomites video and riding Rampage had me impressed to the point of concern. He knows his body, he knows his limits. May he heal quickly.
  • 6 0
 @yahmon: ditto
  • 32 2
 Look on the bright side at this point his bones are mostly titanium so he can get back to doing amazing stuff sooner! Heal up Gee
  • 93 9
 All the respect in the world but I'm not sure his mental game is so strong, the way he seems almost unable to resist putting himself in really dangerous situations. We idolize them for it but there's a point for some of these guys where it doesn't seem healthy. Makes me think of Mat Hoffman's story. Huge bummer. All the best to his recovery.
  • 29 4
 There was always a very high chance of him crashing, his line was insane. He was pretty much making up for his lack of slope style prowess by going massive. I hope a few others reconsider the risks of their lines and change it up a bit
  • 6 5
 GEEZ That was insane
  • 17 0
 Gee has been eating concrete for breakfast since his downhill days.
  • 15 0
 Holy crap that was a massive crash after landing that insane free fall of a drop. He’s lucky to be alive. So happy to see he’s posting updates. Fingers crossed that means he’s ok.
  • 12 17
flag sanchofula (Oct 10, 2023 at 15:45) (Below Threshold)
 @yahmon: like what you think matters to Gee, seriously, the guy lives to ride and go big, ya can't blame him, if I had that talent and super ginormous gonads, I'd never stop.

Healing vines!
  • 13 1
 @yahmon: exactly. Just hang out at the bike park. Take some bike trips. Ride off into the sunset. No need to risk the biscuut at this point. Plus i cant bare to watch the carnage
  • 9 1
 Oh, my heart sank when I read the title. No risk, no rewards these days. Best of luck recovering Gee.
  • 25 13
 @yahmon: he knows himself, and his abilities.....I will never advocate for anyone to do anything than what THEY want to do. we are all masters and owners of own existence, and if we as an individual choose something that ends us, so be it.

I find it a bit selfish to ask or demand of others, our own wishes for them.
  • 21 3
 @Mtbdialed: You really wouldn't ever encourage someone to reconsider a choice or warn someone when they might be making a mistake? That's a really extreme position if you think about it.
  • 7 2
 @yahmon: I don't want him to retire. I hope he is not badly hurt but that was a brutal landing. He's clearly not 'past it' and I hope he doesn't retire yet. That drop is doable, and the landing would be ok if he hit it correctly. He just went too fast. Reminded me of the Robbie Madison Vegas drop where he gassed it just a little too much and landed way down the transition. Didn't crash but was lucky to hold on with a broken wrist from the impact.
  • 4 27
flag likeittacky (Oct 10, 2023 at 20:42) (Below Threshold)
 His Mother must have had labor pains unlike any other in the history of man! I bet that's how he got his name and Gee is short for what She was really screaming out at him during conception.
  • 1 1
 @yahmon: came here to say that... take a hint....
  • 12 4
 Redbull should have released a “Fast Recovery” flavor of their drink long time ago.
  • 3 0
 @Grady-Harris: That probably explains why he keeps coming back. He's basically Wolverine !
  • 10 3
 @BiNARYBiKE: If I was a family member or friend then maybe, but as a complete stranger, no. Would you appreciate someone you've never met telling you how to live your life?
  • 3 2
 Also everyone saying RedBull would pull their sponsorship if something catastrophic happens, Redbull is Rampage they own and run the event so they cant pull their sponsorship they are the event. Its insanely dangerous but world cup racing has just as much chance of something bad happening especially with the amount of riders riding. At least at Rampage the risks are obvious and the riders have complete control of their line and have all week to tune it. World cup sometimes there's a tree that you never thought about until you are crashing at 30mph and its in your path.
  • 3 1
 This is the guy that goes big or break trying. There is no go home.
  • 18 4
 You know what's really dangerous for your health. Inactivity, boredom, over eating...
  • 10 2
 @likeittacky: If you don't know the difference between conception and birth, you probably shouldn't be allowed near a keyboard. Or children.
  • 5 4
 @commental: In case of obvious imminent danger, would you still follow that line? As human we all follow a pattern dictated by our culture, laws and common sense. In a certain way, we are told what to do and when to do it. Warning someone who goes full reckless mode is not a bad thing. An extreme example : would you pass by someone trying to end its life, in complete silence?
  • 5 5
 @nicoMF: Do you think you're better placed than Gee to decide what "full reckless mode" is for him? That's a pretty arrogant position.
And "obvious imminent danger". Better call the whole competition off.
  • 4 4
 @BiNARYBiKE: it isn't, and you are either misconstruing what i said, or purposefully making a red herring argument. I am honestly stumped as to which you are doing, but I will assume the least amount of bad faith here as I can, and explain:

I was clearly not talking about talking your dumbf*ck friend out of jumping off a cliff. I am talking about trying to impose your values when it comes to risk, upon someone else. Gee is clearly capable of riding at this level, fully understands the risks, yet he personally finds the risk worth it. So it is no ones place but his to make that decision. I am for whatever makes you happy. truly. even if it kills you.
  • 5 0
 I hate to say it, but this is not surprising news. Gee is an amazingly talented rider but he has a history of pretty gnarly crashes when trying to push his limits. Wasn't that drop the biggest one ever made or something? As soon as I saw that set up, you could see the crash coming. This is coming from a very mediocre armchair commentator but...come on, no one else?
  • 6 0
 @Waki-resurrectal: Redbull gives you wiiings!


(parachute and landing gear sold separately)
  • 6 1
 @Mtbdialed: Sorry, no bad faith, misconstruing, or red herring intended. Just responding to what you said at face value. If we're talking about random Pinkbike commenters telling Gee how to manage risk, I'm with you. But your comment painted in much broader strokes, at least by my reading: "we are all masters and owners of own existence, and if we as an individual choose something that ends us, so be it." and "I am for whatever makes you happy. truly. even if it kills you" As broader philosophical approaches, I can't personally get behind. I can think of a dozen examples of why I think that's a bad philosophy but fair enough if you feel otherwise.

Sorry to get all philosophical. I love to think about these sorts of things and Rampage stirs it up every year. I'm inclined to believe similar to you, "These guys know the risk, they know their skillset, they have their passion. They can choose." The one caveat is that there are many cases of action sports athletes who become addicted to the adrenaline and dopamine and/or hit their heads a few too many times and they may not actually be in a position to make a rational decision. Still none of our business but I would think it's completely appropriate for friends and family to have those conversations. I would expect most of these guys, especially those who are husbands and fathers, have had some serious conversations with their loved ones. I think it's completely appropriate for a wife, for example, to ask how important Rampage is vs. being alive for their child, being able to walk, living a long, full life, etc.
  • 9 2
 "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"

-Hunter S Thompson
  • 1 3
 @ReformedRoadie: So much anger. I wasn’t scrolling to comment board for months, I barely open articles. Same same.
  • 7 4
 @Mtbdialed: "he knows himself, and his abilities"

clearly he does not. He overestimates the latter which sometimes lead to spectacular rides and sometimes to real heavy injuries.
  • 3 9
flag Mtbdialed (Oct 11, 2023 at 9:52) (Below Threshold)
 @BiNARYBiKE: its only a bad philosophy if you do not believe in liberty, self determination, and autonomy.


furthermore, length is NOT the sole metric in determining value of ones life.
  • 3 3
 @riverbum: everyone at this level has taken those hits. every. one. It is part of the agreement you make to be the best. you will fail.

that is not in indictment of his skills. it is a testement to his resolve and guts.
  • 5 1
 @BiNARYBiKE: Yep.
"It was quite windy when he sent it this morning, most other riders weren't planning on riding at the time." - That tells a lot about his mental game. And not in a good way. If seasoned Rampage/slopestyle pros choose to not ride, you don't ride. SMH
  • 3 0
 @enduroNZ: Yeah, I wonder if the fact that Rampage is going in a more slope-style direction is pushing some older riders into massive lines to make up for their lack of slope style skills. As a spectator, I like to see both and I am happy with Rampage going back to more freeride lines but seeing people get hurt is not entertaining. Bummer for Gee
  • 3 1
 @ReformedRoadie: "Who needs wings when you got balls !" (G.A. Oct 10, 2023)
  • 2 0
 "Injuries are not too bad tho, some fractures to vertebrae and a few skull fractures will mean I’ll have to chill for a few weeks."
what a maniac
www.instagram.com/p/CyRcun_x1aJ
  • 1 2
 @yahmon: retire you don't understand the mentality of an athlete!
gaggahaahhaahah
  • 2 1
 @BenPea: AH, if ain't PeaBrain himself chiming in, LOL. Well, you did call it out correct, Thanks for the catch. I should have slowed down typing of my last post before closing the computer for the evening and proof read how i wrote it. Hope this makes you feel like you've earned some dignity back with all the stupid ass things you have said here in the halls of debate!
  • 1 2
 @nikoniko: Cheers Niko!
  • 1 1
 @psyfi: feel like he might not know his limits so well. He's almost killed himself too many times
  • 1 0
 @Notmeatall: I’m like this, go big. (Not as big by any stretch of the imagination) or go to hospital.
  • 369 234
 At some point, someone will die competing in Rampage. The risk level is too high, even a small gust of wind could push someone from hitting a landing zone to a terminal impact.

When that happens, Red Bull will pull sponsorship, freeriders and industry folks will say stuff on record like "at least he died doing what he loved" and some dumb foundation will be created to "commemorate" (more like monetize) the meaningless death of an athlete pushing waaaaay too far.

This line was dumb, the level of risk at Rampage at this point is dumb, and Gee is lucky not to be dead. So-I'm glad Gee isn't dead. But it's time to cancel Rampage.
  • 208 2
 I am not disagreeing with your sentiment but I doubt that's enough to stop it. Look at the isle of man TT race.
  • 126 42
 Here we go. Another year, another this is too dangerous stop these guys making these decisions for themselves thread.
  • 43 3
 This is starting to give me a "point break" vibe, like are you ready to die to win.
I hope it never happens, because after pushing the limit to much you may find it
  • 39 0
 @konarider94: not only is the TT an event where people actually do die every year, but it's government-run and endorsed
  • 31 3
 @konarider94: Motorsports has a horrifying history of fatalities.

Cycling (all disciplines) is dangerous, but death in competition is pretty rare. I suspect “the optics” would kill the sponsorship money that keeps Rampage running.
  • 8 1
 @chrisclifford: Yeah and there used to be a half dozen TT's around the world but now its just teh Isle of Man, and many are anticipating the TT to not be a thing in a couple decades.

Never say never, look at how they removed Moto's from the PPIHC.
  • 33 4
 He is someone that has dedicated his hole life to the sport, had more serious crashes than most riders on the world, and is still going, this is his life and his choices. No one is pushing him to do this more than himself, he is responsible for his decisions. I belive he would rather die in an event like Rampage pursuing his passion and pushing the sport that arguably gave him all he have and that he dedicated his life to than being afraid. Sad for Gee, hope he gets better soon. Healing vibes.
  • 14 2
 Cancel some of the risk, but rampage has been insanely dangerous for over 10 years already. On with the show
  • 33 15
 Risk is all relative. You can get seriously injured falling down the stairs- my friend nearly died checking on his barking dog one morning and falling down carpeted stairs- fractured C2 into 3 pieces and dissected his vertebral artery. Lucky to be alive. Also- show some respect for Gee "I'm glad he's not dead" is a pretty piss poor way of showing concern for a fellow rider.
Wishing you all the best Gee man!
  • 2 1
 Ain’t that the truth mate.
  • 14 2
 @Frenchemetalheads: In Kerr's vlogs he's always talking about how so-and-so rider is "ready to die", or how he has to be "ready to die" to win a World Cup race. You don't huck yourself off a 50ft cliff without knowing that death is a distinct possibility from that high up, we're well past the 'ready to die' top-end level of the sport.
Luckily for us the people at that level have a lifetime worth of skills and trust in their equipment, and we rarely hear of top-level riders dying (aside from Road Cycling, which has had quite a few premature deaths at World Tour races in recent years).
  • 15 39
flag chrismac70 (Oct 10, 2023 at 14:15) (Below Threshold)
 It only exists to sell drinks. I wonder if RB pay the medical bills or worse any long term help an injured rider suffers at the event. I suspect not
  • 6 45
flag Jules15 (Oct 10, 2023 at 14:17) (Below Threshold)
 Hardline is far more dangerous than Rampage. In Rampage the features may be bigger but you aren't in a race environment. At Hardline people are hitting multiple 100+foot gaps at race pace whilst in the zone on bikes that are set super firm for racing. We've seen what happens if you come in ever so slightly too fast at hardline, your wheel folds and you get knocked out because of the speeds and forces involved.
  • 36 2
 I’ll admit to being a bit conflicted watching Rampage. On the one hand I admire the skill and courage involved, on the other I can’t help but to feel I’m implicitly encouraging such risks by giving it an audience. Would they ride these lines if no one was watching? I’m not sure…
  • 15 0
 @chrismac70: one of the reasons why athletes are so positive to be sponsored by Red Bull, is because of their insurance.

Gee is a Red Bull athlete.
  • 19 0
 @chrismac70: Red Bull sponsored athletes do get excellent medical coverage as part of the deal, not sure if it is extended to everyone at Rampage.
  • 12 0
 @Jules15: wouldn’t the bikes be set up more firm for the big hits at rampage? at hardline they want the suspension to work in the chunk cause they are racing. Didn’t that bike check yesterday on the SB165 say the shock was maxed out on pressure?
  • 7 27
flag boardinbob (Oct 10, 2023 at 14:33) (Below Threshold)
 @FloImSchnee: what insurance? Life insurance maybe, but these guys (and girls) don't have medical insurance via Red Bull.
  • 3 53
flag boardinbob (Oct 10, 2023 at 14:34) (Below Threshold)
 @farkinoath: do they?

I've spent 20 years working in the medical insurance industry. Red Bull have never come to me and asked for a quote to insure their athletes.
  • 69 10
 honestly I don't get the appeal of Rampage any more.. I have watched it a couple of years, the rating of runs never made any sense, and the whole event was actually pretty boring... always windy, so 20 minutes waiting for a 2 minute ride, lots of boring banter in between... meh.. DH Worldcup is a lot more exciting in my opinion
  • 26 6
 I could not disagree more. Rampage is high risk but it a riders choice. Telling them to shut down because it makes you uncomfortable is a slap in the face to the raiders and diggers and all those a part of the project.
  • 27 0
 @boardinbob: Are you their only option?!
  • 17 1
 I don’t claim to know the future, but I do know redbull is involved in more deadly sports than mtb and they seem to continue sponsoring and featuring those sports despite people dying in those scenes with some regularity. The things snowboarders and skiers get up to in redbull helicopters each winter is even crazier than rampage and avalanches do claim the lives of skiers and snowboarders every winter. Red bull has had base jumpers doe before, and the more extreme surfers also drown from time to time unfortunately.

When your business is extreme sports unfortunately stuff like that is going to happen.
  • 4 5
 @thechunderdownunder: shutting it down is not the answer but making the features more safe, maybe having more features that are properly built being consistent with scoring so riders don’t feel that bigger is going to score better
  • 17 0
 @enduroNZ: so, a slopestyle comp on the desert? Where tricking the prebuilt features is the only way to differentiate riders? No thanks.
  • 6 23
flag VelkePivo (Oct 10, 2023 at 14:58) (Below Threshold)
 I'm sure you're all for the Nanny State. Big Sister is watching, huh?
  • 2 0
 @pbfan08: that's not entirely accurate, road racing is still alive and well in Ireland and on the Isle of Man where there are more events than just the TT. There are about a dozen road races a year. PPIHC has had a Moto class on and off a few times, but that event is pretty fickle. My point being, as horrifying as it is to admit, I doubt a rider death would be the end of Rampage
  • 16 0
 I'm not one of those people calling for the end of Rampage, but I do think there's something inherently broken about the event that needs fixing.
Everything about the event hypes up the riders, raises expectations, and encouraging risk, but there's no opportunity for mitigation when the wind's gusting around and the time is ticking away. The setup pushes athletes to take on more risks than they might have otherwise bargained for, and with the catastrophic consequences at play, especially for the DH focus riders, something needs to change.

Hardline has a fixed finish so if the weather is crap they just bring the start down the hill into the trees. Rampage doesn't allow for that flexibility.
Hardline is a super gnarly race, so ultimately it's about impartial objective lap-times. Rampage is a scored event with a bias (particularly over the last 10 years) to the slopestyle tricks over the DH/ Freeride creative lines.
I know they're different events, but surely there's lessons that can be learned from each other.
  • 6 0
 @boardinbob: some say even Max Verstappen is totally uninsured, and the only reason he races for red bull is to pay off his dads medical bills he incurred from his time racing.
  • 7 0
 @ROOTminus1: Well worded. My conflict with rampage is not that people choose to build and ride risky lines in the desert, it's the way the competition is set around it. Everyone who has been in one will know that once a competitio is on, your decision making changes. Don't cancel the event, don't turn it into slopestyle, but start exploring what can maybe be done for riders safety, that doesn't take away from the event.
Redbull Art of Motion (a parkour competition) did a format where they essentially did an on site video competition. Maybe some inspiration from that? With wind almost always being a topic, I think formats that give riders a lot more freedom on when they drop in would potentially help a lot.
  • 22 3
 Wasn’t it Cam Zink who said”We would be doing this shit even if they didn’t pay us?
  • 13 1
 My issue with Rampage is the prize money is laughable. Relief pitcher in baseball makes that per pitch. The event is insane, I love it but ya the risk is so high for so little. Although have to admit dunno what a sponsor like trek pays their rider when they win.
  • 6 9
 If you can't stand the heat ...

These guys (and gals someday) are not riding for you, they are riding for themselves, they self select and choose to ride this stuff.

Seriously, don't you get the deal: The riders are building the features they ride, it's not rocket science to see them ride their own creations.
  • 3 0
 @bucky99: I don't think anyone would disagree with you on that. They've increased it, but not enough.
  • 8 1
 @Jules15: I'm going to disagree just because these lines are built in less than 10 days. That's quite an insane amount of time to build a top to bottom line down a mountain and include drops and jumps. Sure the work-load is shared around, but these riders are guinea pigging all these features. Hardline has been tested and developed over years. At hardline there is someone to tow you into the features. Here, you're all on your own.
  • 1 4
 @Spencermon: Just for argument sakes... most of those lines have huge sections that are carry over from prior years... None of them are building 100% from scratch at that site.

But yes... remarkable amount of work they put in. Incredible really. But just because they're doing it quickly doesn't mean that everything isn't very well thought out, planned and executed.
  • 14 8
 "At some point, someone will die competing in Rampage. The risk level is too high, even a small gust of wind could push someone from hitting a landing zone to a terminal impact."
Thats every Rampage since day 1. Thats also why you watch.

Maybe its time for those having a hard time watching to tune out of Rampage. Lawn bowling is a relaxing sport.
  • 12 7
 At some point we all will die, don't forget that.
  • 4 0
 @onemanarmy: Right. I just don't think that "Hardline is far more dangerous than Rampage" as @jules15 stated. I know they put a lot of preparation into this event and they are all experts and extremely skilled. Still, I would rank Rampage as more dangerous than Hardline. They are both still absolutely bonkers. But as far as danger goes, Rampage takes it.
  • 9 10
 And your comment is dumb. You determine your own level of risk you are willing to take. People do big drops with or without rampage. That will always happen regardless of Karen's like you. Can't even use the usual argument that they are forced to because this is now someone who already was monetarily secure in life. In every dangerous sport someone will die. Boxing, F1, american football and football even though it's not even a dangerous sport. But no it has to rampage that needs to be canceled because you don't actually think about what you say.
  • 1 2
 @pisgahgnar: Yeah look, an opinion within a discussion. Might be more about stop sponsoring folks making these decisions, just a thought.
  • 7 20
flag KickFlipABike (Oct 10, 2023 at 17:21) (Below Threshold)
 > But it's time to cancel Rampage.

I agree, but not for the reasons you stated. Its become a overglorified slopestyle competition, with some bullshit along the way, like no women riders and newbloods like Dylan Stark not getting an invite.

Sad thing is, even if Gee rode the drop in the finals, he wouldn't win compared to people like Semenuk that win solely by throwing a big trick off a medium size feature.
  • 3 6
 He did not make any mistakes and wind wasn't a factor. It must be manufacturer defect.
  • 6 7
 Motorcycle racing of just about any sort is way more dangerous than Rampage, props to Red Bull for continuing to progressing the sport. This is the only event to look forward to in mountain biking now that World Cup DH sucks and all these idiots want to cancel it!?

@KickFlipABike: With this type of drops riders like Gee are making Rampage less like slopestyle and more like the old days.
  • 9 1
 @enduroNZ: it’s free ride though, and sometimes big mountain slope-style now a days. Gee had never wanted a tame line and I think it’s foolish to think he does it for fans or redbull or any reason other than he loves to push himself beyond the limits of most mortals. I used to love to push my limits on my motorcycles, until one day I decided it wasn’t worth it. Some people are just driven. Let them Rampage!
  • 3 0
 @konarider94: funny, I agree with some of wyorider but also was thinking, isle of man TT is actually way way more extreme than this, however, its an average of 3 riders per year that die there I believe. No one wants that rampage. Not me.
  • 4 18
flag wyorider (Oct 10, 2023 at 18:04) (Below Threshold)
 @pisgahgnar: They don't just "make choices". There's a marquis event with a lot of prize money and prestige that spurs riders to go beyond what they should.

Someone will die, that'll end the event. It shouldn't have to come to that.
  • 8 15
flag wyorider (Oct 10, 2023 at 18:06) (Below Threshold)
 @dhsemlimites: I'd say ask his family about how they feel about that. And maybe talk to Gee in 20 years if he doesn't kill himself. He'll be shattered.....for no good reason.

Marquis events like Rampage lead to greater risk taking than athletes would otherwise engage in. It shouldn't take a death to deal with that.
  • 3 10
flag wyorider (Oct 10, 2023 at 18:08) (Below Threshold)
 @slayerdegnar: The risk is inherent to having the event in a desert environment where the winds are constant and unpredictable. The only way to have a competition with this scale is to put it in an area with more stable weather. As the features have gotten increasingly difficult, committing, and consequential the risk has skyrocketed, and I doubt that'll change if the venue stays the same.
  • 12 6
 @dirtbagluvin: I call BS-the risk of injury or death is significantly greater on a several hundred foot drop onto rocky ground than falling down the stairs. Sure, you can die in the shower

And 2 massive injuries in something like 5 years-maybe Gee is making some less than great decisions, and needs more than vapid "support" from people who won't wipe his bottom if he ends up paralyzed.
  • 7 3
 @pisgahgnar: Yeah, I get that sentiment, but if the Red Bull notoriety, prize money, sponsorship wasn't there, would these guys be out there risking this much? At some point Red Bull stops being a cool sponsor, and starts being the company that is exploiting the tenuous financial nature of being a professional freerider.....
  • 33 7
 Man this cracks me up. 2 weeks ago it was #letthemride everyone should be able to go compete in this event. Now that the men are showing how insanely gnarly the rampage lines are it’s “shut it down!” What a joke. Red Bull probably will pull out of this event and the MTB industry and more importantly the riders will be much worse off without them.
  • 8 20
flag pinkbert (Oct 10, 2023 at 19:07) (Below Threshold)
 @bbachmei: Rampage lines don't just spawn out of nowhere and let them ride has nothing to do with how stupidly dangerous some of them are, strong incel vibes on your end though with the let them ride reference, which again, has nothing to do with how dangerous these stunts are because, believe it or not, a woman, (gasp!), could have just as easily as any alpha bro landed that drop or f*cked her shit up. And redbull pulling out of mtb. A company using mtb to market their product would be the only ones worse off. Riders would find other sponsors and events as well as be more likely to live to ride another day or live at all. Believe me, deep down redbull is soaking up the extra attention they get from Gee crashing as long as people like you defend their BS.
  • 7 3
 Do you think the NFL should be shut down? The average life expectancy of an NFL lineman is what...54? Someone almost died last year on the field.
  • 2 1
 unfortunately I had the same realization for the first time this year.
  • 3 2
 @pinkbert: yeah strength has nothing to do with landing something that big/surviving an impact like that.
  • 1 1
 @boardinbob: RedBull takes care of their athletes when they are injured!
  • 3 3
 @DoubleCrownAddict:

>With this type of drops riders like Gee are making Rampage less like slopestyle and more like the old days.

Except when he gets robbed by judges. Do you seriously not remember the last couple of years?
  • 2 5
 @xciscool: Some say what? Max is worth at least $200M and will probably be a billionaire by the time he retires. Even without insurance, medical bills are chump change to him. That's definitely not why he races F1.
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 @enduroNZ: I agree that I don't want it to go away but I would love to see it reinvent itself. Original Rampage was innovative and exciting to watch. Now the innovation requires days of high skill construction to increase the drama and spectacle while the spectacle itself is getting worse to watch (look at last year's comments post broadcast).

Maybe switch venues each year and use less prepared terrain (Farwell Canyon, Moab slabs, Central American coffee plantations, etc) and riders have to create style with what nature gives them.

True, a shorter vertical feature might mean less time to fit in tricks but athletes will find a way to step out from the crowd and draw attention. Gee's first Rampage fame came from a crazy wall-ride.
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 @Pichyforum: He certainly did. And now he's older and wiser and retired so he can choose where and how he goes hard at something and still get home to his family.
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 @FatTonyNJ: Red Bull did originate from being a Pharmaceutical company at the start
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 Not sure the line itself was dumb but riding when the wind sock was at full sail was definitely questionable, especially when everyone else decided to bow out for the day. Ultimately, anyone of us can die unexpectedly at any time so live your life while you can; you just have to choose between what you're willing to give up for your loved ones and what makes you happy.
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 @Betacygni: You can look at free solo climbing. People were risking their lives before the movie Free Solo came out and many died doing it. These guys would definitely be pushing the limits regardless of anyone watching. I doubt there's a single one of us that isn't constantly pushing our own limits. Redbull just makes it easier for the riders to push the limits and you can argue it is a safer environment having medical crews on-site.
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 @chrismac70: actually red bull has one of the most advanced rehabilitation centres in Europe when it comes to athletes recovering from injuries.
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 Hardline hits the sweet spot. Rampage is now in squirrel suit territory.
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 @xciscool: So...hold on. You think if Max Verstappen injures himself, Red Bull Racing will leave it up to him to make himself healthy? And his dad racked up hundreds of millions in medical bills and he's using his contract to pay that off? Seems legit.
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 @VelkePivo: good nick, very good Big Grin
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 @konarider94: The TT. Without one shadow of a doubt the greatest sporting event on this planet.

From the outside world It simply cannot be understood, but it's plain to see, competitors at these events are not sportsmen & women. They are gladiators.
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 Time to cancel cars, motorbikes, horse riding, skiing, deep sea diving, skydiving, mountain climbing and everything else then too.... I tell you what, lets just cancel life itself, everybody dies, it's clearly too dangerous... You'd have everyone locked in a padded room with a security camera on them for their own 'safety' wouldn't you, that's where attitudes like yours lead...
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 I honestly don't know where I sit on this one; there's a lot to say on both sides. However, I do find the props you got really interesting given the folk you read this site. I suspect we all sympathise with both viewpoints more than it can seem sometimes.
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 @pbfan08: And the Northwest 200 in Northern Ireland
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 @konarider94: wtf is the isle of man TT race? And why have I never heard of it?? Rapidly googling
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 I love watching these guys ride all the crazy lines, but I have to agree it's getting a bit ridiculous. I don't necessarily think it needs to be cancelled per se, as these riders can make decisions for themselves, but would it make sense to reel things in a bit?

As far as Gee goes -- the body can only take so much abuse, I hope he retires and finds something else fulfilling to do on the bike besides send these outrageous drops.
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 @konarider94: Indeed, the TT is nuts. And I think the sentiment around participation should come from the participants first, and then see about finding someone to write the cheque and sponsor it. Those groups are the ones with the stake and inside info.

As for all the Red Bull "responsibility" talk...a dude wanted to take a BALOON into SPACE, and then FALL TO EARTH. Red Bull said "we'll hold your beer and here's a pile of money". So which is it...participant choice or irresponsible sponsor? As I said, I think that's a lunch meeting between Felix and RB, not any of us. RB continues to see benefit in propping up Rampage, and the riders continue to see benefit in participating. The thing we all control is whether we watch it or not and to see if that affects rider or RB opinion. I don't see a solid argument against the "choice" of either party, which leaves us out of the process.
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 @dsciulli19: He could own his own bike park and bike brand!
I think Dyfi is a good name for the bike part and Atherton bikes for the bike brand.

The issue comes that folk like Gee dont have the same fear as the rest of us and are incredibly driven to drive for their next fix. Once in the groove its pretty hard for anyone to convince them that what they are doing may have severe consequences.

Lets hope Gee is fine and makes a full recovery from this crash, it looked brutal.
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 @FloImSchnee: what about those not on the RB payroll
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 @tacopop: their business is selling drinks the sports stuff is just a marketing strategy
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 @HardtailHerold: what about Jose who aren’t on the RB payroll. What about if care is needed for the next 40 years as a result of an accident. I can guarantee that no one injured at this event is medivaced to anywhere but the nearest hospital
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 @chrisclifford: TT is run by different "companies" every few years beacause of the pushback they receive.

But then again, they can organize and keep spectators moderately safe, or there will be deaths of people running on their own.

I really wanna know the death toll of older lines since the events happened and people went to ride there.
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 @wyorider: “several hundred foot drop” Jesus man calm down a bit and think before going on these self righteous tirades. You have no idea what drives Gee to do this, and considering your background of road and XC racing I don’t think you’d get it anyways. You’re being pretty disrespectful to Gee here by calling him mentally ill for his success and what he’s accomplished progressing a sport than means more to him than anything.
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 @tacopop: I agree with a lot of this, but is RB's business extreme sports, or do they use that to sell a whole lot of sugar water? It's the latter that makes me really uncomfortable about supporting them implicitly, even if I've never bought a RB in my life.
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 @ROOTminus1: I think you've got a lot of good points, but even Hardline is not immune from this. It's gotten more extreme and dangerous over the years. Rampage needs to do something though. It feels like the live event part is the problem, with logistics, weather and an immediate demand to perform beyond your highest level. That's not how top level athletics works, and that's what makes it so much more dangerous.
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 @dhsemlimites: hopefully not when you're young, at the top of your game and can mitigate & prevent it.

but yeah, sweet tattoo
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 @bbachmei: yeah and neither Gee or any dude is a super human lol there are limits even for men! but we're supposed to let the riders decide if they want to do this, right?

What's funny is bro's are like, "no women, it's too dangerous, but for the men we'll let them decide, they know their limits and you can't tell them what to do".
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 @plyawn: it can be both. You could have a whole team of people really passionate about extreme sports while still being passionate about their product.
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 @deadmeat25: that'a a stupid argument and you know it is.
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 @Betacygni: Well put.
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 Don't people die at races like the Leadville 100 all the time? Why aren't they calling for those to be cancelled?
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 I would really like to see Rampage change from a live-event to a longer event that receives a ton of media coverage. It could still be competitive.

Maybe the logistics of this don't work, but if rider teams can have a few days to build lines then over several days people can run their lines and try out other rider's lines the amount of content would be more than enough of a return. There can be prizing for "Best Line" in terms of the build crew and the rider, with the votes being from the people involved instead of an external judging panel. Make it more of a freeride summit instead of a high-pressure live event.
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 @desertmolerat: The biggest news here is that Road Bike Action is still a thing.
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 Healing vibes man. Bummed to hear this. Was stoked to see that line stomped!!!!
  • 43 1
 I feel so conflicted about Gee.
He is undeniably a beast and a huge inspiration and I was really looking forward to seeing him in Rampage again.

I'm a decade his senior and what I can say in hindsight is that as you get older your reflexes DO just get slower with time.
For myself I'm sending bigger stuff and riding faster now that is did in my 20's and 30's but that is largely due to improvements in bikes / gear.
At a certain point you're relying more on accumulated bike experience and muscle memory which is fine until you hit that fine line of catastrophe and payoff. When the margins of success are slim I feel like you need to have those cat like reflexes of a younger person.
I hope that Gee didn't feel added pressure to "one up" the young bucks for the sake of relevance and to strengthen the Atherton brand. It seemed like a very ambitious drop.

Massive healing vibes and I hope that he recovers from this one 100%. It really sucks to see that he got seriously injured.
  • 5 3
 > but that is largely due to improvements in bikes / gear.

And as it stands, everyone on Rampage is riding DH rigs, with 200mm of travel thats nowhere near enough. Bender back in the day was riding 250R/300F bike, and features were smaller.
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 @KickFlipABike: Bender said himself several times that the landing was not steep enough, either.
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 @KickFlipABike: People are riding rampage on freeride bikes now, basically enduro bikes so like 180/180
  • 5 0
 The bigger these drops get, the steeper the landings are. The trouble with steep landings is that a small overshoot in horizontal distance equates to a much bigger increase in vertical distance and you land much further down the landing than planned. Looks to me like this is what happened to Gee and he went too deep to be able to hang on to it.
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 Cat like reflexes fortunately can be trained. Videogames of all things really do help with coordination and reflexes. In other sports that require cat like reflexes and a very, very strong body, see Alonso, Hamilton and Cristiano Ronaldo pushing the envelope of what the body can do.
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 @Notmeatall: years ago I remember watching something with Michael Schumacher and they were addressing the idea that F1 drivers have 'super human' reflexes, but they played a game of slapsies and Schumacher's reactions/reflexes were no quicker than his opponent. What sets him and others like him apart is that they have a natural affinity for their given activity and maybe better spatial awareness etc... such that they aren't thinking about the basics of driving/riding etc... and they can therefore focus on the much finer details.
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 @ChiefSilverback: Yet the Jackie Stewart batting practice story exists, in which he was hitting .350(~) at a Yankees practice when they were throwing as hard as they could at him. When they asked him how the hell he was doing it, he replied "It's easy when the ball comes at you so slowly."

In regards to Biking VS Racing, I do both, and I can tell you that biking has more risk BUT THAT RISK IS AT THE CHOICE OF THE RIDER. Racing has spent years negating chance, and adding a lot to safety. I've hit walls at 140kph and not even had a mark or bruise on my body, where as with biking I've broken 2 arms and a collar bone. It's not really a fair comparison, and is well wide of the mark.
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 @Matturalistic: that old Jackie Stewart batting practice story...yes...a classic!

wut
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 With the utmost respect, I hope he fully recovers and does choose to retire. I know the "go big or go home" folks are going to downvote, that's fine ~ I do know from experience with being mashed (I'm 61 not nearly as broken as he is) that old age won't be kind, he's going to feel weather changes three states away and playing with his kids / grand kids if he has them will cost him the next three days. Gravity works every time and each bad landing, crash or broken/torn body part gets added to the next & gets pulled out on the crash you just had ... what's that meme "That's when he realized he f'd up"
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 Yeah man I'm on board with 'Let Gee retire'
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 @on-the-move: he shouldn't retire completely, just step away from the most dangerous stuff. I don't enjoy videos when I am scared as shit for the rider, like his piece in the dolomites.
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 I’m with you, 56 and all crashed out, still love the flow but no more time off the bike injuries.
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 @thorpey7: I hear ya! I need to find more people like you and I to ride with. Unfortunately, it seems that the riding stops when families and career start. I've been lucky to be able to do all of it regularly until COVID hit and changed how my job and responsibilities line up.
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 @Muckal: Ya, the pucker factor in that video is huge!
  • 28 0
 fs in the chat. This really sucks. I was so pumped gee was going to rampage
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 That was a gnar ass line he chose. He knew this was he last chance to compete in rampage and he went for it. He looked strong earlier but theres no way to train for rampage. Come on Gee, you legend, you've done enough for mtb, no need to continually risk you life.
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 Let's hope it's something simple- DAMN- just when he was getting back... Shame! Heal up Gee!
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 Here's hoping for a full recovery Gee
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 And a happy career managing a riding and manufacturing team, and riding all for fun when he comes out!
  • 15 1
 A lot of responses here reference other dangerous sports as a rationale for not changing the format of Rampage in any way, but is that true of these other dangerous sports? In F1 when there's a serious accident the governing body investigates and may implement rule changes to mitigate that risk in future. HANS devices, fire proof race suits, safety cells that can withstand enormous impacts, the 'halo', wheel tethers etc....

MotoGP tracks are lined with big airbags to reduce the risk of riders smashing into crash barriers at crazy high speeds, and the riders wear full leather race suits with armour built in. Alpine ski race courses have catch netting to stop a racer flying into the trees at 60mph.

Has anyone stopped watching these sports because of 'nanny' safety measures meaning there's less chance of seeing someone die on a given weekend?
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 A fair point of view, but I'd say there is a significant difference. Adding wheel tethers to a F1 car or crash netting to the side of a ski slope doesn't really effect the competition. The devices dont do anything until after shit has already hit the fan. How would you propose to make Gee's drop here any safer without making it smaller or making the landing into an air bag? I'm all for improved safety measures, but I'm not for watering down the nature of the sport that these (grown adult) athletes enjoy taking part in.
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 @gabiusmaximus: You raise some valid points there, it's almost "how do you make something inherently dangerous safer without removing the danger", which is pretty hard to do.

On a slightly different track, I wonder if at some point the sponsors step in at all? Gee rides Fox suspension, have they ever tested it to take that sort of impact and therefore pressure? Imagine the negative news they would have if the top cap blew out the air spring on his fork causing Gee to have a very bad crash.... Is there a scenario where they say "we don't want you to attempt that with our product until we've tested it in the lab to make sure it will hold up"?
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 @ChiefSilverback: Given the number of sharpied tyres on the DH circuit, I imagine that would have next to zero impact on the number of people going full lemming off of Utah cliffs. I get your point though. Sponsoring activities with a high risk of death does certainly have ethical questions related to it.


But I would also like to very clearly reiterate at this point that I think banning Red Bull Cliff Lemmings is not the solution. People are allowed to put themselves in danger if they like as long as they dont hurt others in the process.
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 @gabiusmaximus: Sharpied tires exist because a rider wants to use a non-sponsors tire, not because they want to use a tire that hasn’t been tested/rated for the riding they want to do and the manufacturer doesn’t want to be associated with it.

Last year at the EWS at Burke, VT we were chatting to the guy running the pit for a brand that has it’s own tires, and the team’s bikes were lined up shiney and ready to go, shod with Maxxis tires. “Those will be getting Sharpied before the race” was what we were told!
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 @ChiefSilverback: What I was getting at is that if some sponsor or another says "we don't want you to use our product" most riders will just say "yeah whatever" and do it anyway. It wouldn't really have any impact on the parts fitted to their bikes.

As an aside, its worth noting that there were essentially 0 bike failures this year. It would seem that the bikes are more than up to the task. The danger doesn't really come from the equipment not holding up, it comes from the rider missing their line.
  • 15 2
 and so it begins... i m worried for their life this year. everything looks so crazy It was amazing for him to be ready again. healing vibes.
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 Yep, this year look like they are in the dark zone of life ending risk. And when it will happen, everyone will be so shock and surprise.
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 Same here. I've had a bad feeling about this year's rampage seeing what they all have been cooking up, hopefully the rest of the event goes smoothly
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 Yeah you people say this every year along with it being too slopestyle and other dumb crap. That's the point, they're pushing their limits creating the dream lines they want to do. They're the best of course its going to scare normies.
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 @scott-townes: you are a normie
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 @scott-townes: I'm struggling to think of a more cringe-inducing term than "normie".
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flag scott-townes (Oct 11, 2023 at 10:25) (Below Threshold)
 @tommyrod74: Gaper work better for you?
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 Damn, if you listen with headphones you can hear the thud as he hits the deck. Insane.
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 His back end totally shifted over while 3 seconds in the air!! I guess this is why you don't do Rampage when the wind is above a certain mph.
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 That's f*cking massive. I take the fact that he's posting on social media as a (relatively) good sign.
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 @counterpoint: three seconds? You sure about that?
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 @counterpoint: he did drift but it looks like he was still within the landing area. Look more like the main problem was how deep he went. That compression looked like it would have been impossible to absorb.
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 @sino428: yeah... definitely too much speed. Landed so far down the landing...
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 @onemanarmy: also if you watch the video closely it looks like his rear wheel completely blows up on the landing.
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 @sino428: The landing was steep but not not steep enough. Lets say he landed after 22 meters of free fall. That makes a vertical impact speed of 75 kph or nearly 50 mph. I cannot imagine how to hold that...
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 @yoobee: hard to say, with only the views we’ve had so far. It looks like he might have been OK if he hit the sweet spot of the landing, but landing that deep looks like no chance.
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 @curtiscycles: Holy shit, that's an horrendous thud Frown
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 @curtiscycles: It's scary. Might be louder than the thud of bike on the landing!
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 @sino428: Yes. Looks like he went about a meter too deep but that probably translates to about 4m more height and a bigger impact so lose lose.
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 @w0dge: yeah the sound of a proper unit smashing into the ground. I saw Tippie make a comment on his post that Gee got away with just a bad concussion as far as he's heard. Looks like he's deleted the comment now though so who knows, I'm sure Gee will update on insta later this eve.
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 @yoobee: Yeah it blows me away that he held onto it for as long as he did.
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 @curtiscycles: The dude is the terminator. He probably asked him to take it down so he wouldn't get held out of the contest in concussion protocol. Dude will probably show up to ride. Honestly would not surprise me. He's an impressive human.
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 He's going to kill himself isn't he
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 Hopefully not. This sucks.
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 "It was quite windy when he sent it", fearless and he doesn't seem to have much patience.
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 You don't have to die for a crash to end your life.
  • 4 2
 Suicide no-lander...
  • 17 4
 Damn. At some point, have to say enough is enough.
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 For years I went as a mechanic, but it was hard to watch since they are all friends. During the event I preferred to not watch. I have multiple friends that'll never be the same. It's cutting edge but at what cost? Healing vibes out to Gee.
  • 9 0
 Terrible to see this happen but I can't say I'm surprised. Heal up you crazy fucker
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 Respect. Gee is a savage and a leader. He's been in the game for a long time, he knows exactly what he's doing, anyone can crash at any time. He might not have long with age coming to us all, I dont blame him for turning up to Rampage and laying down some smack.... Just a shame the hill smacked back. Rest up champ!
  • 7 0
 After seeing Kyle break his back, I doesn't seem worth it. Life is far too short as it is, to get an adrenaline fix, for a paycheck and a life altering injury.
  • 7 0
 I agree, I mean I am sure if you ask Dean Lucas about this situations now, he might have a similar idea. Least thats how I read Deans latest instagram post.
  • 6 0
 He already posted his crash:
www.instagram.com/reel/CyO9tz1LRgr
Overshot it, no chance of holding onto that.
I really hope his injuries are not too bad.
Quick recovery Gee!
  • 1 0
 What a savage. Hope his recovery is full and swift. I’ve had an injury three years in a row (nothing compared to gee) and surgery the last two consecutive years. It’s rough. I couldn’t imagine going through his recovery process.
  • 8 0
 I guess Gee doesn't plan on having any mobility at all when he gets to retirement age
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 Healing vibes. I hope this is not the first but the only. Some of this stuff is way extra this year. Szymon's gap on of the ridge 8s so vulnerable to wind and Bredog's canyon takeoff looks like a landing. I hope the math works out and the wind gods are kind. Best of luck fellas!
  • 5 0
 Damnit man, heal up Gee! And give the cliffs a rest. We already know you're gnarly! I'd rather watch you ride the way you do on features with a little bit of margin for error than watch you get crippled
  • 4 0
 I mean, he could have died. Bren could also die if he doesn't make the canyon gap. Its entertainment like no other, but I can't help but think its going to cost someone their life one day if they keep pushing it. Hope Gee is ok, regardless.
  • 6 2
 Maybe a more scientifical approach to these huge drops:
Get/measure all the geo data of takeoff and landing and terrain.
Calculate the excact speed you need. Verify this calculation with smaller drops.
Maybe this way you can reduce the risk to overshoot the landing.
Just an idea
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 Seems like Brendog is going that way, not sure how accurate it is but he does seem to have actually considered some physics in regards to the canyon gap.
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 I thought the same thing. This was such a huge drop - the acceleration force at impact, after an 18m+ freefall must have been incredible. A "normal" human would have simply folded and vanished. Gee Atherton, strong as an ox, held on but seemed to lose control on impact.
Healing vibes to Gee. But man, as cool as his projects and videos are, I wish he'd take it down a notch. Honestly, what's the point in public self destruction?!
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 @ChrisLanaway: absolute LOL. Literally no maths or science involved in Brendogs gap. It’s just down on a hunch and experience.
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 Hopefully we’ll see Gee out there on Friday. At least walking around even if he’s not riding.
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 utopian
  • 5 0
 fuuuuuuck, dude, as soon as I saw the 1st building video all I wanted from Rampage this year was Gee to not get wrecked again
  • 3 0
 Seems like he did a few things wrong, but I'm no expert. Too much speed on the drop, potentially too much wind causing him to shift right, and having a landing thats too small for both length and width with those kinds of speeds. Hope he is alright wishing him the best! Hopefully not too bad.
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 Darn! So stoked to see Gee back on top of his game again! Wish you too heal up fast again! Take it easy man, the bits of fame is not worth all the risk it comes along with! Lot's of time ahead of you too ride chilled with your niece and fam! Big Ups Man!
  • 5 1
 I decided not to watch this year after Matt's preview, hope Gee comes out ok as this is getting ridiculous. www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkCuW4wsaaI
  • 2 0
 Me too to be honest. I enjoyed the preview but there are too many major consequence lines. For example that first ridge gap they were building, if you don't make it and go off right there is a good chance you will be killed.
  • 7 5
 People STOP, F1, Nascar, Moto, people die a lot, no one asks them to stop. these guy know the risk and they want to do it. This is Gee, and the others are the same. No need to stop Rampage, they know the risk-wingsuits anyone???
  • 5 0
 Red bull need to put some catch nets under canyons before the worst happens and the event is over for good Heal up G
  • 2 0
 High and Dry- RADIOHEAD...
Two jumps in a week
I bet you think that's pretty clever, don't you, boy?
Flying on your motorcycle
Watching all the ground beneath you drop
You'd kill yourself for recognition
Kill yourself to never, ever stop
You broke another mirror
You're turning into something you are not
Don't leave me high
Don't leave me dry
Don't leave me high
Don't leave me dry
  • 2 0
 I can't be the only one who realizes this stuff has just gone to far. No matter how stupidly big a drop is, or how hard the landing, everybody is yelling 'SEND IT!!!1!!'. And then when someone crashes everybody is all 'OOh that was such a nasty crash, hope you get well soon!!'. Riders doing this stuff are stupid, and the folks cheering them on are hypocrites. There, I said it.
  • 5 0
 that drop looked terrifying
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 Such a shame, his line looked incredible. Personally I have decided not to watch it live this year, I'm not prepared to watch someone die on live TV and having seen the lines I feel it's becoming more and more likely.
  • 5 0
 I hope nobody else gets hurt.
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 he miss the landing spot of the biggest drop/cliff ever... it doesn't surprise me cause also like I said being short had fatal consequences too cause the landing was quite far away with elements (small ridges/clifs pointing out) in between ...
  • 3 1
 Was really looking forward to seeing his full run. Looks like he hit that with substantially more speed than what was needed. Hoping dude is o.k. That looked like 70 plus feet.
  • 4 1
 Oof. Gee, when you're fixed, please just go and ride some nice steep loamers in the Welsh forests instead. I'll watch and like every video!
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 You don't have to understand it to respect the mental fortitude. Hell of an attempt, and we may never see another like it, since Gee's gone as far as the laws of physics will allow with current materials and dh bikes. For the past 20 years, people have been saying the Jah Drop was impossible, and look where we are now... Brage is stomp-to-ballriding it out.
  • 6 1
 "Are you not entertained?! Is this not why you are here?!"
  • 2 0
 Strangely I love darkest, but only really catch a few highlights on rampage. I think the need to go big requires a controlled well planned course and rampage doesn't seem to focus on that enough.
  • 4 0
 Hope he's OK. At this point they could probably just weld him back together.
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 The guy has won world cups, hardline, has his own bike company, owns a rad bike park and still pushes himself on the bike! Healing vibes dude!
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 I hope he makes a full recovery and really starts to think about risk vs reward. He's accomplished a lot and has the results, medals and scars to prove it. I hope he retires so everyone can still enjoy Gee being around at races, the industry, the bike park and most of all his family!!
  • 1 0
 Does Dixie Regional Hospital pull in extra trauma doctors for RedBull week?
Sad he won't be riding Friday/Saturday. He has one of my all time favorite runs with the wall ride transfer. Gee knows Gee, but what I love about his riding is the speed. Hope he tones down the huge stunts and keeps riding with tech, speed and precision.
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 Trauma doctors are surgeons and no they wouldn’t have that there. Slc or Vegas Doode. Vegas is good for the family members while they wait for their loved one they can see a show, gamble, get laid, etc. it’s really a great time for the family!
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 The wall ride transfer was Bichin!
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 Gee looks to be relatively ok - a few fractures, but nothing life changing. He sounds like he wants to come back and try again next year.

For those who think he should retire - I don’t think you understand how the whole Atherton family operate. I was chatting to Dan on Saturday and it’s obvious that they all operate on a different level to the rest of us - not just in biking terms but in their willingness to take on seemingly impossible challenges.
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 I’m a moto rider as well as being a mountain biker. I was an early adopter of the Leatt neck brace and admittedly I’m faster without it but I truly believe it’s saved me more than once. I do wear it at the bike park and while I don’t have the skills for Rampage you’d bet your ass I’d be wearing one. Why isn’t the Leatt more common especially on their sponsored downhill team?
  • 1 0
 it's a * relief seeing the pictures and how he stood on the bike letting absorb the impact... he ll come back soon from this one you ll see... not seeing the footage was way worst in our imagination...
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 Video is already posted up. Got to wonder how much of this is driven by clicks and likes? Not sure if the wind blew the rear of the bike off line? Even he kept it straight, the sheer impact would have caused a crash imo. Nobody could hang on through that impact.
  • 2 0
 This guy is built from solid steel. I hope he heals up well. It's hard for me to fathom a rider even thinking about doing that drop, let alone actually doing it.
  • 3 0
 Is it even physically possible to land a drop like that...maybe we need some computer modeling before diving off the edge...
  • 3 0
 Never mind Gee, has anyone checked to make sure the planet survived the impact?
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 A multi-national corporation promotes the hacking up and trampling over delicate environments and gets some dudes to do egotistical stunts for the entertainment of adoring fans and sundry couch potatoes in order to sell unhealthy sugar drinks.
This is madness and folly to any sane person unimpressed by brahs doing tedious drops and somersaults on mountain bikes - and the same goes for skateboards, motorbikes, snowboards, skis etc etc etc.
It's the sports entertainment equivalent of junk food - and it's the antithesis of the philosophy behind mountain biking.
Just get the f**k out on your bikes and ride!
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 With a drop of 60ft his VERTICAL speed is almost 43mph/70kph... You need to have a very vertical landing with long transition for that and landing needs to be so precise. That's just crazy. Heal up fast Gee!
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 Update, please? How's he doing?
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 Fracture skull and vertebrae. So high energy injury pattern both sides of the base of skull and C1. Lucky to be alive.
  • 1 1
 Hope he isn’t in critical condition. Last thing we need is another fallen mtb comrade with a high cervical fracture and a trach that succumbs to sepsis from an overlooked bedsore. Ltach units are no joke and not a place where you want to see your loved ones. Pseudomonas is yucky and stinkier than the dankest ipa hippie beer!
  • 4 1
 Gee is the new Chuck Norris. Absolute animal.
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 Seriously worried about him. I wish the groms would stop the "end rampage crap" it's the riders choice not yours.
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 It makes for an interesting debate if you take a scenario where for some reason a person simply does not have any sense of fear, none at all, does someone else ultimately have to step in and say "no"? Now throw in the fact that Red Bull is a massive company using this event for marketing and you have to consider whether they have a corporate responsibility to prevent a fatal crash.
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 I don't think it's quite as simple as "it's the riders' choice".

Their sponsors have set up very strong incentives (or even requirements) to participate. If those incentives went away, I don't think it's a given that 100% of the riders would participate (at least not in the same way).
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flag scott-townes (Oct 10, 2023 at 17:30) (Below Threshold)
 @ChiefSilverback: No it doesn't and you have no clue if you think they're fearless or if the riders have no other choice as the other dubba is suggesting. Multiple people have died competing at the FWT and yet, its the most prestigious series in freeride skiing and snowboarding.

You guys don't get it and its hilarious.
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 @scott-townes: I was raising a hypothetical scenario and asking if there’s a point at which the organiser would/should step in?

Is there someone on site who does actually say no to some of the ideas? Are they calculating what’s physically possible e.g. in order to clear X distance you need a take off speed of Y and that requires a roll in of Z length and Q pitch, or is it all gut instinct and unwavering confidence?
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flag scott-townes (Oct 11, 2023 at 3:34) (Below Threshold)
 @ChiefSilverback: Nope, your comment is still really dumb and only reinforces that you have no clue as to what's going on.
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 @scott-townes: Ok explain how it's dumb? If you were in a situation where someone was saying "i can hit that" and you and the five other people with you know in your absolute cores that there's a 99.9% chance they will die if they try, would you let them, or would you try to talk them out of it?

I'm not saying Gee, or Brendan or any of the other Rampage riders fall into this category, I'm just wondering if there are any controls at all in place to prevent a person trying something that has a distinctly higher change of death than success?
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 @ChiefSilverback: Just ignore him, as everyone else has learned to.
He's by far the biggest troll on this site and is a nobody. Probably doesnt even bike.
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 I think the argument is that people shouldn't be allowed to do what they want when they could die/get life-altering injuries if they even slightly mess up. There have been multiple major incidents in recent years and nobody wants to see anyone get hurt. This stuff looks super fun and I certainly don't have the balls to do it. I don't have the balls to do what the guys were doing the first year Rampage came around. As the features get bigger, the consequences get bigger and the margin for error gets significantly smaller. I don't really know if Rampage should continue or not, but I do know we have to recognize reality. The reality is that Rampage is getting extremely dangerous just so some crazy guys can make a little bit of money. Is risking your life for a couple grand really worth it? I think if riders answered that with complete honesty and without clouded judgement, then the event wouldn't happen because no one would show up. Believe it or not, your well being isn't worth the couple thousand dollars.
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flag scott-townes (Oct 11, 2023 at 7:55) (Below Threshold)
 @ChiefSilverback: Because the very premise of your "argument" is based on ignorance. There's no use in explaining something to Pinkbike gapers who clearly don't understand this event or what drives these athletes.
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flag scott-townes (Oct 11, 2023 at 7:56) (Below Threshold)
 @cookiemonster615: "I think the argument is that people shouldn't be allowed to do what they want when they could die/get life-altering injuries if they even slightly mess up"

hahahahahahaha f*ck off.
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 @scott-townes: hahahahahahahahahaha you are the biggest idiot on the planet if you think what I just said is stupid. F*ck off my a$$
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flag scott-townes (Oct 11, 2023 at 10:24) (Below Threshold)
 @cookiemonster615: Thank you for proving my point. Go back to reddit, gaperboy.
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 @cookiemonster615: people jump out of airplanes and some have died should we ban sky diving.
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 @beeekay: every back and forth with him gives folks a chance to downvote his comments though...
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 @ChiefSilverback: Imagine being so pathetic that you care about "downvotes".
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 @madmon: where'd you get the idea that I want to ban things? Your a$$hole? I never said anything of the sort.
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 @madmon: I only said what the "ban Rampage" crowd is saying in simplified terms. I don't think banning Rampage is necessarily the best course of action so why would I want to ban it? Making changes to it is what's needed.

While I do think the "ban Rampage" crowds argument is applicable in other parts of society, I don't believe this is one of them.
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 @scott-townes: haha exactly. No one should care about getting downvotes @ChiefSilverback
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 Just saw the crash on his insta, FUUUCK! Looked like one of those where you know it's F'ed as soon as you leave the lip an your just flying wating for the hurt
  • 3 2
 There’s a point where you have to stop pushing and Gee is well past it. He is an insanely talented rider but this is just concerning..
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 This is ridiculous. There's nothing admirable or cool about dropping 60 feet on a mountain bike. It's not like racing an F1 car like people are saying. F1 cars are built to keep you alive. This is just pushing past what's reasonable. Gee is a legend, but that was dumb.
  • 1 0
 JESUS! this guy has put his body through hell over the years and still pushing it!! hopes he s not hurt too bad! Heal up soon Gee!
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 I absolutely love mountain biking but if a crash ever resulted in me having to get air lifted to a hospital, I’m done. Gee , it’s time bro and I say it with love.
  • 3 0
 Having been airlifted to hospital and still loving my riding I can't agree. It's up to Gee to call time on things, no one else.
  • 1 0
 Was sitting on uplift with him last month, was good to see him recovered from last time. Fingers crossed this one's not as bad...
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 I hate Instagram.
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 Oh fuuuuuuuuck, Gee. Hope you’re okay! That drop looked insane.
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 f*ck…..heal up man, heal up and rest.

The sad thing is this is seems like rampage is just mega huge slopestyle, him and Brendog will never get the props for riding huge free ride lines.
  • 5 0
 I mean specifically at Rampage, I don’t mean anything bad about a huge slopstyle event. All cycling is awesome.
  • 1 0
 Dam! Hope it's not to serious! I was really looking forward to seeing him back at Rampage!
  • 2 0
 Just brutal. Healing vibes man.
  • 2 1
 I'm glad he can move his toes, it gives me hope he'll get through this alive.
  • 3 0
 Hope he's OK
  • 1 0
 Oh man! So gutted, saw the headline and my heart sank. Hoping for some good news soon.
  • 1 0
 Shit. I was nervous to watch the live feed because of that. Hoping he's okay.
  • 13 15
 I really HOPE these riders who risk their lives for fame make ALOT of money off this event. But thinking RB and NBC or whoever makes WAY more...
Sad cause a random major league baseball player is prolly paid millions more. So called "athletes". But hey...that's 'Merica.
SMH
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 How can you make it to 44 years old and legit have this be an opinion:

"Sad cause a random major league baseball player is prolly paid millions more. So called "athletes". But hey...that's 'Merica."

Like... You can't really be this simple can you?
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 Athletes in a sport with a massive fanbase compared to MTB make more money? Just crazy! No logical reason for it!
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 @texag: which is funny because the reason baseball players make so much money is because people pay to watch them play. Wether it be by buying tickets to the games or subscribing to the cable channels to watch at home, fans are willing to pay to to watch.

Yet put anything mountain bike related behind any kind of paywall and people lose their shit. And then those same people complain that riders aren’t paid enough.
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flag chrismac70 (Oct 10, 2023 at 14:12) (Below Threshold)
 This is all about selling more tins of drinks. I suspect some of the professional influencers they hire get paid more than the riders
  • 4 1
 @sino428: this is spot on. Won’t pay $40 per year to watch a sport they “love”. Wonders why every successful pro MTB rider has to have a you tube channel to make the risk and the juice worth the squeeze.

Anyhow, I hope Gee is ok. The drop from the top looked terrifying and looked like such a small chance of being able land it. I know most of these riders seem reckless but what they do is usually very calculated. This drop, and hitting it in the wind when other rampage vets aren’t even riding was very reckless.
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 @Struggleteam: I can’t judge their choices from my couch. So I have to believe he thought the risk was low enough to give it a go.

Gee has always been one of my favorites. I was looking forward to seeing him in rampage again. I hope that he’s ok and it’s not as bad as it sounds.
  • 2 0
 Heal up Gee. Legend. Monstrous line and we know you’ll be back.
  • 1 0
 Losfer Words. I was really looking forward to watching him ride. Damn. I hope he will be just fine. Please be fine!
  • 2 0
 Healing vibes to Gee! Totally gutted to hear this news....
  • 1 0
 OMG that drop hurts! Too risky, insurance premium must be pretty high. Wishing full and speedy recovery.
  • 1 0
 Has to be the end of him sending big stuff with such big crashes this late in his career.
  • 1 1
 Watched his video - didn't seem to do anything wrong. That's a hell of a drop and corresponding impact when bike and rider hits the ground.
  • 6 2
 Would love to see Ben Cathro dissect this in slow motion, with some physics of inerta x impact= explosion in fine detail.
  • 2 0
 What do I know, but it looks to me like the only way to safely land that would have required slightly less speed - he needed to hit the more vertical section that he flew past. But of course, the penalty for undershooting was likely even worse - looks like a very tricky physics problem where even a slight wind could change the answer (about the exact right takeoff speed).
  • 2 0
 @MarkJ70: It was a narrow window of execution, as not enough speed would render an awkward leap off of edge.
  • 1 0
 So this is the biggest vertical drop ever tried right?!
60ft thats even bigger than the jah drop!
Healing vibes Gee!
  • 1 1
 Yeh i was thinking He should of attempted the Jaw Drop first as a test
  • 2 0
 Needed 300mm travel fox 48’s
  • 2 0
 And a Hulk body.
  • 8 6
 This guy obviously does not know his limits, this is dumb ass shit
  • 2 0
 There's a reason I don't watch this event live.
  • 3 1
 Clips been removed from instagram - hopefully nothing bad happened
  • 2 0
 It is still there. Just has a warning now that the clip contains graphic footage.
  • 5 4
 Red Bull helmets don’t make you any less invincible. Man’s gotta know his limitations
  • 2 0
 Risk to pay-off hardly seems worthwhile either
  • 1 0
 Huge respect for the guy and would love to see him retire healthy, however you literally can't cheat physics sadly
  • 2 0
 is the video anywhere else? can't watch it without instagram
  • 1 0
 Long story short, "I broke my skull and my neck. No big deal!"
  • 1 0
 This is just straight Josh Bender throwback stuff. And I'm not sure what I think of that, really.
  • 1 0
 Damn!!! Healing vibes George
  • 1 0
 F*** I hope he's alright... Wishing for a quick recovery.
  • 2 0
 Damn. Heal up big man.
  • 1 0
 fuck !!! get well soon man!!!
  • 1 0
 Fraaack! Damn Gee , heal up. Gutted to see ya down again
  • 1 0
 Man. So sad. I hope he fully recovers. Heal up Gee-Man.
  • 1 0
 They can rebuild him...Chuck Norris wouldn’t ride a Gee line.
  • 1 0
 Efffffffffffffff......... Frown

Big Sad.
  • 1 0
 Get yourself well. Keep doing what you enjoy.
  • 1 0
 Wish you a speedy recovery.
  • 1 0
 Watching the Insta post going, “When is he going to LAND?!”
  • 1 1
 Carbon can't take that kind of impact.. should be riding steel bikes at this point
  • 3 1
 Steel would buckle under that type of impact
  • 1 0
 It doesn't take much force to mangle steel. I completely destroyed a steel derailleur hanger on a bike because it folded like a piece of paper under barely any torque.
  • 1 0
 Depends on the shape of the tip brah
  • 2 0
 Gnarly.
  • 2 1
 How can he land safely with balls that big? Surely they got in his way?
  • 4 3
 FFS Gee that's bloody enough, no more bikes.
  • 2 0
 Geesus!
  • 1 0
 Gee-nius
  • 1 0
 Came in too hot for sure.
  • 1 0
 Gee, gutted to see this. That line was off the charts. Heal up quick man!!
  • 1 0
 Rampage is the cliff diving of cycling.
  • 2 1
 In other news: Gee Atherton riding the finals with three broken bones.
  • 1 0
 It's all Bender's fault. He created this out of control monster.
  • 2 0
 HAHAHAHAHA
  • 1 0
 Gee is a beast! Mad respect.
  • 1 0
 NOOO GEEEE!!!! GUTTED!!!
  • 1 1
 no no no no... Why MTB God
  • 6 18
flag chrismac70 (Oct 10, 2023 at 14:10) (Below Threshold)
 Those tins of drinks dont sell themselves
  • 1 0
 Gee, be careful man.
  • 1 0
 dd
  • 1 0
 Bro.. c'mon.
  • 1 0
 That video was madness.
  • 2 1
 Seth Enslow vibes. fackk
  • 1 1
 “Are you not entertained” Maximus Crowe.
  • 1 0
 heal up well Gee....
  • 2 3
 Sorry - and I really hope he gets well soon but all I can think of is - Ooops he did it again .......
  • 1 0
 Cmon Frown
  • 1 0
 tt
  • 2 4
 I cannot see that he made a mistake. Perhaps the bike and suspension manufacturer did not calculate a 70 foot drop.
  • 1 0
 It can handle the Gee forces fine.
  • 2 0
 I wouldn't even consider a suspension unit that couldn't handle a 100' drop with a 300lb rider
  • 1 0
 @tigerfish50: you need a super monster for that
  • 1 2
 Samething happened again his suspension kicked him off
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 G-out
  • 4 6
 cancel all mountain biking its too dangerous.... someones feelings might get hurt!
  • 1 1
 @Gee Healing Vibes
  • 1 1
 Gee, it’s time man.
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